06-04-2022, 08:07 PM (This post was last modified: 08-24-2022, 06:27 PM by BIAD.)
There was a time when someone from London might suggest visiting the Tower of London or even Picadilly Circus.
Now the capitol of England has more modern tradition for people to photograph.
Quote:Rapper Hypo stabbed to death at Jubilee party in east London
'The rapper ex-boyfriend of singer Emeli Sande has been stabbed to death at a Jubilee party.
Hypo, real name Lamar Jackson, was attacked in front of a "large number of people" at the bash in Redbridge, east London, police said.
Despite efforts to save him the 39-year-old was pronounced dead at the scene.
Lamar Jackson.
No arrests have been made. Scotland Yard is treating the case as a murder and has appealed for witnesses.
Det Ch Insp Laurence Smith said it was possible the stabbing, in Chigwell Road, Woodford Green, and its aftermath were captured on
people's phones. "I would urge anyone who is yet to speak with us to come forward and let us know what you saw," he said.
"Please take a look and call us. It is vital that we establish what happened."...'
Good luck with that.
Quote:''Hackney legend'
Video appearing to show the death of Mr Jackson, from Hackney, was shared on social media, with fans quick to condemn those passing
it on. Tributes were also quick to pour in, with fans of the grime artist hailing him as "a pioneer" in the industry.
Others said he was "a clean-hearted guy" and "a real Hackney legend"...'
Crazy Alex Jones and his organ-harvesting conspiracy... what was he saying?!!!
Er... wait a moment.
Quote:Two charged with child organ-harvesting conspiracy
'Two people have been charged with conspiring to transport a child into the UK in order to harvest organs.
Beatrice Nwanneka Ekweremadu, 55, and Ike Ekweremadu, 60, both Nigerian nationals, will appear at Uxbridge Magistrates' Court later.
Police said a child had been safeguarded and officers were working with partners on continued support.
The investigation was launched after detectives were alerted to potential modern slavery offences.
The charges follow an inquiry by the Metropolitan Police's Specialist Crime team...'
(07-18-2022, 01:40 PM)BIAD Wrote: It hasn't rained for a couple of days in southern-England, so...
The problem is that people have lost the capacity for independent thought.
Lack of commonsense, and the years of conditioning, have way too many relying on the media to tell them what to feel, think, and do.
Of course the Earth is changing. It always has, from day one of it's creation. And so are we, and everything thing in it and on it. It is the key to survival. And one of the primary reasons man should not be dicking around with stuff they don't completely know and understand.
Every consistent change in our environment on this planet triggers a micro adaptation in every living thing on Earth, that increases the organism's ability to tolerate and survive the persistent and forth coming changes.
We may get some funky looking specimens along the way, but that is nature's way of beta testing.
Makes me think of the series "Wayward Pines". I had been speaking of this little known, yet long occuring phenomenon, since it became evident to "me", during a science study, back in the eight grade. I was so pleased to see someone play with the idea in the Hollywood media.
Though I thought at the time, they had gotten the future result wrong. Looking at the world today. I don't think they could have gotten it more right.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
(07-18-2022, 02:06 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: The problem is that people have lost the capacity for independent thought...
I used to hear from certain circles the expression 'Breakaway Society'. I think what it may truly mean is the dying
mainstream media has constructed a fake world that they constantly report and outrage on, that is nowhere near
the reality the masses exist in!
Then via 'alternative media', such an false environment is discussed and either praised or ridiculed depending on
which side one stands. An imaginary universe they call 'The Internet'!
(07-18-2022, 02:17 PM)BIAD Wrote: I used to hear from certain circles the expression 'Breakaway Society'. I think what it may truly mean is the dying
mainstream media has constructed a fake world that they constantly report and outrage on, that is nowhere near
the reality the masses exist in!
Then via 'alternative media', such an false environment is discussed and either praised or ridiculed depending on
which side one stands. An imaginary universe they call 'The Internet'!
Quote: An imaginary universe they call 'The Internet'!
You hit the nail on the head.
Worse is that most people know this and choose the imaginary universe.
They seem to have the Lt. Broccoli holodeck mental impairment.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
07-20-2022, 08:38 AM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2022, 08:40 AM by BIAD.)
We're well into the 'Journo-Holiday' part of the year and with it, non-time-sensitive articles that display nothing
in the form of relevance. For many media-outlets, this is the time for Nessie, vegetables that resemble genitalia
and that old favourite 'look what I fell on and accidently inserted into my rectum'.
But even in the shallows of the News Desk's superficial write-ups, a conservative standard still survives and at
the BBC, they still dare not offer anything that doesn't instil the notion that it is prudent to stay at home and
trust them to tell you when it's okay to go outside.
(Note: For those who like a drink, this article is about reptile attacks and not the half-lager/half-cider pints!)
Quote:Snakebites becoming more common in the UK
'A rise in exotic pet ownership means snakebite injuries are becoming more common in the UK, doctors are warning.
In the last 11 years medics have seen and treated 300 victims.
For God sake, don't switch off your TV!
Some 72 of the patients were teenagers or children - 13 were under the age of five. Most of the people who had been
bitten made a complete recovery, but some had to be treated in intensive care. One patient needed part of their finger
amputating, and one man died.
He was a reptile conservationist who had been bitten by a king cobra - the world's longest venomous snake...'
Wow! a person who handles snakes got bitten by one?
Quote:'...Measuring around 13 feet long, these snakes can rise or "stand up" to reach an adult's eye level. Snake venom is a
neurotoxin that can stop the victim's breathing and heartbeat. Those who saw the incident said that, after being bitten,
the man staggered about "as if drunk" and then collapsed.
Witnesses tried to resuscitate him while waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
Despite being given 10 vials of antivenom by the emergency services, he died from a cardiac arrest. It's possible he had
an allergic reaction to the antivenom, say doctors in the journal Clinical Toxicology. The amateur snake keeper who lost
part of their finger because the tissue died was also treated with antivenom. They had been bitten by a highly venomous
species of spitting cobra native to Mozambique. They are considered to be among the most dangerous snakes in Africa.
Their fangs can spray venom up to three metres, and their bite can be lethal....'
I see, this piece is built on one incident reported in a journal and then fleshed-out to imply the UK is in danger of being
poisoned by exotic 'slithery things' that are considered dangerous in another country.
Now watch how the article backtracks from its scaremongering with the use of common facts and regulations.
Quote:'...According to the World Health Organization, there are more than 250 species of venomous snake - most are native to
Asia, Africa, Latin America and Oceania.
The UK has three native snake species - the adder, the grass snake and the smooth snake. Only the adder is venomous.
It is not illegal to keep some exotic reptiles as pets. The RSPCA advises people to research as much as possible about
what it entails before buying one, since caring for them properly can be challenging. If you have a pet python, for example,
it advises: "Do not handle your python after handling prey as the snake may smell food and try to bite; wash hands well first."...'
The MSM -including the BBC, bang-on about poverty and food-banks in the UK being an everyday reality. Just which strata
of Britain's class-society are we talking about that can afford to keep a pet python?!
Quote:'...In the study, the researchers logged 321 exotic snakebites from 68 different species. Of those who were bitten, 15 had
severe symptoms...'
A little different from what the headline implies!
Quote:'...One of the study authors, Prof David Warrell from Oxford University, said: "Most of these bites occur to fingers, hands and
wrists following deliberate handling interaction by people who keep snakes as part of their occupation or hobby." Prof Nicholas
Casewell is the director of the Centre for Snakebite Research & Interventions at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.
He said it was important to distinguish between venomous snakes and non-venomous ones, such as corn snakes, which
many High Street pet shops sell. Snakes, like other animals that bite, can be a safe pet. Ownership of many venomous
species requires a special licence in the UK, meaning children shouldn't be handling them.
"People keeping venomous ones should be careful and have a mitigation plan in place for if they are bitten," said Prof Casewell.
He added that native adder bites in the UK were extremely rare. "You can find adders in some coastal areas - parts of the south
-east, north Wales and the Yorkshire moors. Most snakes are not aggressive. You would have to be quite unfortunate to be bitten.
"Very occasionally someone might step on one and get bitten. Or they might pick one up not realising it's an adder. The NHS
has access to different antivenoms for these rare emergencies."...'
(07-20-2022, 08:38 AM)BIAD Wrote: We're well into the 'Journo-Holiday' part of the year and with it, non-time-sensitive articles that display nothing
in the form of relevance. For many media-outlets, this is the time for Nessie, vegetables that resemble genitalia
and that old favourite 'look what I fell on and accidently inserted into my rectum'.
But even in the shallows of the News Desk's superficial write-ups, a conservative standard still survives and at
the BBC, they still dare not offer anything that doesn't instil the notion that it is prudent to stay at home and
trust them to tell you when it's okay to go outside.
(Note: For those who like a drink, this article is about reptile attacks and not the half-lager/half-cider pints!)
Quote:Snakebites becoming more common in the UK
'A rise in exotic pet ownership means snakebite injuries are becoming more common in the UK, doctors are warning.
In the last 11 years medics have seen and treated 300 victims.
For God sake, don't switch off your TV!
Some 72 of the patients were teenagers or children - 13 were under the age of five. Most of the people who had been
bitten made a complete recovery, but some had to be treated in intensive care. One patient needed part of their finger
amputating, and one man died.
He was a reptile conservationist who had been bitten by a king cobra - the world's longest venomous snake...'
Wow! a person who handles snakes got bitten by one?
Quote:'...Measuring around 13 feet long, these snakes can rise or "stand up" to reach an adult's eye level. Snake venom is a
neurotoxin that can stop the victim's breathing and heartbeat. Those who saw the incident said that, after being bitten,
the man staggered about "as if drunk" and then collapsed.
Witnesses tried to resuscitate him while waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
Despite being given 10 vials of antivenom by the emergency services, he died from a cardiac arrest. It's possible he had
an allergic reaction to the antivenom, say doctors in the journal Clinical Toxicology. The amateur snake keeper who lost
part of their finger because the tissue died was also treated with antivenom. They had been bitten by a highly venomous
species of spitting cobra native to Mozambique. They are considered to be among the most dangerous snakes in Africa.
Their fangs can spray venom up to three metres, and their bite can be lethal....'
I see, this piece is built on one incident reported in a journal and then fleshed-out to imply the UK is in danger of being
poisoned by exotic 'slithery things' that are considered dangerous in another country.
Now watch how the article backtracks from its scaremongering with the use of common facts and regulations.
Quote:'...According to the World Health Organization, there are more than 250 species of venomous snake - most are native to
Asia, Africa, Latin America and Oceania.
The UK has three native snake species - the adder, the grass snake and the smooth snake. Only the adder is venomous.
It is not illegal to keep some exotic reptiles as pets. The RSPCA advises people to research as much as possible about
what it entails before buying one, since caring for them properly can be challenging. If you have a pet python, for example,
it advises: "Do not handle your python after handling prey as the snake may smell food and try to bite; wash hands well first."...'
The MSM -including the BBC, bang-on about poverty and food-banks in the UK being an everyday reality. Just which strata
of Britain's class-society are we talking about that can afford to keep a pet python?!
Quote:'...In the study, the researchers logged 321 exotic snakebites from 68 different species. Of those who were bitten, 15 had
severe symptoms...'
A little different from what the headline implies!
Quote:'...One of the study authors, Prof David Warrell from Oxford University, said: "Most of these bites occur to fingers, hands and
wrists following deliberate handling interaction by people who keep snakes as part of their occupation or hobby." Prof Nicholas
Casewell is the director of the Centre for Snakebite Research & Interventions at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.
He said it was important to distinguish between venomous snakes and non-venomous ones, such as corn snakes, which
many High Street pet shops sell. Snakes, like other animals that bite, can be a safe pet. Ownership of many venomous
species requires a special licence in the UK, meaning children shouldn't be handling them.
"People keeping venomous ones should be careful and have a mitigation plan in place for if they are bitten," said Prof Casewell.
He added that native adder bites in the UK were extremely rare. "You can find adders in some coastal areas - parts of the south
-east, north Wales and the Yorkshire moors. Most snakes are not aggressive. You would have to be quite unfortunate to be bitten.
"Very occasionally someone might step on one and get bitten. Or they might pick one up not realising it's an adder. The NHS
has access to different antivenoms for these rare emergencies."...'
(07-20-2022, 09:42 AM)kdog Wrote: Wait a minute, you have snakes over there? I will dispatch LittleD with her snake boots and newly acquired machete to dispose of those rascals !
The article is only correct in the vein of indigenous snakes: Adders, Smooth Snake and Grass Snakes... and in my whole
life of sixty-plus years, I've only ever seen an Adder once -although I had a friend that kept a Slow-worm.
The 'Digital Health Editor' who wrote piece is talking out of her ass and attempting to keep their banal media trade alive
by suggesting snake bites are on the rise in Britain, when in reality, 300 'victims' in 11 years -assuming the data is true,
isn't a lot. Obviously, if one keeps venomous snakes, the chances are higher of being bitten than those who don't keep
them!
08-04-2022, 01:06 PM (This post was last modified: 08-04-2022, 01:12 PM by NightskyeB4Dawn.)
(08-04-2022, 11:55 AM)BIAD Wrote: Diversity is a strength.
Want to visit Oldham? Open your front door and step outside.
Know why they don't stop this from happening? Because this goes so deep, and has gone on so long, that the corruption, fear, and greed has either polluted anyone that has any real power to make it happen, or the ones on the streets coming face to face with these crimes, have been so throttled in getting a case processed, for so long, that they give up. They are drowning in cases that go nowhere. Usually because they are bogged down with complexities.
It has become so common for me to have patients that are beautiful young girls, from areas that are half a country away from home, going through that stage where they think their parents don't understand them. They are too strict. Everyone hates them. They just have to get away.
They get hooked up with some professional groomers on the internet, and they tell them everything they have ever wanted to hear, and they are very convincing. Most are very good at their jobs.
And, they often don't look the way you think they would look. Some are young girls that look a lot like them. Trained pawns used for the lure. Many are woman. They are not in a hurry. They gain their trust. They get them hooked on drugs and alcohol, they usually really believe that these people are the only ones that love them or care about them.
It becomes very complicated when these children are willing participants in this crime. The fact that they just that, "children", becomes the last thing all those involved in stopping these crimes, always put the least amount of focus on.
It is easier to blame the child and the parent, when you are fighting a battle you don't believe you can win.
I had a runaway, just a few months ago, that was rescued from a human trafficking gang. She admitted she ran away from home to get drugs, and that she did not care what kind of drugs they were.
She admitted that she hated being at home and that she lived on the streets by selling herself for drugs and alcohol. She also admitted she had run away from rehab three other times.
Don't get me started on those rehabs, and State run juvie homes.
With some of the cases they are revolving doors. You are dealing with a "child", in a confusing state of mind, in a world full of wolves, that is often addicted, from a home where the parent is non-existent, detached, clueless, or overcompensating.
Add in the mix, migrants, that are from a culture where child rape is allowed or ignored, and you have the perfect storm.
The biggest part of the problem, from how I see it, is that trying to find a civilized solution to a crime that goes so far beyond the border of the civilized, is extremely hard.
I think this is one of those cases, where the only humane way to address it, falls outside of the humane.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
(08-04-2022, 01:06 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: ...I think this is one of those cases, where the only humane way to address it, falls outside of the humane.
Oldham, Rotherham and many other mod-England towns are known for their 'diverse' communities that are
really just dump-sites for immigrants from a different religious-orientated cultures. The victims of these particular
mainly-British-Pakistani male groups are often grabbed off the street if they show any appearance of being slightly
-wayward or display certain qualities that indicate a 'beguiling' attitude.
The Police and authorities of these areas are aware of the political-issues and the problems when focusing on a
cultural perception that clashes with an indigenous societal conduct. These organisations seem to shun the idea
of the adult holding the moral compass and instead, indicate the juvenile should know the difference between
acceptable and unacceptable.
It's racist in the manner that it implies certain British-Pakistani men don't have to know better due to their upbringing.
08-04-2022, 04:33 PM (This post was last modified: 08-04-2022, 04:34 PM by NightskyeB4Dawn.)
There are so many layers involved in this crime that the sheer complexity that the legal system brings into play, makes the whole thing insane.
The crime. Children rape. Simple right? If an person is found guilty of this crime, it would mean immediate hard prison time, for no less than 100 years.
No excuses. She seduced me. The child is still a child. Drunk, drugged up, willing, instigator, prostitute, it doesn't matter. They are a child, and it is a crime.
Not a crime in your country? You are not in your country, and you are "required" to adhere to the laws of the country you are presently in.
It should be that crimes committed against children should be easy to process, should be done rapidly, and without prejudice, with no accepted excuses.
Unless you can prove the child is not a child, then you are guilty. Period. Easy peasy. The Romeo and Juliet defense only comes into play when age appropriate and the relationship is valid.
But we have become amazingly adept at redefining words. We have recreated classes and developed groups to ensure equality, by making them special, and above the classes that are considered the average majority. Completely destroying the original claim of striving for equality.
This makes the hierarchy happy, keeps us divided, fertilizes hate, and keeps us in the easily manipulated stage of confusion.
Okay, it may not be as simple as this, but it sure as hell does not have to be as complicated as they make it.
Just my biased opinion. No
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
08-24-2022, 08:49 AM (This post was last modified: 08-24-2022, 11:52 AM by BIAD.)
The newspapers won't let go of it, but seem to avoid discussing the reasons for such a tragic event. Maybe the
lawlessness in the UK requires -what many of public are saying, the need to bring back hanging.
Quote:GUN HORROR Knotty Ash shooting: Innocent Olivia, 9, was gunned down by hitman at bedtime as she hid behind mum
'Tragic Olivia Pratt-Korbel was hiding behind her mum when a hitman chasing a rival fired into their home and killed her.
The innocent nine-year-old was getting ready for bed when Cheryl Korbel heard shooting and opened their front door.
Liverpool. Olivia and her mum, Cheryl Korbel.
A man, 35, who had been targeted as he walked in the street with a friend, barged into the semi pursued by the balaclava
-clad gunman. Cheryl desperately tried to barricade the door as bullets ripped into the home in Knotty Ash, Liverpool.
Neighbours said they heard at least four shots. Olivia is believed to have been hit in the chest, Cheryl in the hand and the
targeted man was struck twice in the body. As Olivia lay dying on the floor, callous friends of the injured man then arrived,
carried him to their black Audi and took him to hospital — without bothering to check on the family.
Olivia was rushed to Alder Hey Children’s Hospital by police but pronounced dead a short time later. Her grieving mum is
being cared for by doctors at Aintree Hospital in the city. Other family members in the house at the time were unharmed.
Police said the family had no connection to the two men who forced their way into their home at 10pm on Monday.
The injured man, who had not been arrested, was in a serious but not life-threatening condition.
Hours after Olivia had been named as the victim, Luke Korbel, who is believed to be her cousin, wrote on Facebook: “What
the f***s the world come to ay? “Would never even think of wishing any of this on me worst enemy.”...'
'...Chief Constable Kennedy added: “It is believed that a 35-year-old man was being chased by a man armed with a gun.
“The man being chased forced his way into Olivia’s house and the offender ran in after him, firing a number of shots with
complete disregard for Olivia and her family, who have no connection with the gunman or the man who fought his way in.
“Sadly, Olivia was fatally injured when a gunman fired at the man, who was trying to get into the house and her mum also
suffered a gunshot to her wrist. The 35-year-old-man, who had been chased, suffered a number of gunshots to his upper body.
Whilst Olivia lay dying, he was picked up by his friends who took him to hospital.”
Det Chief Supt Mark Kameen, leading the murder hunt, said the 35-year-old man and a friend were walking down the street
when an armed man wearing a balaclava began shooting at them. He added of the tragedy: “A shot has been fired which we
believe has hit Cheryl, injuring her and then fatally wounding Olivia.
“Olivia at that time, we believe, was stood directly behind Cheryl.
“Despite the horrific circumstances, the attacker has continued the assault and has continued to try and gain entry to the property,
in doing so has then fired two further shots at the 35-year-old man who was, at this point, inside Cheryl and Olivia’s home address.
“The attacker has then left through the front door and has made off on foot.”...'
A 35-year-old man ran into Olivia's home on Kingsheath Avenue, Dovecot, followed by a man armed with a handgun,
after Ms Korbel opened the door to see what the noise was outside at about 22:00 BST
Olivia was fatally shot and Ms Korbel was shot in the wrist as she tried to shut the door
The gunman then fired two more times through the gap in the door, hitting the 35-year-old in the upper body, before
running away
The injured man was then driven away in a black Audi, while Olivia and Ms Korbel were left behind
The gunman was described as about 5ft 7in (170cm), of slim build, carrying a handgun and wearing a black padded jacket,
a black balaclava and black gloves...'
(08-24-2022, 08:49 AM)BIAD Wrote: The newspapers won't let go of it, but seem to avoid discussing the reasons for such a tragic event. Maybe the
lawlessness in the UK requires -what many of public are saying, the need to bring back hanging.
Quote:GUN HORROR Knotty Ash shooting: Innocent Olivia, 9, was gunned down by hitman at bedtime as she hid behind mum
'Tragic Olivia Pratt-Korbel was hiding behind her mum when a hitman chasing a rival fired into their home and killed her.
The innocent nine-year-old was getting ready for bed when Cheryl Korbel heard shooting and opened their front door.
Liverpool. Olivia and her mum, Cheryl Korbel.
A man, 35, who had been targeted as he walked in the street with a friend, barged into the semi pursued by the balaclava
-clad gunman. Cheryl desperately tried to barricade the door as bullets ripped into the home in Knotty Ash, Liverpool.
Neighbours said they heard at least four shots. Olivia is believed to have been hit in the chest, Cheryl in the hand and the
targeted man was struck twice in the body. As Olivia lay dying on the floor, callous friends of the injured man then arrived,
carried him to their black Audi and took him to hospital — without bothering to check on the family.
Olivia was rushed to Alder Hey Children’s Hospital by police but pronounced dead a short time later. Her grieving mum is
being cared for by doctors at Aintree Hospital in the city. Other family members in the house at the time were unharmed.
Police said the family had no connection to the two men who forced their way into their home at 10pm on Monday.
The injured man, who had not been arrested, was in a serious but not life-threatening condition.
Hours after Olivia had been named as the victim, Luke Korbel, who is believed to be her cousin, wrote on Facebook: “What
the f***s the world come to ay? “Would never even think of wishing any of this on me worst enemy.”...'
'...Chief Constable Kennedy added: “It is believed that a 35-year-old man was being chased by a man armed with a gun.
“The man being chased forced his way into Olivia’s house and the offender ran in after him, firing a number of shots with
complete disregard for Olivia and her family, who have no connection with the gunman or the man who fought his way in.
“Sadly, Olivia was fatally injured when a gunman fired at the man, who was trying to get into the house and her mum also
suffered a gunshot to her wrist. The 35-year-old-man, who had been chased, suffered a number of gunshots to his upper body.
Whilst Olivia lay dying, he was picked up by his friends who took him to hospital.”
Det Chief Supt Mark Kameen, leading the murder hunt, said the 35-year-old man and a friend were walking down the street
when an armed man wearing a balaclava began shooting at them. He added of the tragedy: “A shot has been fired which we
believe has hit Cheryl, injuring her and then fatally wounding Olivia.
“Olivia at that time, we believe, was stood directly behind Cheryl.
“Despite the horrific circumstances, the attacker has continued the assault and has continued to try and gain entry to the property,
in doing so has then fired two further shots at the 35-year-old man who was, at this point, inside Cheryl and Olivia’s home address.
“The attacker has then left through the front door and has made off on foot.”...'
A 35-year-old man ran into Olivia's home on Kingsheath Avenue, Dovecot, followed by a man armed with a handgun,
after Ms Korbel opened the door to see what the noise was outside at about 22:00 BST
Olivia was fatally shot and Ms Korbel was shot in the wrist as she tried to shut the door
The gunman then fired two more times through the gap in the door, hitting the 35-year-old in the upper body, before
running away
The injured man was then driven away in a black Audi, while Olivia and Ms Korbel were left behind
The gunman was described as about 5ft 7in (170cm), of slim build, carrying a handgun and wearing a black padded jacket,
a black balaclava and black gloves...'
Pretty shitty...on all fronts.
"Good judgment comes from experience...
Experience...? Well, that comes from poor judgment."
~ Dean Martin ~
(08-24-2022, 08:49 AM)BIAD Wrote: The newspapers won't let go of it, but seem to avoid discussing the reasons for such a tragic event. Maybe the
lawlessness in the UK requires -what many of public are saying, the need to bring back hanging.
Quote:GUN HORROR Knotty Ash shooting: Innocent Olivia, 9, was gunned down by hitman at bedtime as she hid behind mum
'Tragic Olivia Pratt-Korbel was hiding behind her mum when a hitman chasing a rival fired into their home and killed her.
The innocent nine-year-old was getting ready for bed when Cheryl Korbel heard shooting and opened their front door.
Liverpool. Olivia and her mum, Cheryl Korbel.
A man, 35, who had been targeted as he walked in the street with a friend, barged into the semi pursued by the balaclava
-clad gunman. Cheryl desperately tried to barricade the door as bullets ripped into the home in Knotty Ash, Liverpool.
Neighbours said they heard at least four shots. Olivia is believed to have been hit in the chest, Cheryl in the hand and the
targeted man was struck twice in the body. As Olivia lay dying on the floor, callous friends of the injured man then arrived,
carried him to their black Audi and took him to hospital — without bothering to check on the family.
Olivia was rushed to Alder Hey Children’s Hospital by police but pronounced dead a short time later. Her grieving mum is
being cared for by doctors at Aintree Hospital in the city. Other family members in the house at the time were unharmed.
Police said the family had no connection to the two men who forced their way into their home at 10pm on Monday.
The injured man, who had not been arrested, was in a serious but not life-threatening condition.
Hours after Olivia had been named as the victim, Luke Korbel, who is believed to be her cousin, wrote on Facebook: “What
the f***s the world come to ay? “Would never even think of wishing any of this on me worst enemy.”...'
'...Chief Constable Kennedy added: “It is believed that a 35-year-old man was being chased by a man armed with a gun.
“The man being chased forced his way into Olivia’s house and the offender ran in after him, firing a number of shots with
complete disregard for Olivia and her family, who have no connection with the gunman or the man who fought his way in.
“Sadly, Olivia was fatally injured when a gunman fired at the man, who was trying to get into the house and her mum also
suffered a gunshot to her wrist. The 35-year-old-man, who had been chased, suffered a number of gunshots to his upper body.
Whilst Olivia lay dying, he was picked up by his friends who took him to hospital.”
Det Chief Supt Mark Kameen, leading the murder hunt, said the 35-year-old man and a friend were walking down the street
when an armed man wearing a balaclava began shooting at them. He added of the tragedy: “A shot has been fired which we
believe has hit Cheryl, injuring her and then fatally wounding Olivia.
“Olivia at that time, we believe, was stood directly behind Cheryl.
“Despite the horrific circumstances, the attacker has continued the assault and has continued to try and gain entry to the property,
in doing so has then fired two further shots at the 35-year-old man who was, at this point, inside Cheryl and Olivia’s home address.
“The attacker has then left through the front door and has made off on foot.”...'
A 35-year-old man ran into Olivia's home on Kingsheath Avenue, Dovecot, followed by a man armed with a handgun,
after Ms Korbel opened the door to see what the noise was outside at about 22:00 BST
Olivia was fatally shot and Ms Korbel was shot in the wrist as she tried to shut the door
The gunman then fired two more times through the gap in the door, hitting the 35-year-old in the upper body, before
running away
The injured man was then driven away in a black Audi, while Olivia and Ms Korbel were left behind
The gunman was described as about 5ft 7in (170cm), of slim build, carrying a handgun and wearing a black padded jacket,
a black balaclava and black gloves...'
Sadly the mom is partly to blame for this. I don't victim blame, but she opened their front door when she heard gun-shots!! Even if somebody is being chased, family always comes first. It's a no-brainer. Look how the guy's friends callously disregarded them , even the dying girl.
She will always blame herself for her mistake :(
Sad all around.
08-24-2022, 04:38 PM (This post was last modified: 08-24-2022, 07:42 PM by NightskyeB4Dawn.)
(08-24-2022, 03:36 PM)ancientlight Wrote: Sadly the mom is partly to blame for this. I don't victim blame, but she opened their front door when she heard gun-shots!! Even if somebody is being chased, family always comes first. It's a no-brainer. Look how the guy's friends callously disregarded them , even the dying girl.
She will always blame herself for her mistake :(
Sad all around.
I would have likely made the same move.
Growing up in the country I was taught, that you don't run from something when you don't know what you are running from, or where you are running to.
I still live in the woods, and until about five years ago, when I gave up my guns, because of my Mother's vision and hearing issues, if I heard something roaming about, I would collect my shotgun, and I would explore. Nothing like the sound of an engaging shot gun to send trespassers on their way.
Being two old ladies, we have the next best solution to the odd misplaced sounds of the woods. We call our neighbors that are good old country boys, extremely protective of our tiny homesteads, and more than willing to explore and protect.
But if I heard shooting outside of my house, and I could not see where it was coming from, from my windows, I would very likely have opened the door to see what was happening, and what course of action I would need to take.
Just like several weeks ago. We got bombarded with some odd sounds. It actually sounded like we were in the middle of an air strike. Almost everyone out here went outside to see what the hell was going on. None of us could see anything from where we where so a couple of the guys drove out of the woods to see if they could locate where the noise was coming from. No luck, it stopped before they could locate it.
Sometimes staying put or running, when you don't know where to run, is a bigger mistake then facing the unknown you fear.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
08-25-2022, 09:14 PM (This post was last modified: 08-25-2022, 09:16 PM by BIAD.)
The guy who is supposedly the target of the gunmen in the story above id Joseph Nee.
Here's another one.
Quote:Two arrests after woman shot in garden
'A man and a woman have been arrested following the fatal shooting of a woman at her home, who police said was not the
intended target of the attack. Ashley Dale, 28, was found wounded in her back garden in Old Swan, Liverpool, in the early
hours of Sunday and died a short time later in hospital.
Merseyside Police said the man had been arrested on suspicion of murder, while the woman was being held on suspicion
of assisting an offender. They are being questioned by police. The pair, from Liverpool, were arrested on Wednesday evening,
officers said.
Ashley Dale & The car was seen in the area prior to the shooting.
A force spokesman said the council worker was found with gunshot wounds in the garden of her house in Leinster Road at
about 00:40 BST. Ms Dale was the half-sister of 16-year-old Lewis Dunne, who was shot dead in a case of mistaken identity
in Liverpool in 2015.
In a statement, her family said Ms Dale had "so many plans for her bright future that had only just begun", adding that her
"laugh, smile and energy was infectious in any room", her smile and energy was infectious in any room".
'No stone unturned'
A cordon remains in the area while investigations and forensic examinations continue.
The force previously released footage of a car being driven into Leinster Road about 10 minutes before the shooting...'
