Car plows into dozens of protesters at Charlottesville rally

[Grace]

Wow...

This was a terror attack. Whether or not people were protesting something is irrelevant. 

And baseball bats & pepper spray? Against a bunch of nazi sympathizers (better?) chanting "white power" with rifles???

I respectfully disagree

Peaceful protest is unarmed

I do have to pause
Which side is the terrorist?

Nazi stands for the national socialist German workers party. (Which it's being said the group with the permit belonged to)

The woman killed was marching with the democratic socialist party of America (Richmond chapter) 

So, there were two groups of socialists here, one with a permit and one without, the one who did not have a permit to March came armed with ball bats, tear gas, Kevlar etc looking for a fight with the group of permitted socialists. 

They were there fighting over who gets to rule to roost under the banner of socialism after they overthrow our nation. (No other reason for them to fight amongst themselves logically if the group with the permit are indeed Nazis, and we know factually the democratic socialist party in America is busy trying to take over government)

Could care less who of them died in that, less of them for us to have to defend this REPUBLIC against later, since NONE of them believe in OUR way of life. They are ALL fighting against it...

However, if we believe in this REPUBLIC, then the rule of law says the permitted group, those with permission to be there protesting the removal of a statue, were the ONLY ones who should be defended here, as the other group was looking for, and attempting with all they have, to start a young war, and they DIDN'T get themselves a permit.

[Ninurta]

So, voice an opinion peacefully and it's totally cool to be mowed the fuck down by a car? Post one damn comment about a terror attack in the future and I'll be there waiting. Not that you care (you just said that you don't) but I just want the opportunity to bash your hypocrisy.

"Peacefully"?

I don't know if you live in this area, or - if you live safely far from it - what videos you may have not seen of the event, but the protest was FAR from "peaceful"... unless you have a really funny definition of "peaceful".

Let's examine your "terrorism" comment, however. What IS terrorism? Are you hip to the definition of it? For the benefit of those who may not be - and I'm not saying you are included among that number, as I know not whether you are or not - terrorism is defined as "The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Oxford English Dictionary.

ALL of the violence in Charlottesville, especially the inception of it by the "counter protestors" who started the show via the use of chemical weapons against the legally-protected speakers and crowd, fits that definition. Why is it then, that only one side is taking ALL of the blame and ire, without the instigators even getting an Honorable mention?

No.

When one lies down with dogs, one is apt to arise with fleas. When the dead woman picked a side and marched with one faction of America's enemies against another faction of America's enemies, she made her bed.

With dogs.

No amount of Monday-morning quarterbacking is going to change those facts.

No, "getting mowed the fuck down by a car" for peacefully protesting is NOT ok... but you have to be peacefully protesting to qualify for that disclaimer.

She wasn't.

[Ninurta]

Before everyone bashes "who is right and who is wrong" there were seriosuly NAZIS marching through the streets of an American state. Fully fucking armed and marching. I'm all for free speech but if you don't expect a response after millions of our compatriots  died to supress that then fuck off.

This wasnt "thugs against police" or "hippies against 'the man' yo" these are pure blooded nazi sympathizers. Dont f'n mistake that.

Yes, they have freedom to their obsird speech. Yes, they have the freedom to assemble. But fucking run people over because they tried to shout out a bunch of hitler loving cunts? 

I swore a lot, sorry.

But dont give me any bullshit about blood you spilt when I lost a quarter of my bloodline in WW2 because these nazi fucks.

DFC

Sorry to hear about your ancestors, but them's the rules. You pay your dime and take your chances, and sometimes good men die in the fight to preserve freedom. In my opinion, they deserve to be honored, not grouped together with a bunch of modern-day communist rats. I do not, nor ever will I, see these communist "counter protestors" as being the legitimate successors to your honorable ancestors.

That would be YOUR job, not theirs.

Facts are, according to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, free speech is guaranteed to any and all, no matter how distasteful. That distastefullness is the very REASON the First Amendment was necessary. "Free Speech", however, does not include free swinging of ball bats or freedom to throw tear gas into crowds you happen to disagree with. Those action move entirely away from the arena of speech, and firmly into assault.

There is no Amendment that guarantees free assault.

Nazis? Pffft. Nazis have been has-beens since 1945. Don't expect me to view them as a serious and credible threat.

Your ancestors took care of that problem for us, and for that I thank them.

Speaking of serious, credible, and PRESENT threats, have you not noticed the current tactical trend of the neo-socialists to block passage of innocent bystanders on roadways and even sidewalks? Food for thought there. They've been doing it since at least the days of the Occupy movement, right on through BLM (blocked entire freeways nation-wide), up to the current day. Now that blocking public passage is also illegal.

Seems to me to be a whole lot of illegal stacking up against these neo-socialists.


.

[Ninurta]

@"Ninurta" 

"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

you're "dumb Darwin award winner"

VICTIM

From your article:

Heyer, who worked for a law firm in nearby Ruckersville, Virginia, had decided to travel to Charlottesville to join a group of counter-protesters, her family said.

I rest my case.

She deliberately went there to join a violent crowd. She paid her dime and took her chance...

... and she lost.

I stand by my previous post. Give the woman her Darwin Award.


.

[Ninurta]

Wow...

This was a terror attack. Whether or not people were protesting something is irrelevant. 

And baseball bats & pepper spray? Against a bunch of nazi sympathizers (better?) chanting "white power" with rifles???

I'm calling bullshit on the rifle claim - how many of the communists were SHOT?

Or, if the "Nazi sympathizers" WERE armed with rifles, and still failed to shoot their attackers, what does that tell you about which side was actually being violent?


.

[Armonica_Templar]

Ok folks, here’s what REALLY happened in Charlottesville – and what everyone is missing

This past weekend I was honored to be in a most picturesque place with some great and hospitable folks in Prescott (Yavapai County) Arizona. I was there to address the Republican Women of Prescott, the nation’s largest Republican women’s club, on their 75th anniversary. The scenery there was just breathtaking and there was just a sense of solemnness that we all need experience from time to time. How great a contrast it was from what was happening across the country in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Let me begin by saying, I deplore any form of supremacist view — white, black, Hispanic, Islamic. I will be the first to openly state and embrace, a sense of American exceptionalism and supremacy that is rooted in our founding principles and values. Any and all else that is contradictory is to be condemned. What I have witnessed post the events of Saturday 12 August is the typical Rahm Emanuel mentality and political posturing: “never let a good crisis go to waste.”

Therefore, I seek to assess what really happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
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First, may God rest the soul of 32-year-old Heather Heyer who tragically lost her life. My sincere condolences to her, her family, and those others who were injured. I fully support seeking the death penalty for 20-year-old James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio who committed this horrific act of violence. But, how did we get to this place?

This all began because someone decided, as other elected officials have across the country, to cave in to partisan political pressures and seek to erase American history. History is not there for us to love or hate, but for us to learn from and seek to not repeat its mistakes.

If there are those who truly believe we protect ourselves by trying to revise history due to false emotions, then we miss out on who we are as a nation, and our evolution. The statues of long since deceased leaders of the Confederate Army do not stand to remind anyone of oppression. And if a statue can oppress you, then I submit that you have greater issues.



I certainly did not appreciate former President Barack Obama taking a photo op in Cuba before the image of Che Guevara, nor do I enjoy seeing anyone wearing said image on t-shirts here in America…but I do not go into some whimsical state of “oppression.”

And so it is that we do possess in this Constitutional Republic a freedom of speech and freedom of expression. It would appear that said group who didn’t wish to see the statue of Virginian, General Robert E. Lee, who was a commissioned U.S. Army officer, graduate of West Point, and served the nation in the Mexican War, taken down did apply for a permit to hold a rally. We can dislike these individuals, but they took proper measures to secure permission to express their First Amendment right.

Contrary to their position, the word went out for a counter-protest to occur which included groups from a different side of the political spectrum, who have also been very guilty of hateful rhetoric and violence. What should have happened is that these two groups should have been kept miles apart. I do not understanding why any local law enforcement agency would allow these two groups close proximity…first lesson learned. And we must also ascertain, did the counter-protest group seek permit or did they just “show up” in order to provoke, and elicit a response they could use “politically?” Yes, motivations are important to understand in this case, if we’re serious about getting to the bottom of what happened in Charlottesville and not just the typical media-driven frenzy.


I find it rather odd that so many are seeking to lay blame on President Trump for what happened in Charlottesville. And there are some voices out there who want to blame all white people, and all Republicans. How odd that when it was the New Black Panther Party outside a voting precinct in Philadelphia in black fatigues and with clubs, nothing was said.

As a matter of fact, they weren’t even prosecuted for voter intimidation. And when it was the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore fueled by media false narratives and a presidential administration’s rhetoric, there was no blame laid on Barack Obama. It appears to me that there is a blatant hypocrisy when an individual commits a horrible crime, such as in Charleston, South Carolina, and a collective group of people are to be held accountable.

But, when there’s an Islamic terror attack people say, “we cannot rush to judgment” or “this is not indicative of all Muslims”…to wit I agree, but why not call the enemy for what it is” militant Islamic terrorism or jihadism? Why must some be browbeaten into condemning the actions of a few, yet we have others who have fully admitted their support to groups calling for a “resistance?” And where were the voices to condemn the violence in Washington DC on Inauguration Day, or even at UC-Berkeley…or the violence committed against those who support the current president or hold beliefs aligned with Constitutional conservatism?

If we want to condemn groups such as the neo-Nazis and others, then we must also condemn groups such as BLM and Antifa. And we need to stop the cherrypicking, as they all should be investigated. Let’s end this absurdity of trying to connect the Republican Party with the Ku Klux Klan, since it was a creation of the Democrat Party. And I seem to recall Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, infamously known as a grand wizard of the Klan, lauded over at his memorial by Barack Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton. It was Senator Byrd who was vehemently against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen who supported its passage.


James Alex Fields will be punished to the full extent of the law, and I truly believe he should never see the light of day again. But if we blindly do not realize there has been an atmosphere of hatred fomented in this nation, we are ignorant. Who even remembers the fella who attempted to gun down several Republican Members of Congress at a baseball practice, severely wounding Rep. Steve Scalise? The mainstream liberal progressive media pushed that aside rather quickly, and let us not forget MSNBC commentator, Joy Reid, who on her Sunday show actually sought to justify Rep. Scalise’s shooting because of his voting record. Now, where was the condemnation there, and why is it that Ms. Reid still has a position and a show on that network?

Fareed Zakaria praised the Central Park play depicting the “Caesar-like” stabbing to death of President Trump — last time I checked he was still on CNN. And how many Democrat elected officials were pressured into making statements of condemnation of one Kathy Griffith who notoriously held up the bloodied severed head resembling President Trump?

There’s plenty of guilt to be passed around here, but the progressive socialist left will sadly exploit this for all they can. They will horribly believe this will provide them some sort of electoral advantage. They fail to realize they’re just as complicit in what happened in Charlottesville. Let me ask that age-old rhetorical question: “if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is there, does it make a sound?”

If we were to go back and ponder this incident and just let a small group of disaffected individuals hold a rally to protest the possible taking down of a statue of General Robert E. Lee, and no one had showed up…Instead a call went out and trouble, violence ensued. Or maybe, if we had courageous elected officials who would just say, those statues aren’t offending anyone; they’re part of American history, and they stay. Imagine that, would there even be a story, any rally, and violence?

What happened in Charlottesville must not be allowed to happen again. And that means we need to hold ANY group responsible that promotes violence. “What do we want, dead cops; when do we want them, now”…”Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon”…no more. Our streets aren’t the place for hoods and masks, such as Antifa wears, and their violence and destruction of property. Let’s call them all out, and not have this selective enforcement mentality rooted in partisan political hackery. If we don’t stop the blatant hypocrisy, which is truly the problem, then we’re sitting on a powder keg — which I believe some wish for.

I have an idea. If y’all want to fight, sign up in the U.S. military — if you meet the standards. There are plenty of folks who do indeed hate the United States. Channel your angst against them…not each other.

[Learn more about Allen West’s vision for this nation in his book Guardian of the Republic: An American Ronin’s Journey to Faith, Family and Freedom]

[Mystic Wanderer]

Ok folks, here’s what REALLY happened in Charlottesville – and what everyone is missing

[Learn more about Allen West’s vision for this nation in his book Guardian of the Republic: An American Ronin’s Journey to Faith, Family and Freedom]

[Mystic Wanderer]

Hey Daddy @"Ninurta", isn't this Uncle Billy Bob, your brother?  

(Click on picture to watch video)

[Ninurta]

Hey Daddy @"Ninurta", isn't this Uncle Billy Bob, your brother?  

(Click on picture to watch video)

I couldn't git no danged video to play, but that there shore does look like muh twin brother Billy Bob! Glad he's over that phase where he wore a fancy smoking jacket and insisted we call him "Wiiliam Robert"!

[guohua]

Excellent Video Mystic Wanderer.
I don't know how you got it to plug in like that and play but it works! 

Looked like you had Mr.G's. younger cousin, Steve, he's a hard rock miner in the Superstition Mountains.
Looks like him and talks like him,,,,,,

[Mystic Wanderer]

Excellent Video Mystic Wanderer.
I don't know how you got it to plug in like that and play but it works! 

Looked like you had Mr.G's. younger cousin, Steve, he's a hard rock miner in the Superstition Mountains.
Looks like him and talks like him,,,,,,

It came from Face Book. All their videos look like only pictures when I post them here, that's why I always tell people to (click on the picture to play the video).   I just used the Face Book selection in the video selection up top.  

[guohua]

Excellent Video Mystic Wanderer.
I don't know how you got it to plug in like that and play but it works! 

Looked like you had Mr.G's. younger cousin, Steve, he's a hard rock miner in the Superstition Mountains.
Looks like him and talks like him,,,,,,

It came from Face Book. All their videos look like only pictures when I post them here, that's why I always tell people to (click on the picture to play the video).   I just used the Face Book selection in the video selection up top.  

GREAT! I just learned Something!!

[guohua]

Here is a Little bit of news not many people have heard of I think.

Anti-Trump activist accused of shooting, killing Trump-supporting neighbor with semi-automatic

Clayton Carter, a 51-year-old resident of West Goshen, Pennsylvania, was accused of shooting and killing his neighbor after a “long-running dispute.”


Carter allegedly shot his neighbor, Brooks Jennings, 51, twice in the head with a semi-automatic handgun as the two faced off in Jennings’ yard. Carter was arrested and taken into custody, and was later charged with first-degree murder and related offenses.

Chester County District Attorney Tom Hogan commented on the matter and said, “This killing leaves a wife without a husband, a little boy without a father, and a community in shock and mourning.”

Hogan added that the shooting death of Jennings was the culmination of a long-running feud between the two neighbors.

It was reported that prior to the fatal shooting, local law enforcement were called to break up a verbal argument between the two men.

Several hours after the police left, they were called again after Carter and Jennings were said to be involved in property spotlight dispute.

Jennings was said to be shining a flashlight in Carter’s face, and in retaliation, Carter allegedly shined his vehicle’s high-beams into the windows of the Jennings home.

According to NBC Philadelphia, Carter told law enforcement that Jennings had tried to attack him with a knife and his reported shooting was in self-defense.

“My client is claiming self-defense and justification,” Carter’s attorney, Terrence Marlowe said in a statement. “Mr. Jennings was tormenting him and attacked him with a knife.”

Philly.com reported that the feud between the two men resulted in over 70 calls to police over the last five years.

World Net Daily reported that Carter’s yard was filled with “anti-Trump signs,” and noted that Carter had a criminal record dating back nearly two decades for violence-related offenses.

Jennings, a former member of the Chester County Republican Committee, leaves behind a nine-year-old son and wife.

So,,, where is the Knife,,,,, I'm sure the Police would have found a knife someplace in the yard.
Source

the MSM is all over this,,,,,,,,,,NOT!

[BIAD]

From The BBC. Wednesday, 16th Aug. 2017.

Trump stance on Charlottesville violence angers Republicans.

'Leading figures in Donald Trump's Republican party have reacted angrily to his latest comments
blaming both sides for the violent clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday.
They culminated with a person being killed and many injured when a car hit people opposed to a
far-right rally...'

Well someone was fighting with someone, so who were the sides?
We know who the rally was organised for, the Far-Right. A group of racist bigots who had somehow
obtained a permit to have the meeting. But were they fighting among themselves?

'...Many echoed House Speaker Paul Ryan who said: "White supremacy is repulsive.. There can be
no moral ambiguity." Mr Trump had condemned white supremacist groups on Monday.
But on Tuesday he reverted to his initial reaction...'

I'll take it there's a uniform that accompanies those who project themselves as 'Captain Obvious'
and as any fourth-grader could tell you, the majority of the public that Mr. Ryan is speaking to, would
agree with his assumed outrage.

'...The right-wing march had been organised to protest against the proposed removal of a statue of
Gen Robert E Lee, who commanded the pro-slavery Confederate forces during the American Civil
War.
The event drew white supremacy groups...'

Ah-ha, found them! The 'right-wing group' -an ambiguous title at best from the BBC, fought against
white supremacy groups... got it. And the tragedy ensued from that confrontation?

'...Violence broke out after they were confronted by anti-fascism groups. A BBC correspondent at the
scene described how members of the so-called "alt-right" openly carried rifles and were dressed in
full tactical gear...'

Hmmm, this is a dilemma. A permit-carrying group met with a white supremacist group -who'll we
must guess held a permit too and then, another group called 'anti-fascism' -brandishing their own
permit, came to hold a counter-rally?

Surely there was a breakdown in communication within the Charlottesville City Officialdom?
It's just a darn shame the BBC correspondent -who was there on behalf of the British Broacasting
Corporation on the off-chance something newsworthy occurred, didn't realise the error and contact
someone from the Charlottesville Council and asked what on earth happened.
Ce la vie.

In my humble opinion -and if I was a law-enforcement officer, I think the group wearing tactical gear
and carrying rifles should've really been dealt with immediately! A peaceful protest of whatever they
believed in doesn't require firearms, does it?
(I'm a defenceless Brit, so whadda I know?!!)

'...Their leftist rivals threw bottles, rocks and paint. Pepper spray was used by both sides...'

The writer means 'rightists' doesn't he...? Or is he stating that to begin with, a permit-holding anti-fascist
group hurled bottles, rocks and paint?
By the way, another coincidence is that a store was open nearby where these alleged 'leftists' could
purchase their tins of paint. The owner of the paint-shop must accept some blame on that one.

Both sides (I thought there were three?!)... had pepper-spray, which I assume is not because everyone
expected violence, but because it's a prerequisite when having a permit to protest.
Heck... any fourth-grader can tell you that!

'..."I think there is blame on both sides," Mr Trump told reporters at a tense press conference at Trump
Tower in New York.
"You had a group on one side that was bad. You had a group on the other side that was also very
violent. Nobody wants to say that. I'll say it right now."...'

I'll refrain on commenting on the rational logic of the President's statement and just say that people
hate (hate?!!) him because of his hair and fake-tan. A rational dialectic from a white-ish male has no
place in a society that kills blacks and perceives illegal immigration as a crime.

'..."What about the alt-left that came charging... at the, as you say, the alt-right? Do they have any
semblance of guilt? (...) There are two sides to a story," Mr Trump said in response to one reporter...

Aye... and he's just saying it because he's a Klan-member. There were men and women there at
that rally with a permit to counter... there were men and women and other genders and races there
to counter the Nazis and white supremacist protest and to do it peacefully.
With bottles, rocks and paint... but both sides had pepper-spray.

'...He condemned the driver of a car that ploughed into one group of anti-racism protesters, killing
32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring 19 others...'

Move along Capt. Obvious and for any young folk reading this, that doesn't mean I'm being heartless
or 'un-feeling'

'....But he said that those who had marched in defence of the statue had included "many fine people";
and he asked whether statues of former presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson
should also be torn down, because they had been slave-owners...'

And the answer to the question...? No...? Mr. Acosta... maybe you have a poem about this query
from your leader?

'...Mr Trump's remarks were welcomed by David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who
tweeted:
"Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the
truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa."
But many others strongly condemned the comments...'

Oooh. Black-Lives-Matter and Antifa were there! Can we assume they were the 'Leftists' that -by past
histories, have been involved in heavy-handed peaceful protesting?
Wow! This information is a little late and placed well down in the article.

But the tweet is condemned for it's content by 'others' and so it's either false information or these
'others' do not like the manner that the mentioned-groups are tainted in the tweet's implication.

'...Of the reactions of some 55 Republican and Democrat politicians collected by the Washington Post,
only the spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, Kayleigh McEnany, expressed her
support.

"President @realDonaldTrump once again denounced hate today.
The GOP stands behind his message of love and inclusiveness!"...'

The revolving position for Captain Obvious is always up for grabs.

'...Veteran Republican Senator John McCain tweeted: "There is no moral equivalency between racists
& Americans standing up to defy hate & bigotry."...'

When is somebody going to go on the record around here and say the sky is blue?

'...One of Mr Trump's former rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, Marco Rubio sent a
series of tweets.

"Mr. President,you can't allow #WhiteSupremacists to share
only part of blame.They support idea which cost nation &
world so much pain 5/6"...'

The 'head-in-hand' emoji just won't cut it anymore.

'...Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO trade union federation, became the fifth prominent business
leader to resign from President Trump's advisory body, the American Manufacturing Council, over the
issue.

He said he could not take part "for a president who tolerates bigotry and domestic terrorism".
In another development, the response of former President Barack Obama to the violence in Charlottesville
has become the most-liked tweet ever.

The message, quoting Nelson Mandela, reads: "No-one is born hating another person because of the
colour of his skin or his background or his religion."
It has been "liked" nearly three million times since being posted on Sunday...'

I agree with Mr. Trumka, people who involve themselves in this sort of terrorism should be held accountable
and prosecuted to the full letter of the law. Or at least, be denied a rally-permit.
(Jeezus, this is like fourth-grade educating... melmet or no melmet!)

Ex-President Obama's tweet is wise and relevant to the statue... which is an inanimate object.
I apologise that I'm unable to judge the worth of the amount of 'likes' I know what it means, but I don't
know what it really means.

However, those who constructed the effigy of General Robert E Lee should be imprisoned for their
insensitivity and regardless of the letter he sent to his wife regarding slavery, should be seen as a
'bad person' -who is white too.

'...On Monday, Donald Trump's condemnation of the far-right came from advisers counselling him on what
was politically necessary to defuse the growing storm following the Charlottesville violence.
On Tuesday, the president said what he really thought.

Although he initially explained away the delay in condemnations of white supremacists as necessary
for him to gather "the facts" of the situation, the nature of the protests were quite evident by the evening
before, when demonstrators chanting white supremacist slogans held a torchlight parade through
Charlottesville...'

At the time of this writing, I can state that I have also written a letter to the UK Metropolitan Police and
demanded that some of our officers be 'dragooned' over to Charlottesville in the hopes that a law
enforcement agency can be created.

This will:
A. Provide on-the-ground information for those officials who are accountable when such tragic and violent
incidents appear.
B. Can enforce the State and Country law in order prevent such hysterical and frightening gatherings in the
name of arcane-belief of 'free-speech'

I'm quite sure that if a crime was being committed or a law was being broken, then a police presence
at the rally could have assisted in quelling this terrible torchlight parade.
(Seriously, the 'head-in-hand' emoji will certainly not suffice!)

'...In any regard, Mr Trump has shown little reluctance in jumping to conclusions about violent incidents
when it appears Islamic extremism is at play...'

Hash-Tag-Not All something or other.
I'm getting lost in all this bullshit... are they saying that Trump didn't ball-out the Klan enough or that
he shouldn't have balled-out BLM and Antifa at all?!

'...Upon further questioning, it became clear that the president views the Charlottesville unrest as far
from a one-sided affair...'

If Trump get's the 'affair' involved two sides, he's ahead of most of the MSM!!

'...Mixed in among the white supremacists, he said, were some good, peaceful people protesting the
removal of a statue (of a man who led an army against the US government).
And there were plenty of violent individuals among the counter-protesters as well...'

WAIT A MOMENT...!! (shouted in Kevin Kline's 'pompous Brit' voice from 'A Fish Called Wanda')
That's coming in a bit late, isn't it?!! There were plenty of violent indiv... can you actually say that, BBC?

But I thought the Nazis were the violent troublemakers...? You're saying (right at the f*ckin' end of your
article)... that there was another facet to this confrontation.
Got it.

'...When the president on Saturday said there were "many sides" to blame, he meant it.

If Donald Trump's initial handling of the fallout from Charlottesville started a political fire, on
Tuesday the president poured on a bucket of kerosene and danced around the flames...'

Government-Funded BBC:

You mean he said something that the Democr... the mainstream media didn't like and he then forced
you give it air-time to deter anyone from calling you a set of baised outlets.
Christ, any fourth-grader can see through your thinly-veiled tenaciousness.

[Mystic Wanderer]

@"BIAD" said,

At the time of this writing, I can state that I have also written a letter to the UK Metropolitan Police and
demanded that some of our officers be 'dragooned' over to Charlottesville in the hopes that a law
enforcement agency can be created.

This will:
A. Provide on-the-ground information for those officials who are accountable when such tragic and violent
incidents appear.
B. Can enforce the State and Country law in order prevent such hysterical and frightening gatherings in the
name of arcane-belief of 'free-speech'

I'm quite sure that if a crime was being committed or a law was being broken, then a police presence
at the rally could have assisted in quelling this terrible torchlight parade.
(Seriously, the 'head-in-hand' emoji will certainly not suffice!)

There was a police presence, but they were ordered to stand down. Then when one side (not sure which one; I'm confused at this point too) wanted to leave, the police forced them to use the exit that pushed them right into the face of the opposition.  That's when things got really bad.

This was a staged event (False Flag) to cause chaos, then the media used it to further the hate to divide our country.
Soros and his minions at play again!

[BIAD]

There was a police presence, but they were ordered to stand down. Then when one side (not sure which one; I'm confused at this point too) wanted to leave, the police forced them to use the exit that pushed them right into the face of the opposition.  That's when things got really bad.

This was a staged event (False Flag) to cause chaos, then the media used it to further the hate to divide our country.
Soros and his minions at play again!

I know, Mystic... but for those who refuse to see the obvious, I felt that a lil' hand-holding was
required. I have no benefit or loss from what happened in Charlottesville, but it p*sses me off when
some are unable to view it with a neutral eye.

It's almost 'cult-ish' in it's nature. The inability to perceive an incident like this -that was without any
positive policing and the fact that both sides were responsible for the violence.
I don't care who-voted-for-who, but I would've thought truth would be a noble goal to maintain instead
of name-calling and comments that seriously debating the subject is too lofty for RN members to appreciate.

It's schoolyard behavior in regards of tossing insulting comments about and then threatening to leave the
website. It is called 'Ring & Run'
(Rant over! -and certainly not aimed at you!)

[Mystic Wanderer]

There was a police presence, but they were ordered to stand down. Then when one side (not sure which one; I'm confused at this point too) wanted to leave, the police forced them to use the exit that pushed them right into the face of the opposition.  That's when things got really bad.

This was a staged event (False Flag) to cause chaos, then the media used it to further the hate to divide our country.
Soros and his minions at play again!

I know, Mystic... but for those who refuse to see the obvious, I felt that a lil' hand-holding was
required. I have no benefit or loss from what happened in Charlottesville, but it p*sses me off when
some are unable to view it with a neutral eye.

It's almost 'cult-ish' in it's nature. The inability to perceive an incident like this -that was without any
positive policing and the fact that both sides were responsible for the violence.
I don't care who-voted-for-who, but I would've thought truth would be a noble goal to maintain instead
of name-calling and comments that seriously debating the subject is too lofty for RN members to appreciate.

It's schoolyard behavior in regards of tossing insulting comments about and then threatening to leave the
website. It is called 'Ring & Run'
(Rant over! -and certainly not aimed at you!)

Agreed.  

[BIAD]

Agreed.  

I can understand the concerns of having Nazi-sympathisers and white supremacists congregating to
protest for political demands, but not to mention this shower of sh*t...?

[DuckforcoveR]

“For half an hour, three men dressed in fatigues and armed with semi-automatic rifles stood across the street from the temple,” he wrote. “Had they tried to enter, I don’t know what I could have done to stop them, but I couldn’t take my eyes off them, either.”

Not only did armed protesters stand across from the synagogue, but neo-Nazis paraded past the building, shouting anti-Semitic slogans, a horrible reminder of Nazi Germany’s persecution and mass slaughter of European Jews.
“Several times, parades of Nazis passed our building, shouting, 'There's the synagogue!' followed by chants of 'Seig Heil' and other anti-Semitic language. Some carried flags with swastikas and other Nazi symbols,” Zimmerman wrote.

Bunch of "regular Joe" protesters my ass...

Seig Heil!

[Mystic Wanderer]

I don't think ANY of them are "regular protesters" @"DuckforcoveR".  They are all extremists, and I don't agree with either of them.
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Here is an interesting study done by psychologists on the Alt-right supporters. It's rather long, so I'll only post a portion of it.
Click on the link to read the full report:  Psychologists surveyed hundreds of alt-right supporters. The results are unsettling.

Recently, psychologists Patrick Forscher and Nour Kteily recruited members of the alt-right (a.k.a. the “alternative right,” the catchall political identity of white nationalists) to participate in a study to build the first psychological profile of their movement. The results, which were released on August 9, are just in working paper form, and have yet to be peer-reviewed or published in an academic journal.

That said, the study uses well-established psychological measures and is clear about its limitations. (And all the researchers’ raw data and materials have been posted online for others to review.)

So while it is a preliminary assessment, it validates some common perceptions of the alt-right with data. It helps us understand this group not just as straw men but as people with knowable motivations.

A lot of the findings align with what we intuit about the alt-right: This group is supportive of social hierarchies that favor whites at the top. It’s distrustful of mainstream media and strongly opposed to Black Lives Matter. Respondents were highly supportive of statements like, “There are good reasons to have organization that look out for the interests of white people.” And when they look at other groups — like black Americans, Muslims, feminists, and journalists — they’re willing to admit they see these people as “less evolved.”

But it’s the degree to which the alt-righters differed from the comparison sample that’s most striking — especially when it came to measures of dehumanization, support for collective white action, and admitting to harassing others online. That surprised even Forscher, the lead author and a professor at the University of Arkansas, who typically doesn’t find such large group difference in his work.

There was a time when psychologists feared that “social desirability bias” — people unwilling to admit they’re prejudiced, for fear of being shamed — would prevent people from answering such questions about prejudice truthfully. But this survey shows people will readily admit to believing all sorts of vile things. And researchers don’t need to use implicit or subliminal measures to suss it all out.