Well ol Fidel finally kicked the bucket .... former leader of Cuba who after the u.s turned down his request for help overthrowing Batista turned to the russians ...... and the rest is history ......  

Castro kicked the bucket

Good.

Glad the old bastard is gone.

My dear old dad always said "Iffen he's a bastard while he's alive, he'll be a bastard after he's dead, too", meaning no respect for the dead that never deserved any respect while they were alive.

First I outlived Che, now I've outlived Fidel, and if I can manage to outlive Daniel Ortega, I'll consider that a trifecta, and I can die a happy man.

I bet they're celebrating in Miami about now. I'd go outside and crank off a few rounds into the dirt in celebration, too, but around here that might draw return fire in the dark and all...

... then I might not get to outlive that prick Ortega!

(11-26-2016, 07:18 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Good.

Glad the old bastard is gone.

My dear old dad always said "Iffen he's a bastard while he's alive, he'll be a bastard after he's dead, too", meaning no respect for the dead that never deserved any respect while they were alive.

First I outlived Che, now I've outlived Fidel, and if I can manage to outlive Daniel Ortega, I'll consider that a trifecta, and I can die a happy man.

I bet they're celebrating in Miami about now. I'd go outside and crank off a few rounds into the dirt in celebration, too, but around here that might draw return fire in the dark and all...

... then I might not get to outlive that prick Ortega!

You can't leave it like that! Please, for possible younger members, can you expand your reasons of glee?!

The media painted him as a noble revolutionary that seemed to want freedom for a down-trodden populace.
A cigar-chomping leader that wished -because it was reported thus, his people to remain free of capitalism.

However, the same mainstream media left out a few things.

(11-26-2016, 10:05 AM)BIAD Wrote: You can't leave it like that! Please, for possible younger members, can you expand your reasons of glee?!

The media painted him as a noble revolutionary that seemed to want freedom for a down-trodden populace.
A cigar-chomping leader that wished -because it was reported thus, his people to remain free of capitalism.

However, the same mainstream media left out a few things.

Wow... your right. I had to go and look at what the media was saying because of what you said and it's fairly well glowing. Crazy.. the worst thing the associated press said about him was followed with a paragraph intended to counter the negative.

Quote:Within months, Castro was imposing radical economic reforms. Members of the old government went before summary courts, and at least 582 were shot by firing squads over two years. Independent newspapers were closed and in the early years, homosexuals were herded into camps for "re-education."
In 1964, Castro acknowledged holding 15,000 political prisoners. Hundreds of thousands of Cubans fled, including Castro's daughter Alina Fernandez Revuelta and his younger sister Juana.
Still, the revolution thrilled millions in Cuba and across Latin America who saw it as an example of how the seemingly arrogant Yankees could be defied. And many on the island were happy to see the seizure of property of the landed class, the expulsion of American gangsters and the closure of their casinos.

https://www.apnews.com/5ef60f67cefb46869...dies-at-90

This article in its entirety is just crazy how they try and make Castro look so wonderful.

(11-26-2016, 12:00 PM)Grace Wrote: Wow... your right. I had to go and look at what the media was saying because of what you said
and it's fairly well glowing. Crazy.. the worst thing the associated press said about him was followed
with a paragraph to counter it.. 

'...Within months, Castro was imposing radical economic reforms.
Members of the old government went before summary courts, and at least 582 were shot by firing
squads over two years. Independent newspapers were closed and in the early years, homosexuals
were herded into camps for "re-education."

In 1964, Castro acknowledged holding 15,000 political prisoners. Hundreds of thousands of Cubans
fled, including Castro's daughter Alina Fernandez Revuelta and his younger sister Juana.

Still, the revolution thrilled millions in Cuba and across Latin America who saw it as an example of how

the seemingly arrogant Yankees could be defied. And many on the island were happy to see the seizure
of property of the landed class, the expulsion of American gangsters and the closure of their casinos...'

Yep...! And now those who weren't around at the time and only give a cursory glance at the
available information, will see a narrative that doesn't purvey the whole truth.

A bearded guerrilla who's only wish was to see his supposedly capitalist-oppressed people free and
who's sole-aim was to oust the wealthy -a class of people he came from and also married into, from
an island only ninety miles from the one country Russia shared the Superpower status with.

A Marxist-Leninist... the same ideology as Oswald.
But all you'll read about is exploding cigars and a vague wave at something called 'The Cuban
Missile Crisis'

Anyway, the celebrating Cubans are have a nine-day mourning for him, but I'll guess the same
folk who're rejoicing in the streets were told they were having a nine-day mourning.

(11-26-2016, 12:23 PM)BIAD Wrote: Yep...! And now those who weren't around at the time and only give a cursory glance at the available information, will see a narrative that doesn't purvey the whole truth.

A bearded guerrilla who's only wish was to see his supposedly capitalist-oppressed people free and who's sole-aim was to oust the wealthy - a class of people he came from and also married into, from an island only ninety miles from the one country Russia shared the Superpower status with.

A Marxist-Leninist... the same ideology as Oswald.
But all you'll read about is exploding cigars and a vague wave at something called 'The Cuban
Missile Crisis'

Anyway, the celebrating Cubans are have a nine-day mourning for him, but I'll guess the same
folk who're rejoicing in the streets were told they were having a nine-day mourning.

I'm fairly certain Raul won't be allowing any celebrating in the streets for the media to see, a person could find themselves jailed for such a thing, no, they will be keeping their celebrating behind closed doors. 

Funny though, how quickly the abuse of power and civil rights/human rights violations committed by Castro inside Cuban borders got blamed on the United States. 

From your link:

Quote:Former London mayor Ken Livingstone said Castro was an “absolute giant of the 20th century” and blamed the US for the restrictions on civil liberties under his leadership.

These people are rewriting history while we still live!

Your correct, this needs an answer with the truth.. and Ninurta is a good one to do it.. If he has time.

(11-26-2016, 12:43 PM)Grace Wrote: These people are rewriting history while we still live!

They are. The fact that the world was on the verge of nuclear destruction because of Castro's
willingness to allow the missiles onto Cuba, will be played as a vague 'possible outcome' and
mainstream media will never comment on why the Russians wanted them there in the first
place.

I know they may trot out the old 'Well, the States had missiles in Turkey' chestnut, but MSM
will restrain from mentioning why Castro was willing to put hs own people in the middle of a
radioactive battlefield.

(11-26-2016, 12:43 PM)Grace Wrote: ...and Ninurta is a good one to do it.. If he has time.

Yes!
Hopefully, there may be other Rogue members who can offer some real history too.

(11-26-2016, 12:54 PM)BIAD Wrote:

(11-26-2016, 12:43 PM)Grace Wrote: ...and Ninurta is a good one to do it.. If he has time.

Yes!
Hopefully, there may be other Rogue members who can offer some real history too.

Not for at least another 50 years ........ then might publish my journals ........

(11-26-2016, 01:59 PM)Daitengu Wrote: Not for at least another 50 years ........ then might publish my journals ........

Go on Dait, Rogue Nation will provide two bottles of Gordi's private stash of Pulteney whisky (I had to look it up!)
and a single box of Cuban cigars.

Just a couple of paragraphs of your personal perception of Fidel's time on earth...?

Thank Your God, That Animal is Dead!

Quote:The Cuba Archive which documents deaths and disappearances resulting from Fidel Castro’s Cuban revolution has documented 3,615 firing squad executions conducted by the Cuban state since Castro took over on January 1, 1959.

Most people don’t realize that he was Fidel Castro’s chief enforcer and had a personal hand in at least 100 firing squad executions, often delivering the coup de grace personally. In response to questions about Castro’s firing squads Guevara once said, “To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution. And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.”

Quote:Below is a photograph of a firing squad victim being blindfolded by a young Raul Castro. It’s important to note that Raul the current Cuban dictator who is often touted as a soft-hearted and pragmatic man has as much blood on his hands as his older brother, Fidel.

Quote:More ghastly photographs of Castro’s firing squads are available at TheRealCuba.com and LatinAmericanStudies.org.

The Castro brothers have also used firing squads more recently. In the summer of 1989 the Castro regime arrested Cuban Army General Arnaldo Ochoa and several other officers. They were charged with drug trafficking. Within a few weeks Ochoa and three others were dead at the hands of a Castro firing squad. The trial was a farce in which Ochoa was forced to confess (video here). Many believe the real crime committed by Ochoa and others charged was disloyalty since Cuba was a known transshipment point for illegal drugs for years and it is highly unlikely that the Castro brothers were unaware of it and not profiting from it.

In April 2003 Fidel Castro’s government executed 3 men who hijacked a ferry boat in an attempt to escape Cuba. 

Quote:In 1994 Cuba was at the height of “the special period”. This was Fidel Castro’s euphemism for the austerity resulting from the collapse of the Soviet Union that had been subsidizing Cuba since the early 1960s. Food was scarce, times were extremely tough and Cubans were desperate to escape the dictatorship taking to sea in whatever would float. Here’s a first person account of what life was like:

Quote:The collapse of the Soviet Union, our sugar daddy, had led to an economic crisis in Cuba. Twelve or more hours of daily power outages harassed neighborhoods without mercy. Hoarding water became a nightmare for those who did not have enough reservoirs. At some kitchen tables, steaks changed into grapefruit steaks; soap sometimes substituted for toothpaste…
Something had to change. In fact, some Cubans chose to build rafts and risk their lives in the Florida Straits to reach American land.

One July morning in 1994 a group of 72 Cubans boarded a state-owned tugboat (named 13 de Marzo) with the intent to navigate it to freedom. Within minutes the vessel was under attack by other state-owned tugboats. By the time the incident was over 41 Cubans were dead. 10 of them were children.

Quote:So Brothers to the Rescue began more overtly political sorties and occasionally flew into Cuban airspace to drop leaflets. February 24, 1996 was not one of those occasions but that did not stop Cuban Airforce MIG jets from shooting two unarmed civilian aircraft out of the sky over international waters killing all four aboard.

This short film (in Spanish with English subtitles) contains actual recordings of radio transmissions between Castro’s Cuban Air Force pilots and their superiors on the ground. You can hear them begging for authorization to shoot down the unarmed propellor aircraft and their glee when the planes disintegrate upon impact of their missiles:

 

Quote:Fidel Castro admitted that he was responsible for the shoot down but tried to justify it as seen in this trailer for a documentary film about this crime.

Read the other & known offences of the Murdering Animal The Left Like To Talk About and Praise Cuba as some type of Utopia because of Castro.
Source

I used to think that the Embargo was what led him to hold on for so long. A system of government that was collapsing around the world under its own weight was NOT being highlighted in Cuba. In Cuba, it was the big bad Yankees to the north that caused their hardship. With no embargo (I thought) Castro would have fallen under that weight without anybody else to blame it on. 

I know there's more to it than that, but that's my $.02

Long live the King! That seems to be the sentiment highlighted in the news today (as many of you have already pointed out). It's surreal...

DFC

Click on the "picture" to see the video.  

And One  Not So P C politician Tell the Truth!
Now can you guess who that is? 

Quote:Trump condemns Castro as 'brutal dictator' 

That's right and that makes me Happy.

Quote:Donald Trump condemned the late Cuban leader Fidel Castro on an otherwise quiet Saturday for the president-elect.
"The world marks the passing of a brutal dictator who oppressed his own people for nearly six decades," Trump said in a statement issued hours after Castro's death. "Fidel Castro’s legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights."
Trump, who has pledged to roll back the Obama administration's diplomatic opening to Cuba, said the nation remains "a totalitarian island," but he hopes that Castro's passing will mark "a move away from the horrors endured for too long, and toward a future in which the wonderful Cuban people finally live in the freedom they so richly deserve."

Source

(11-26-2016, 02:21 PM)BIAD Wrote:

(11-26-2016, 01:59 PM)Daitengu Wrote: Not for at least another 50 years ........ then might publish my journals ........

Go on Dait, Rogue Nation will provide two bottles of Gordi's private stash of Pulteney whisky (I had to look it up!)
and a single box of Cuban cigars.

Just a couple of paragraphs of your personal perception of Fidel's time on earth...?

Tempting offer ..... but alas ..... one that must decline ......  and wrong part of world ...... spent an spend most my time in asia ..... my journals cover events / people in s.e asia .......  china ...... an japan ........ 


*nicks whisky an cigars ...... does a runner ....... *

For those wanting the truth about Castro here is a good article to read 
http://www.faithwire.com/2016/11/28/here...tro-today/