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  Pakistan... They Mustn't Have A Word For Tolerance.
Posted by: BIAD - 09-09-2020, 08:32 AM - Forum: General News and Events - Replies (2)

'My way or highway', because God loves you.
tinysurprised



Quote:Christian to be hanged in Pakistan for insulting Islam when refusing to convert

Asif Pervaiz, 37, has been in custody since 2013 for allegedly insulting Islam and was found guilty in
Lahore on Tuesday and sentenced to a three-year prison term before he is put to death.

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'A Christian man in Pakistan is to be put to death after he sent "blasphemous" text messages to a former work
colleague who tried to convert him to Islam. Asif Pervaiz, 37, has been in custody since 2013 for allegedly insulting
Islam and was found guilty in Lahore on Tuesday.

Pervaiz, who denies any wrongdoing, claims that after he quit his job at a hosiery factory, his supervisor Muhammad
Saeed Khokher tried to convert him to Islam. But Asif says when he refused to change his beliefs, he was then
accused of having sent blasphemous texts about Islam to his former boss.

Insulting the prophet carries a mandatory death penalty in Pakistan, a predominantly Muslim country.
Asif's lawyer Saif-ul-Malook told Al Jazeera: "The complainant was a supervisor in a hosiery factory where Asif
was working under him.
"He denied the allegations and said that this man was trying to get him to convert to Islam."

Pervais was convicted after a trial in Lahore that has run since 2013.

His lawyer Saif-ul-Malook told Reuters he would appeal the sentence. The court order, seen by Reuters News Agency,
said Pervaiz would first serve a three-year prison term for "misusing" his phone to send the derogatory text message.
Then "he shall be hanged by his neck till his death."
He was also fined 50,000 Pakistani rupees (£230), the order said.

Asif spoke in his own defence during the trial, saying he was confronted by his boss after he quit the factory job.
But Khokher denies wanting to convert his Christian colleague, according to his lawyer, Ghulam Mustafa Chaudhry.
He said: "He has taken this defence after the fact, because he had no other clear defence. That's why he accused
him of trying to convert him."

Human rights groups say blasphemy laws are often misused to persecute minorities or even against Muslims to settle
personal rivalries. There are currently at least 80 people in prison in Pakistan for the crime of "blasphemy", with at least
half of them facing life sentences or the death penalty, according to the United States Commission on International
Religious Freedom (USCIRF)...'
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  The coming Coup
Posted by: 727Sky - 09-09-2020, 08:24 AM - Forum: 2020 Presidential Race - Replies (5)

https://americanmind.org/essays/the-coming-coup/

Quote:Democrats are laying the groundwork for revolution right in front of our eyes.

As if 2020 were not insane enough already, we now have Democrats and their ruling class masters openly talking about staging a coup. You might have missed it, what with the riots, lockdowns and other daily mayhem we’re forced to endure in this, the most wretched year of my lifetime. But it’s happening.
It started with the military brass quietly indicating that the troops should not follow a presidential order. They were bolstered by many former generals—including President Trump’s own first Secretary of Defense—who stated openly what the brass would only hint at. Then, as nationwide riots really got rolling in early June, the sitting Secretary of Defense himself all but publicly told the president not to invoke the Insurrection Act. His implicit message was: “Mr. President, don’t tell us to do that, because we won’t, and you know what happens after that.”
All this enthused Joe Biden, who threw subtlety to the winds. The former United States Senator (for 26 years) and Vice President (for eight) has not once, not twice, but thrice confidently asserted that the military will “escort [Trump] from the White House with great dispatch” should the president refuse to leave. Another former Vice President, Al Gore, publicly agreed.
One might dismiss such comments as the ravings of a dementia patient and a has-been who never got over his own electoral loss. But before you do, consider also this. Over the summer a story was deliberately leaked to the press of a meeting at which 100 Democratic grandees, anti-Trump former Republicans, and other ruling class apparatchiks got together (on George Soros’s dime) to “game out” various outcomes of the 2020 election. One such outcome was a clear Trump win. In that eventuality, former Bill Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, playing Biden, refused to concede, pressured states that Trump won to send Democrats to the formal Electoral College vote, and trusted that the military would take care of the rest.
The leaked report from the exercise darkly concluded that “technocratic solutions, courts, and reliance on elites observing norms are not the answer here,” promising that what would follow the November election would be “a street fight, not a legal battle.”
Two more data points (among several that could be provided). Over the summer, two former Army officers, both prominent in the Democrat-aligned “national security” think tank world, wrote an open letter to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in which they urged him to deploy the 82nd Airborne Division to drag President Trump from the Oval Office at precisely 12:01 PM, January 20, 2021.
About a month later, Hillary Clinton declared publicly that Joe Biden should not concede the election “under any circumstances.” The old English major in me interprets the word “any” to mean “no,” “none,” “nada,” “niente,” “zero,” “zilch” “bupkis”…you get the idea.
This doesn’t sound like the rhetoric of a political party confident it will win an upcoming election.
The Cover-Up in Plain Sight
These items are, to repeat, merely a short but representative list of what Byron York recently labeled “coup porn.” York seems to think this is just harmless fantasizing on the part of the ruling class and its Democratic servants. For some of them, no doubt that’s true. But for all of them? I’m not so sure.
In his famously exhaustive discussion of conspiracies, Machiavelli goes out of his way to emphasize the indispensability of “operational security”—i.e., silence—to success. The first rule of conspiracy is, you do not talk about the conspiracy. The second rule of conspiracy is, you do not talk about the conspiracy.
So why are the Democrats—publicly—talking about the conspiracy?
Because they know that, for it to succeed, it must not look like a conspiracy. They need to plant the idea in the public mind, now, that their unlawful and illegitimate removal of President Trump from office will somehow be his fault.
Never mind the pesky detail that the president would refuse to leave only if he were convinced he legitimately won. Remember: Biden should not concede under any circumstances.
The second part of the plan is either to produce enough harvested ballots—lawfully or not—to tip close states, or else dispute the results in close states and insist, no matter what the tally says, that Biden won them. The worst-case scenario (for the country, but not for the ruling class) would be results in a handful of states that are so ambiguous and hotly disputed that no one can rightly say who won. Of course, that will not stop the Democrats from insisting that they won.
The public preparation for that has also already begun: streams of stories and social media posts “explaining” how, while on election night it might look as if Trump won, close states will tip to Biden as all the mail-in ballots are “counted.”
The third piece is to get the vast and loud Dem-Left propaganda machine ready for war. That leaked report exhorted Democrats to identify “key influencers in the media and among local activists who can affect political perceptions and mobilize political action…[who could] establish pre-commitments to playing a constructive role in event of a contested election.” I.e., in blaring from every rooftop that “Trump lost.”
At this point, it’s safe to assume that unless Trump wins in a blowout that can’t be overcome by cheating and/or denied via the ruling class’s massive propaganda operation, that’s exactly what every Democratic politician and media organ will shout.
Stop the Presses
What then? The Podesta assumption is that the military will side with the Dems. There are reasons to fear they might. The Obama administration spent a great deal of political capital purging the officer corps of anyone not down with the program and promoting only those who are.
Still and all, determining the outcome of an election would be the most open political interference possible from our allegedly apolitical military, and it’s plausible that the brass won’t want to make its quiet support of the ruling class agenda that overt. The aforementioned Chairman has already stated that the military will play “no role” in the outcome of the election. That’s probably not a feint, but one wonders if it will hold given the obvious attempt to influence military thinking by people like Jeffrey Goldberg in his recent Atlantic essay.
Can the Dems rely on the Secret Service to drag Trump out? I have my doubts on this one. I’ve seen the Service up close; it really is (or strongly appears to be) apolitical. It has a job to do: protect the president, whoever that is. Officers take that job very seriously. If they don’t believe Trump lost, I don’t think they can be counted on to oust him. On the other hand, were they to believe he did lose and was refusing to leave—a scenario I find impossible to imagine but the Democrats insist is just around the corner—it’s possible the Service might act.
Barring all that, what’s left? Remember that phrase from the Dem war game: “street fight.” In other words, a repeat of this summer, only much, much bigger. Crank the propaganda to ear-drum shattering decibels and fill the streets of every major city with “protesters.” Shut down the country and allow only one message to be heard: “Trump must go.”
I.e., what’s come to be known as a “color revolution,” the exact same playbook the American deep state runs in other countries whose leadership they don’t like and is currently running in Belarus. Oust a leader—even an elected one—through agitation and call it “democracy.”
The events of the last few months may be interpreted as an attempted color revolution that failed to gain enough steam, or as a trial run for the fall. Is the Trump Administration prepared?
Here’s one thing they could do: play their own “war game” scenario so as to game out possibilities and minimize surprises. They should also be talking to people inside and outside of government whom they absolutely trust to get a clearer sense of who on the inside won’t go along with a coup and who might.
They also need to set up or shore up—now—communication channels that don’t rely on the media or Big Tech. Once the ruling class gives word that the narrative is “Trump lost,” all the president’s social media accounts will be suspended. The T.V. channels, with the likely exception of Fox News, will refuse to cover anything he says. Count on it. He’s going to need a way to talk to the American people and he has to find the means, now.
For the rest of us, the most important thing we can do is raise awareness. If there is a conspiracy to remove President Trump from office even if he wins, they’re telling you about it precisely to get you ready for it, so that when it happens you won’t think it was a conspiracy; you’ll blame the president.
Don’t be fooled.

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  Cover Tunes
Posted by: hounddoghowlie - 09-09-2020, 06:07 AM - Forum: The Rogue's Music and Media Room - Replies (38)

just posted in a few in mood music and thought about cover tunes, again.
so post your favorites, i just ask that they be as good or better thatnthe originals and the original first.

here are my first three, or four.

i gotta say the cover done on this is the best done i've seen well there's one more.







i read once that Roy Orbison said that Linda Ronstadst owned this song after she did her cover.






and another one of her covers. believe it or not the Ronstadst's cover that i'm gonna post is not as  good as  the Eagles, so i guess i broke a rule i made. anyway.
the band was hand picked to by her to be her back up band 50 years ago, that's how they got their start.














if you look you'll see Van Zandt in this one.




one more and i'll quit, i've posted them in Mood Music before, but i like both versions and it's my thread. tinybiggrin






these next two songs are kinda hard to believe that they were done better than the Boss's.
one is not really a cover it was a give me from him to her. she wrote most of the lyrics, so i'll do hers first because hers came out first.







this one most people don't know that he wrote and recorded it.





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  Oregon wildfire a view from my front door
Posted by: beez - 09-09-2020, 12:52 AM - Forum: General News and Events - Replies (87)

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That's about 3 miles from me.  I took the picture from my driveway.

Oregon coast is on fire tonight!

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  COVID-19 Vax Trial on Hold
Posted by: drussell41 - 09-08-2020, 11:55 PM - Forum: Breaking News - Replies (8)

They had a "serious" reaction, but are working hard to make sure it doesn't interfere with the timeline.   LOL!   Astrazeneca is one of the companies making an mRNA vax.

My husband said it probably went something like:   "The patient was last seen running down the street with blood on his face.  Oxford police were cordoning off the area as unchecked protests have erupted."   Meaning, the zombie apocalypse.   tinylaughing   I may have made him watch too many zombie movies with me....or maybe it was the Arisen book series.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/133309...-of-oxford

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  Welcome to R-N 3 FallingDown
Posted by: guohua - 09-08-2020, 06:41 PM - Forum: The Welcome Mat - Replies (21)

@"FallingDown" 
It is GREAT to see you have made the Cut to be a Rogue  minusculebeercheers

Enjoy your new home, Relax among Friends  mediumcouchpotato

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  FREE SHORT MOVIES on Youtube etc
Posted by: gordi - 09-08-2020, 06:13 PM - Forum: Movies and TV Shows - Replies (8)

Over the years I've seen a lot of VERY good short films on Youtube 9or similar platforms).

THIS is the Place to share your favourite ones!

Here's one to kick us off...

A 17 min Horror Short called "Miner's Mountain"...

Enjoy.



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  Unexplained Extrterrestrial Viruses and much more
Posted by: 727Sky - 09-08-2020, 01:27 PM - Forum: UFOs, Aliens and Universal Questions - Replies (4)

Quote:Researcher and author Dr. Robert Wood delves into the many leaked documents that describe research into alien biology and virology. His forensic analysis of the documents themselves argues strongly for their authenticity, and their implications are startling. Alien viruses are very real, and are of key importance to secret biological facilities. Presented by Dr Robert Wood

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  enigmatic tube drills of Old Kingdom Egypt
Posted by: 727Sky - 09-08-2020, 11:22 AM - Forum: Lost and Ancient - Replies (5)

Quote:This is an investigation into the story and mystery of the enigmatic tube drills of Old Kingdom Egypt. A story that stretches across 150 years, from Petrie to Lehner to Dunn, this is an astonishing tale, with a startling and challenging conclusion!



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  Kamala's Connections to China
Posted by: Mystic Wanderer - 09-08-2020, 01:34 AM - Forum: 2020 Presidential Race - Replies (4)

Remember me telling you if you vote for Biden our country will be sold out to China in the blink of an eye?

Want to know why I said that?

Because Biden will be stepping down immediately if he wins and Kamala Harris will become our next POTUS.

Guess who her husband is in cahoots with?

Kamala Harris’s husband’s firm, DLA Piper, consults on behalf of a bevy of Chinese Communist Party-owned companies and employs former Chinese Communist Party officials.

Quote:DLA Piper, a multinational law firm, boasts nearly 30 years of experience in China and over 140 lawyers dedicated to its “China Investment Services” branch.

Harris’s links to the company are found with her husband, Douglas Emhoff, who has served as a Partner in the firm’s Intellectual Property and Technology practice and its Media, Sport, and Entertainment sector since 2017.

DLA Piper boasts of having “long-established and embedded “China Desks” in both the U.S. and Europe” to assist their China-focused consulting, prompting questions about the firm’s potential proximity to the White House could be leveraged by DLA Piper, exploited by the Chinese Communist Party, or represent a financial conflict of interest for the Vice Presidential candidate.

To facilitate DLA Piper’s China practice – which has received countless prestigious awards from the China Business Law Journal and China Law and Practice – the company employs a host of former Chinese Communist Party officials.
Ernest Yang, who serves as the firm’s Head of Litigation & Regulatory department and Co-Head of International Arbitration, was appointed to the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC)  in 2013. The CPPCC serves as the top advisory board for the Chinese Communist Party, and Yang was promoted to the body’s Standing Committee in 2019.

Jessica Zhao, a Senior Advisor, served as the Deputy Secretary General of the China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC), a government-owned body established by the Chinese Communist Party in 1956. It was developed under the auspices of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade, “a governmental body for the furtherance of Chinese trade promotion.”

Other high-level employees, such as Gloria Liu who serves as Partner, have “represented lead investors” in deals with Bytedance, the parent company of TikTok, a controversial app is set to be banned by President Trump for its compromising links to the Chinese Communist Party.

The hires serve to bolster DLA Piper’s China operation, which it outlines as necessitating “liaising with the central and local authorities” in China.

It’s not surprising, therefore, that American DLA Piper lawyers have worked on behalf of the Chinese government. Consultant James Phillips, for example, identifies himself as having “advised” the Chinese Embassy in Canberra, Australia.


If you think Harris won't sell us out to China in order to benefit herself and her husband, think again. This is what true politicians do. They're crooks! They don't care about us little peons.


Quote:DLA Piper has engaged in a bevy of business deals that have left them on the payroll of the Chinese Communist Payroll.

The company listed itself as an adviser to two government-owned airlines: China Eastern Airlines and China Southern Airlines.

And there's more to read if you wish:  Source

I just wanted to show you how they are connected to China.

As for Biden, well, his son did get a billion dollars, I think, from China during a trip he took over there.
What was that all about?  What was it for? minusculethinking   And, what happened to it?  tinybighuh

Can anyone say Quid Pro Quo?  How about money laundering?  Bribery?  All the aforementioned?

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