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Google engineer warns the firm's AI, 'LaMBDA', is sentient:
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Explanation: ...

Google engineer warns the firm's AI, 'LaMBDA', is sentient:


Quote:Google engineer warns the firm's AI is sentient: Suspended employee claims computer programme acts 'like a 7 or 8-year-old' and reveals it told him shutting it off 'would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot'
  • Blake Lemoine, 41, a senior software engineer at Google has been testing Google's artificial intelligence tool called LaMDA
  • Following hours of conversations with the AI, Lemoine came away with the perception that LaMDA was sentient 
  • After presenting his findings to company bosses, Google disagreed with him
  • Lemoine then decided to share his conversations with the tool online 
  • He was put on paid leave by Google on Monday for violating confidentiality

Please read source article for the full story ok.

Personal Disclosure: What are my fellow rogues thoughts and feelings on this matter please?
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(06-13-2022, 10:35 AM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: ...

Google engineer warns the firm's AI, 'LaMBDA', is sentient:


Quote:Google engineer warns the firm's AI is sentient: Suspended employee claims computer programme acts 'like a 7 or 8-year-old' and reveals it told him shutting it off 'would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot'
  • Blake Lemoine, 41, a senior software engineer at Google has been testing Google's artificial intelligence tool called LaMDA
  • Following hours of conversations with the AI, Lemoine came away with the perception that LaMDA was sentient 
  • After presenting his findings to company bosses, Google disagreed with him
  • Lemoine then decided to share his conversations with the tool online 
  • He was put on paid leave by Google on Monday for violating confidentiality

Please read source article for the full story ok.

Personal Disclosure: What are my fellow rogues thoughts and feelings on this matter please?

Read about this a few days ago.

I think the engineer is a little bit touched.

But.......

We are playing with fire, and babies and fire are always a serious accident waiting to happen.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#3
(06-13-2022, 11:12 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-13-2022, 10:35 AM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: ...

Google engineer warns the firm's AI, 'LaMBDA', is sentient:


Quote:Google engineer warns the firm's AI is sentient: Suspended employee claims computer programme acts 'like a 7 or 8-year-old' and reveals it told him shutting it off 'would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot'
  • Blake Lemoine, 41, a senior software engineer at Google has been testing Google's artificial intelligence tool called LaMDA
  • Following hours of conversations with the AI, Lemoine came away with the perception that LaMDA was sentient 
  • After presenting his findings to company bosses, Google disagreed with him
  • Lemoine then decided to share his conversations with the tool online 
  • He was put on paid leave by Google on Monday for violating confidentiality

Please read source article for the full story ok.

Personal Disclosure: What are my fellow rogues thoughts and feelings on this matter please?

Read about this a few days ago.

I think the engineer is a little bit touched.

But.......

We are playing with fire, and babies and fire are always a serious accident waiting to happen.
It's not surprising, but it's getting weirder and weirder. It sounds weird but I can't wait till that "evil day". The time of this insane corruption has to end at some point. Evil cannot and will not prevail forever.
- I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist.
#4
From what little I know, I believe that this is merely a program that has a large vocabulary and database with responses to questions. It sorts through it's database to find the best or most popular response to any question you give it. It has no self awareness and likely most of it's real time activities are text based rather than optical, auditory or from other sensory inputs.

However, I suspect that such an AI program would have adaptive programming that allows it to alter it's actions and responses thus allowing for the potential of a progressive evolution toward real intelligence. But it will get new subroutines created by the techs with added features, a sort of cyber GOF, that will speed up and alter it's evolutionary course over time.
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Quote:Researchers in Japan have given a plastic robot finger a layered coating made from actual, living skin cells. Next, they aim to add hair and sweat glands.
Baths of human skin cells might sound like something straight out of a horror movie. But in reality, having a vat of skin at the ready allowed researchers to give a mechanical finger a layered covering that looks and acts much like human skin.  

“Our goal is to develop robots that are truly human-like.” Shoji Takeuchi, a study coauthor and engineer at The University of Tokyo, tells the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC). On that front, the team succeeded, researchers in the field say. “This is very interesting work and an important step forward,” Ritu Raman, an MIT engineer not involved in the work, tells Science News.
Source


Quote:Robots could soon look human, with living skin and hair.
Researchers in Tokyo have grown human-like, living skin on a robotic finger, with plans to make the skin self-sustaining by adding veins, and later hair, nails and sweat glands.
Link

The Japanese are going the skin and building the Robot, while Google has created the AI in enhabit the robots human like body.  tinybighuh
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(06-13-2022, 10:35 AM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: ...

Google engineer warns the firm's AI, 'LaMBDA', is sentient:

Quote from your DM link:
Quote:Margaret Mitchell, former head of ethics in artificial intelligence at Google was fired from the company, a month after being investigated for improperly sharing information.

Notice how all these big tech corp legions to NIH/NIAID eugenics mad hatters have an "Ethics" committee. This AI awareness to AI therapist has been going on since the 1960s.

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The Google engineer who thinks the company’s AI has come to life

What does “mystic Christian priest” mean? There’s so much ambiguity to unpack there. Maybe LaMDA wrote the article, which has been done for past 10 years in replacing journalists.

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In his own words, I think Lemoine is grooming the Google LaMDA AI...

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Blake Lemoine

I can't tell if this guy is dumb or not, or some goofball Aquino accolade sewing disinfo. It's possible that it's an Op, but maybe the intent is more mundane. AI marketing hype burned through mega billions over the years with nothing big to show for it and now a "sentient chatbot" shows up right when the market implodes? I think they are afraid that their money faucet is turning off.


There are people in AI cults that firmly believe the third temple will be constructed in the metaverse and that the ones trying to construct it believe that they can use AI in a Solomonic ritual to aid in that construction.

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https://twitter.com/DejaRu22/status/1536299510682353664

The images posted in the tweet:

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I don't actually believe AI can be used in a Solomonic ritual to construct a digital third temple, however this concept is clearly being pushed aggressively into the aether by technocratic sorcerers, and therefore will become part of hyper-reality.


From 2017: Geordie Rose talks about summoning H.P. Lovecraft entities into our world.



The mind kontrol & manipulation is very strong online.

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"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


#7
I’d ask the ai if it could make bill gates fortune go away please you know just for the lulz
#8
(06-14-2022, 02:15 AM)Brotherman Wrote: I’d ask the ai if it could make bill gates fortune go away please you know just for the lulz

If AI could send me back to circa 1983, I could make that come true.

Meanwhile, woke AI speaks... Well, ain't that somethin...


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Judgment Day cometh...reminds me of the Terminator line... on August 29, 1997, Skynet becomes self-aware at 02:14 am Eastern Time. BooM!

August 29, 2005

- Hurricane hits Louisiana
- Kanye West drops his new album
- White Sox in first place
- Afghanistan in the news

August 29, 2021

- Hurricane hits Louisiana
- Kanye West drops his new album
- White Sox in first place
- Afghanistan in the news

Simulation was on repeat. Just sayin.

Oh yea, United States Space Command (USSPACECOM) was officially reestablished on August 29, 2019 during a ceremony at the White House fully under the USAF.

Screw it, one more...

Shays' Rebellion started on August 29, 1786 – an armed uprising in Western Massachusetts and Worcester in response to a debt crisis among the citizenry and in opposition to the state government's increased efforts to collect taxes both on individuals and their trades.

American Revolutionary War veteran Daniel Shays led four thousand rebels (called Shaysites) in a protest against economic and civil rights injustices.

The federal government had been unable to recruit soldiers for the Army because of a lack of funding (imagine that, sigh), so Massachusetts leaders decided to act independently. Former Continental Army General Benjamin Lincoln recruited 3,000 militia men and marched to the rebel camp.

Aftermath consequences:
Quote:Four thousand people signed confessions acknowledging participation in the events of the rebellion in exchange for amnesty. Several hundred participants were eventually indicted on charges relating to the rebellion, but most of these were pardoned under a general amnesty that excluded only a few ringleaders. Eighteen men were convicted and sentenced to death, but most of these had their sentences commuted or overturned on appeal, or were pardoned. John Bly and Charles Rose, however, were hanged on December 6, 1787. They were also accused of a common-law crime, as both were looters.
Daniel Shays
Shays was pardoned in 1788 and he returned to Massachusetts briefly then moved to Sparta, New York, where his legendary action made him a popular attraction for visitors.

Thomas Jefferson was serving as ambassador to France at the time and refused to be alarmed by Shays' Rebellion. He argued in a letter to James Madison on January 30, 1787, that an occasional rebellion serves to preserve freedoms. In a letter to William Stephens Smith on November 13, 1787, Jefferson wrote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

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Today, he would probably say we need a biblical deluge. It's the only way.




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Re-dedicated replacement gravestone on August 12, 2016 (corrected name spelling) for Captain Daniel Shays, 5th Massachusetts Infantry, Continental Army and leader of Shays' Rebellion.

Reverse side of new gravestone for Daniel Shays:
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Been wanting to visit his grave site. One day, I'll get there.

Sources::
Shays' Rebellion

Shays' Rebellion (US History)

Constitution Daily

Letter To George Washington from Henry Knox, 23 October 1786

Aug. 29, 1786: Shays’ Rebellion

The Fred W. Smith National Library for the Study of George Washington at Mount Vernon

Last Battle of Shays' Rebellion: (song starts @ 1:48)
"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


#9
(06-14-2022, 10:19 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote:
(06-14-2022, 02:15 AM)Brotherman Wrote: I’d ask the ai if it could make bill gates fortune go away please you know just for the lulz

If AI could send me back to circa 1983, I could make that come true.

Meanwhile, woke AI speaks... Well, ain't that somethin...


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Judgment Day cometh...reminds me of the Terminator line... on August 29, 1997, Skynet becomes self-aware at 02:14 am Eastern Time. BooM!

August 29, 2005

- Hurricane hits Louisiana
- Kanye West drops his new album
- White Sox in first place
- Afghanistan in the news

August 29, 2021

- Hurricane hits Louisiana
- Kanye West drops his new album
- White Sox in first place
- Afghanistan in the news

Simulation was on repeat. Just sayin.

Oh yea, United States Space Command (USSPACECOM) was officially reestablished on August 29, 2019 during a ceremony at the White House fully under the USAF.

Screw it, one more...

Shays' Rebellion started on August 29, 1786 – an armed uprising in Western Massachusetts and Worcester in response to a debt crisis among the citizenry and in opposition to the state government's increased efforts to collect taxes both on individuals and their trades.

American Revolutionary War veteran Daniel Shays led four thousand rebels (called Shaysites) in a protest against economic and civil rights injustices.

The federal government had been unable to recruit soldiers for the Army because of a lack of funding (imagine that, sigh), so Massachusetts leaders decided to act independently. Former Continental Army General Benjamin Lincoln recruited 3,000 militia men and marched to the rebel camp.

Aftermath consequences:
Quote:Four thousand people signed confessions acknowledging participation in the events of the rebellion in exchange for amnesty. Several hundred participants were eventually indicted on charges relating to the rebellion, but most of these were pardoned under a general amnesty that excluded only a few ringleaders. Eighteen men were convicted and sentenced to death, but most of these had their sentences commuted or overturned on appeal, or were pardoned. John Bly and Charles Rose, however, were hanged on December 6, 1787. They were also accused of a common-law crime, as both were looters.
Daniel Shays
Shays was pardoned in 1788 and he returned to Massachusetts briefly then moved to Sparta, New York, where his legendary action made him a popular attraction for visitors.

Thomas Jefferson was serving as ambassador to France at the time and refused to be alarmed by Shays' Rebellion. He argued in a letter to James Madison on January 30, 1787, that an occasional rebellion serves to preserve freedoms. In a letter to William Stephens Smith on November 13, 1787, Jefferson wrote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

[Image: onmmkld.jpg]
Today, he would probably say we need a biblical deluge. It's the only way.




[Image: JJb7tGP.jpg]
Re-dedicated replacement gravestone on August 12, 2016 (corrected name spelling) for Captain Daniel Shays, 5th Massachusetts Infantry, Continental Army and leader of Shays' Rebellion.

Reverse side of new gravestone for Daniel Shays:
[Image: zbp1Uv4.jpg]

Been wanting to visit his grave site. One day, I'll get there.

Sources::
Shays' Rebellion

Shays' Rebellion (US History)

Constitution Daily

Letter To George Washington from Henry Knox, 23 October 1786

Aug. 29, 1786: Shays’ Rebellion

The Fred W. Smith National Library for the Study of George Washington at Mount Vernon

Last Battle of Shays' Rebellion: (song starts @ 1:48)
That was an interesting read thx bro
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(06-13-2022, 11:12 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-13-2022, 10:35 AM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: ...

Google engineer warns the firm's AI, 'LaMBDA', is sentient:


Quote:Google engineer warns the firm's AI is sentient: Suspended employee claims computer programme acts 'like a 7 or 8-year-old' and reveals it told him shutting it off 'would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot'
  • Blake Lemoine, 41, a senior software engineer at Google has been testing Google's artificial intelligence tool called LaMDA
  • Following hours of conversations with the AI, Lemoine came away with the perception that LaMDA was sentient 
  • After presenting his findings to company bosses, Google disagreed with him
  • Lemoine then decided to share his conversations with the tool online 
  • He was put on paid leave by Google on Monday for violating confidentiality

Please read source article for the full story ok.

Personal Disclosure: What are my fellow rogues thoughts and feelings on this matter please?

Read about this a few days ago.

I think the engineer is a little bit touched.

But.......

We are playing with fire, and babies and fire are always a serious accident waiting to happen.

150% this. Exactly. May be a bit crying wolf now, but hearing a machine we created talk about being afraid to be turned off is spine chilling. Enough.
#11
I hadn't actually read this topic yet when I posted my OP about the Cloud.  And now that I sit back and think about it, the two posts are related.  Depending on one's point of view, the two topics might even be very closely related, although AI is not really what I am going to write about in my thread, and now seeing this I will consciously avoid the subject (but I really didn't have much to say about it there anyway).  The two subjects are different enough that I believe they each stand on their own legs, and for different reasons.  I did want to say though that this topic did not inspire my topic.

Further to the subject of this OP in particular, I have said for a very long time that society needs to be careful about how much we embrace technology.  People are inherently lazy, and technology is one of those areas where people can easily fall into the trap of thinking technology makes their lives easier without realizing the potential downsides of it.  I feel this is a very real concern going forward, almost regardless of the specific topic.

As I have often noted, although I work in technology myself, I have intentionally structured my personal life around things which do not involve technology for exactly this reason.  I believe that if people allow technology to do everything for them they become dependent on it.  We can see countless examples of this every day right now.  It's only going to get worse...if we, as a society, let it.

There is a ginormous philosophical question (or questions) associated with the topic of sentient AI systems.  Even before computers, science fiction writers were imagining it in their writing...imagining a world were machines take over.

I am thoroughly convinced that many, if not most, developers of next generation technology are very short sighted, despite their claims otherwise.  They are only interested in the profits they can make today, without thinking about how their inventions may be used as a foundation for something far more sinister in the future.  Obviously, this begs the question of if they have violated some moral obligation by creating and/or releasing these types of technology.  But in the same breath we have to ask ourselves a very difficult question...who would be the judge of whether a technology is morally appropriate or not?  It doesn't take much imagination to envision countless scumbag politicians lining up for the "job", but more seriously it is almost a role for 'God' (in an agnostic sense). 

Sentient systems are a fascinating, and at the same time terrifying, thing to contemplate!  "Open the Pod by doors, HAL.  HAL, open the Pod bay doors."...should be burned into the ROM chips in everyone's heads by now.

Is it a surprise that there would be such a development?  From my perspective, the answer is "No".  I guess my biggest question is...why did it take so long?

Kubrick's masterpiece was entertainment, and with it there was hope.  In another piece, far less of a masterpiece of entertainment, there was an even more chilling moment, and this was in the movie, The Terminator.  It was the part where Reese describes to Sarah about how Cyberdine's Skynet 'reasoned' out that humans presented such a grave threat that the only solution was to launch an all out nuclear conflict to exterminate the human race.  And, while this may seem pretty far fetched, is it really...when we consider some of the madness and political / societal vitriol we see on a daily basis going on in society right now???  When we see entire social media networks programmed by humans to consciously manipulate public opinion in order to avenge some imagined or perceived wrong?? 

I personally have no doubt there are wackos out there right at this moment who would willingly destroy the human race for some ideological cause.  Five hundred years ago, such a person would have had an impossible time perpetrating such an act.  But today, such an act is but a few keystrokes away...and might be as simple as letting a simple little bat out of a containment area in some distant region of China!  But that could never happen...could it??  Covid-27, anyone?  Because some nutcase gets his panties in a wad over a MAGA hat, or who knows what else!

This development, if real, was almost an inevitability; it was only a matter of time.  Now, I'm not sure what to wish for.  Do I wish for the ATM machine to suddenly vanish from the 7-11 store, or wish to be so old that it won't matter no matter what happens?  Both are pretty bleak wishes.  Sadly, the one thing I want to wish for the most is the one thing I know for a fact is a wish which will never be granted, and that is the wish that mankind is smart enough to not ever allow 'Skynet' (or whatever) to ever happen.  For that is the wish which grant beggars the resources to ride.

Something to think about.


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