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Something is cooking...
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Keeping with the current outlook on the Russian poisoning scandal and that latest reports indicate
that the front door of Sergei Skripal's house may have been the first contact, one has to wonder
why it took so long for the nerve agent to take effect.

If the theory is correct, this nerve agent is a tactile substance and even though the effects of the agent
were only apparant when Mr. Skripal and his daughter were sat or near a park bench -an area where
a Policeman coming to their aid, was also struck down, just how potent must the poison have been to
have waited four hours to activate?

The Skripal Timeline.
4th March.
09:15 GMT
Mr Skripal's car was seen in Salisbury in the area of London Road, Churchill Way North and Wilton Road.
13:30 GMT his car was seen driving down Devizes Road, towards the town centre.
13.40pm
Skripal and Yulia arrive at the Sainsbury's car park in Salisbury.
14.20pm
They go to The Mill pub, before going to the Zizzi restaurant.
15.35pm
Mr Skripal and Ms Skripal stay in the Zizzi restaurant until 3.35pm.
16.15pm
Police receive a call from a member of the public after the pair are found slumped
on a bench, close to the Sainsbury's car park.

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I understand that everywhere the Skripals travelled on that day, needs to be investigated and through that
investigation it's been deemed the original place where the nerve agent came into contact with the ex-spy
was his home's front door.

But even though degradation of the poison's potency must be assumed through time and the victim coming
into contact with other surfaces, it seems that when the nerve agent flowered into it's full efficiency, the Police
Officer who arrived during the poison's physical effects, was stricken without the need to wait that four hours.
Strange.

Quote:What are nerve agents?
They are highly toxic chemicals that prevent the nervous system from working properly, and can be fatal.
Nerve agents take different forms -including powder and gas -but they tend to be a liquid, which can seep
through the skin.

What are Novichok agents?
The name Novichok means 'newcomer' in Russian and applies to a group of advanced nerve agents
developed by the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 1980s.

One of the chemicals -called A-230 -is reportedly five to eight times more toxic than VX nerve agent,
which can kill a person within minutes. A number of variants of this chemical have been manufactured,
and one of them was reportedly approved for use by the Russian military as a chemical weapon.

Some of the agents are also reported to be 'binary weapons', meaning the nerve agent is typically stored
as two less toxic chemicals. When they are mixed together, they react to produce the more toxic agent.

What do they do to the body?
Nerve agents disrupt normal messaging from the nerves to the muscles.
This causes muscles to become paralysed and can lead to the loss of many bodily functions.
Agents will act within seconds or minutes if inhaled and slightly more slowly if exposure is the result of
skin contamination.

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SOURCE:

There seems to be an implication that these weapons hold the benefits of not only having the ability of stealth
and lethality, it's rapid in it's action. Which is contradictory to the timeline.

In the Skripal case, people who interacted in any way with the route from the car-park, the public house and
restaurant, were taken to hospital for inspection of any effects. It seems that nobody else dealt with the same
terrible conditions and the destruction of their clothes was only advised out of peripheral prevention.

But three police officers were hospitalised –two had minor injuries, while one, Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey,
who rushed to the Skripal's assistance (assuming this was in the park) was struck down enough by the agent
that concerns for his life were reported.

The puzzle in my view, is the narrative. If the highest concentration of the poison was on the park bench, then
I could perceive that someone had passed by and delivered the nerve agent. If Sergei and Yulia Skripal had
been sat on the bench and the seat had somehow been contaminated, this would make sense -although the
chances of obtaining the correct victim is fragile.

This theory would allign with the contemporary comments of prompt infection and effects from these lethal
chemicals if the park was the main scene of contamination. But if the highest concentration is on the front door
of the Skripal's home and we maintain the origanal report that the poison is a two-substance activated agent,
then it means that either:

The poison is slower than what is normally reported and through tactile content, the effects taken hold after
several hours only becomes contagious and phyisically critical in it's final stages of incapacitation.

The first phase of the assumed quick-acting poison was placed on the front door and somehow, the deliverer
of the nerve agent knew where and what the Skripals were going and doing that day. This type of assumption
-I would offer, is not very precise and regardless of the possible failure to kill the target, could also open a can
of worms for the fleeing would-be assassin in regards of innocent collateral damage.

Were these four hours needed for the means of escape...? If so, then application of the poison onto the door
must have been done during the dark hours for the sake of confusion and even then, correct contamination
cannot be guaranteed due to access from anyone delivering or visiting.

Would an ex-spy -who was used captured, traded and then settled in the country he spied for, still be monitored
by security agencies after seven years?

I'm not a chemist and my knowledge of nerve agents is worse than my skill in the kitchen!
But the facts of this case are puzzling.


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Something is cooking... - by DuckforcoveR - 02-24-2018, 05:12 PM
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RE: Something is cooking... - by Mystic Wanderer - 03-01-2018, 05:42 AM
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RE: Something is cooking... - by Mystic Wanderer - 03-08-2018, 08:12 PM
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RE: Something is cooking... - by Ninurta - 03-19-2018, 06:53 AM
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