05-22-2016, 03:01 AM
I'm sure Bayer AG/Bayer CropScience, the Scotts Company and others consider it Mana from Heaven and God Himself to see people blame Bee Colony Collapse on Wi-Fi ..especially after the European Union courts made some pretty solid connections and determinations between their products and the toxic impact on bees in particular.
Add to the fact that Wi-Fi is actually not anything like the wide spread radio pollution of other sources, with maximum range often dropping off within a few hundred yards and all trace usually off a normal scanner by 1/2 mile, after amplification is used by hardware to squeak that out. That tells me that the national and, indeed, global collapse of bee colonies are about as unrelated to Wi-Fi as it can be for a primary cause.
Why do I say that? Most of the places I went in California which had bee colonies on the property or nearby for the support of crops (brought in for the right phase, I think...but some looked much more like long term hives/boxes too) were well beyond anything like 1/2 mile to anyone who would know Wi-Fi from Hi-Fi.
Now for bees that do come within a hundred yards or less (the average useful outside range for consumer Wi-Fi and pushing the limits at that), I would be interested in seeing cold, objective and actually double blind (use two teams to achieve that) testing between bees almost bathed in Wi-Fi with a router within their space and then ones within a Faraday Cage.
I would think that would settle the whole debate and rather definitively. Bees would either display marked impact from overload of Wi-Fi people suggest they are sensitive to at almost trace levels ...or they wouldn't?
As for the chemicals...I might add these links as sources, in the order they appeared in the press.
Are Pesticides Behind Massive Bee Die-Offs? (1/10/2012)
Is Your Garden Pesticide Killing Bees? (1/17/2012)
EU food agency links pesticides to bee decline (1/18/2013)
US rejects EU claim of insecticide as prime reason for bee colony collapse (5/02/2013)
Pesticides linked to bee decline for first time in a countrywide field study (8/20/2015)
I am aware of how some US agencies would give anything for the EU to NOT have found and ruled the way they have on these issues, as the US is far deeper in bed with the companies this hurts than the EU idealist style leadership.
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Ouch... Pretty comfy with Monsanto there aren't they? ..and producer of things like Round-Up to the overusing and chemical abusing masses of Homer Simpsons (a good chemical mix in Round-Up..actually....until some ass hat uses a gallon of it across two yards to kill something insane like nats or flies that don't care either way)
Again though, when the Government is in the pocket of the companies that are killing our Keystone species, it is certainly more comfy to blame Wi-Fi, and I might even buy it ....if not for the fact we don't all live in dense cities to imagine it so easily. Bees, for the numbers that do things to make life work....don't live in cities or even very populated areas...by sheer nature of where they are deliberately guided and artificially concentrated around the nation for crop production. They also tend to like vegetation and flowers..which are an endangered species directly proportionate to the density of city.
I just wouldn't link that Wi-Fi within the city to be the factor above neonicotinoid pesticides without that blind type test with many repeats, to confirm result. IF that were to be confirmed that coldly and scientifically? I'd trash my own Wi-Fi by the following morning. No kidding on that.
Add to the fact that Wi-Fi is actually not anything like the wide spread radio pollution of other sources, with maximum range often dropping off within a few hundred yards and all trace usually off a normal scanner by 1/2 mile, after amplification is used by hardware to squeak that out. That tells me that the national and, indeed, global collapse of bee colonies are about as unrelated to Wi-Fi as it can be for a primary cause.
Why do I say that? Most of the places I went in California which had bee colonies on the property or nearby for the support of crops (brought in for the right phase, I think...but some looked much more like long term hives/boxes too) were well beyond anything like 1/2 mile to anyone who would know Wi-Fi from Hi-Fi.
Now for bees that do come within a hundred yards or less (the average useful outside range for consumer Wi-Fi and pushing the limits at that), I would be interested in seeing cold, objective and actually double blind (use two teams to achieve that) testing between bees almost bathed in Wi-Fi with a router within their space and then ones within a Faraday Cage.
I would think that would settle the whole debate and rather definitively. Bees would either display marked impact from overload of Wi-Fi people suggest they are sensitive to at almost trace levels ...or they wouldn't?
As for the chemicals...I might add these links as sources, in the order they appeared in the press.
Are Pesticides Behind Massive Bee Die-Offs? (1/10/2012)
Is Your Garden Pesticide Killing Bees? (1/17/2012)
EU food agency links pesticides to bee decline (1/18/2013)
US rejects EU claim of insecticide as prime reason for bee colony collapse (5/02/2013)
Pesticides linked to bee decline for first time in a countrywide field study (8/20/2015)
I am aware of how some US agencies would give anything for the EU to NOT have found and ruled the way they have on these issues, as the US is far deeper in bed with the companies this hurts than the EU idealist style leadership.
Ouch... Pretty comfy with Monsanto there aren't they? ..and producer of things like Round-Up to the overusing and chemical abusing masses of Homer Simpsons (a good chemical mix in Round-Up..actually....until some ass hat uses a gallon of it across two yards to kill something insane like nats or flies that don't care either way)
Again though, when the Government is in the pocket of the companies that are killing our Keystone species, it is certainly more comfy to blame Wi-Fi, and I might even buy it ....if not for the fact we don't all live in dense cities to imagine it so easily. Bees, for the numbers that do things to make life work....don't live in cities or even very populated areas...by sheer nature of where they are deliberately guided and artificially concentrated around the nation for crop production. They also tend to like vegetation and flowers..which are an endangered species directly proportionate to the density of city.
I just wouldn't link that Wi-Fi within the city to be the factor above neonicotinoid pesticides without that blind type test with many repeats, to confirm result. IF that were to be confirmed that coldly and scientifically? I'd trash my own Wi-Fi by the following morning. No kidding on that.