(11-20-2017, 07:55 PM)dadmansabode Wrote:(11-20-2017, 06:55 PM)Ninurta Wrote: @'dadmansabode' - A box of rocks is "evidence"
A box of rocks is evidence of matter alone, there is no DNA, there is no life
That is a very short, very "unscientific" view. A box of rocks is evidence of much more than just matter alone. It is evidence that:
1) Matter exists
2) matter can form into conglomerations we know of as "rocks"
3) Boxes exist
4) someone, or something, put rocks in a box - unless you would care to argue that rock just jump into boxes all by themselves.
5) Since boxes exist, there must have been some action that caused matter to form into boxes. Since plant fibers do not generally form cardboard or wooden boxes of their own accord, just the existence of the box alone, with or without rocks, implies that there may be an agency, perhaps an intelligent one, that goes around making boxes.
6) Some of those boxes may have been intended to hold rocks - or, again, that could have been purely random. That point needs further investigation, experimentation, observation, and analysis.
7) The ability to make boxes and place rocks in them implies that life may also exist. The very existence of a box of rocks implies it, and also implies that there may be an intelligence behind it. Not that it's really all that bright to go around chucking rocks into boxes, but whomever or whatever does so probably has a reason for doing it.
8) there are lots more points that can be made from a box of rocks. Use your imagination. Logic helps.
So, a mere box of rocks is evidence of much more than just matter alone - it is also evidence of life. DNA is optional.
Quote:DNA is not just matter alone .... DNA is matter plus ....inXXXXXXion ........ < come-on class, you can do it
Stephen Meyer: Darwin: A Myth for the Post-Christian Mind ...
Darwin's doubt about his own theory
the Cambrian explosion
The Origins of Information: Exploring and Explaining Biological Information
.... In the 21st century, the information age has finally come to biology. We now know that biology at its root is comprised of information rich systems, such as the complex digital code encoded in DNA. Groundbreaking discoveries of the past decade are revealing the information bearing properties of biological systems .... Philosopher of science Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is examining and explaining the amazing depth of digital technology found in each and every living cell, such as nested coding, digital processing, distributive retrieval and storage systems, and genomic operating systems ...... Meyer is developing a more fundamental argument for intelligent design that is based not on a single feature like the bacterial flagellum, but rather on a pervasive feature of all living systems. Alongside matter and energy, Dr. Meyer shows that there is a third fundamental entity in the universe needed for life: information .... darwinsdoubt.com
The mystery of the missing fossils
political correctness in the American University
1953 .... the structure of the DNA Molecule
1957 .... breaking the code of life ..... s e q u e n c e 100100101101001010101
code (a symbol convention) instruction / conveying functional information to the cell
the Cambrian explosion ... new code and instruction
random changes degrade function rather than enhance function
10,000 different way to arrange the digits for the bike lock .... but only one arrangement will open it
An Intelligent cause
DNA, just as computer code comes from a programmer
Conclusion = the theory for Intelligent Design is indeed scientific
Huh?
Have you got any thoughts of your own in the matter? If you can't explain your links in your own words, I must conclude that you don't understand them yourself. Parrots can be trained to spit out disjointed links. I'd like to hear your own thoughts.
P.S. - DNA is not digital. Digital systems are binary, composed of just two distinct states "off" and "on", "1" or "0", in an astonishingly complex variety. DNA is composed of 4 bases, twice as many as digital information, and is capable of conveying much more complex information.
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’