This stuff sucks ass... But i appreciate you for raising awareness.
You have given me the impression of being (self?) educated and also armed with a sense of humor due to username.
Is there hope? Is there any fucking hope? Anywhere?
Never mind me. I am trash. But i refuse to accept a reality where i need to tell my friend's daughter, who just had her 8th birthday, how it once was... 10 years from now. Maybe she can't remember very well... And i have to tell her... and her dad and mama also has to tell her. Yes, they will tell her at school.
That ...once upon a time... you could walk in public without a mask... go to grocery store without using hand sanitizer... It is going to break my rotten heart i KNOW it!
"Man is fully responsible for his nature and his choices."
This stuff sucks ass... But i appreciate you for raising awareness.
You have given me the impression of being (self?) educated and also armed with a sense of humor due to username.
Is there hope? Is there any fucking hope? Anywhere?
Never mind me. I am trash. But i refuse to accept a reality where i need to tell my friend's daughter, who just had her 8th birthday, how it once was... 10 years from now. Maybe she can't remember very well... And i have to tell her... and her dad and mama also has to tell her. Yes, they will tell her at school.
That ...once upon a time... you could walk in public without a mask... go to grocery store without using hand sanitizer... It is going to break my rotten heart i KNOW it!
I did have a grammar school education, back in the good old days. My Dad also brought me up to question everything. I remember him yelling at the newsreaders on TV. Lol.
Like you, I'm worried for our relatives children, (luckily we don't have any of our own)
the (projected) future is looking grim for sure, but I see signs that the normies are starting to wake up. People are questioning the narrative.
I've also never seen so many anti-government protests worldwide as there are now. If I was one of the elite I'd be worried, I don't think it will take much more to spark a revolution. Look at what happened to Mussolini and Ciaicescou, for example.
This stuff sucks ass... But i appreciate you for raising awareness.
You have given me the impression of being (self?) educated and also armed with a sense of humor due to username.
Is there hope? Is there any fucking hope? Anywhere?
Never mind me. I am trash. But i refuse to accept a reality where i need to tell my friend's daughter, who just had her 8th birthday, how it once was... 10 years from now. Maybe she can't remember very well... And i have to tell her... and her dad and mama also has to tell her. Yes, they will tell her at school.
That ...once upon a time... you could walk in public without a mask... go to grocery store without using hand sanitizer... It is going to break my rotten heart i KNOW it!
I did have a grammar school education, back in the good old days. My Dad also brought me up to question everything. I remember him yelling at the newsreaders on TV. Lol.
Like you, I'm worried for our relatives children, (luckily we don't have any of our own)
the (projected) future is looking grim for sure, but I see signs that the normies are starting to wake up. People are questioning the narrative.
I've also never seen so many anti-government protests worldwide as there are now. If I was one of the elite I'd be worried, I don't think it will take much more to spark a revolution. Look at what happened to Mussolini and Ciaicescou, for example.
I grew up in the time when your parents told you, "Question everything", especially if it came off the "Boob Tube".
And your grandparent's constant reminder, "Don't trust the government ". So it is no surprise we are a skeptical lot.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
12-04-2020, 06:43 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2020, 06:45 PM by BIAD.)
I asked Boy In A Dress the posed-question and he said he wouldn't have to because he's a celebrity here
on Rogue Nation! Of course, I laughed until...
Quote:'Letting their mates in quarantine-free': Backlash after Grant Shapps announces 'high-value' business travellers returning to England will be EXEMPT from self-isolation rules from Saturday
*Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has announced an easing of quarantine rules
*'High-value' business travellers returning to England will not have to self-isolate
*Exemption from quarantine applies even if they come back from 'red list' country
*Sports stars and performing arts professionals will also be given a free pass
'Ministers were accused of letting their 'mates' off quarantine today after 'high-value' business travellers
were handed an exemption from self-isolation rules.
Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said executives returning to England from 4am on Saturday will not have
to go into quarantine even if they have come back from a country on the Government's 'red list'.
He insisted the move will allow 'more travel to support the economy and jobs' and will be subject to strict criteria.
Transport Secretary Grant Shapps
He also announced that 'certain performing arts professionals, TV production staff, journalists and recently
signed elite sportspersons' will also be exempt from self-isolation from this weekend.
However, the shift drew a furious response from Labour, with Mr Shapps' shadow Jim McMahon saying:
'One rule for those they consider ''high-value'' and another for everybody else.'
Labour MP Ben Bradshaw tweeted: 'Is this a joke? What Is high value?
'So the Government lets its rich mates in quarantine-free, while the rest of us trying to see our loved ones for
Christmas have to quarantine for 5 days & then pay £150 for a test.'
Mr Shapps revealed the overhaul last night, saying: 'From 4am on Sat 5th Dec high-value business travellers will
no longer need to self-isolate when returning to ENGLAND from a country NOT in a travel corridor, allowing more
travel to support the economy and jobs. Conditions apply.'
He added: 'From 4am on Sat 5th Dec certain performing arts professionals, TV production staff, journalists,
and recently signed elite sportspersons will also be exempt, subject to specific criteria being met
– guidance will be available on soon.'
According to the Department for Transport, people will have to 'meet a set of required criteria' in order to be
awarded the business exemption. The rules will apply to 'individuals undertaking specific business activity which
would deliver a significant benefit to the UK economy – including activity that creates or preserves 50+ UK jobs'.
The guidance stressed that individuals 'will only be exempt when undertaking the specific business activity and will
only be able to meet with others as required by that specific activity'.
More detailed information on the rules is expected to be published by the Government when they come into effect.
The Department said the exemption for performing arts professionals and sports stars would help to ensure 'that
industries which require specific, high talent individuals who rely on international connections can continue to
complete their work'.
'PHE [Public Health England] do not anticipate these changes will raise the risk of domestic transmission,
due to the protocols being put in place around these exemptions, however all exemptions will remain under
review,' the department added.
'All travellers, including those from exempt destinations, will still be required to show a complete passenger
locator form on arrival into the UK unless they fall into a small group of exemptions.'
The announcement is a welcome boost to the aviation industry and business community.
The move by Mr Shapps could further open up crucial travel links between the UK and the US which have been
on life support for months. The Government continues to use its 'travel corridors' scheme to decide which countries
have to be subject to self-isolation requirements...'
Then how did Farage and a bunch of Journalists get back to the UK after the US election?!!
It's a big club and you're not in it!
Quote:'..Travel from a 'safe' country on the corridor list is quarantine-free but travel from a country which is not on the list
requires people to self-isolate for 14 days. However, the self-isolation period is set to be reduced as ministers roll
out a long awaited 'test and release' system from December 15.
That will enable travellers arriving in England to end their quarantine period with a negative coronavirus test after
five days in self-isolation...'
12-04-2020, 07:24 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2020, 07:30 PM by Ninurta.)
My mask is a military gas mask. I was told I couldn't wear it, because it has exhaust valves. So it went like this:
Me: "Of course it has exhaust valves. If it didn't, the breath from my exhalation would blow it off my face, break the seal, and the covid would get in and kill me deader that the two brain cells you have left."
Dumbass: "But the masks aren't to keep you from catching it, they're to keep you from giving the virus to others."
Me again: "Aiight pinhead. Stay with me here a minute. Stop talking, and start thinking. Just a little bit. It's probably gonna hurt at first, but you'll get used to it if you stick with it - that thinking thing, I mean. Now, if this mask stays sealed, and the filters in it filter out all the particulates and such, and if the exhaust valves keep me from blowing it off my face and breaking that seal, then the covid can't get in, and so I can't catch it. If I don't catch it, how in the hell am I supposed to be distributing it through my exhaust valves? If it ain't IN me, how does it manage to get OUT of me, where it ain't to begin with? Think on that just a second - and I'll know if you start thinking, 'cause I'll be able to see the blood coming out of your ears, dumbass."
Dumbass again: * no response, Just blinking owl eyes *
I don't wear a mask for the most part, as I am exempt from them by executive order of the Governor. Some places, it's just less hassle to mask up than it is to produce the executive order and wait for them to read it. I avoid them when I can, and mask up on the few times I can't. In addition to my exemption, in this state it is illegal to wear a mask while carrying a gun, and has been since the says of the bank robbers, for obvious reasons.
And I carry a gun nearly everywhere, so no masking for me.
And then a non-thinking dumbass occasionally comes along.
.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
(12-04-2020, 07:24 PM)Ninurta Wrote: In addition to my exemption, in this state it is illegal to wear a mask while carrying a gun, and has been since the says of the bank robbers, for obvious reasons.
And I carry a gun nearly everywhere, so no masking for me.
And then a non-thinking dumbass occasionally comes along.
.
@"Ninurta", seems a lot of people who carry didn't get that memo.
12-04-2020, 09:24 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2020, 09:24 PM by NightskyeB4Dawn.)
(12-04-2020, 06:43 PM)BIAD Wrote: I asked Boy In A Dress the posed-question and he said he wouldn't have to because he's a celebrity here
on Rogue Nation! Of course, I laughed until...
Quote:'Letting their mates in quarantine-free': Backlash after Grant Shapps announces 'high-value' business travellers returning to England will be EXEMPT from self-isolation rules from Saturday
*Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has announced an easing of quarantine rules
*'High-value' business travellers returning to England will not have to self-isolate
*Exemption from quarantine applies even if they come back from 'red list' country
*Sports stars and performing arts professionals will also be given a free pass
'Ministers were accused of letting their 'mates' off quarantine today after 'high-value' business travellers
were handed an exemption from self-isolation rules.
Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said executives returning to England from 4am on Saturday will not have
to go into quarantine even if they have come back from a country on the Government's 'red list'.
He insisted the move will allow 'more travel to support the economy and jobs' and will be subject to strict criteria.
Transport Secretary Grant Shapps
He also announced that 'certain performing arts professionals, TV production staff, journalists and recently
signed elite sportspersons' will also be exempt from self-isolation from this weekend.
However, the shift drew a furious response from Labour, with Mr Shapps' shadow Jim McMahon saying:
'One rule for those they consider ''high-value'' and another for everybody else.'
Labour MP Ben Bradshaw tweeted: 'Is this a joke? What Is high value?
'So the Government lets its rich mates in quarantine-free, while the rest of us trying to see our loved ones for
Christmas have to quarantine for 5 days & then pay £150 for a test.'
Mr Shapps revealed the overhaul last night, saying: 'From 4am on Sat 5th Dec high-value business travellers will
no longer need to self-isolate when returning to ENGLAND from a country NOT in a travel corridor, allowing more
travel to support the economy and jobs. Conditions apply.'
He added: 'From 4am on Sat 5th Dec certain performing arts professionals, TV production staff, journalists,
and recently signed elite sportspersons will also be exempt, subject to specific criteria being met
– guidance will be available on soon.'
According to the Department for Transport, people will have to 'meet a set of required criteria' in order to be
awarded the business exemption. The rules will apply to 'individuals undertaking specific business activity which
would deliver a significant benefit to the UK economy – including activity that creates or preserves 50+ UK jobs'.
The guidance stressed that individuals 'will only be exempt when undertaking the specific business activity and will
only be able to meet with others as required by that specific activity'.
More detailed information on the rules is expected to be published by the Government when they come into effect.
The Department said the exemption for performing arts professionals and sports stars would help to ensure 'that
industries which require specific, high talent individuals who rely on international connections can continue to
complete their work'.
'PHE [Public Health England] do not anticipate these changes will raise the risk of domestic transmission,
due to the protocols being put in place around these exemptions, however all exemptions will remain under
review,' the department added.
'All travellers, including those from exempt destinations, will still be required to show a complete passenger
locator form on arrival into the UK unless they fall into a small group of exemptions.'
The announcement is a welcome boost to the aviation industry and business community.
The move by Mr Shapps could further open up crucial travel links between the UK and the US which have been
on life support for months. The Government continues to use its 'travel corridors' scheme to decide which countries
have to be subject to self-isolation requirements...'
Then how did Farage and a bunch of Journalists get back to the UK after the US election?!!
It's a big club and you're not in it!
Quote:'..Travel from a 'safe' country on the corridor list is quarantine-free but travel from a country which is not on the list
requires people to self-isolate for 14 days. However, the self-isolation period is set to be reduced as ministers roll
out a long awaited 'test and release' system from December 15.
That will enable travellers arriving in England to end their quarantine period with a negative coronavirus test after
five days in self-isolation...'
It was never about lung-butter, it's about control.
It has always been about control. I think most of us have been aware of this from the beginning.
Unfortunately, too many people have children and families they have to care for today. They have no desire to fight for a tomorrow or future they may never see.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not.
(12-04-2020, 07:24 PM)Ninurta Wrote: My mask is a military gas mask. I was told I couldn't wear it, because it has exhaust valves. So it went like this:
Me: "Of course it has exhaust valves. If it didn't, the breath from my exhalation would blow it off my face, break the seal, and the covid would get in and kill me deader that the two brain cells you have left."
Dumbass: "But the masks aren't to keep you from catching it, they're to keep you from giving the virus to others."
Me again: "Aiight pinhead. Stay with me here a minute. Stop talking, and start thinking. Just a little bit. It's probably gonna hurt at first, but you'll get used to it if you stick with it - that thinking thing, I mean. Now, if this mask stays sealed, and the filters in it filter out all the particulates and such, and if the exhaust valves keep me from blowing it off my face and breaking that seal, then the covid can't get in, and so I can't catch it. If I don't catch it, how in the hell am I supposed to be distributing it through my exhaust valves? If it ain't IN me, how does it manage to get OUT of me, where it ain't to begin with? Think on that just a second - and I'll know if you start thinking, 'cause I'll be able to see the blood coming out of your ears, dumbass."
Dumbass again: * no response, Just blinking owl eyes *
I don't wear a mask for the most part, as I am exempt from them by executive order of the Governor. Some places, it's just less hassle to mask up than it is to produce the executive order and wait for them to read it. I avoid them when I can, and mask up on the few times I can't. In addition to my exemption, in this state it is illegal to wear a mask while carrying a gun, and has been since the says of the bank robbers, for obvious reasons.
And I carry a gun nearly everywhere, so no masking for me.
And then a non-thinking dumbass occasionally comes along.
So how are those civility courses you signed-up for online, going?
Its not sure yet what vaccine will be used in Finland, so I will wait and see, since I belong to a high risk group it might be wise for me to take it. If I had the chose I would take the Russian one.
But if they start using the same one as in England I think I will say no
(12-04-2020, 07:24 PM)Ninurta Wrote: In addition to my exemption, in this state it is illegal to wear a mask while carrying a gun, and has been since the says of the bank robbers, for obvious reasons.
And I carry a gun nearly everywhere, so no masking for me.
And then a non-thinking dumbass occasionally comes along.
.
@"Ninurta", seems a lot of people who carry didn't get that memo.
May not be illegal there, but it is here... but a lot of folks don't know it, and so are subject to be picked up and incarcerated, because "ignorance of the law is no excuse".
I wonder at times if that isn't the very reason for it, and the reason they are not advertising it...
.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
12-04-2020, 10:34 PM (This post was last modified: 12-04-2020, 10:37 PM by Ninurta.)
(12-04-2020, 09:55 PM)BIAD Wrote: So how are those civility courses you signed-up for online, going?
Very well, and thanks for asking! They are nudging me into a more creative space to exercise my incivility, and forcing me to become more creative with it!
.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
(12-04-2020, 09:55 PM)BIAD Wrote: So how are those civility courses you signed-up for online, going?
Very well, and thanks for asking! They are nudging me into a more creative space to exercise my incivility, and forcing me to become more creative with it!
12-05-2020, 03:12 AM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2020, 04:53 AM by NightskyeB4Dawn.
Edit Reason: Mobile screwed up format.
)
This may be where it starts, but I guarantee it will not be where it ends.
Quote:During an interview with CNBC, former Maryland Representative John Delaney suggested giving $1,500 for getting immunized.
“The faster we get 75 percent of this country vaccinated, the faster we end Covid and the sooner everything returns to normal,” Delaney said in an interview with CNBC.com.
Survey data shows a growing political divide about whether or not to take the vaccine, and Delaney told CNBC.com there has to be an incentive for “people to really accelerate their thinking about taking the vaccine.”
Delaney pointed out that while his plan would not force anyone to get vaccinated, there are already measures in the U.S. to encourage vaccination, including for children to attend school.
While his proposal seems enticing, it faces some big hurdles.
Sending people $1,500 checks in exchange for vaccination could cost upward of $380 billion. By comparison, the round of stimulus checks sent to Americans earlier this year totaled more than $270 billion so far.
Isn't it sad that the amount of mistrust generated by the sinister political groups and their c*ck-sucking media
is enough to -not only have a swathe of the global public doubt health-concerns that are hammered through the
resources available to them, but also:
Take the piss out of their fear-porn and scoff at their scare-tactics of the unwanted control.
This is a battle they've lost.
I think the elites are about to find out that the proles aren't as servile and complacent as they thought they were.
To be honest, I was amazed that they weren't being strung up from lamposts back when we had the bank bailouts, but I think this latest scheme will be their undoing.
(12-05-2020, 01:40 PM)WonderCow Wrote: I think the elites are about to find out that the proles aren't as servile and complacent as they thought they were.
To be honest, I was amazed that they weren't being strung up from lamposts back when we had the bank bailouts, but I think this latest scheme will be their undoing.
You can't fool all the people all the time.
It may simply be that due to Rope-manufacturing companies being closed, this happened yet!!!
(12-05-2020, 03:12 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: This may be where it starts, but I guarantee it will not be where it ends.
Quote:During an interview with CNBC, former Maryland Representative John Delaney suggested giving $1,500 for getting immunized.
“The faster we get 75 percent of this country vaccinated, the faster we end Covid and the sooner everything returns to normal,” Delaney said in an interview with CNBC.com.
Survey data shows a growing political divide about whether or not to take the vaccine, and Delaney told CNBC.com there has to be an incentive for “people to really accelerate their thinking about taking the vaccine.”
Delaney pointed out that while his plan would not force anyone to get vaccinated, there are already measures in the U.S. to encourage vaccination, including for children to attend school.
While his proposal seems enticing, it faces some big hurdles.
Sending people $1,500 checks in exchange for vaccination could cost upward of $380 billion. By comparison, the round of stimulus checks sent to Americans earlier this year totaled more than $270 billion so far.
Typical thoughts of the "elite", thinking money will buy anything.
Don't know about the rest of you, but my life is worth a whole lot more than what they could ever pay me. I'm not some item they can buy to use in their experiments. And that's exactly what this vaccine is.
(12-05-2020, 03:12 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: This may be where it starts, but I guarantee it will not be where it ends.
Quote:During an interview with CNBC, former Maryland Representative John Delaney suggested giving $1,500 for getting immunized.
“The faster we get 75 percent of this country vaccinated, the faster we end Covid and the sooner everything returns to normal,” Delaney said in an interview with CNBC.com.
Survey data shows a growing political divide about whether or not to take the vaccine, and Delaney told CNBC.com there has to be an incentive for “people to really accelerate their thinking about taking the vaccine.”
Delaney pointed out that while his plan would not force anyone to get vaccinated, there are already measures in the U.S. to encourage vaccination, including for children to attend school.
While his proposal seems enticing, it faces some big hurdles.
Sending people $1,500 checks in exchange for vaccination could cost upward of $380 billion. By comparison, the round of stimulus checks sent to Americans earlier this year totaled more than $270 billion so far.
