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Something is cooking...
A participant at the Amesbury Baptist Church afternoon Fete on the day Charlie Rowley
and his female friend took ill, is interviewed and gives his impression of 'the older man'
-Charlie Rowley who was with Sam Hobson acquiring food.

Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(07-19-2018, 07:34 PM)guohua Wrote: @"BIAD"  
Quote:I'm waiting for the 'TRUMP DID IT! -headline!

They'll Blame Trump, Yes They have To.

Here's a diluted radio-show conversation about the Skripal incident and sure enough...
at 13.30 minutes into the show, there's a comment about someone suggesting Trump
did it!!

But ex-BBC Reporter Tony Gosling does offer some 'behind-the-scenes' theories.

YouTube Link:
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Well, the people driving the narrative must've seived through the suggestions of those who find the story
ridiculous and after a vote, they've decided on the what the container of the Novichok actually is.


Quote:'The perfume bottle of Novichok was SEALED… 15 minutes after opening it, Dawn was lying unconscious
in the bath': Nerve agent survivor Charlie Rowley reveals the moment he and his partner fell ill in shocking
first interview.

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*Charlie Rowley has broken his silence over being poisoned in Salisbury on July 8
*In a candid interview victim discussed the death of his partner Dawn Sturgess
*He says he unknowingly gave Ms Sturgess the Novichok that killed her in a perfume
bottle and blames himself for her death.

'Novichok victim Charlie Rowley tonight revealed how he blames himself over girlfriend Dawn Sturgess' death
-after giving her the Novichok nerve agent that killed her as a gift.

In his first interview since he left hospital, the 45-year-old told how he gave Ms Sturgess what he believed to be
a bottle of perfume but then watched in horror as she was taken ill just 15 minutes after spraying it on her wrists.

Mr Rowley told ITV News when he came round in hospital after being exposed to the deadly Russian nerve agent,
he was so ill he didn't know who Ms Sturgess was. He revealed how he found the 'perfume', which was in a sealed
bottle, and gave it to Ms Sturgess on the morning that she collapsed.

He said: 'I had showed Dawn what I'd found. It might've been hanging around the flat for a couple of days. 
'I find things and it looked expensive. It looked expensive. Unfortunately it turned out to be… to be a bad find. 

'Within 15 minutes Dawn said she had a headache. She asked me if I had any headache tablets. I had a look
around the flat. In that time she said she felt peculiar and needed to lie down in the bath.
'At the time I thought it seemed a bit strange and I went into the bathroom and found her in the bath, fully clothed
in a very ill state.'

In the interview he tells for the first time:
*He was so ill when informed of Dawn's death that he didn't know who she was
*Fifteen minutes after spraying on the Novichok disguised as perfume, Dawn fell violently ill
*He got some on his hands, but washed it off immediately, which is why he believes he survived
*He still collapsed foaming at the mouth within hours of being exposed
*He blames himself for his partner's death 
*He can't go back home due to too many bad memories

In the candid interview he described Ms Sturgess spaying the contaminated liquid on her wrists and rubbing them
together. 'That's how she applied it and became ill. I guess how I got in contact with it is when I put the spray part
to the bottle and I ended tipping some on my hands, but I washed it off under the tap. 

'It had an oily substance and it smelled it and it didn't smell of perfume. It felt oily. I washed it off and I didn't think
anything of it. It all happened so quick.' He added he found the perfume bottle in 'Salisbury or Amesbury' and his
memory surrounding the event was vague.

Speaking for the first time since the loss of his girlfriend, he says he survived because he washed his hands after
coming into contact with the nerve agent.  'The time I touched the bottle was the same time Dawn had touched
the bottle. I had it on my hands and was fortunate enough to wash my hands.

'Unfortunately Dawn didn't. I spilled it. My hands were covered in the stuff. It was an oily substance with very little
odour. It made me think…I didn't think at the time. I just washed it off very quickly. I didn't put two and two together
at all'.
After Ms Sturgess fell ill, he dialled 999 in 'complete shock'.

'I didn't know what to do. My first reaction was maybe she's just overreacting or something. But I could tell it was
more than that. Within a minute I could tell she wasn't faking anything. She was having a proper attack of some sort.  
'I was talking to her the whole time. I couldn't get any response. She was fading so quickly. 

'It seemed like forever I was waiting for the ambulance to turn up. I felt helpless. I don't have great medical knowledge.
I was talking to the person on the phone trying to do the best I could. It was all I could do.' 

The shocking interview comes after MailOnline revealed the first images of Mr Rowley since the attack. 
Grinning and looking healthy despite a slight limp he was captured on CCTV at a shop in central Salisbury
buying lager yesterday afternoon.

Mr Rowley, 45 and his partner Dawn Sturgess collapsed within hours of each other last month after being exposed
to the same Novichok which left former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia fighting for life back in March.
They had picked up a perfume bottle containing the deadly substance that had been discarded in Salisbury.

Dawn died after rubbing the perfume on both her wrists and Charlie was in a coma but managed to pull through
and is now in sheltered accommodation. The shopkeeper, who served him, who asked not to be named, said:
'I was surprised to see him come in but physically he looked as well as can be expected.
'I asked him how he was and he said 'bad' and the said 'I just wished Dawn hadn't picked up that bottle.' ...'
MailOnline:

The rest of it is a rehash of the account above and a conversation with the shopkeeper.

But there's a question and answer piece listed on the Mail website that makes me falter.
In Wallfire's Craig Murray link, I read the comments that are listed at the bottom of each page.
Some would fixate on a part of the account and ask curious questions about and maybe it might seem odd.

But the real odd part is some of those tiny queries are answered in the ITV questioniare that have no real
relevance in the overall incident. I'll list them in my next post (they're on the linked page)... but it's something
I find strange.


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Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Ok I need some help here. English is not my main language, but in my time in England ( granted it was a long time ago) I never heard the word "tipping" used when describing spilling something onto hands. Yes I have heard it used in, "could you tip some water on to my hand" but I never heard it used by a person who spilled something on to there own hands.  Strange use of words, but I could be wrong. 
Quote:In the candid interview he described Ms Sturgess spaying the contaminated liquid on her wrists and rubbing them

together. 'That's how she applied it and became ill. I guess how I got in contact with it is when I put the spray part
to the bottle and I ended tipping some on my hands, but I washed it off under the tap. 
(07-25-2018, 11:02 AM)Wallfire Wrote: Ok I need some help here. English is not my main language, but in my time in England ( granted it was a long time ago) I never heard the word "tipping" used when describing spilling something onto hands. Yes I have heard it used in, "could you tip some water on to my hand" but I never heard it used by a person who spilled something on to there own hands.  Strange use of words, but I could be wrong...

You're not wrong Wallfire, to 'tip' a substance onto one's hand is to indicate a deliberate act.
To 'spill' is to do so unintentionally or accidentally.

A pump-dispenser is used to draw a gel or a viscous substance and can be found for lotion products.
These products usually have their dispenser separated from the container and purchaser attaches them
for use. It's not attached due to the chance of leakage during transport.

A perfume dispenser is an atomiser that converts a liquid into a fine spray. A standard aerosol works in
this manner and a cap is present to protect the device.

What Charlie Rowley was dealing with is still unclear. All we know is it was a well-known brand that smelled
of ammonia and by washing any 'spillage' of with water, it assures the Novichok effects won't come into play
for a few more hours.
(Never mind the confusion of it being a sealed packet that the container was in!)
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Charlie Rowley's full interview with ITV News.

ITV- Wind the clock back to the day that Dawn fell ill and you subsequently fell ill.
What happened that day?

Rowley- I remember waking up that morning. Seeing Dawn…

ITV- You’d been out the night before…and been in the park all day.

Rowley-We’d been out the night before. It was a very nice day. We came back that evening. Had a few drinks.
I say woke up the next morning. Everything was fine, normal. Dawn was talking about finishing dying her hair,
because she’d been dying her hair down by the river the day before.
At some stage, I remember finding a box with a perfume product in.

ITV- Tell me about the box…what was in it?

Rowley- It was a cardboard box which contained a glass bottle, which was a perfume type thing, with a plastic
dispenser lid that you had to assemble.

ITV- So it was a bottle of perfume…had it been open?

Rowley- It wasn’t no. It was all sealed. It was all new. I believe I might have had it for a couple of days.
It wasn’t until that morning I showed it to her and gave it to Dawn and showed it to her and she recognised
the bottle and product as a known brand and I thought I was doing nothing more of it than giving her a gift.  

ITV- So that’s what you were doing, you were giving her a gift. You think you had it for a couple of days
but you’re not sure?

Rowley- I believe so. We were in Salisbury the night before. Everything is a little bit vague.
Where I found it. I believe it may have been in the Salisbury area or possibly Amesbury.
I’m not sure.It was a cosmetic bottle.

ITV- I imagine the police have asked you quite a lot about where you found it.
Have they tracked your steps those few days?

Rowley- They’ve not said any more than what I’ve been able to tell them really.

ITV- Some people have said you have a habit of getting stuff out of skips?

Rowley- I have had a tendency for picking things up, yeh.
You find things of value, yes, some treasures here or there.

ITV- Do you think this perfume bottle may have been part of it?

Rowley- It may have been. It may have been on the side of a path. It would be wrong of me to say I found it in a
place and not be sure.

ITV- You lived in Amesbury and you hung out in Salisbury quite a lot so it could have been anywhere?

Rowley- Yes, exactly.

ITV- So you give Dawn the gift…she’s getting ready. What happened?

Rowley- We sat down. Letting the day begin. We hadn’t been up long. I had showed Dawn what I’d found.
It might’ve been hanging around the flat for a couple of days. I realised…I still have it and I approached
Dawn with it and show her and she recognised the brand.  

ITV- What was her reaction? Was she pleased? Inquisitive?

Rowley- [Takes a sharp breath]. Yeah..at the time it was…I find things and it looked expensive.
It looked expensive. Unfortunately it turned out to be…to be a bad find.

ITV- You weren’t to know that… How long after you gave it to he did she use it?

Rowley- Within 15 mins Dawn said she had a headache. She asked me if I had any headache tablets.
I had a look around the flat. In that time she said she felt peculiar and needed to lie down in the bath.
At the time I thought it seemed a bit strange and I went into the bathroom and found her in the bath,
fully clothed, in a very ill state.

ITV- In a bad way?

Rowley- Very bad. Yes.

ITV- Did you see her spray it?

Rowley- I do have a memory of her spraying it on her wrists and rubbing them together. I guess that’s
how she applied it and become ill. I guess how I got in contact with it is when I put the spray part to the
bottle and I ended tipping some on my hands, but I washed it off under the tap.

It had an oily substance and it smelled it and it didn’t smell of perfum.
It felt oily. I washed it off and I didn’t think anything of it. It all happened so quick.

ITV- You came into contact with what many believe is one of the most dangerous substances on the
planet… A chemical weapon. You had it in your flat. When I say that, what goes through your head?

Rowley- It’s hard for me to comprehend. It’s hard for me to say more.   

ITV- Does it seem unreal?

Rowley- Very surreal.

ITV- You called for an ambulance for Dawn?

Rowley- Yeah, I was in complete shock. I didn’t know what to do.
My first reaction was maybe she’s just overreacting or something. But I could tell it was more than that.
Within a minute I could tell she wasn’t faking anything. She was having a proper attack of some sort.

ITV- Did she respond to you at all?

Rowley- No, I was talking to her the whole time. I couldn’t get any response. She was fading so quickly.

ITV- You called for help?

Rowley- Of course. I phoned 999. It was horrible waiting for the ambulance because it was a brand
new build. It seemed like forever I was waiting for the ambulance to turn up. I felt helpless.
I don’t have great medical knowledge. I was talking to the person on the phone trying to do the best
I could. It was all I could do.

ITV- When the Paramedics arrived, did they have any idea of what they were treating?

Rowley- I thought it might have been something to do with… she had complained of a headache and
she asked for paracetamol and I thought maybe she had taken her own medication that she had at
the time. I thought at the time maybe it was a reaction to the medication she had taken.

ITV- She was taken to hospital…you planned to visit in a few hours…talk me through what happened
in terms of what happened in terms of…you didn’t touch the perfume bottle
you didn’t think that was the source of the problem?

Rowley- In my mind, no. No.  

ITV- You went off and picked up your stuff. Came back to the flat. What point did you pick up the bottle?

Rowley- I hadn’t. The time I touched the bottle was the same time Dawn had touched the bottle.
I had it on my hands and was fortunate enough to wash my hands.

Unfortunately Dawn didn’t. I spilled it. My hands were covered in the stuff. It was an oily substance
with very little odour. It made me think…I didn’t think at the time.

I just washed it off very quickly. I didn’t put two and two together at all. When the police came round...
when I came round weeks after, and the police mentioned a bottle they’d found in the flat, they run
tests on it and I can pretty much guarantee that the contents in the bottle was perfume and it was
nothing to worry about and they run tests on it and I was in complete shock when they told me it
was Novichok.

ITV- You’re in hospital…they tell you it was Novichok…what did you think?

Rowley- It was all too much to take on board. Too much. I was told too much all at once.
It was too much to take on board.

ITV- There aren’t many people in the world who have been in your position..?
What does it make you think?

Rowley- Very little. My heart goes out to the family and loved ones on Dawn’s side.
It’s very hard to process…the whole lot.

ITV- Do you remember falling ill? Do doctors think because you washed your hands, you saved yourself?

Rowley- I don’t know. I don’t know. I must’ve slowed down the process considerably by hours.
It still got into my blood system. It affected me in quite a way.

I don’t remember much to be honest. All I know is what my friend told me who I was with.
Apparently I was stumbling and foaming at the mouth and acting very peculiar and he called the
ambulance and before I knew it…I have no recollection.
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I find this image very odd. Mr. Rowley was recovering in a 'safe house' and only a day after the
interview above was published, he visits the off-licence (liquor store) that he regularly frequents.
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The substance was 'oily', it was an unopened box and it had a spray dispenser.
If it was unopened, then the contents of the container inside cannot be the same weapon used
on the Skripals, can it?
We need Mr. Guohua on this one again!


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Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
The more I read about this the more it reminds me of a bad movie
(07-29-2018, 04:00 PM)Wallfire Wrote: The more I read about this the more it reminds me of a bad movie

We both agree with you @"Wallfire" 

They have not told the whole story and if he knows, he is not allowed to tell.

Actually, they (the investigative branch) has not divulge the Truth!
There is much more to this Drama than being told.
He found or stole that box of perfume, so, with that kept inmind, that Nerve Agent was intended for him or her.
If, his story is the truth.
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
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(07-29-2018, 06:38 PM)guohua Wrote: ...They have not told the whole story and if he knows, he is not allowed to tell.

Actually, they (the investigative branch) has not divulge the Truth!
There is much more to this Drama than being told.
He found or stole that box of perfume, so, with that kept inmind, that Nerve Agent was intended for him or her.
If, his story is the truth.

The whole story hasn't been put to script yet, that's why!!

Quote:Mercedes with Romanian number plates was seen near poisoned Russian spy Sergei Skripal
several times before Novichok nerve agent attack.

*Police are scouring CCTV footage from a garage in Salisbury where car was seen
*Resident claims it was seen four times in the week before Skripals were poisoned
*One of the four occupants of the dark-coloured car was a woman, witness said

'A Mercedes with Romanian number plates was seen near former spy Sergei Skripal's home several times
in the week before he was poisoned with a nerve agent, it has emerged.
According to witnesses, one of the four occupants of the dark-coloured car was a woman. 

Police hunting the would-be assassins who poisoned Mr Skripal and his daughter Yulia in March have been
scouring CCTV footage from a Shell garage in Salisbury where the Mercedes was seen.

As it emerged the huge investigation –codenamed Operation Fairline –has already cost £7.5 million, the
detective leading the hunt faced questions about the sightings at a public meeting. 
But Detective Chief Superintendent Kath Barnes said: 'I can't comment on any individual report like that.'

A woman told the meeting that the Mercedes was seen 'four times in one week prior to the week it
[the Skripals attack] happened'. She added: 'One time was in the Wilton Road garage.
The car had Romanian number plates and there were four people in the car. There's CCTV.
He paid by credit card.

'They were seen four times around Salisbury early morning, like 6.30 in the morning, also late at night between
11 and 12... you wonder whether they were doing some kind of reconnaissance.
'An Eastern European car, travelling with four people, at that time, on several occasions, close to where the Skripals
live, is surely relevant.'

Det Chief Supt Barnes said: 'When we catch the people responsible and get them into court and the evidence is
being heard, that's when the full story will emerge. I do not want to jeopardise any opportunity of that end result.'

Police believe the Novichok nerve agent was smeared on the door handle of Mr Skripal's home over the weekend
of March 3 and 4. Mr Skripal, 66, and Yulia, 33, are recovering at a secret location.

The meeting was held in Amesbury where Charlie Rowley, 45, and Dawn Sturgess, 44, were struck down last month
after finding and opening a branded, sealed perfume bottle containing Novichok.
Miss Sturgess, whose funeral will be held in Salisbury tomorrow, suffered a fatal dose after spraying herself with the
'oily' substance...'
SOURCE:

I agree with Guohua, this unopened perfume box was probably 'acquired' by questionable means and the 'innocent victim' card
becomes sullied. I suspect Rowley will fade away from this tale and another sinister 'baddie' will be brought onto the stage.
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
The Novichok debacle seems to have quietened down for now and after Ms. Sturgess' funeral and
Charlie Rowley's visit to the booze-store, there's only this reference to it.

Quote:Wiltshire’s Air Ambulance is grounded as its base is tested for Novichok amid fears
of ‘onward contamination’ by workers who took victim Dawn Sturgess to hospital.

'Wiltshire's Air Ambulance is to be grounded and the station closed while specialist teams scour all
equipment and vehicles for traces of the deadly nerve agent Novichok.

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All emergency kit, clothing and vehicles, including the life-saving helicopters, will be tested for
contamination which police said was a highly precautionary response in the wake of the poisonings
of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess.

It is not known how long the air ambulance will be out of service but officers reassured residents that
rapid response cars, which are fitted out with the same medical equipment will be available.

A spokesman for Wiltshire Police said: 'As part of the ongoing operation into the Amesbury poisoning,
specialist teams will now undertake precautionary testing of the Wiltshire Air Ambulance station,
emergency vehicles and kit worn by responders involved in the initial response to Charlie Rowley
and Dawn Sturgess.

'The highly precautionary process, is designed to ensure that no onward contamination has taken place.
The risk of this is assessed as low, however it is essential that no chances are taken and this is why the
work is taking place.

'To ensure that the specialist sampling teams are able to complete their work unimpeded, the Air Ambulance
base, located in Semington, will close temporarily from 5pm today. 
'During the course of the work, the Air Ambulance will also be subject of precautionary sampling and will be
unable to fly...'
SOURCE:

There's more of the bullsh*t here, but what the article is suggesting that since the 30th June when the two
drug-and-drink abusers came down with the alleged nerve agent poisoning, this helicopter -that now is said
to have flown Dawn Sturgess to Salisbury hospital and not the ambulance that Charlie Rowley and Sam
Hobson reported, has been sitting on it's heli-pad possibly contaminated with Novichok.

A whole month it's been waiting to be processed, even though the imaginative evidence from the Rowley
and Sturgess incident implied that after four months, the chemical is still deadly!

They're gonna need a better script-writer... Arnie's "GET TO THE CHOPPA" is far-too obvious!


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Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Quote:Novichok cops remove bins in probe breakthrough after speaking to Charlie Rowley.

Police investigating the Salisbury Novichok poisoning have removed two bins from
behind a cordoned off shop after speaking to nerve agent vicim Charlie Rowley.

'Scotland Yard’s counter-terror detectives have discovered new information about the poisoning
of Rowley and his girlfriend Dawn Sturgess at the end of June. 

Two bins located in a sealed-off area behind shops in Catherine Street, Salisbury –near where the
couple were poisoned –have been seized by police and taken away for analysis.

The bins were removed at around 11am this morning and will be taken to a military laboratory in
Porton Down to be analysed by chemical experts.
Officers swooped on the bins after speaking with Rowley, who was recently released from hospital
weeks after he collapsed at his home in Amesbury, Wilts...'

Swooped. F*ckin' swooped! I wouldn't have the kahunas to write such a stupid sentence!
I'm sure -as this image shows, it was more effective to stand guard over the poentially-deadly poison
-dispensing trash bins than just take them away.

Quote:'...Detectives believe Charlie and Dawn were exposed to the Novichok after picking up a perfume bottle
containing the deadly nerve agent somewhere in Salisbury. Public Health England (PHE) has reassured
the public that the risk from contamination remains low.

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In a statement, the Metropolitan Police said: "Officers from the Counter Terrorism Policing Network are
continuing to speak to Charlie Rowley about his recollections prior to him falling ill...'

That's if they catch him coming out of the liquor store.

Quote:'..."As a result of this, specialists began removing two bins from a cordoned-off area behind shops in
Catherine Street, Salisbury, at approximately 11.00am this morning, Thursday, 2 August...'

The Police woman is the same one from the post of Wallfire provided from the Daily Mail article dated
5th July. This means the same newspaper is stating it's taken a month for the 'experts' to decided to take
the receptacles.

Quote:'...The new development comes as the Wiltshire Air Ambulance service revealed vehicles and kit used in the
response to the Novichok incident would be tested. 

"The highly precautionary process, is designed to ensure that no onward contamination has taken place," a
Wiltshire Police spokesman said. "The risk of this is assessed as low, however it is essential that no chances
are taken and this is why the work is taking place."

Police searches are ongoing at a number of sites, including the Queen Elizabeth Gardens in Salisbury, where
Dawn and Charlie had visited prior to them falling ill.
"The bins will be taken to the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down for analysis."...'
The Daily Star:

The remainder of the article is just a re-write about the couple and Rowley's emotive comments.


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He went blind for a while -a week ago and now, Charlie Rowley faces another ailment.
Another trip to the liquor-store is out, I guess.
tinywondering

Quote:Novichok victim Charlie Rowley 'can't move his arms and legs' as he fights for life.

Salisbury Novichok survivor Charlie Rowley cannot “move his arms or his legs” as he fights for
life in hospital for a second time, his brother has said.

'Charlie, 45, was rushed to A&E last week after falling ill and going “temporarily blind” at his home
in Amesbury, Wilts. He was admitted to the intensive care unit at Salisbury District Hospital, where
he and girlfriend Dawn Sturgess were treated for nerve agent poisoning.

Novichok, the Soviet-era chemical weapon used in the attempted assassination of former Russian
spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia, has not been blamed for his illness, doctors have said.
However, his brother Matthew, 47, said his condition appears to be deteriorating after nurses told
him he could have deadly meningitis.

“I’ve just spoken to him on the phone,” Matthew told the Daily Mirror.
“He definitely sounds like he’s getting worse.
“He said he can’t move his arms or his legs and still has double vision.
“His speech is slurred, he’s feeling sick and struggling to eat. He’s in a really bad way.”

Charlie was fighting for life at the hospital alongside his girlfriend Dawn after being exposed to the lethal
nerve agent used in Skripal attack. He collapsed at his home on June 30 several hours after Dawn, leaving
them both in a critical condition.

Charlie recovered after spending more than a month in intensive care but 45-year-old partner Dawn sadly
died from poisoning. Detectives believe the deadly Novichok that struck Charlie down came from a discarded
perfume bottle he had given Dawn as a gift.
Charlie has spoke of his heartache over the tragic death of his girlfriend Dawn in “shocking” circumstances.
“It's amazing that I'm alive,” he said. “In a way I feel lucky I survived but I've also lost so much.”

Charlie and Dawn were poisoned almost four months after the Skripals fell unconscious on a park bench in Salisbury,
Wilts, on March 4. Sergei, a former Russian intelligence services agent, and Yulia were critical but eventually made a
full recovery after spending weeks in intensive care.

The US State Department explicitly blamed the nerve agent attack on the Skripals on Vladimir Putin's government.
Prime Minister Theresa May said Russia was “highly likely” behind the attack, basing her accusation on intelligence
and analysis of the poison –a nerve agent developed under the Soviet Union in the 1960s and 70s.

A blazing diplomatic row ensued between London and Moscow in the following weeks and months after the Scotland
Yard-led investigation attributed blame to Russia.

Russia has repeatedly denied any role in the attack, with Putin dismissing allegations of a Kremlin assassination
plot as “nonsense”...'
SOURCE:
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Taken from 6th September's Daily Mail.

The latest in the 'Who-Dunnit' Novichok story now revolves around two men reportedly captured on CCTV footage
at Heathrow Airport and the town centre of Salisbury. Two Russian males are seen window-browsing after
administering the deadly nerve agent by a fantastic camera and shows the deadly duo pondering on purchasing
some old coins.

There's more to come and please, stifle your laughter.
...................................

Quote:EXCLUSIVE: Chilling CCTV footage shows the novichok assassins calmly strolling through Salisbury
and window-shopping for vintage coins just moments after nerve agent attack.

*The incredible footage, exclusively obtained by MailOnline, shows the two men strolling through Salisbury
*It was taken shortly after 1pm on Sunday March 4 just minutes after the Russian spies had sprayed the
Skripals' doorknob with novichok
*Russian pair looked like they didn't have a care in the world as they wandered past Dauwalders collectables 
*Something in the shop's vintage coin display caught Alexander Petrov's eye and he stopped fellow assassin
Ruslan Boshirov

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Ruslan Boshirov and Alexander Petrov.

*The pair then spend several moments examining the shop window before appearing to try and go inside
-then realising it was closed
*This all happened just a few minutes before the pair were filmed arriving at Salisbury railway station to board
a train on their way to Heathrow Airport
(Footage available on the Daily Mail webs-page)
...............................

This is the astonishing moment the two Russian novichok assassins casually window-shopped in Salisbury just
minutes after they tried to murder former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter.

The first footage seen of the killers, obtained exclusively by MailOnline, shows the two men looking relaxed and
good-humoured as they sauntered down the street towards Salisbury station to make their getaway...'

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So it's done-and-dusted. This report confirms that Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov attempted to assassinate
the Skripals and inadvertedly Charlie Rowley and succeeded in the case of Dawn Sturgess. There's no need for a
court case, just lock 'em up 'cos they're Russian.

Quote:'...Dressed in winter clothing, Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov are seen walking past the Dauwalders collectables
and rare stamp shop before becoming distracted by the window display.
Petrov is wearing a backpack, black woolly hat and blue down coat, while Boshirov is wearing a dark bomber jacket
and a baseball cap...'

The Soviet version of a Hazmat-suit.

Quote:'...Appearing to forget about their mission, they examine the window display in detail, talking enthusiastically about the
collectors' items. They then approach the shop entrance as if to make a purchase, before realising that the shop is closed
and continued towards Salisbury railway station and make their escape...'

Heartless and ignorant of British Sunday retail opening-hours.

Quote:'...The assassins were looking at a collection of old coins in the window, the shopkeepers confirmed.
Paul Dauwalder, who owns the well-known business, said: 'They seemed quite bungling, to be honest.
The coins aren't the valuable ones, we wouldn't keep them in the window...'

Ignorant killers, heh?

Quote:'...'It's an ongoing window display that often attracts attention. There are some foreign coins, Victorian pennies, that sort of thing.
Maybe they were looking for Russian ones. 'It was a Sunday and they had just attempted a murder, but they still tried to come in
the shop. They were obviously coin fans...'

Finally, a coin-collecting witness who can testify in court that in his opinion, the two men in the unusually excellent CCTV footage from
his store... footage that far-outranks the type at Heathrow Airport, are the pair who sprayed a deadly nerve-agent onto an ex-spy's
door handle.
Way to go, Mr. Dauwalder!

Quote:'...'They might be murderers but that doesn't mean they are intellectually dead.
From the way they were behaving, they looked like coin enthusiasts or collectors.
'People often spend hours going through those boxes of coins. It's not unusual. It seems we even attract Russian murderers.'...'

Yeah, but f*ck the attempted assasination, let's hear more about the coin business Mr Dauwalder runs.

Quote:'...Dauwalders of Salisbury is a family-owned business selling rare stamps and other collectables to both retail and wholesale
customers. Set up in 1958, it is run by a father-and-son team, Paul and Chris Dauwalder. In addition to rare stamps, it offers
unusual coins, posters and philatelical accessories.

Paul's son, Chris, 28, said: 'There is no danger of contamination as they didn't come into the shop.
We have a window cleaner once a week and he's still alright, so it's probably safe.'

'They looked like ordinary guys,' Paul added. 'If it had been mid-week and we were open, they would have come into the shop
and we would have served them. 'The mind boggles. I'm just glad we were closed.' ...'

What...? No mention of opening-times, other members of the family and even a risque photograph of a sister?!

Quote:'...The exclusive footage provides an insight into the relaxed mindset of the two assassins –who the Prime Minister has said worked
for Russia's GRU military intelligence service –just minutes after they carried out attempted murder.

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While the pair window-shopped, former spy Skripal and his daughter Yulia were just hours away from becoming hospitalised, in a
chain of events that would lead to the death of drug addict Dawn Sturgess, 44, and a new low in relations between Russia and Britain.
By the following day the killers would be back in Russia while police frantically sealed off contaminated parts of Salisbury and the
manhunt began. 

It would be a further six months before their identities would finally be made public by the British authorities...'

So the British public can relax, the would-be assassins have fled and it could be suggested that it's pointless to read on.

Quote:'...It comes as Britain's security minister today said Russian President Vladimir Putin bears ultimate responsibility for the Novichok
nerve agent attack carried out in England. Britain has vowed to wreak revenge on the Russian President by ordering a covert war
as the Prime Minister accused two of his agents of carrying out the mission in March...

'Covert' means not openly acknowledged or displayed. As in -displayed in a national newspaper.

Quote:'...Security Minister Ben Wallace said today he is '100 per cent sure' the men named carried out the attack and claimed that Vladimir
Putin has ultimate responsibility for the actions of his spies -but added: 'This was more Johnny English than James Bond'.
He said: 'Ultimately he does, insofar as he is president of the Russian Federation and it is his government that controls, funds and
directs the military intelligence -that's the GRU -via his minister of defence. I don't think that anyone can ever say that Mr Putin isn't
in control of his state'.

He added: 'They [the assassins] are members of the GRU -this is not some rogue or some freelance operation.
Soldiers do as they told, they take orders. So I think it's very clear that the Russian state bears significant amounts of responsibility
for this, alongside individuals who have chosen to attack British citizens and people in this country'...'

If the above statement has any merit, Mr. Guohua could well be correct in his assumption:
"Now they are no longer Professional Spies or Assassins. They are Clumsy and Arrogant. 
Also they are Amateurs now in World of Espionage."

Quote:'...When asked how the UK would respond he refused to say, adding: 'We retaliate in our way.
We are not the Russians, we don't adopt the sort of thuggish, destructive and aggressive behaviour that we have seen.
We choose to challenge the Russians in both the overt and the covert space, within the rule of law and in a sophisticated way'.
The Security Minister also revealed how the security services know the Russian state must have helped the get to Britain
while carrying the deadly nerve agent.

The assassins were travelling on genuine Russian passports, using credible aliases and transporting novichok, which was
designed and produced by the state, in a perfume bottle with sophisticated technology to stop it leaking and a nozzle to help
them use the deadly weapon.

Theresa May will wreak revenge on Russia with cyber warfare, espionage, financial sanctions and travel bans all likely to be
used, sources said...'

Sources assure a 'wreaking of revenge' Does that sound credible to the average reader?!!

Quote:'...Interpol has been put on red alert to detain the two agents, who use the aliases Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov.

Mrs May has warned they would be brought to Britain for trial if they ever left Russia -but experts have said that Vladimir Putin
will personally ensure the assassins never leave the country and reward them with lucrative promotions despite botching their
assassination attempt on Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

However, she did acknowledge that it was futile to expect Russia to hand over the two assassins, not least because Russia
has a constitutional bar on extradition.  She savaged Moscow's response to the novichok attacks, saying requests for
co-operation had been met with 'obfuscation and lies'.

MPs were told new powers were in force to stop at the border anyone suspected of 'hostile state activity'.
Russian oligarchs linked to Mr Putin face a clampdown, including searches of private flights and investigations of 'unexplained
wealth' by the National Crime Agency.

Mrs May said retaliatory action would focus specifically against the GRU, the organisation linked to the downing of the MH17
airliner in Ukraine, attacks in Syria and election-rigging in the United States. She said it was clear the Salisbury attack was
not a rogue operation and must have been approved at a senior level of the Russian state...'

By-my-back-teeth, the Russians get around with their evil, don't they?!

Quote:'...Investigators believe they know the identities of the two military intelligence agents but chose instead to publicise aliases
used in their Russian passports.They are asking people worldwide to contact them if they can put a name to the faces.
Police obtained domestic and European arrest warrants, and lodged Interpol red notices, effectively confining the pair to
their homeland.

But the Crown Prosecution Service said it would not apply for their extradition because the Russian State refuses to deport
its citizens to face trial overseas. Both men are believed to be agents for the GRU, for whom Mr Skripal was a colonel before
being jailed for selling secrets to the West. He was brought to the UK in a spy swap.

In a bid to silence the chorus of online scepticism about the case fuelled by Russian trolls, police gave a step-by-step account
of the movements of the two-man hit squad. 

CCTV stills showed Petrov and Boshirov arriving at Gatwick Friday on March 2 on an Aeroflot flight from Moscow, before
catching a train to London Victoria. They then travelled to London Waterloo where they were seen between 6 and 7pm before
checking into the budget City Stay Hotel in Bow Road, East London.

Dressed in padded jackets, hats and carrying a rucksack, the following day the pair left their hotel at 11am and caught the tube
back to Waterloo to jump on the London to Salisbury train which arrived in the cathedral city at 2.25pm.
There they did what police believe was a reconnaissance of the Salisbury area, before catching a train back to London at
4.10pm and checking back into their Bow hotel at 8.05pm.

On the Sunday, they left their hotel at 8am, again taking the tube to Waterloo where they caught another train to Salisbury,
arriving back in the city shortly before midday. CCTV showed the two men close to the Skripals' house at 11.58am and
walking through the streets of the city between 1 and 2pm.

The men caught a train back to London around 2pm and arrived back at Waterloo at 4.45pm, then caught a tube to Heathrow
airport at 6.30pm. Little more than 48 hours after they arrived in the UK, Petrov and Boshirov caught the 10.30pm flight back
to Moscow, just over 50 hours after first touching down.

It is understood that the 250-strong team of detectives identified the two men as suspects in May while examining more than
11,000 hours of footage. They were able to painstakingly follow their steps, leading to the City Stay Hotel, in Bow, east London,
where they spent both nights.

Forensics experts discovered a minute trace of novichok in their room, a sample so small it was washed away by the testing
swab...'
SOURCE:

Damn it! That was the one clue that assured the authorities of a air-tight case against these two men, the nerve agent and with
aid from Mr. Dauwalder's unique and excellent CCTV footage, had visited Salisbury with the deadly Novichok.

The Foresic experts should've contacted CBS's NCIS first. I know it's a fictional series, but I'm sure the black-haired chick
in the dog-collar wouldn't have lost the most vital clue to ensure a positive outcome for the entertainment case.

But after the commercials, there's more. And remember... don't ask about the perfume bottle narrative, where it was
supposedly discarded, where the location was changed and how these two coin collectors terrible Russians used and
got rid of the nerve agent, that should be next.

But first, more giggly-stuff.
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The key to this comedy of errors is of course, in the writing. But it's the holder of the pen that brings the smiles -and the
skill needed to transfer thoughts into literature. You need outrage and astonishment, you need to make the reader accept
that any-old shit pumped out by the mainstream media is honest and unbiased.
Basically, you need the reader to be as bungling as the two accused Russian poisoners that like old coins.

Just a day after the Mail writes a long article that names the alleged assassins, there's a response from Russia,
a supposed official statement given to the media, a re-jigging of the prose for average public consumption and
after editing, proof-reading and printing, we have another editorial that educates the uninformed of a serious
crime.

And so, the Daily Star delivers.

Quote:Russia claims Novichok assassins are ‘two British actors named Jeffrey and Paul’

'Russia has claimed the the Novichok assassin suspects are actually two British actors named Jeffrey
and Paul in the latest bizarre twist to the Salisbury saga.

Vladimir Putin’s lawmaker Konstantin Kosachev issued a statement suggesting the two Novichok suspects –Russian agents
Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov –were “British actors” on Facebook.
And meanwhile, a Russian news website went further with the theory –claiming the CCTV stills were from a British TV show
dubbed KGB Spy. It even named them as Paul Collinson and Jeffrey Fields, claiming the show was broadcast in the early 2000s.

No such show ever existed on British TV, and the British actors’ union Equity has no trace of Fields or Collinson.
Russia’s latest bizarre claims come as Moscow is accused of “playing dice” with people’s lives in Britain during an emergency
meeting of the UN.

Kosachev, chief of Putin’s foreign policy committee, said: "The evening stops being dull for the British followers of Sherlock Holmes
"A whole day has passed since the sensational revelations but there’s not a single word that someone has recognised the two villains.

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“[It is improbable they] would exist in a vacuum to the degree that no could recognise them from the photos, given they should have
tens or hundreds or thousand of schoolmates, college-mates, fellow-workers, or simply neighbours and passers-by.
"And where’s all of that? Maybe, these are really two British actors? I looks like something went the wrong way over there in London."

Russian trolls also backed Kosachev’s actor claims – alleging they first emerged on Facebook of a man named Michael Killigan.
Killigan – of whom no trace can be found – claimed the CCTV was shot in “my TV series almost 20 years ago”.
Putin’s news trolls claimed he said: “Does MI5 read our scripts?"

They claim the man was a producer on “KGB Spy” –despite it seeming no show ever existed in the UK.
Russia and Britain’s row over the attempted murder of MI6 double agent Sergei Skripal reignited this week as police confirmed
they had found the suspects. GRU agents Petrov and Boshirov are said to have flown into the UK via Gatwick, stayed in London,
and then travelled to Salisbury with the nerve agent on March 4.

It is alleged they then daubed the toxin from a perfume bottle on the doorknob of Skripal’s home. 

Yulia and Sergei were discovered slumped on a bench in a critical condition –with the nerve agent also poisoning brave policemen
Sgt Nick Bailey, and later residents Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess.

Mum-of-three Sturgess was the one fatality of the incident which plunged relations between Britain and Russia to lows not seen since
the Cold War.  The US warned the world should be "chilled to the bone" by the developments set out in recent days.
GCHQ head Jeremy Fleming warned that Russia poses an "active" threat during a speech in Washington.

Moscow continues to deny everything, claiming the attack was staged by Britain to stoke up anti-Russia sentiment in Britain...'
The Star:

'Daubed the toxin'!!!
A person died and others were badly effected... I just don't have the words to offer to explain the above article.
Luckily, The 'Off-Guardian' can come to the rescue! This site shows you how the MSM take the piss out of the people they take monies from.
(See Below)
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Ok ok ok. 
This whole thing has become, I dont even have words to say what it has become.
The British government seems to think that the British public has an IQ of 85, the rubbish they are pumping out.
Not allowing people to carry the coffin of Sturgess because of danger of contamination ( if there was any danger the body would of been burned)
Her boy friend dies weeks later of Meningitis, "caused" by exposure to the nerve agent. ( nothing to do with his years of drink and drug taking)
Police scraping there cars in land fills
And now wonderful HQ ccty.
Russia making wild clams about who the two men are.
Two things come to my mind
1. The leaders of Europe are trying to point people away from the massive invasion of refugees, " Look bad ruskies "
2. Some third power is driving Russia and Europe to war ( China, Iran, Turkey?)
Well the Russians do have a point, the who thing does seem like an episode of the professionals, but at the rate they are going it will soon be a Dixon of dock green episode.
(Continued From Above) Edit: Apologies to Wallfire for not responding at once.

Here's an excellent alternative website that can give a reader an insight to what one particular mainstream
outlet (and sometimes others) does to propagate the established narrative.
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Quote:Skripal Case: Luke Harding’s latest work of fiction

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Luke Harding likes writing books about things that he wasn’t really involved in and doesn’t really understand.
Unfortunately for the rest of the world, that covers pretty much everything. His book about Snowden, for example,
was beautifully taken down by Julian Assange -a person who was actually there.

He’s priming the traumatised public for another of his works, this time about Sergei Skripal.
This one will probably be out by Christmas, unless he can find someone else’s work to plagiarise, in which case
he might get it done sooner.

It will have a snide and not especially clever title, perhaps a sort of pun –something like
“A Poison by Any Other Name: How Russian assassins contaminated the heart of rural England”.

It will relate, in jarring sub-sub-le Carre prose, a story of Russian malfeasance and evil beyond imagining, whilst
depicting the whole cast as bumbling caricatures, always held up for ridicule by the author and his smug readership.

There’s an extract in The Guardian today. It’s not listed as one, but trust me, it will be in the book.
It’s title, as predicted above, is sort of a pun (and will probably be a chapter heading):

"Planes, trains and fake names: the trail left by Skripal suspects"

You see? Like that film? I don’t really get it either but until someone else comes up with something clever he can copy,
Luke is left to his own rather meagre devices. It starts off surprisingly strong, waiting three whole sentences before
lurching violently into totally unsupported conjecture:

''The two men were dressed inconspicuously in jeans, fleece jackets and trainers
as they boarded the flight from Moscow to Gatwick. Their names, according to their
Russian passports, were Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov.

Both were around 40 years old. Neither looked suspicious...''

This is, as far as we know so far, true.

''...The plane trundled down the icy runway. In Moscow the temperatures had fallen
below -10C, not unusual for early March. In Britain it had been snowing...''

…and so is this. In fact, in googling “Moscow weather March 2018” Harding has displayed an uncharacteristically thorough
approach to research that was rarely (if ever) evidenced in his previous works.

''...They had also packed a bottle of what appeared to be the Nina Ricci perfume Premier Jour.
The box it came in was prettily decorated with flowers, it listed ingredients including alcohol
and it bore the words “Made in France”...''

This is where truth ends and guesses take over: there is no evidence, at all, that these two men had anything to do with
the “perfume bottle” allegedly found by Charlie Rowley on June 27th and allegedly containing a powerful nerve agent.

There is (as far as we know) no fingerprint or DNA evidence on the bottle, nobody saw them with the bottle, and there’s
no released CCTV footage of them holding or carrying the bottle.
Saying “it’s in their backpack” is meaningless without any evidence to back it up.

''....According to the Metropolitan police, the bottle in fact contained novichok, a lethal nerve agent
developed in the late Soviet Union. The bottle had been specially made to be leakproof and had
a customised applicator...''

Note he doesn’t feel the need to examine, question or even verify the words of the Metropolitan Police.
This is a recurring theme in Harding’s works – there are people who tell the truth (US) and people who lie (RUSSIANS).
Evidence is a complication you can live without.

''...Moscow’s notorious poisons factory run by the KGB made similar devices
throughout the cold war...''

Did they? Because he doesn’t show any evidence this is true.
One thing you can be sure of, if there had ever been even a whisper about a “modified perfume bottle” in any Soviet
archive or from any “whistleblower currently living in the United States”, it would be on the front page in big black letters.

''...Petrov and Boshirov were aliases, detectives believe.
Both men are suspected to be career officers with the GRU, Russia’s powerful and
highly secretive military intelligence service...''

Note use of the word “believe”, it makes regular appearances alongside it’s buddies: “suspect” and “probably”.

And yes, they “believe” they are aliases because IF they were assassins then obviously they used aliases.
There’s no evidence taken from their (currently totally theoretical) visa applications that point to forgery, nobody
at the time questioned their passports.

As of today, we have been given no reason to think they were aliases, except reasoning backwards from assumed
guilt…which isn’t how deduction works.

In fact, there’s more than enough reason to assume they aren’t aliases –Firstly, they passed the visa check, secondly
their passports were never questioned, thirdly they’ve used them before (see below), and finally…just WHY would a
Russian spy-come-assassin use a fake Russian name and a fake Russian passport? That’s ridiculous.

''...The officers’ assignment was covert.
They were coming to Britain not as tourists but as assassins...''

[citation needed]

''...Their target was Sergei Skripal, a former GRU officer who spied for British intelligence,
got caught and was freed in a spy exchange in 2010.
They were heading for his home in provincial Salisbury...''

Luke doesn’t feel the need to dig down into the nitty gritty here –motive is a trifle, to be added in the footnotes or made
up on the spur of the moment when asked at a book signing.

I’m a bit more fussy than that –I feel the need to ask “Why did they release him in 2010 and then try to kill him in 2018?”
If they had wanted to kill him, why not just do it when he was in prison in Russia between 2006 and 2010?
If they wanted to kill him…why do it just weeks before the World Cup? What could they possibly have to gain?

Luke doesn’t know, and neither do I.

''...Their Aeroflot flight SU2588 touched down at 3pm on Friday 2 March.
They were recorded on CCTV going through passport control, Boshirov with dark hair
and a goatee beard, Petrov unshaven and wearing a blue gingham shirt.
Both were carrying satchels slung casually over the shoulder...''

This is all true, and completely unnecessary.
It’s what we in the industry call “filler” or “padding”. Totally meaningless and useless words that do nothing but take up space.
Without it, a lot of Luke’s books would only be about 700 words long.

''...According to police, the pair had visited the UK before...''

Way to bury the lead there, Luke.

This is actually quite important isn’t it? I mean, when did they visit the UK before? Did they visit Salisbury then too?
Did they have any contact with Sergei Skripal? Were they travelling under the same names? Were these visits linked
with other intelligence work? Were they just holidays?
What kind of assassins would use the SAME FAKE IDS ON TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS?

These are all very important questions, but Luke doesn’t ask them.
Because Luke is a modern journalist, and they don’t interrogate the claims of the state, just report them.
To Guardian reporters a question mark is just that funny squiggle next to the shift key.

''...From Gatwick they caught the train to London Victoria station and then the tube to
east London, where they checked in to the City Stay hotel in Bow.
It was a low-profile choice of accommodation.

The red-brick Victorian building is next to a branch of Barclays bank, a busy train line
and a wall daubed with graffiti. Across the road is a car pound and a Texaco garage...''

This just more filler. Totally meaningless packaging material. The prose equivalent of All-Bran.

''...On hostile territory, Boshirov and Petrov operated in the manner of classic intelligence
operatives...''

In this instance “the manner of classic intelligence operatives” means,
flying direct to London from Moscow, using Russian names and Russian passports (which you’ve used before),
checking into a hotel with a CCTV camera on the front door, going straight to the hometown of an ex-double agent,
leaving a Russian poison his front door even though he’s already gone out, dumping your unused poison in a charity
bin on the high street, going back to your hotel, smearing poison around that too even though you already dumped it,
and then flying directly back to Moscow without even waiting to see if the plan worked and the target is dead.

This, in Luke’s head, is ace intelligence work.

''...On the day of the hit, according to detectives, the pair made a similar journey,
taking the 8.05am train from Waterloo to Salisbury and arriving at 11.48am...''

Yes, they arrived at 11.48, making it absolutely pointless to put poison on the Skripal’s door, as they had already gone out.

"...The perfume bottle was probably concealed in a light grey backpack carried by Petrov...''

It was “probably concealed” in that backpack because, as I said above, there’s no evidence either of those men ever
knew the perfume bottle existed. You never see it in their possession.

Oh, and the backpack would have to contain TWO bottles of perfume –because the police aren’t sure the bottle Rowley
found 3 months later was the same bottle, and Rowley reported it was unopened and wrapped in cellophane.

Perhaps Luke should have read the details of the case instead of trolling IMDB looking for movie titles with “plane” in them
or googling “insouciant” to see if he was using it right.

''...From Salisbury station the two men set off on foot. It was a short walk of about a
mile to Skripal’s semi-detached home in Christie Miller Road...''

…which doesn’t matter, because the Skripals weren’t there. They left at 9.15 and there is no evidence they ever returned.

''...At Skripal’s house the Russians smeared or sprayed novichok on to the front door
handle, police say...''

…which doesn’t matter, because the Skripals weren’t there. They left at 9.15 and there is no evidence they ever returned.

It doesn’t matter if Borishov and Petrov re-tiled the bathroom with novichok grouting or hid novichok in the battery compartment
of Sergei’s TV remote or replaced all his lightbulbs with novichok bombs that explode when you use the clapper….
according to everything we’ve been told so far Sergei and Julia were literally never in that house again.

Luke seems to write a lot about this case, considering he is barely acquainted with the most basic facts of it.

''...The moment went unobserved..''

True. There is not a single piece of footage, photograph or eyewitness placing these men within a hundred feet of the
Skripals, or their house. The “moment went unobserved” is an incredibly dishonest way of phrasing this, “the moment
is entirely theoretical” is rather fairer. Or, if you want to be honest “it’s possible none of this happened”.

''...At some point on their walk back they must have tossed away the bottle,
which at this point was too dangerous to try to smuggle back through customs...''

It’s all falling into place perfectly isn’t it?
At some point the two men, who we never see holding or carrying the bottle, must have thrown it away because three
months later someone else found it. They took it through customs once but couldn’t a second time, because reasons.

Also one of them was smiling a sort of “I just poisoned somebody” smile:

''...At 1.05pm the men were recorded in Fisherton Street on their way back to
the station. They appeared more relaxed, Petrov grinning even...''

Those evil bastards.

''...By the time Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, were found collapsed on a
park bench in the centre of Salisbury later that afternoon, the poisoners were gone...''

No Luke: By the time Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, were found collapsed on a park bench in the centre of
Salisbury later that afternoon, the ALLEGED poisoners were gone.
Alleged is an important word for example, there is a marked difference between being an ALLEGED plagiarist,
and being a plagiarist.

''...The visitors were captured on CCTV one more time, at Heathrow airport. It was 7.28pm
and both men were going through security, Petrov first, wheeling a small black case.
In his right hand was a shiny red object, his Russian passport.
Police believe the passport was genuine, his name not. In other words, that it was a sophisticated
espionage operation carried out by a state or state entities...''

You see? Nobody thought the passport was fake, which means it was a really good fake. So the Russian state must have
been in on it. This is known as an unfalsifiable hypothesis. If the passport did look fake, that would be evidence that the
men were spies…and therefore the Russian state was in on it.

Harding has created a narrative where there is literally no development that could ever challenge his conclusions.

''...Seemingly, the GRU plan –executed two weeks before Russia’s presidential election
–had worked perfectly...''


This is an example of the cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy –two things happen at the same time, therefore they happen
for the same reason. It’s a maneuver we at OffG refer to as “the Harding”, where you state two separate assertions or facts one
after the other in such a way as to imply a relationship, without ever making a solid statement.

I’ll give you an example:
Luke Harding was born in 1968, mere weeks before the brutal assassination of Robert Kennedy.

Harding is suggesting some sort of connection between the election and the poisoning. He can’t STATE it, because then he has
to explain his reasoning –and there isn’t any. Putin, and Russia as a whole, had nothing to gain from poisoning an ex-spy they had
released nearly a decade earlier, especially on the eve of a Presidential election and mere weeks before the World Cup.

There’s no argument to be made, so he doesn’t attempt to make one, he just makes a snide and baseless insinuation.
In his defense, Luke might genuinely believe it, cum hoc ergo propter hoc is a favorite amongst paranoid personalities,
of which Luke is definitely a prime example.

''..Vladimir Putin, the man whom a public inquiry found in 2016 had “probably” signed off
on the operation to kill Litvinenko. The UK security services say a “body of evidence” points
to the GRU...''

“Probably” is also a big word. For example, there’s a marked difference between “probably being a plagiarist” and “being
a plagiarist”.

''...It seems clear that Moscow continues to view Britain as a playground for undercover
operations and is relatively insouciant about the consequences, diplomatic and political.

The Skripal attack may have misfired. But the message, mingling contempt and arrogance,
is there for all to see: we can smite our enemies whenever and wherever we want, and there
is nothing you can do about it...''

This is the second time Luke has used the word “insouciant” in two days, which means that word of the day calendar was a
probably sound investment, but he forgot to flip it over this morning.
Other than that, this final paragraph is nothing but paranoia.

The Russians were TRYING to make it obvious, to send a message.
But were also lazy and arrogant. And yet also left no solid evidence because they are experts at espionage.
They had no motive except being mean, and couldn’t even be bothered to make sure they did it right.
They want us all to know they did it, but will never admit it.

The actual truth of the situation can be summed up in a few bullet points. Currently:

*There is no evidence these men were using forged documents.

*There is no evidence these men were travelling under aliases or assumed names.

*There is no evidence these men ever had any contact with Sergei Skripal’s house.

*There is no evidence these men ever had any contact with Sergei Skripal or his daughter.

*There is no evidence these men were Russian intelligence assets or had any military training.

*There is no evidence these men ever possessed or had any contact with the perfume bottle
found by Charlie Rowley on June 27th.

*They have visited the UK before, not on intelligence business (as far as we know).

*Their movements don’t align with the timeline of Skripal’s illness.

The entire narrative is created around half a dozen screen caps of two (allegedly) Russian men, not behaving in any way illegally
or even suspiciously. All the rest is fiction, created by a hack to service an agenda.
This isn’t one of those “You couldn’t make it up” stories, it’s not that incredible. It’s just insulting and stupid.

You could make it up, and he did.
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(09-08-2018, 11:06 AM)Wallfire Wrote: ...the who thing does seem like an episode of the professionals,
but at the rate they are going it will soon be a Dixon of dock green episode...

In a nutshell, mate... you're dead-on!
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The BBC -realising that there's no way they can shoe-horn a black lesbian in a wheelchair into the latest spy-novel,
have finally got on board with the 'Let's Get Russia' narrative.

Quote:Paramedic says Nikolai Glushkov believed he was poisoned.

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'A Russian who was murdered in the UK last March believed two men from Moscow had tried to poison him
five years earlier, it has been reported...'

Oh shit!! It's 'The Jeff & Paul Show' again!

Quote:'...Nikolai Glushkov was found apparently strangled in his home in south-west London a week after the Novichok
poisoning of the Skripals in Salisbury. The Guardian has now revealed he was allegedly poisoned in 2013 after
he shared champagne with two Russians.
The paper says the police are reinvestigating the incident...'

Oh shit!! It's The Guardian again!

Quote:'...Mr Glushkov -a prominent Russian businessman and former deputy director of state airline Aeroflot -was jailed for
five years in his home country in 1999 after being charged with money laundering and fraud.

After being given a suspended sentence for another count of fraud in 2006, he was granted political asylum in the UK in
2010 and became a critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Paramedic Keith Carr told the Guardian that he treated Mr Glushkov in November 2013 for suspected poisoning after
the businessman had shared drinks with two men from Moscow in Bristol's Grand Hotel.

Mr Carr, who was working for the South Western Ambulance Service, said he responded to a report that Mr Glushkov
had collapsed on the carpet the morning after the drinks. He told the paper: "I found Nikolai on the floor of his hotel room.
He was able to stand up with help. He looked a bit tottery. We sat him on the bed.

"I asked him what had happened. He told me that he and the two Russians had been drinking the champagne together the
previous evening. He went off to the loo and when he came back he drank more champagne.
"The next thing he remembered was waking up on the carpet the next morning.
He had carpet burns on his face and on his chest."...'

Steady now, any mature adult can tell you carpet burns are a sign of...

Quote:'...Mr Glushkov told Mr Carr that he believed the Russians had poisoned him and that he was a likely target because of his
close friendship with fellow Russian businessman Boris Berezovsky, who came to the UK in 1999 after falling out with Mr Putin.
Mr Berezovsky was found hanged in the bathroom of his Berkshire home in 2013, six months before the incident with Mr Glushkov.

Mr Carr said two police officers were in the room while he treated Mr Glushkov for an abnormal heart rhythm and other symptoms,
but, he added: "At the time I don't think anybody gave any credibility to what he was saying."
Avon and Somerset Police has confirmed the incident was investigated at the time and no charges were brought.

The Guardian reported that the officers are now reinvestigating the incident as part of their murder inquiry...'
The BBC:

So basically speaking, the BBC are so indifferent on this incident, they'll leave The Guardian to shovel the shit.
Unless... The Guardian and the BBC are connected in some way?
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Let me see if I understand this right, he had been out drinking all night, woke up with the mother of all hang overs, and had carpet burns on his chest and face.
Maybe the Russians have been watching too much South Park and President Garrisions way of handling problums
"F###ing them all to death"
(09-08-2018, 02:25 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Let me see if I understand this right, he had been out drinking all night, woke up with the mother of all hang overs, and had carpet burns on his chest and face.
Maybe the Russians have been watching too much South Park and President Garrisions way of handling problums
"F###ing them all to death"

Dry-assing on an abrasive carpet has been suggested as an alternative to Novichok -scientists have said.


I think.
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