Something is cooking...

[BIAD]

I read in one of your posts that they had visited a chemist during their daily travels.  Maybe he had something there they were exposed to and it was a secret experiment. Those involved in investigating were told to use a cover story. Using the gas agent would be a good cover and put the public in fear at the same time... right where they want them.

Just a thought.  

Your suggestion has just as much merit has the ones currently used by the media.

More BBC updated commentary.

'...The couple poisoned by Novichok were exposed to the substance after handling a contaminated item, police say.

Charlie Rowley, 45, and Dawn Sturgess, 44, collapsed at a house in Amesbury, Wiltshire, on Saturday and remain
critically ill. Home secretary Sajid Javid said the nerve agent was the same as that used on ex-Russian spy Sergei
Skripal and his daughter in March.

Russia said Theresa May's government was subjecting them "to hell"...'

The Government-funded broadcaster continues their own alloted narrative.
Basically, it's ther guys saying what they like!

'...BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said that because the highest concentration of Novichok was found
on the couple's hands, police believe the item they handled could be a container or receptacle that was used to
carry the nerve agent.

He said the most likely hypothesis is that the Novichok was left over from an item discarded after the attack on the
Skripals...'

'...The BBC's home affairs correspondent June Kelly said it has been suggested the item "could be a vial or syringe
because of the couple's lifestyle"...'

The official standing.
In a statement to MPs, Mr Javid said: 
'..."It is completely unacceptable for our people to be either deliberate or accidental targets, or for our streets, our parks,
our towns, to be dumping grounds for poison," he added....'

Ironic really, considering we're advised by the Mayor of London to accept that our streets, our parks and towns to become
killing grounds for knife-wielding robbers!

So we're left with the idea that these two drug-users discovered something the Metropolitan Police, Porton Down chemical
experts and a multi-million pound search failed to find. I suggest these organisations should be adjoined with the FBI in
their quest to find Russia-Trump collusion!!

[Mystic Wanderer]

@"BIAD" said,  "I suggest these organisations should be adjoined with the FBI in their quest to find Russia-Trump collusion!!"

Sounds like they'd fit right in.    

Also sounds like someone up TOP is desperate to get Russia into a war. They are running out of funds.  

[BIAD]

Body of man found in wood near Sarum Close, Salisbury.

'THE body of a man was found in woods near to Sarum Close in Salisbury yesterday (July 4).
Police were called just before 3pm.

A Wiltshire Police spokesman said: "Investigations are currently ongoing. At this point in time it
is not thought that there are any suspicious circumstances." The area was cordoned off by police.

The ambulance service was also in attendance with a rapid response vehicle and two ambulances...'

The Salisbury Journal:

[Wallfire]

Body of man found in wood near Sarum Close, Salisbury.

'THE body of a man was found in woods near to Sarum Close in Salisbury yesterday (July 4).
Police were called just before 3pm.

A Wiltshire Police spokesman said: "Investigations are currently ongoing. At this point in time it
is not thought that there are any suspicious circumstances." The area was cordoned off by police.

The ambulance service was also in attendance with a rapid response vehicle and two ambulances...'

The Salisbury Journal:

For this last few years there has been reports in news papers in GB about the ambulance service been so over worked that people are dieing because they cant respond to a call out. But here , they send two ambulances and a rapid response vehicle for a body ( dead person). Is it not so if a person is already dead an ambulance does not transport the body ??

[Wallfire]

If I just look at the news about a government that is chasing its own tail, health services failing, how the government is handling the nerve agent exposure, the leader of the capital city agreeing to let an offensive blimp be flown when the leader of the USA is there. Massive child rape, acid and knife crimes out of control. 
How many people would think this was about some mad third world country ??

[BIAD]

Amesbury Novichok contaminated item search continues.

'Police in hazmat suits have been searching a Salisbury hostel as they try to find the item contaminated
with a nerve agent that poisoned a couple. Investigators entered John Baker House, where one of the victims,
Dawn Sturgess, 44, lives, on Friday afternoon.

Police believe Charlie Rowley, 45, and Ms Sturgess were exposed to Novichok after handling the unknown object.
The pair remain in a critical condition in hospital.

Police said the "unique challenges" surrounding the operation meant "police activity is expected to take weeks and
months to complete". They added they are looking through more than 1,300 hours of CCTV footage to help them find
the source of the contamination.
BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said no objects have been collected for testing yet.

A government scientist told BBC News that the contaminated item was unlikely to have been left in the open before
the couple touched it. Novichok can be degraded by rainwater and sunlight over time -meaning it was probably
discovered by the pair in a contained space, the government source added.
But other experts have said the nerve agent was designed to be persistent and not break down.

Speaking to BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner, the government scientist also said the Novichok was so
toxic it was able to pass through the skin and did not need to be ingested.
The source added that Mr Rowley and Ms Sturgess's symptoms were the same as those shown by Russian ex-spy
Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.
They were both poisoned with Novichok in nearby Salisbury in March...'

SOURCE:

The article goes on to explain the personal surroundings of the couple, banal comments from politicians and
Russia's view on the odd situation.
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I find it strange that even though the BBC are basically the mouth-piece for the Government, they can't bring themselves
to release the information regarding the potency-life of this alleged binary-mixed agent. Is it that Porton Down Labs don't
know or they don't want to share how long this stuff lasts with the public?

We're given the story that someone mixed the two-parts chemical, applied it to Skripal's front-door knob and then fled.
Since the 4th March when it happened, the supposed container holding the dangerous material has remained hidden
by officialdom and then four months later, two low-class drug-users find it and cause the nerve agent to react again.

And as of the date of this writing, that same officialdom has still failed to find it.

[guohua]

If I just look at the news about a government that is chasing its own tail, health services failing, how the government is handling the nerve agent exposure, the leader of the capital city agreeing to let an offensive blimp be flown when the leader of the USA is there. Massive child rape, acid and knife crimes out of control. 
How many people would think this was about some mad third world country ??

It's So Very Sad,,,,Yes, My Husband was reading your and BIAD posts and he said that back in the Late 70's, the time he spent in Great Britain and in London was the best.
Clean Streets and Nice and polite and Helpful People, Everywhere he went.
The police were Helpful and Just Everywhere on every street and in the Alley's.

He said that even the Bad Guys he was following and infiltrating Liked All Of Great Britain and the people. They didn't want to leave when recalled to their Home Country.

Put Now, The UK (the Model for the NWO) has allowed it self to be over run with people who Don't Care For or love Your County or Culture.
No, the Politicians had to Play The Politically Correct Card and be Nice and Giving and Forgiving, they had to be like Obama and Bow Down To Thugs and Scum and Rapist and Murderers.


They want to show Disrespect to President Trump, Because the POTUS, Donald Trump knows what the problem is and it's Called Open Borders and Unchecked Immigration and Political Correctness.
President Trumps wants to Correct this Problem in the United States of America and some of the UK's Local Leaders Don't Want the NWO, Open Borders Stopped.
Sorry Law Abiding People of the UK.

[Wallfire]

I believe that GB is lost, nothing short of a war will ever save it. The social engineering started just after WW2, and slowly expanded and gained speed over the years. I dont think the social engineering was ever meant to go so far or be so extreme, but it seems to have been taken over by unknown powers.

[BIAD]

The search for the elusive Novichok container goes on and with chemical waepons experts at a loss
with where it could be, maybe it's time to use the skills of homeless people or another couple of
drug-users?

It was reported that a 'Bobby-on-the-beat' scouring the Housing Association apartment of Mr. Rowley
may have come into contact with the supposedly-lethal four month old substance, but it's now emerged
that he either hadn't or the Novichok likes men in uniform.

Wiltshire Police officer given all-clear over Novichok fear.



'A police officer tested for possible exposure to a nerve agent in Salisbury has been given the
medical all-clear. The Wiltshire Police officer was treated a short distance from Amesbury where
Dawn Sturgess, 44, and her partner Charlie Rowley, 45, fell ill last Saturday.

They remain in a critical condition after being exposed to Novichok by handling a contaminated item.
The officer was cleared at Salisbury District Hospital.

Wiltshire Police confirmed that one of their officers had been "seeking medical advice" at the hospital
as part of "a precautionary measure".

A Salisbury District Hospital spokesperson said: "There is nothing to suggest there is any wider risk to
anyone at the hospital." The spokesperson added that the hospital had "the ability to carry out the
appropriate specialist tests.

"Salisbury District Hospital has seen a number of members of the public who have come to the hospital
with health concerns since this incident started and none have required any treatment.

"We would like to reiterate the advice from Public Health England (PHE) that the risk to the wider public
remains low." The emergency department at the Great Western Hospital in Swindon where the officer
initially attended had been closed but reopened at about 22:00 BST.

'...Police are conducting a search for the item believed to have exposed the pair to Novichok.
However, BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says the hunt has been hindered by the heatwave
as chemical weapons experts wearing Hazmat (Hazardous Material) suits can only spend a few minutes
inside the property being searched....'

BBC:

Just another standard report issued to the mainstream media.

But what about investigative journalism...? Even from the comfort of my armchair, I can see that certain things
don't add-up. If we accept the official timeline, then we can use the word 'problematic'

The registered heroin-user who was uneffected after his lady-friend was taken to hospital. -Charles Rowley.
The Police Assistant Commissioner, -who in January, announced he was retiring in the same month of this
occurrence, proclaimed the official stance was this incident was a nerve-agent posioning. -Mark Rowley.

My next bit is to look at the possible routes Sturgess and Rowley took from that Friday until they came
down with the nerve-agent doses... or something!

[Wallfire]

I now stress one thing, I AM NOT AN EXPERT in this field, but when I read about the side effects of the people affected by this latest "attack " another drug comes to mind and its Fentanyl.

[BIAD]

I now stress one thing, I AM NOT AN EXPERT in this field, but when I read about the side effects of the people affected by this latest "attack " another drug comes to mind and its Fentanyl.

I've seen that suggestion elsewhere and I'll take a look at where I saw it.
............................

Ignoring the warnings of the nerve-agent's potency, the duration from first contact to the manifestations
of it's actions and the life-span in an opitimum contained situation, following the couple's reported route
might give clues to how lethal (and stealthy!) Novichok is.

It astouds me that these two found what so-called experts failed to discover. There've been reports
of Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley 'dumpster-diving' and coming across a syringe. Finding a
container under bushes somewhere and somehow becoming contaminated by passing the restaurant
where the Skripals ate!

Four months after a deadly Russian chemical was mixed and applied, a doorknob of the Skripals house
taken away for examination, miles of Salisbury scoured by Hazmat-wearing professionals, Zizzi's eating
establishment closed along with the public house the Skripals drank in, clothing from the public taken and
destroyed and these two drug-abusers beat the odds?!!!

This also includes any dumpsters not be checked and not being emptied for four months too!
The guys at Porton Down labs must have red faces or are laughing their asses off.
.............................................

Tracking the latest couple's movements from the media's timeline.

Friday 29th June.
We're to assume that Rowley and Sturgess first went to a chemists (drug store) in Salisbury  and also
presuming that the beginning of this timeline starts at the woman's 'John Baker Homeless Housing'
apartment, the first chemists (drug store) would be in the same same street. Rollestone Street.
Incidently, it's now reported that Homeless building has been evacuated.

If our goal is to get the couple from an assumed place of accommodation to the Queen Elizabeth Gardens
-where they supposedly 'relaxing'.
Setting-off from Dawn Sturgess' house in the Salisbury would be the rational supposition.
Even though Salisbury is an old English town, the area we're interested is basically laid-out in blocks.

Rollestone street runs north-south, when it crosses a east-west road (Salt Lane) at the north-end, it keeps
its name until it reaches Bedwin Street and then is no more.
Going south on Rollestone Street, it meets Winchester Street that runs east-west and changes it's name
to Brown Street.

The Three Swans Pharmacy is almost parallel with Ms. Sturgess' living accommodation in Rollestone street.
And assuming drug-use and housing those using such chemicals are usually connected, one may offer that
the pharmacy would be a regular haunt for those seeking equipment to administer such drugs or look for ways
of staying off them.

But it's also reported that the couple visited -after a chemists, an off-licence (liquor store) and then a charity
shop (thrift-shop).

If we continue south on Rollestone Street, we reach the corner of Winchester Street and we're also travelling
in the general direction of the Queen Elizabeth Gardens, where the couple were reported to have 'relaxed'

West of that corner, on Winchester Street is 'Cambridge Wine Merchants' where alcohol can be purchased.
The only other off-licence is The Premier Off-Licence which is far west of Rollestone Street, but nearer the
Gardens than the Cambridge Wine Merchants.

Cambridge Wine Merchants is separated by two betting-shops from 'The British Red Cross Shop' that
is also on Winchester Street. It is a charity shop.

However, there's an abundance of such charitable properties south of this location and I would wager that if
the wine-merchants is the correct place and Rowley and Sturgess didn't use the Red Cross establishment,
they would procede west along Winchester Street to Queen Street that runs north-south.

Travelling south, Queen Street meets east-west Milford Street and magically morphs into 'Catherine Street'!
It's stll aiming south and this thoroughfare is lined with thrift shops.
Two Oxfam shops, South Wiltshire MenCap (mentally-handicapped) on the western side of the street.
Trussell Trust Charity Shop, The Hospice Shop, Sailors' Society Shop, Barnardos, Cancer Research Charity
Shop on the east.

Arriving at the southern end of Catherine Street and turning west, we take a long walk along New Street.
There are only two charity shops on this road, they're not too-far from our desired location.
There's another Trussell Trust Charity store and a Dogs Trust Charity Shop. Passing these two places 
and continuing west, we cross the River Avon and arrive at the Queen Elizabeth Gardens.
Phew!
.............................................

If the route I suggested above is true, when searching for a Drug Store (apart from the one in Rollestone Street)
-along that route one would find a 'Superdrug' store behind the western-side of Catherine Street and and another
of the same company just-off New Street. 

There is a 'Boots' Chemists, but the company name of a chemists in the articles is only mentioned when the
couple are in Amesbury. The Boots Chemists in Salisbury is in Silver Street, but it's not conducive with visiting
charity shops. It's possible only because it would be between Ms. Sturgess' home and the park, but it means
a meandering path to include the charity shops.

But there's one more place where needle-exchange is done and that's Harcourt Medical Centre and it's right
next to The Queen Elizabeth Gardens. But... that would reverse the account given by the mainstream Press
where they reported a chemists, an off-licence, a charity shop and then the gardens.
 .............................................

Returning from The Queen Elizabeth Gardens.

Taking the leap of faith that after their relaxing time in the foliage-laden gardens named to commemorate the
coronation of Queen Elizabeth II in the sixties, we're to believe Rowley and Sturgess did one-of-two things
The couple parted and Ms. Sturgess made her way back to her accommodation in Rollestone Street alone or she
was accompanied by Mr. Rowley.

Either way, The MailOnline states that 'she' returned to her flat near Zizzi's Restaurant where the Skripals dined
before their poisoning. It's possible, Zizzi's is on an almost direct route to Ms. Sturgess' home from the park,
but it's nowhere near her home.

And it would mean that the area around the restaurant, the corner of the nearby play-area where the Skripals were
discovered convulsing and the surrounding streets, had not been thoroughly investigated.
And also that for four months, this busy area -cordoned off for most of the time, contained the dangerous material
accessible to the public. What unique abilities did this pair have to find such a well-hidden nerve-agent?

I call b*llshit on this and offer that if a dangerous container was discovered by Rowley and Sturgess, it was found
in the Queen Elizabeth Park, taken back to her flat and only scrutinised the next day. If not that, then it's location was
in Amesbury.
And if both are wrong, it was mis-use of heroin that caused their attacks and the British Government are using the
incident as a support-story for the Skripal attack.
 .............................................

That Next Day! Saturday 30th June.

Dawn Sturgess leaves her flat in the John Baker Homeless Housing building of Salisbury and somehow travels the
9.3 miles north to Amesbury. No personal vehicles are mentioned throughout any of the reports, so it was on-foot or
by public transport.

The A345 is not an ideal walk for a pedestrian during the hot weather the UK has recently enjoyed, so I'd suggest she
used the bus. It only takes around thirty minutes.
Possibly disembarking south and outside of small town near Stonehenge, Muggleton Road is part of a new housing
estate where the properties sell at over £400,000 ($531,519.20)

It's not on Google maps, but I suspect it's a section of housing just off Penny Lane at the south-east of Amesbury.
The estate is known as 'King's Gate' and it's close... really close to Boscombe Down Ministry Of Defence.
Read into that, what you will!

It could be that with the ever-creasing burden of caring for the vulnerable, the Amesbury parish believed a particular
type of housing in an affluent setting would encourage community spirit and show a better life is available to those who
struggle with substances.
It could also be that lucrative Government monies are accessible to Councils and construction companies when building
communities that attach social-housing into their plans.

Around half-a-mile north of 'Muggleton Road' is the Amesbury Baptist Centre that lies on northern edge of the roundabout
of Porton Road and Butterfield Drive. It's reported the couple walked to this church and Dawn Sturgess became ill during
their time there and returned back -possiby with Charlie Rowley, to his flat.
But note the bottom section of this announcement.

(From Amesbury Baptist Centre website.)
"On Saturday 30th June, Amesbury Baptist Church held a community fun day and this
was a well-planned and successful afternoon for all who attended. We are not aware
of any concerns from the day itself and no one was taken ill.

We were shocked to learn that Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess are in a critical
condition in hospital having been exposed to nerve agent. Only Mr Rowley attended
our event.

Revd Barry M Davis"
SOURCE:

So did Dawn Sturgess not attend the 'Fun Day'...? If not, where did she go? Did she go anywhere?!

At Rowley's abode, a telephone call was made to the hospital and an ambulance takes Ms. Sturgess the 10.9 miles back
south to Salisbury District Hospital west of Salisbury town centre.

Not accompanying his female friend, Charlie Rowley either revisits community fun day at Amesbury Baptist Church -because
the announcement above states it was 'a succesful afternoon' or sets out to travel the 1.5 miles north-west to the Boots Pharmacy
in Salisbury Street, Amesbury.

Why he went to the drug-store remains unknown, but it seems odd that after using the facility, he walks the three miles back to his
house to retrieve clothing for Ms. Sturgess. There's no account of Mr. Rowley actually visiting his friend on Saturday afternoon and
so that evening, another telephone call was made to the hospital due to Charlie Rowley becoming seriously ill as well.

The MailOnline reported that neighbours were told there was a gas-leak, but why would they be told that unless Rowley's symptoms
implied a reaction to domestic gas? Were the 'neighbours' also vulnerable residents of King's Gate?

There's no more information until Monday when the Police announce that a 'contaminated batch' of drugs may be the cause of Dawn
and Charlie's woes. Then Tuesday, it becomes the official 'Novichok' incident.
 .............................................

A friend of the couple, Sam Hobson -who is only 29 years old when considering Ms. Sturgess is 44 and Rowley is 45 years-old,
said he spent the day with them and stated that Ms Sturgess first went to hospital on Saturday at 11am.
Speaking, he said "...Mr Hobson and Mr Rowley, then went to a number of places in the town centre and attended a church fair
in Amesbury..."

Who is he and recalling that the church's website said Rowley attended the fun-fair and it was a successful afternoon, what time
was available for the chemist visit and returning to the Housing Association's flat? By placing the fete at the latter-end of his
comment implies it was the last place they visited.
It may be that Ms. Sturgess returned to Rowley's digs alone and if so, how ill was she?

Hobson continues.
He told Reporters “I was speaking to him, getting no response. They thought first it was drugs but now they know it’s not the drugs.”
Mr Hobson said the police and fire brigade were in “hazard suits and they cordoned it all off”.
IrishTimes:

He or 'they' thought it was the drugs...? They were using drugs in the flat, the church fete or the chemists?!
After all, he spent the day with them.

There's a lot of confusion in this incident and it doesn't add up.
.........................................

This just-in.

NOVICHOK 'CRACK DEN'

Novichok victims Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley ‘picked up the nerve agent vial from a park drug den’.

Neighbour Tom Ricks told The Sun on Sunday drug dealers keep their stashes hidden in the Queen Elizabeth
Gardens.

'Novichok victims Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley picked up the nerve agent vial from a park drug den, a
neighbour says. Tom Ricks said dealers often placed stashes in their crack hideout at Queen Elizabeth Gardens
in Salisbury, Wiltshire.

He believes Dawn, 44, and Charlie, 45 -both fighting for their lives -went to the park and picked up a package
contaminated with the poison before taking it home. Mechanic Tom, 31, said: “I think it already had Novichok on it.

"That or they picked up the Novichok container from the same spot. It is terrifying.”

Forensic investigators in protective suits yesterday continued to scour potentially contaminated sites, including
Charlie’s flat above Tom’s in Amesbury, near Salisbury, where the couple fell ill last weekend.

Dawn’s mother Caroline is said to have told pals she fears her “lost soul” daughter is being denied the same care
as poisoned Russians Sergei and Yulia Skripal as she is a “nobody alcoholic”.

Queen Elizabeth Gardens is a known spot for boozers and drug users and is a five-minute walk from where the
Skripals were found after being poisoned by Novichok on March 4. Dawn may be brain damaged after she was
starved of oxygen for 30 minutes, her son Ewen said.
He added: “They said she had the same symptoms as the Skripals. “I told her, ‘I love you, mum. I just want you to
wake up and get better’.

A cop from Salisbury who feared he had Novichok symptoms was examined and given the all-clear last night...'

The SUN:

[BIAD]

Novichok: Murder inquiry after Dawn Sturgess dies.

'Police have launched a murder inquiry after a woman exposed to nerve agent Novichok in Wiltshire died.
Dawn Sturgess, 44, died in hospital on Sunday evening after falling ill on 30 June.


Dawn Sturgess.

Charlie Rowley, 45, who was also exposed to the nerve agent in Amesbury, remains critically ill in hospital.
Theresa May said she was "appalled and shocked" by the death, which comes after the poisoning of Sergei
Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury.

A post-mortem examination of Ms Sturgess, from Durrington, is due to take place and her family has been
informed, police said. The investigation is being led by detectives from the Counter-Terrorism Policing Network
and about 100 detectives are working on the case alongside Wiltshire Police.

Officers are still trying to work out how Ms Sturgess and Mr Rowley were exposed to the nerve agent although
tests have confirmed they touched a contaminated item with their hands. Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu,
the head of UK Counter-Terrorism policing, said: "This is shocking and tragic news...'

SOURCE:

The rest of the article is condolences from noted officials displaying their sympathies. But in regards of factual
information, there's none.

[BIAD]

Here's an odd piece from The MailOnline website. I realise it leans towards a theory that many believe of
the Government piggy-backing a drug-related tragedy to further it's own ends, but it is a glimpse into what
might just be the real situation here.

The timeline has changed and so has the positioning of the people. Again, I understand that the once-serious
task of Journalism has now transformed into guesswork and appealing tokenism. It's been a craze around
for some time!
A witness to Rowley's attack seems to be ignored and two individuals who accompany the lady who has just
died when she visits an off-licence (liquor store).

I'd expect the Police not to correct a media's insinuation as it's not their task, only at the end of of a crime are
the full facts displayed. Yet, characters in this incident are not approached or questioned by the Reporters,
it's just all about emotive comments of the heart-broken relatives.

'...'Dawn is not getting the same quality of treatment as the Skripals because of her background and the fact 
he's an alcoholic,' her mother told family. 'She's seen as a nobody, really.'...'

'...Dawn's grieving mother Caroline confided in the hours after her daughter's death: 'It's not looking good for
Charlie either. Maybe a few days. He won't pull out of this either. He's just alive with the machines.'...'

'...She told her family: 'Dawn died before 10 o'clock tonight. Her body just shut down.
With her drink and drug addiction, her body wasn't strong enough to deal with this.''...'
SOURCE:

It's an ideal blame-tactic to enrage the reader by implying that a long-term drunk and drug addict who it's
assumed hasn't contributed to the cost of a society and now demands the best of medical care.
But it's not Journalism, it's that shitty castigation-entertainment that's prevalent today.
....................................

A timeline offered by The Sun newspaper indicates Charley Rowley was with Dawn Sturgess for all of the
Friday and also on the Saturday morning when his female friend took ill. (Now 10.15am instead of 11.00am
previously stated by The Mail.)

Dawn had been seen purchasing alcohol on CCTV in an off-licence (liquor store) on the day of the
incident. The footage is on this page. But who are the two young men with Ms. Sturgess...?
Link To Footage:


The Sun's Timeline -the victims' last movements before falling ill...

Friday, June 29 
At around 12.20pm Charlie Rowley and Dawn Strugess are together at John Baker House in Salisbury.
They then leave that venue and visit a number of shops in Salisbury before going to Queen Elizabeth Gardens.
They return to John Baker House at around 4.20pm before catching a bus to Amesbury at approximately 10.30pm.
The couple are then believed to have spent the night at an address on Muggleton Road, Amesbury.

Saturday, June 30
At 10.15am, the South West Ambulance Service are called to an address on Muggleton Road, where Sturgess had
been taken ill, and she was subsequently taken to hospital. Rowley was also present at the address at this time.

At around midday, Rowley visits Boots the chemist on Stonehenge Walk in Amesbury and then returns to his address
in Muggleton Road around half an hour later.
At around 1.45pm Rowley visits the Amesbury Baptist Centre on Butterfield Drive and again returns home at around 3pm.
At 6.20pm the South West Ambulance Service are called back to the address on Muggleton Road and Rowley is also
taken to hospital.

The Sun:

It's changing... the couple are now together in Salisbury on Friday evening and left for Rowley's home in Amesbury
late on Friday night. By bus.

On Saturday morning at 10.15am, Dawn Sturgess is taken ill and instead of accomapanying his friend to hospital,
Charlie Rowley (possibly with Sam Hobson) leaves his abode, walks the 1.5 miles -as the crow flies (I fixed the error
above!) to Boots the Chemists (Drug Store) and returns home 30 minutes later.

Later, Rowley leaves his Muggleton Road residence and visits a fun festival at Amesbury Baptist Church and arrives
at 1.45pm.

Staying until 3.00pm, he then with Sam Hobson -recalling "..."Mr Hobson and Mr Rowley, then went to a number of
places in the town centre and attended a church fair"in Amesbury..." left the fair and then took ill back at his home
at 6.15pm.

Sam Hobson stated in The Irish Times linked in a previous posting:
 “I was speaking to him, getting no response. They thought first it was drugs but now they know it’s not the drugs.”
So Hobson was there throughout the day and to-date, is unaffected by the supposed nerve gas.

One might surmise that if such a deadly container ws acquired by the couple, it wasn't found in Amesbury on the
Saturday, but discovered on Friday at Salisbury. However, it seems the object wasnt tampered with until Saturday
and at Rowley's home in Amesbury.
....................................

Ignore the inset-piece on the image below. The Sun newspaper obviously screwed-up in the Graphics Dept. and
put the same text in different boxes. When clicked on at the website, it states '8/17 Police release a timeline of the
poisoned Salisbury couple's final movements as they attempt to find the source of the Novichok'
(Notice the inset map indicates west-to-east, when in reality, Amesbury is north of Salisbury!)


Image Link:
So is it an official timeline or are The Sun just bandying around the word 'Police' to imply it has integrity?!

....................................
It's a confusing time and I can appreciate we -the public, don't have the whole facts. But that nagging question
still lingers... how could this couple find something the Police and Porton Down experts failed to recover?
And this alleged object with a nerve-gas formula still on it's surface is still missing.

[Wallfire]

Thank you BIAD for some very impressive investigation. Please keep up the good work.
Now an idea put forward by a friend of mine ( they gave permission for me to use it here) is that a drug dealer has got there hands on this nerve agent and used it on this couple because of unpaid drug debts. This would serve as a very powerful warning to others to pay there debts.
How did the dealer get the nerve agent, well that is an interesting question, but anything can be got if you know the right people.

[BIAD]

Thank you BIAD for some very impressive investigation. Please keep up the good work.
Now an idea put forward by a friend of mine ( they gave permission for me to use it here) is that a drug dealer has got there hands on this nerve agent and used it on this couple because of unpaid drug debts. This would serve as a very powerful warning to others to pay there debts.
How did the dealer get the nerve agent, well that is an interesting question, but anything can be got if you know the right people.

*BIAD curtsies!*

It would make sense and I'd add that our natural perception -moulded by the MSM to some extent,
tends to see such nerve-agents as only used by James Bond-style individuals and resist realising that
something rare or valuable is only that when in the appropriate forum.

A warning -whether meant for this couple or who they purchased their drugs from, could well be in the
form of something we'd been told is 'rare'. But it's only rare to those who haven't access to it.
We have no idea what 'ammunition' is acquired by those who deal in such dangerous chemicals.

I agree with your friend's suggestion.

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By the way, here's an odd post on Twitter from Sunday after the incident. I don't use the medium, but it was there.

[Wallfire]

I still think it was the drug dealer who mixed the drugs with Fentanyl becouse of unpaid debt, and the government just jumped on the band wagon . Think along the lines of Irak and WMDs, not the first time a government  has lied to the people 

[BIAD]

I still think it was the drug dealer who mixed the drugs with Fentanyl becouse of unpaid debt, and the government just jumped on the band wagon . Think along the lines of Irak and WMDs, not the first time a government  has lied to the people 

Who the characters are in this incident and how the illnesses were formed, will always be debatable.
But -just like you, I believe Novichok and Russian assassins are pieces of a bullsh*t narrative.

Drug-users fall ill whilst taking drugs... this would fall into Khan's category of a normal practice in the West!
Occam and all that!

[Wallfire]

What is happing in London now will spread out to other city's, slowly uncontrolled crime and killing will fill GB. Then Khan and his mob will present sharia as the cure. Well come to islamic GB. I cant but think of 1984 (THE BOOK) when looking at London and what Khan has done and is doing.

                   WAR IS PEACE
                   FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
                   IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH 

                   OFFICE OF THE MAYOR OF LONDON

[BIAD]

Ten days after the alleged poisoning, it seems the mainstream media are still at odds with
what they report the Police are telling them and what's really going on.

In a posting above, The Sun displayed a map with a quote below it:
'...Police release a timeline of the poisoned Salisbury couple's final movements as they
attempt to find the source of the Novichok'...'

But there's no mention of a 'red van' or a white Audi car in the Police timeline -or at least,
no mention in the media's reports. It is also coming to light that other people interacted with
Mr. Rowley on the day of the poisoning and yet, they've been cleared of coming into contact
with the supposed deadly material.

One may surmise that this incident follows the same narrative of the Skripal case, two individuals
are initially infected, a Police Officer also takes a hit, but the public seem to have been lucky.

It's true with the Skripal incident that some members of the public went to hospital, but there's
no indication that anyone else came into contact this mysterious Novichok container.
This stuff is certainly choosy!

Novichok investigation moves to Swindon as police seize car.



'A car has been seized by police in Swindon as the novichok poisoning investigation expands to a third area.
It was removed from a residential street in the Wiltshire town, with pictures on social media showing personnel 
in military fatigues and gas masks wrapping a white Audi in plastic film.

Swindon is around 40 miles from Salisbury, where Yulia and Sergei Skripal became the first novichok victims,
and 33 miles from Amesbury where Dawn Sturgess fell ill after receiving what police described as a "high dose"
of the nerve agent.

The mother of three died on Sunday night..
It is thought she and partner Charlie Rowley, who remains in a critical condition, handled a contaminated container
-which police are desperate to find.

"We have arranged the transportation of a car from an address in Swindon this evening in relation to the on-going
incident in Amesbury," said Wiltshire Police. "The public should not be alarmed by this. Those involved have the
training and expertise to safely remove the vehicle."

When asked if the vehicle was being taken to the government laboratory at Porton Down for testing, there was no
immediate response.

Mr Rowley had been a passenger in a red Ford Transit van on the day he was poisoned and this has already been
taken away for testing. Three other men who were inside the van have also been tested but showed no signs of
exposure.

A bus used by Mr Rowley and Ms Sturgess the night before they got ill has also tested negative for novichok.
Police say it is their priority to find the container believed to have been handled by the pair.

The public has been warned that they should not pick up "any strange items such as needles, syringes or unusual
containers". Detectives are investigating whether the Skripal poisonings and those of Mr Rowley and Ms Sturgess
are linked...'

SKY News:

The Sun in it's own antagonistic style, report:

'...Novichok victim Dawn Sturgess wore sunglasses she found in a park hours before collapsing.
Cops are still trying to find a case they think held the nerve agent that killed her.

And investigators are thought to believe the pair stumbled on it in Queen Elizabeth Gardens in
Salisbury, Wilts, where they were drinking on Friday.

Dawn, 44, who died on Sunday, found the glasses there, say pals. Partner Charlie Rowley, 45,
is in a coma.

Craig Pattenden, 38, and Sam Hobson, 29, were with them when they took a bus from Salisbury
to Amesbury on Friday evening. Sam, from Amesbury, said: “She found some sunglasses on
Friday and started wearing them.

“On the bus back she was saying to me and Craig, ‘Do you like my new sunglasses? I found them’.
I think it was in the park.”

Dawn and Charlie were known to pick up cigarette butts.
But it is thought Novichok on a discarded fag [cigarette] from the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal
in March would have degraded...'

The Sun:

The rest is a re-hash of accepted facts and a comment regarding a floral tribute, an emotive angle that
most news outlets pray upon these days.

So now we have a new character in the situation, Craig Pattenden. Could it be that he and Sam Hobson
were the two individuals seen on the off-licence (liquor store) cctv with Ms. Sturgess?

The contaminated Sunglasses Issue.


But that would mean Dawn Sturgess visited the Queen Elizabeth Gardens BEFORE going to the several
shops she and Charlie Rowley perused? The reason being, is that the closed-circuit television footage
in the off-licence shows Ms. Sturgess wearing sunglasses on the top of her head.

'...At around 12.20pm Charlie Rowley and Dawn Strugess are together at John Baker House in Salisbury.
They then leave that venue and visit a number of shops in Salisbury before going to Queen Elizabeth
Gardens...'
SOURCE:

There is another image that has become generic for the media to use where the Dawn Sturgess is seen
wearing sunglasses. And a new photo that implies the woman is sitting in a park-like area -presumably
on a different day, wearing different apparel and jewellery and the sunglasses.



The media combining guesswork with assumptions to keep the story going or manipulation to steer away
from facts?

I'll continue below.

[BIAD]

The web pages of the media are constantly updating and so, more inrformation is being displayed.

I listened to Sam Hobson's comments to the media and on the BBC website the video of Mr. Hobson
explaining what he knew and is shown on a page from Tuesday 5th July.
LINK:

Even ignoring the idea that it may have been recorded earlier than three days after the poisoning,
it's still lax of the Police to allow this person who had frequent contact with the couple over the weekend
to be out-and-about.

Remember, this Novichok sat idle for four months and is still not located.
Allowing this person to be accessable to the media and possibly warn the assumed Russian assassin that
his/her trail has been picked up, could be  seen as irresponsible to some security agencies.
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Hobson explains how he and Charlie Rowley went to obtain Mr. Rowley's prescription at the Amesbury
chemists and then moved on to visit the Amesbury Baptist Church for food.
The same place where he's interviewed and possibly, where he lives.

The fun-fair is not mentioned.

Ms. Sturgess was already in hospital at this time, although the suggestion of Novichok poisoning doesn't
seem to have been a concern then. After leaving the church, Sam Hobson states Rowley left the church
and went home to 'get ready to go to the hospital' -presumably to visit his sick female friend.

Hobson continues that Rowley started to feel hot and sweaty. When added that it was Sam Hobson who
rang for the ambulance for Charlie Rowley, we can take it that Hobson accompanied Rowley back to the
Muggleton Road accommodation.
This is proven when Hobson elaborates that Rowley took a shower, went into his bedroom and then returned
in front of Sam and began convulsing.

So the 'hot and sweaty' comment is connected to the shower comment. Hobson may be nervous in front of
the media, but he seems to hold himself well. It's just his narrative is all over the place, but that's understandable.
The clip is edited as seen by the fade-outs on the video.

Carrying on, Sam Hobson explains that the road was blocked off and the scene was attended by people in:
"suits n' that 'cos they were treating for the nerve-agent thing that was going around in Salisbury"
Hobson adds that the reason might be that 'they' -presumably Rowley and Sturgess, 'went off to talk and must
have touched something and become contaminated the next day'

This may be a lie to cover up a possible meeting with a drug-dealer that Hobson is aware of or maybe it was
a romantic moment between these two vulnerable people. Where Sam Hobson obtained the assumption that
Rowley and Sturgess must have touched something to become contaminated, is something that bothers me.

For a heavy-drinking, dishevelled-looking chap who doesn't work Fridays, he certainly seems to know quite
a bit about the duration between tactile contact of Novichok and it's eventual effects!

Another fade-out and Hobson says "They're still in hospital... they're still there, but they're stable though" and
adding "...They're in an isolation room, there's guards up there... keeping the room safe"

I find Sam Hobson's comments about 'guards surrounding the hospital room' a little alarming.
Why would he have access to such an area where a possible nerve-agent was present and be allowed to report
on the condition of the couple? Is he a f*ckin' Doctor now?!!

One more fade-out and Hobson says "I feel bad, seeing him (Rowley) in a bad way and I've never seen him in
a bad way before in my life. I was panicking, at first I thought I thought it was a gas-leak and wouldn't have thought
it was anything to do with the nerve-agents. But the ambulance [men] were saying it was the same kind of symptoms
as them"

All of this could be he's just a bullsh*ter enjoying the limelight, of course.
It could be that with Dawn Sturgess' illness, the medical team realised she'd been infected with the nerve agent
9 miles away from where the ambulance had picked her up and then receiving a call regarding a sick person at
the same location, put two and to together.

Why the same medical team didn't isolate Hobson is also a mystery.
Yet, it was left to this scruffy young man to announce the report. Also, notice there's no sign of Craig Pattenden at
this point. No mention from Hobson himself that they'd all travelled from Salisbury to Amesbury and obviously, no
mention of discovered sunglasses.

More Beneath.