08-12-2017, 10:34 PM (This post was last modified: 08-12-2017, 11:43 PM by Mystic Wanderer.)
Are we turning into London now? A car plows into the crowd and injures 19... and one dead.
Damn!!
Quote:A car has plowed into a group of counter-protesters at a ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, a TV correspondent on the scene said, adding that there are “extremely heavy injuries.” Video footage taken at the scene shows a damaged light-colored Toyota vehicle and a larger dark-colored SUV at the scene. Update: University of Virginia Medical Center told the New York Times it has treated 19 people for injuries and that at least one person is dead so far.
UPDATE: One of the police helicopters that was monitoring the situation on the ground crashed, killing 2 aboard.
Quote:CHARLOTTESVILLE — One person was killed and at least 19 injured Saturday when a car crashed into a crowd of peaceful protesters leaving a "Unite the Right" rally that officials declared an "unlawful assembly." State officials said the driver was in custody.
The planned rally had already been shut down following bottle-throwing clashes between alt-right demonstrators, counter-protesters, white nationalists, neo-Nazis and supporters of Black Lives Matter.
Angela Taylor, a public information officer at the University of Virginia Medical Center, told USA TODAY that 20 patients were taken there and one died. The conditions of the other 19 were not yet determined.
“I am heartbroken that a life has been lost here,” Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer tweeted.
About three hours after the car crash, the Virginia State Police's Bell 407 helicopter crashed about 7 miles from the scene. Police reports said the helicopter crashed in a wooded area and two people on board died. No one on the ground was injured. The helicopter had been assisting in police supervision of the protests.
The driver of a silver Dodge Charger plowed into one of the groups streaming away from the rally at Emancipation Park through the narrow downtown streets.
08-13-2017, 02:52 PM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2017, 02:57 PM by BIAD.)
Update:
Man charged with murder after car rams anti-far-right protesters in Charlottesville.
'James Fields, from Ohio, arrested following attack at ‘Unite the Right’ gathering, and two police officers die in helicopter crash.
A man has been arrested and charged with murder after a car rammed into a group of people peacefully protesting against a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one person and injuring 19.
James Fields.
Police said a 32-year-old woman had died and that they were attempting to notify her family before releasing more details. Col Martin Kumer, the superintendent of Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail, told the Guardian that 20-year-old James Fields, of Ohio, had been arrested following the attack on Saturday.
“He has been charged with second degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and failing to stop at an accident that resulted in a death,” Kumer said in an email.
Donald Trump condemned the “violence on many sides”, but faced criticism for failing to directly denounce the far-right demonstrators.
In a separate incident, two police officers died when their helicopter, which was monitoring the far-right rally, crashed outside Charlottesville. State police said in a statement the helicopter was “assisting public safety resources with the ongoing situation” when it crashed in a wooded area. The pilot, Lieutenant H Jay Cullen, 48, of Midlothian, Virginia, and Trooper-pilot Berke Bates of Quinton, Virginia, died at the scene.
The deaths came at the end of a day marked by violent clashes between far-right nationalists and people who had come to protest against their occupation of a downtown park containing a statue of the Confederate general Robert E Lee...' SOURCE:
(08-13-2017, 09:39 AM)1984hasarrived Wrote: America has just reached an all time low, in my opinion.
I agree @"1984hasarrived". I am certainly not in agreement with anything that brings violence to the streets of our country during rallies, and I hate to see anyone carrying the Nazi flag that calls themselves being on the "right". However, they do say they are the alternative right.
Maybe these two groups, the far right and the far left, should find a battle ground somewhere and go kill each other.
Just leave the rest of us alone to debate our differences out like adults.
Quote: Police have identified James Alex Fields as the driver of the car that smashed into a crowd of anti-fascist protesters and another vehicle during Charlottesville rallies. Fields faces second degree murder charges for killing a woman and injuring 19 other people. The 20-year-old man was taken into custody following the deadly crash on Saturday afternoon. The suspect has been charged with one count of second degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and one count of failure to prevent a hit-and-run incident.
Although police have not disclosed any details concerning the prime suspect’s identity, media reported that he was the owner of the grey Dodge Challenger, a vehicle that was filmed by the witnesses speeding up and plowing into the crowd of anti-fascist protesters who flocked to downtown Charlottesville on Saturday to oppose a large far-right rally there.
The guy arrested over the car plowing incident isn't even on the record as owning the Dodge Challenger that injured 20 people and killing one in Charlottesville, VA.
The only name as ownership to the vehicle is Jerome Vangheluwe who is the father of Joel Vangheluwe, who claims to own the Dodge Challenger used in an attack today in Charlottesville Virginia on his personal Facebook page. Also remember police in Charlottesville who made this arrest ordered a stand down so the protest or whatever you want to call it would become violent. However it officially looks like the police have arrested a person not related to the incident as this guys name isn't even attached to the car, so what we basically have is a violent Antifa member running around free in Joel Vangheluwe who is a known Antifa supporter by the way. This James Alex Fields subject is simply being used to make it look like a Right Wing attack, when he has no ties to the Dodge Challenger that was used...Unlike the Vangheluwe family who owns the car.
This post is my personal opinion. Call me what you will - "white supremacist", "fascist", "psychopath" - whatever. I give nary a damn what label you try to plaster me with. It means nothing, and only puts your ignorance on display for all the world to see. Your label in no way is able to change immutable fact, and I know what I am - none of the above. Come at me, bro.
No ANTIFA totalitarians were harmed in the production of this post.
Now, with all that out of the way, here's my opinion:
I live not far from Charlottesville, and I give nary a shit about dead and injured "protestors". They got what they had coming to them, and the only thing left is to hand out their Darwin Awards. You put two groups of dumbasses opposed to one another in the same space, and give them ball bats, tear gas, body armor, and helmets, and what the hell do YOU think is going to happen?
"Protestors" take signs, bottled water, and comfortable standing/walking shoes to a real protest. They emphatically DO NOT take arms and armor, which this crew mysteriously managed to produce. Here's a fact of life - if you go to a war zone prepared for a war, you have already signed the bottom line, and you are bought and paid for. I know this for fact, as I've done it a couple of times myself. You DO NOT get to wade into a situation prepared for war, then instigate a war, and THEN claim to be a "victim".
Bull-fuckin'-shit.
So shine up those Darwin Awards, because a few idjits have just earned theirs. I have no sympathy for any of them. As Forrest Gump's mother used to tell him, "stupid is as stupid does". They're not "victims" by any stretch of the imagination, and it's good that a few more have been taken out of the gene pool.
On both sides of this equation (or alleged equation - I've not been able to confirm the "white supremacist" labels yet for certain, but the communists have already claimed their "victimhood"), whenever they open their goddamned mouths, stupid falls right out of them, in torrents. When you put two blocks of stupid on a collision course, it's best to stand out of the way and let them obliterate each other, which is what the cops present did in the beginning. Kudos to the cops - some problems can solve themselves if left alone.
To the woman who was killed - I can't for the life of me see it yet as a "murder", since she was among the instigators (marching with the "Democratic Socialists of America", a Richmond chapter of that organization) - I can only hope that you have not yet been able to reproduce, and have truly been taken out of the gene pool. It's sad that more were not X-ed out, and sad that probably none of the "White Supremacists" got X-ed out, either. We could do with fewer of them as well.
I've lost a little blood, and have friends who lost ALL of theirs, so that freedom and liberty would prevail. That includes the freedom to speak one's mind, which the alleged white supremacists were doing, and had permits (what a ridiculous notion - having to have a permit to speak your mind!). So the communists come along and try to silence them. I can't condone that action - I would be haunted by the dead forever if I did.
Don't like what they're saying? Don't listen, then. Go see a movie or walk in a park far away from the mayhem factory brewing there. that's what I did. It's what I do when BLM holds their traffic - blocking rallies as well. I have no use for either side of that equation, and feel no need to wade into the fray between them. I figure that if I avoid the places where mayhem gets done, I don't have to worry about it splashing over onto me.
You can avoid getting Darwin Awards that way.
I have no sympathy for any of these assholes. None of them. There were NO "victims" in Charlottesville.
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
Quote:The big questions I leave you with is this..
1)who paid for the unpermited protesters to be be present last I checked gas, food, and water are not free
2)what story is being buried
I do not buy this load of crap
Excellent Question and Statement.
Who were the Agitator's?
We know who paid for them to be there and to be bused there.
If you can stand to listen to his scratchy voice, Alex Jones breaks it all down quite nicely in that video I posted. What it all boils down to is Soros and the Deep State trying to get the "left" and "right" all fired up to start a riot, then have that hate spread throughout America using the media until we become a totally divided nation... Civil War at it's finest!
(08-13-2017, 09:15 PM)Ninurta Wrote: ...Don't like what they're saying? Don't listen, then. Go see a movie or walk in a park far away from the
mayhem factory brewing there. that's what I did.
It's what I do when BLM holds their traffic - blocking rallies as well. I have no use for either side of that
equation, and feel no need to wade into the fray between them. I figure that if I avoid the places where
mayhem gets done, I don't have to worry about it splashing over onto me.
You can avoid getting Darwin Awards that way.
I have no sympathy for any of these assholes. None of them. There were NO "victims" in Charlottesville...
Sometimes there are islands of sanity that help to get one's head back in order.
Thank you.
This post is my personal opinion. Call me what you will - "white supremacist", "fascist", "psychopath" - whatever. I give nary a damn what label you try to plaster me with. It means nothing, and only puts your ignorance on display for all the world to see. Your label in no way is able to change immutable fact, and I know what I am - none of the above. Come at me, bro.
No ANTIFA totalitarians were harmed in the production of this post.
Now, with all that out of the way, here's my opinion:
I live not far from Charlottesville, and I give nary a shit about dead and injured "protestors". They got what they had coming to them, and the only thing left is to hand out their Darwin Awards. You put two groups of dumbasses opposed to one another in the same space, and give them ball bats, tear gas, body armor, and helmets, and what the hell do YOU think is going to happen?
"Protestors" take signs, bottled water, and comfortable standing/walking shoes to a real protest. They emphatically DO NOT take arms and armor, which this crew mysteriously managed to produce. Here's a fact of life - if you go to a war zone prepared for a war, you have already signed the bottom line, and you are bought and paid for. I know this for fact, as I've done it a couple of times myself. You DO NOT get to wade into a situation prepared for war, then instigate a war, and THEN claim to be a "victim".
Bull-fuckin'-shit.
So shine up those Darwin Awards, because a few idjits have just earned theirs. I have no sympathy for any of them. As Forrest Gump's mother used to tell him, "stupid is as stupid does". They're not "victims" by any stretch of the imagination, and it's good that a few more have been taken out of the gene pool.
On both sides of this equation (or alleged equation - I've not been able to confirm the "white supremacist" labels yet for certain, but the communists have already claimed their "victimhood"), whenever they open their goddamned mouths, stupid falls right out of them, in torrents. When you put two blocks of stupid on a collision course, it's best to stand out of the way and let them obliterate each other, which is what the cops present did in the beginning. Kudos to the cops - some problems can solve themselves if left alone.
To the woman who was killed - I can't for the life of me see it yet as a "murder", since she was among the instigators (marching with the "Democratic Socialists of America", a Richmond chapter of that organization) - I can only hope that you have not yet been able to reproduce, and have truly been taken out of the gene pool. It's sad that more were not X-ed out, and sad that probably none of the "White Supremacists" got X-ed out, either. We could do with fewer of them as well.
I've lost a little blood, and have friends who lost ALL of theirs, so that freedom and liberty would prevail. That includes the freedom to speak one's mind, which the alleged white supremacists were doing, and had permits (what a ridiculous notion - having to have a permit to speak your mind!). So the communists come along and try to silence them. I can't condone that action - I would be haunted by the dead forever if I did.
Don't like what they're saying? Don't listen, then. Go see a movie or walk in a park far away from the mayhem factory brewing there. that's what I did. It's what I do when BLM holds their traffic - blocking rallies as well. I have no use for either side of that equation, and feel no need to wade into the fray between them. I figure that if I avoid the places where mayhem gets done, I don't have to worry about it splashing over onto me.
You can avoid getting Darwin Awards that way.
I have no sympathy for any of these assholes. None of them. There were NO "victims" in Charlottesville.
This is a bag of worms but a goldmine for the defense
Is the organization insured for all of their employees?
BLM and Antisfa may be in violation of work laws
-no insurance
-no posting required under labor comission
-who is the EEO rep for the NPO
-health insurance regulation violations
-are they registered in the state with the government of the state
-did the organization have the proper permits to protest
This is also a potential gold mine for the family of the dead woman..
Not to mention for the city
It can sue if the NGO is found in state court to be in violation of the States rules..
This post is my personal opinion. Call me what you will - "white supremacist", "fascist", "psychopath" - whatever. I give nary a damn what label you try to plaster me with. It means nothing, and only puts your ignorance on display for all the world to see. Your label in no way is able to change immutable fact, and I know what I am - none of the above. Come at me, bro.
No ANTIFA totalitarians were harmed in the production of this post.
Now, with all that out of the way, here's my opinion:
I live not far from Charlottesville, and I give nary a shit about dead and injured "protestors". They got what they had coming to them, and the only thing left is to hand out their Darwin Awards. You put two groups of dumbasses opposed to one another in the same space, and give them ball bats, tear gas, body armor, and helmets, and what the hell do YOU think is going to happen?
"Protestors" take signs, bottled water, and comfortable standing/walking shoes to a real protest. They emphatically DO NOT take arms and armor, which this crew mysteriously managed to produce. Here's a fact of life - if you go to a war zone prepared for a war, you have already signed the bottom line, and you are bought and paid for. I know this for fact, as I've done it a couple of times myself. You DO NOT get to wade into a situation prepared for war, then instigate a war, and THEN claim to be a "victim".
Bull-fuckin'-shit.
So shine up those Darwin Awards, because a few idjits have just earned theirs. I have no sympathy for any of them. As Forrest Gump's mother used to tell him, "stupid is as stupid does". They're not "victims" by any stretch of the imagination, and it's good that a few more have been taken out of the gene pool.
On both sides of this equation (or alleged equation - I've not been able to confirm the "white supremacist" labels yet for certain, but the communists have already claimed their "victimhood"), whenever they open their goddamned mouths, stupid falls right out of them, in torrents. When you put two blocks of stupid on a collision course, it's best to stand out of the way and let them obliterate each other, which is what the cops present did in the beginning. Kudos to the cops - some problems can solve themselves if left alone.
To the woman who was killed - I can't for the life of me see it yet as a "murder", since she was among the instigators (marching with the "Democratic Socialists of America", a Richmond chapter of that organization) - I can only hope that you have not yet been able to reproduce, and have truly been taken out of the gene pool. It's sad that more were not X-ed out, and sad that probably none of the "White Supremacists" got X-ed out, either. We could do with fewer of them as well.
I've lost a little blood, and have friends who lost ALL of theirs, so that freedom and liberty would prevail. That includes the freedom to speak one's mind, which the alleged white supremacists were doing, and had permits (what a ridiculous notion - having to have a permit to speak your mind!). So the communists come along and try to silence them. I can't condone that action - I would be haunted by the dead forever if I did.
Don't like what they're saying? Don't listen, then. Go see a movie or walk in a park far away from the mayhem factory brewing there. that's what I did. It's what I do when BLM holds their traffic - blocking rallies as well. I have no use for either side of that equation, and feel no need to wade into the fray between them. I figure that if I avoid the places where mayhem gets done, I don't have to worry about it splashing over onto me.
You can avoid getting Darwin Awards that way.
I have no sympathy for any of these assholes. None of them. There were NO "victims" in Charlottesville.
.
OMG All the Liberals That Just Got Triggered,,,,, Oh,,, Wait a Moment,,, Most can't read, they're part of the Liberal-Progressive Education program, "Keep Them Dumb"!