(08-13-2017, 11:34 PM)guohua Wrote: I'll say this,,, The M S M portrayed this as White Supremacists starting the violence. None of them bothered to mention they had a permit to march and were there legally. 
I don’t like these groups, but they ALSO have rights under the Constitution. These People that condemn the marchers are dangerous, along with the protesters that came to stop the marchers, they came armed to fight, the only People that do that are criminals, and they should have been arrested and charged with assault. 
The guy in the car? He’s a murderer, nothing more, nothing less. 
Most People understand these basic fundamentals, but the Media wants to Stir up Anger and make People Unstable, that’s usually what happens when you Dumb People Down 24/7 with Hateful News.

Absolutely!  

(08-13-2017, 09:15 PM)Ninurta Wrote: ATTENTION, LEFTIES:

This post is my personal opinion. Call me what you will - "white supremacist", "fascist", "psychopath" - whatever. I give nary a damn what label you try to plaster me with. It means nothing, and only puts your ignorance on display for all the world to see. Your label in no way is able to change immutable fact, and I know what I am - none of the above. Come at me, bro.

No ANTIFA totalitarians were harmed in the production of this post.

Now, with all that out of the way, here's my opinion:

I live not far from Charlottesville, and I give nary a shit about dead and injured "protestors".  They got what they had coming to them, and the only thing left is to hand out their Darwin Awards. You put two groups of dumbasses opposed to one another in the same space, and give them ball bats, tear gas, body armor, and helmets, and what the hell do YOU think is going to happen?

"Protestors" take signs, bottled water, and comfortable standing/walking shoes to a real protest. They emphatically DO NOT take arms and armor, which this crew mysteriously managed to produce. Here's a fact of life - if you go to a war zone prepared for a war, you have already signed the bottom line, and you are bought and paid for. I know this for fact, as I've done it a couple of times myself. You DO NOT get to wade into a situation prepared for war, then instigate a war, and THEN claim to be a "victim".

Bull-fuckin'-shit.

So shine up those Darwin Awards, because a few idjits have just earned theirs. I have no sympathy for any of them. As Forrest Gump's mother used to tell him, "stupid is as stupid does". They're not "victims" by any stretch of the imagination, and it's good that a few more have been taken out of the gene pool.

On both sides of this equation (or alleged equation - I've not been able to confirm the "white supremacist" labels yet for certain, but the communists have already claimed their "victimhood"), whenever they open their goddamned mouths, stupid falls right out of them, in torrents. When you put two blocks of stupid on a collision course, it's best to stand out of the way and let them obliterate each other, which is what the cops present did in the beginning. Kudos to the cops - some problems can solve themselves if left alone.

To the woman who was killed - I can't for the life of me see it yet as a "murder", since she was among the instigators (marching with the "Democratic Socialists of America", a Richmond chapter of that organization) - I can only hope that you have not yet been able to reproduce, and have truly been taken out of the gene pool. It's sad that more were not X-ed out, and sad that probably none of the "White Supremacists" got X-ed out, either. We could do with fewer of them as well.

I've lost a little blood, and have friends who lost ALL of theirs, so that freedom and liberty would prevail. That includes the freedom to speak one's mind, which the alleged white supremacists were doing, and had permits (what a ridiculous notion - having to have a permit to speak your mind!). So the communists come along and try to silence them. I can't condone that action - I would be haunted by the dead forever if I did.

Don't like what they're saying? Don't listen, then. Go see a movie or walk in a park far away from the mayhem factory brewing there. that's what I did. It's what I do when BLM holds their traffic - blocking rallies as well. I have no use for either side of that equation, and feel no need to wade into the fray between them. I figure that if I avoid the places where mayhem gets done, I don't have to worry about it splashing over onto me.

You can avoid getting Darwin Awards that way.

I have no sympathy for any of these assholes. None of them. There were NO "victims" in Charlottesville.


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Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

(08-14-2017, 02:42 AM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: @"Ninurta" 

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

you're "dumb Darwin award winner"

VICTIM

(08-14-2017, 02:42 AM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: @"Ninurta" 

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

you're "dumb Darwin award winner"

VICTIM

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

(08-14-2017, 03:53 AM)Armonica_Templar Wrote:

(08-14-2017, 02:42 AM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: @"Ninurta" 

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

you're "dumb Darwin award winner"

VICTIM

Time out.. I call BullS#$%!!!

Narrative change time..


She was PROTESTING guohua
not this phrase

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

She was there protesting
Also note the videos 


Please also note, the person accused has NOT been tried

As for the Nazi issue
Peaceful protesters do not carry baseball bats or peppersprey
nor do they BLOCK roads

We need a working definition of Nazi before we can apply the term to anyone
Unless they are card carrying members and provide credentials

It still leaves a huge question
where did all of the outsiders come from
how did they get there
who paid for the protesters

Also note a descrepency

One article says she has a daughter blah blah
another says she lived alone with her dog



This is shaping up to be a post event false flag

(08-14-2017, 04:33 AM)guohua Wrote:

(08-14-2017, 03:53 AM)Armonica_Templar Wrote:

(08-14-2017, 02:42 AM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: @"Ninurta" 

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

you're "dumb Darwin award winner"

VICTIM

Time out.. I call BullS#$%!!!

Narrative change time..


She was PROTESTING guohua
not this phrase

Quote:"She was there with her friends, and she was trying to simply cross the street as the movement was breaking up that day, and she was plowed down by a young man who was intent on spreading hate and thought hate would fix the world," Heyer's mother, Susan Bro, told NBC News. "And hate does not fix the world."

She was there protesting
Also note the videos 


Please also note, the person accused has NOT been tried

As for the Nazi issue
Peaceful protesters do not carry baseball bats or peppersprey
nor do they BLOCK roads

We need a working definition of Nazi before we can apply the term to anyone
Unless they are card carrying members and provide credentials

It still leaves a huge question
where did all of the outsiders come from
how did they get there
who paid for the protesters

Also note a descrepency

One article says she has a daughter blah blah
another says she lived alone with her dog



This is shaping up to be a post event false flag

I'm with you on this @"Armonica_Templar" .

Quote:We need a working definition of Nazi before we can apply the term to anyone

Unless they are card carrying members and provide credentials

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(08-14-2017, 10:29 AM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: Wow...

This was a terror attack. Whether or not people were protesting something is irrelevant. 

And baseball bats & pepper spray? Against a bunch of nazi sympathizers (better?) chanting "white power" with rifles???

Quote:Nazi Germany is the common English name for the period in German history from 1933 to 1945, when Germany was governed by a dictatorship under the control of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP). Under Hitler's rule, Germany was transformed into a totalitarian state in which the Nazi Party controlled nearly all aspects of life. The official name of the state was Deutsches Reichfrom 1933 to 1943 and Großdeutsches Reich ("Greater German Reich") from 1943 to 1945. The period is also known under the names the Third Reich (German: Drittes Reich) and the National Socialist Period (German: Zeit des Nationalsozialismus, abbreviated as NS-Zeit). The Nazi regime came to an end after the Allied Powers defeated Germany in May 1945, ending World War II in Europe.

Quote:The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German:  Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party (/ˈnɑːtsi/), was a far-right political party in Germany that was active between 1920 and 1945 and practised the ideology of Nazism. Its precursor, the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; DAP), existed from 1919 to 1920.

(08-13-2017, 08:22 PM)guohua Wrote: @"Armonica_Templar" 

Quote:The big questions I leave you with is this..


1)who paid for the unpermited protesters to be be present
last I checked gas, food, and water are not free

2)what story is being buried


I do not buy this load of crap

Excellent Question and Statement.
Who were the Agitator's?
We know who paid for them to be there and to be bused there.

(08-14-2017, 09:21 PM)1984hasarrived Wrote:

(08-13-2017, 08:22 PM)guohua Wrote: @"Armonica_Templar" 

Quote:The big questions I leave you with is this..


1)who paid for the unpermited protesters to be be present
last I checked gas, food, and water are not free

2)what story is being buried


I do not buy this load of crap

Excellent Question and Statement.
Who were the Agitator's?
We know who paid for them to be there and to be bused there.

Seriously??

The US is not some banana republic (but is in danger of becoming a dictator state) which needs to pay and bus people in for protests.  I have seen that sort of thing happen in other countries, where I lived, but I doubt that people in US are selling their support for an apple and a free t-shirt, people care about their country and what is happening to it, that is the difference.

(08-14-2017, 09:18 PM)Armonica_Templar Wrote: @"DuckforcoveR" 

We have the first issue with the definition

..........
To be continued

Quote:Pseudo-scientific racism theories were central to Nazism. The Nazis propagated the idea of a "people's community" (Volksgemeinschaft). Their aim was to unite "racially desirable" Germans as national comrades, while excluding those deemed either to be political dissidents, physically or intellectually inferior, or of a foreign race (Fremdvölkische).[9] The Nazis sought to improve the stock of the Germanic people through racial purity and eugenics, broad social welfare programs, and a collective subordination of individual rights, which could be sacrificed for the good of the state and the "Aryan master race". To maintain the supposed purity and strength of the Aryan race, the Nazis sought to exterminate Jews, Romani, and Poles along with the vast majority of other Slavs, and the physically and mentally handicapped. They imposed exclusionary segregation on homosexuals, Africans, Jehovah's Witnesses, and political opponents.[10] The persecution reached its climax when the party-controlled German state organized the systematic murder of approximately six million Jews and five million people from the other targeted groups, in what has become known as the Holocaust.

(08-14-2017, 09:43 PM)guohua Wrote:

(08-14-2017, 09:21 PM)1984hasarrived Wrote:

(08-13-2017, 08:22 PM)guohua Wrote: @"Armonica_Templar" 

Quote:The big questions I leave you with is this..


1)who paid for the unpermited protesters to be be present
last I checked gas, food, and water are not free

2)what story is being buried


I do not buy this load of crap

Excellent Question and Statement.
Who were the Agitator's?
We know who paid for them to be there and to be bused there.

Seriously??

The US is not some banana republic (but is in danger of becoming a dictator state) which needs to pay and bus people in for protests.  I have seen that sort of thing happen in other countries, where I lived, but I doubt that people in US are selling their support for an apple and a free t-shirt, people care about their country and what is happening to it, that is the difference.

Yes, Absolutely,,, Seriously!!
We were so close to a Third World Nation after 8 years of Democratic Plus progressive Rule,, many don't think we'll ever pull ourselves back.
JMHO and I'm Serious!