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Charlie Rowley's full interview with ITV News.

ITV- Wind the clock back to the day that Dawn fell ill and you subsequently fell ill.
What happened that day?

Rowley- I remember waking up that morning. Seeing Dawn…

ITV- You’d been out the night before…and been in the park all day.

Rowley-We’d been out the night before. It was a very nice day. We came back that evening. Had a few drinks.
I say woke up the next morning. Everything was fine, normal. Dawn was talking about finishing dying her hair,
because she’d been dying her hair down by the river the day before.
At some stage, I remember finding a box with a perfume product in.

ITV- Tell me about the box…what was in it?

Rowley- It was a cardboard box which contained a glass bottle, which was a perfume type thing, with a plastic
dispenser lid that you had to assemble.

ITV- So it was a bottle of perfume…had it been open?

Rowley- It wasn’t no. It was all sealed. It was all new. I believe I might have had it for a couple of days.
It wasn’t until that morning I showed it to her and gave it to Dawn and showed it to her and she recognised
the bottle and product as a known brand and I thought I was doing nothing more of it than giving her a gift.  

ITV- So that’s what you were doing, you were giving her a gift. You think you had it for a couple of days
but you’re not sure?

Rowley- I believe so. We were in Salisbury the night before. Everything is a little bit vague.
Where I found it. I believe it may have been in the Salisbury area or possibly Amesbury.
I’m not sure.It was a cosmetic bottle.

ITV- I imagine the police have asked you quite a lot about where you found it.
Have they tracked your steps those few days?

Rowley- They’ve not said any more than what I’ve been able to tell them really.

ITV- Some people have said you have a habit of getting stuff out of skips?

Rowley- I have had a tendency for picking things up, yeh.
You find things of value, yes, some treasures here or there.

ITV- Do you think this perfume bottle may have been part of it?

Rowley- It may have been. It may have been on the side of a path. It would be wrong of me to say I found it in a
place and not be sure.

ITV- You lived in Amesbury and you hung out in Salisbury quite a lot so it could have been anywhere?

Rowley- Yes, exactly.

ITV- So you give Dawn the gift…she’s getting ready. What happened?

Rowley- We sat down. Letting the day begin. We hadn’t been up long. I had showed Dawn what I’d found.
It might’ve been hanging around the flat for a couple of days. I realised…I still have it and I approached
Dawn with it and show her and she recognised the brand.  

ITV- What was her reaction? Was she pleased? Inquisitive?

Rowley- [Takes a sharp breath]. Yeah..at the time it was…I find things and it looked expensive.
It looked expensive. Unfortunately it turned out to be…to be a bad find.

ITV- You weren’t to know that… How long after you gave it to he did she use it?

Rowley- Within 15 mins Dawn said she had a headache. She asked me if I had any headache tablets.
I had a look around the flat. In that time she said she felt peculiar and needed to lie down in the bath.
At the time I thought it seemed a bit strange and I went into the bathroom and found her in the bath,
fully clothed, in a very ill state.

ITV- In a bad way?

Rowley- Very bad. Yes.

ITV- Did you see her spray it?

Rowley- I do have a memory of her spraying it on her wrists and rubbing them together. I guess that’s
how she applied it and become ill. I guess how I got in contact with it is when I put the spray part to the
bottle and I ended tipping some on my hands, but I washed it off under the tap.

It had an oily substance and it smelled it and it didn’t smell of perfum.
It felt oily. I washed it off and I didn’t think anything of it. It all happened so quick.

ITV- You came into contact with what many believe is one of the most dangerous substances on the
planet… A chemical weapon. You had it in your flat. When I say that, what goes through your head?

Rowley- It’s hard for me to comprehend. It’s hard for me to say more.   

ITV- Does it seem unreal?

Rowley- Very surreal.

ITV- You called for an ambulance for Dawn?

Rowley- Yeah, I was in complete shock. I didn’t know what to do.
My first reaction was maybe she’s just overreacting or something. But I could tell it was more than that.
Within a minute I could tell she wasn’t faking anything. She was having a proper attack of some sort.

ITV- Did she respond to you at all?

Rowley- No, I was talking to her the whole time. I couldn’t get any response. She was fading so quickly.

ITV- You called for help?

Rowley- Of course. I phoned 999. It was horrible waiting for the ambulance because it was a brand
new build. It seemed like forever I was waiting for the ambulance to turn up. I felt helpless.
I don’t have great medical knowledge. I was talking to the person on the phone trying to do the best
I could. It was all I could do.

ITV- When the Paramedics arrived, did they have any idea of what they were treating?

Rowley- I thought it might have been something to do with… she had complained of a headache and
she asked for paracetamol and I thought maybe she had taken her own medication that she had at
the time. I thought at the time maybe it was a reaction to the medication she had taken.

ITV- She was taken to hospital…you planned to visit in a few hours…talk me through what happened
in terms of what happened in terms of…you didn’t touch the perfume bottle
you didn’t think that was the source of the problem?

Rowley- In my mind, no. No.  

ITV- You went off and picked up your stuff. Came back to the flat. What point did you pick up the bottle?

Rowley- I hadn’t. The time I touched the bottle was the same time Dawn had touched the bottle.
I had it on my hands and was fortunate enough to wash my hands.

Unfortunately Dawn didn’t. I spilled it. My hands were covered in the stuff. It was an oily substance
with very little odour. It made me think…I didn’t think at the time.

I just washed it off very quickly. I didn’t put two and two together at all. When the police came round...
when I came round weeks after, and the police mentioned a bottle they’d found in the flat, they run
tests on it and I can pretty much guarantee that the contents in the bottle was perfume and it was
nothing to worry about and they run tests on it and I was in complete shock when they told me it
was Novichok.

ITV- You’re in hospital…they tell you it was Novichok…what did you think?

Rowley- It was all too much to take on board. Too much. I was told too much all at once.
It was too much to take on board.

ITV- There aren’t many people in the world who have been in your position..?
What does it make you think?

Rowley- Very little. My heart goes out to the family and loved ones on Dawn’s side.
It’s very hard to process…the whole lot.

ITV- Do you remember falling ill? Do doctors think because you washed your hands, you saved yourself?

Rowley- I don’t know. I don’t know. I must’ve slowed down the process considerably by hours.
It still got into my blood system. It affected me in quite a way.

I don’t remember much to be honest. All I know is what my friend told me who I was with.
Apparently I was stumbling and foaming at the mouth and acting very peculiar and he called the
ambulance and before I knew it…I have no recollection.
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I find this image very odd. Mr. Rowley was recovering in a 'safe house' and only a day after the
interview above was published, he visits the off-licence (liquor store) that he regularly frequents.

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The substance was 'oily', it was an unopened box and it had a spray dispenser.
If it was unopened, then the contents of the container inside cannot be the same weapon used
on the Skripals, can it?
We need Mr. Guohua on this one again!