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Something is cooking...
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(03-15-2018, 08:40 PM)guohua Wrote: @"Wallfire"  &  @"BIAD" 
My husband agrees, he thinks that Putin would be much more Subtle, like a hollow umbrella and air cartridge propelling a pellet the size of a pin head filled with the Poison Ricin.
They normally don't ever attack family members.

That's what I thought. I'm not a big fan of Russia and it's not the first time they've taken
out one of their own in the UK.

Below is one of the few responses from Putin's men.

Quote:'...A Russian lawmaker is suggesting that the nerve agent used on a former Russian double agent
and his daughter in Britain may have been obtained via the United States.

The U.S. was involved in cleaning up a site where the nerve agent, Novichok, was thought to have
been used during the Soviet era.

Novichok, was reportedly tested at a site in Nukus, an isolated city in Uzbekistan, a former Soviet
republic. The United States and Uzbekistan agreed on a cleanup program in 1999.

Russia's Interfax news agency quoted the deputy chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the
lower house of the Russian parliament saying the cleanup gave the U.S. the opportunity to learn
about Novichok.

Lawmaker Alexei Chepa said on Thursday: "The Americans had access not only to the technology,
but had access to its development. In all likelihood, their NATO partners from Britain also had this
access."...'
US News:

Hence, I suggested this is more than just a Russian vendetta. It could be something deeper and an act
for a future enterprise.

And this from The Guardian... who surprisingly doesn't blame Trump this time.

Quote:UK's claims questioned: doubts emerge about source of Salisbury's novichok.

'...The question now is whether all of Russia’s chemical weapons were destroyed and accounted for.
Theresa May –having identified the nerve agent used in the Salisbury attack as novichok, developed in Russia
–told the Commons on Wednesday that Russia had offered no explanation as to why it had “an undeclared
chemical weapons programme in contravention of international law”.

Jeremy Corbyn introduced a sceptical note, questioning whether there was any evidence as to the location
of its production. The exchanges provoked a debate echoing the one that preceded the 2003 invasion of Iraq
over whether UN weapons inspectors had overseen the destruction of all the weapons of mass destruction in
the country or whether Saddam Hussein had retained secret hidden caches.

On social media, there were arguments that the novichok could have come from some part of the former Soviet
Union other than Russia, such as Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan or Ukraine, or some non-state group, maybe criminals.

The years following the fall of the Berlin Wall were chaotic, with chemical weapons laboratories and storage sites
across the Soviet Union abandoned by staff who were no longer being paid.
Security was almost non-existent, leaving the sites at the mercy of criminal gangs or disenchanted staff looking to
supplement their income.

“Could somebody have smuggled something out?” Amy Smithson, a US-based biological and chemical weapons
expert, said to Reuters. “I certainly wouldn’t rule that possibility out, especially a small amount and particularly in view
of how lax the security was at Russian chemical facilities in the early 1990s.”

It took almost a decade before order was restored, in part through stockpiles being transferred to Russia from other
parts of the former Soviet Union and in part through help from US and other western experts.

Novichok was developed at a laboratory complex in Shikhany, in central Russia, according to a British weapons expert,
Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, and a Russian chemist involved in the chemical weapons programme, Vil Mirzayanov, who
later defected to the US. Mirzayanov said the novichok was tested at Nukus, in Uzbekistan.

The former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, who visited the site at Nukus, said it had been dismantled
with US help. He is among those advocating scepticism about the UK placing blame on Russia.
In a blog post, he wrote: “The same people who assured you Saddam Hussein had WMDs now assure you Russian
‘novichok’ nerve agents are being wielded by Vladimir Putin to attack people on British soil.”

A Russian lawyer, Boris Kuznetsov, told Reuters he was offering to pass to the British authorities a file he said might be
relevant to the Salisbury case. It details an incident when poison hidden in a phone receiver killed a Russian banker and
his secretary in 1995.

The poison came from an employee at the state chemical facility who sold it through intermediaries –in an ampule placed
in a presentation case – to help reduce his debts...'
The Guardian:
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 


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