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Evidence that demands a verdict
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(11-16-2017, 05:53 PM)dadmansabode Wrote: Word Origin

C17: from Hebrew 'Elōhim, plural (used to indicate uniqueness) of 'Elōah God;probably related to 'El God




http://www.dictionary.com/browse/elohim?s=t



Elōhim, plural < Father / Son / Holy Spirit

"El" was the name of a Canaanite god, but does translate roughly to "The God". "Elohim" is indeed the plural of "El", and means "The gods". There have been any number of word plays to attempt to hide that fact, but it is what it is. My favorite ploy is the claim that "Elhohim is the 'Majestic Plural' in Hebrew". baloney. it's not a Hebrew word, it's a Canaanite word (but "borrowed" into Hebrew from the Canaanites), and means just what it says.

The bible does not teach a trinity, and in fact teaches expressly against a trinity. The Trinity is a Catholic concept ("confirmed" at the Council of Nicaea, although the original Nicaean Creed had not much to say about the Holy Spirit, and had to be fleshed out a bit later), but the first mention of it (the concept, but not the actual word) is Gnostic, by a guy named Valentinus, something around 100 years after the Crucifixion and resurrection was a done deal. It took Romans, speaking Latin, to put a word to the Gnostic concept when it was adopted into Catholicism. "The Trinity" is an afterthought, preached in error by mortals. It's polytheism masked by verbal gymnastics to try to "explain" how three gods are really just one God. it's a very short step to say "well if THREE gods can all be really just ONE God, then why not ALL the gods ever named - why can they not all be "one" God?". That's a slippery slope.

"Trinity", a Gnostic-Catholic formulation, cannot be used to explain the much older Canaanite word "Elohim".

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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Evidence that demands a verdict - by dadmansabode - 11-15-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-15-2017, 10:13 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-16-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-16-2017, 05:05 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-16-2017, 05:46 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-16-2017, 06:11 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-16-2017, 08:09 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-16-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by gordi - 11-16-2017, 10:06 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-17-2017, 02:41 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-16-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by gordi - 11-16-2017, 06:41 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-17-2017, 03:08 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by gordi - 11-17-2017, 01:22 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by gordi - 11-17-2017, 01:39 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-16-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-17-2017, 03:37 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-17-2017, 04:11 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-17-2017, 04:33 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-17-2017, 10:55 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Wallfire - 11-17-2017, 01:28 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-17-2017, 02:14 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Wallfire - 11-17-2017, 07:25 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-17-2017, 07:33 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Wallfire - 11-17-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-17-2017, 07:49 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by 727Sky - 11-17-2017, 01:07 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-18-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-18-2017, 10:22 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-18-2017, 09:46 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by 727Sky - 11-17-2017, 01:28 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-17-2017, 05:46 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by gordi - 11-17-2017, 06:01 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-17-2017, 06:05 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-17-2017, 06:08 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-17-2017, 06:38 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-17-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by gordi - 11-18-2017, 06:36 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-18-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-18-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-18-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Grace - 11-20-2017, 06:30 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 11-19-2017, 06:54 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 09:54 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-20-2017, 10:22 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 05:25 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 06:29 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 06:55 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 08:30 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 08:43 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 08:50 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 09:16 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Grace - 11-20-2017, 09:47 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-20-2017, 10:14 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 11-20-2017, 10:37 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-20-2017, 10:49 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Grace - 11-20-2017, 11:01 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 11-21-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by 727Sky - 11-22-2017, 01:21 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 12-01-2017, 09:59 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 12-02-2017, 05:38 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Sol - 12-04-2017, 03:02 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 12-08-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by guohua - 12-08-2017, 08:19 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 12-08-2017, 11:40 PM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Ninurta - 12-09-2017, 06:00 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by BIAD - 12-09-2017, 10:05 AM
RE: Evidence that demands a verdict - by Wallfire - 12-09-2017, 01:47 PM

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