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  Hey VeteranHumanBeing
Posted by: Snarl - 06-23-2020, 11:46 AM - Forum: The Welcome Mat - Replies (3)

You entered the site through the wire ... instead of walking past the Welcome Wagon.

You don't get off that easy!!  minusculeuzi

For those of you who don't know her, VHB has an interesting writing style ... like a bat to the face.  I'd recommend making it a long conversation if you want to see her subtle wit, undeniable intelligence ... and human warmth.

Glad you stuck with us during 'the move'.  :minusculehi:

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  Great Song by a Great Band you will LIKELY Never Have Heard Of!
Posted by: gordi - 06-23-2020, 11:27 AM - Forum: The Rogue's Music and Media Room - Replies (23)

I have seen The Red Pine Timber Co play live about 5 or 6 times now.
Mostly in pubs and festivals around the NE of Scotland.
They are one of my all-time favourite live bands who always create an amazing atmosphere whenever they play, and I've met them in person a few times too.

This is one of my favourite tracks from the CD that I bought from them...



I hope that you like it as much as I do!

NOW - What's YOUR GREAT SONG by a GREAT BAND that We've likely NEVER heard of?

G

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  Welcome to Finspiracy!
Posted by: gordi - 06-23-2020, 10:42 AM - Forum: The Welcome Mat - Replies (8)

Hey @"Finspiracy"!

Lovely to see you visit our little Rogue Nation!

I see that you've already found the Shoutbox and a few threads too, GREAT!
Make yourself at home, and if you need anything just ask.

G

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  [England] The BLM Import.
Posted by: BIAD - 06-23-2020, 09:46 AM - Forum: Europe - Replies (27)

The great game of football (soccer for the colonies!) has been brought low by a passing plane sporting
a banner stating something wrong and racist. White people should get on their knees and proclaim
their embarrassment for their skin colour.
I'm sure the BBC would agree.
tinysure


Quote:Burnley 'ashamed and embarrassed' by banner flown above Etihad Stadium during Man City game.

'Burnley are "ashamed and embarrassed" by a banner reading 'White Lives Matter Burnley' that was
towed by an aeroplane over Etihad Stadium during Monday's match against Manchester City.
The aircraft circled over the stadium just after kick-off in City's 5-0 win.

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Burnley and City players and staff had taken a knee in support of the Black Lives Matter movement
moments earlier. "Fans like that don't deserve to be around football," Clarets skipper Ben Mee told
BBC Radio 5 Live.

Defender Mee added: "We're ashamed, we're embarrassed. "It's a minority of our supporters - I know
I speak for a massive part of our support who distance ourselves from anything like that.
"It definitely had a massive impact on us to see that in the sky.

"We are embarrassed that our name was in it, that they tried to attach it to our club - it doesn't belong
anywhere near our club."

In a statement, Burnley said that the banner "in no way represents" what the club stands for and that they will
"work fully with the authorities to identify those responsible and take appropriate action".
"Burnley strongly condemns the actions of those responsible for the aircraft and offensive banner," the
statement added.

"We wish to make it clear that those responsible are not welcome at Turf Moor.
"We apologise unreservedly to the Premier League, to Manchester City and to all those helping to promote
Black Lives Matter.

"The club has a proud record of working with all genders, religions and faiths through its award-winning community
scheme, and stands against racism of any kind. "We are fully behind the Premier League's Black Lives Matter
initiative and, in line with all other Premier League games undertaken since Project Restart, our players and football
staff willingly took the knee at kick-off at Manchester City."

Both Burnley and City were wearing shirts with the players' names replaced with 'Black Lives Matter'.

Reaction
Sanjay Bhandari, chair of Kick It Out, English football's anti-racism charity: "The point of Black Lives Matter is not to
diminish the importance of other people's lives. It is to highlight that black people are being denied certain human
rights simply by virtue of the colour of their skin.

"It is about equality. We shall continue to support the Black Lives Matter movement and the fight for greater equality
for all in football." PFA equalities director Iffy Onuora: "You get that moment of deflation but then there's the positive
reaction since. I thought Ben Mee was absolutely fantastic.

"You feel inspired again. These are uncomfortable conversations but in order to progress, you have to have them.
"In itself, the words themselves aren't offensive, it's the context. It's the rejection of conversations we are having at the
moment and that's what it represents."

Piara Powar, executive director of anti-discrimination body Fare: "Set against the BLM message of equal rights,
'White Lives Matter' can only be motivated by racism and a denial of equal rights. It shows exactly why the fight for
equality is so important and why the majority of people have supported it.

"The movement, the issues that are being discussed and the change that will arise is unstoppable. History will judge
that this was a moment that led to change."...'
BBC:



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  Yes just your Average New Report
Posted by: guohua - 06-23-2020, 07:54 AM - Forum: General News and Events - Replies (3)

Your average news report of lost Prehistoric Ancestors of @"Ninurta"  being located.

Quote:Neanderthal genome sequenced, shedding new light on our prehistoric cousins

Pretty exciting stuff, won't you say @"Ninurta"   smallrofl[Image: getimage_mediaid-1131761.jpeg?ve=1&tl=1]
Just kidding,,, @"Ninurta"  ,,,, Hello Aunty, you look Lost and Confused, missing that Wooly Mammoth Steak?
Proof Aliens Do Exist.
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No, just my imagination.

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  Hi ChiefD
Posted by: guohua - 06-23-2020, 06:50 AM - Forum: The Welcome Mat - Replies (8)

@"ChiefD" 
Hi,,,, minusculehello
Come in and relax.

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Information The Machine Economy: An Essay on the Communication of Value in an Automated Economy
Posted by: projectvxn - 06-23-2020, 05:28 AM - Forum: Computers, Internet and the Digital World - Replies (3)

The Machine Economy: An Essay on the Communication of Value in an Automated Economy 
By Projectvxn/BryanG 


Introduction

In an increasingly automated economy, the future of human commerce will come to a fork in the road. On one hand, we have proposals for Universal Basic Income (UBI) schemes to be paid to all individuals, mandated by law from the proceeds of private enterprise, on a global scale. On the other hand, new technologies such as blockchains and decentralized distributed networks may offer a solution for an automated future. 

As human beings, our labor is what creates a baseline value system. We work to provide for ourselves. In an automated economy, the human being is removed from the equation. Schemes like the UBI are intended to balance the equation by using the force of law to ensure the basis of industry continues to function. All funded, of course, through taxation schemes that require a non-automated industry to continue to exist long after obsolescence. This essay contends that to maintain a global exchange economy, we must automate the exchange of value as well as production; in tandem we would convert humans from a labor force to account holders for all the machines under their individual ownership, ensuring a stake in the economy as automation erases the current basis of valuation, human labor.
 
The Machine Economy: An Essay on The Communication of Value in an Automated Economy 

To understand the future automated economy as viewed in this essay, we must briefly explore the history of money as a technology and how it has guided us from Ancient Mesopotamian barter systems to modern Globalism. 

The History of Money: Communicating Value 

Money, at its core, is simply a method of communication. Prior to the invention of money as a means of exchange, value was transmitted by bartering. This was based on the assessment of needs versus immediate risks regarding trading off valued goods. The exchange of value as a concept seems to be inherent to humans. Throughout history we’ve placed value in many things, some tangible, others not. Perceived risks often drove our transactions, and for many generations, prior to the written word, the exchange of value was essentially the oral contract. However, for our purposes, we will focus on the history of the barter system in civilization. The barter system is an exchange system by which goods and services are traded for other goods and services. This system, while ancient, survives to this day even among advanced economies, though to a lesser degree. Early civilizations, such as the (Mesopotamian) Akkadian Empire used barter systems throughout their lands and with other empires (Arensberg, C. M., Pearson, H. W., Polanyi, K. 1957). Gold currency was typically reserved for those of higher status, whereas the overall trade economy was a complex barter system. The barter system of this Ancient World was sufficiently sophisticated to keep accurate ledgers, however, the accurate exchange of value as an abstraction was still a very new idea. At this stage in the history of money, value was an arbitrary idea based on the labors of humans and animals-divided by their time. It took a certain amount of labor to create a particular item or service, that labor is divided into time. That time is, in turn, calculated against potential risks far more real and dangerous in this era than the economic dangers we perceive today. This laid the foundations for what would be centralized accounting ledgers and denominated currency in much later civilizations.
 
Fiat Currency and Labor Economy 
Money is an abstraction of value. Humans went from the barter system to using items of perceived worth as a conveyance of value. At this point, gold and silver are the predominant forms of currency. But the supply of these metals is finite, and with an increasing population, metals become harder to divide and carry. This led to the Promissory Note. This concept migrated from China where it was first used (Szczepanski, K. 2017-03-08), to Europe where the Knights Templar began to spread the promissory note concept. This normalized the previously controversial idea of paper currency along their establishments across pilgrimage routes from England to Judea (Ralls, K. 2007-04-15).
 
The promissory note was the first paper currency. Despite its gold backing, the promissory note did not derive its value from the gold, but from the value depicted on the note itself. The Gold Standard is based essentially on the promissory note model. It can be argued that even the gold standard was a form of fiat, as there was never any real way to determine the validity of a government's gold and silver holdings. It was the promissory note that denoted the worth of the gold and not the other way around, even if the true value of gold and silver never changed, the speculative value has limits because the supply is finite. This was one of many reasons the United States and most of the world moved away from the Gold Standard, and then widely adopted the Fractional Reserve System in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Fractional Reserve fiat currency is based on mathematics. The aggregate of our production, which is equal to our credit and the faith our creditors place in our ability to pay them back. In this process, the creation of debt and cash go hand in hand. When we add leverage requirements, we get exponential growth, this is an inflationary process, so interest rates are what is used to control excess inflation in the money supply (Quickonomics.com, 2017). The fractional reserve system, and all systems before it, however, still use the labor of humans-- divided by time --as a metric of value (Smith, A. 1776). For this reason, I argue that the exponential growth of fractional reserve banking has a serious problem shared by its predecessors, scaling.
 
The Blockchain 

It is impossible for me to discuss blockchain technology without talking about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a digital cryptographically secured and defined digital asset based on an immutable ledger system. What Bitcoin achieved, was to turn digital information into an unassailable digital property, and make it tradable on the open internet (Nakamoto, S. 2008). 

Its creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, is an enigmatic figure who has yet to be identified. This, however, did not stop him from collaborating with other developers. The original whitepaper for Bitcoin was first submitted to Source Forge, and later moved to GitHub where its source code can be viewed, and submissions made for code adoptions. The first Bitcoin was mined in 2009. Since then, Bitcoin has outperformed gold, silver, palladium, platinum, and every known national currency in value appreciation. It has also given birth, by further development of the underlying technology, to an entire class of currency and economic networking known as the alt-coin market.
 
In this market, Initial Coin Offerings (ICOs) work as a means for start-up technology companies and organizations to seek the funding necessary to build blockchain research and ventures without having to rely on research grants, loans, or crowdfunding (Sherry, B. 2018-01-29). In this way, they can generate capital for the project and return on investment for buyers of their currency, without the need for brokerages or other intermediaries. It is a very risky and unregulated market where money is made but often lost to scams, hacks, and government interventions. Despite this, the growth of the alt-coin market has shown no signs of slowing down, nor has investment in Bitcoin. With exchanges like Binance.com boasting 100,000 to 200,000 new registered users per day (Lam E., Kang S., White, T. 2018- 01-10), cryptocurrency has thus managed to lay the foundation for the 5th and most dramatic change in monetary history, automated communication of value.
 
The Automated Economy and the Universal Basic Income
 
The concerns of economists, politicians, and workers in the 21st century is and will continue to be, how to eke out a living in an economy where robots and algorithms perform all the work (Miller, C. C. 2017- 05-03). Humanity has based its most fundamental economic valuation on the blood, sweat, and tears of human labor. Entire political blocs have risen and fallen under this very basic idea of economic value. But now, our labor is becoming less and less necessary.
 
The concept of technological unemployment was laughable only a decade ago, but today with machine learning, automation, artificial intelligence, and quantum computing making regular headlines, people are finally asking the question, “What will happen to my job?” Automation will affect much more than blue-collar workers. White-collar jobs are on the line as well. Most jobs that require record keeping and analysis, accounting, logistics, materials handling, packaging, transportation, sanitation, and even most police investigation will be automated. In response, some scientific and political organizations have partnered with governments to form a consensus for a universal basic income system. 

The Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a collection of taxes based on profits made by corporations who use AI systems to replace their human workforce, carbon taxes, corporate and capital gains taxes, as well as civil asset forfeitures. Disbursements are then sent from a centralized authority where the money is distributed to national governments (Futurism.com 2017). The UBI would be funded by a pool of money collected by global and national institutions who would then disburse funds to various nations or localities, convert it into a local currency where appropriate, and pay the affected former workers. This would turn all affected human beings into legal employees of their respective governments. If the proceeds of production are to go to a workforce that doesn't exist, then it is only a government that can mandate this. They would have to convert everyone in the country to government employees and pay accordingly, but what does that do to the relationship between our now constitutional government that protects our rights, and a government-as-a-national-employer that reserves the power to restrict the rights of its employees? For the UBI to work, all industry would have to be nationalized, all humans would necessarily become wards of the state, and all private property would then have to be dissolved and appropriated by the state for later distribution. 

It is my view that such a scheme, one that benefits from the taxation of industries and revenue sources that will no longer exist, will be forever in deficits; further, that the UBI as it is known today would be devastatingly inflationary and without a system of valuation by which to maintain stability (Freedman, D. H. 2016-06-13). It violates the rights of individuals to their own inherent and real property. It removes the individual entirely from the economic process when accounting for how long the UBI operates. It appears that the UBI may be a way to pay off those left behind by technological unemployment rather than offer a solution for the inclusion of as many as we can into a new kind of economy. One that allows for the creation of virtual real estate, transferable digital property, and electronic services. 

The Machine Economy
 
Automating the exchange of value, fundamentally changing money to be a means for our machines to transact value, would require that we convert the human owners of these machines into account owners. We can prepare for this today by using personalized blockchain ledger-based accounts with “wallets” hardwired into each device, integrated AI chips like the Volta Tensor Core GPU built by Nvidia (Case, L. 2018-05-07), can facilitate transactions of idle CPU time and surplus energy in real-time. 

Decentralizing and automating digital processing, fabrication, assembly, and service transactions linked to a single ownership account on a blockchain (or blockchain-like technology), would ensure that the owner gets paid and continues to participate in the economy. Decentralized networks and automation in a machine economy would make a cellphone, an electric car, or an idle computer a contributor to the economy, while the person reaps the benefits. With blockchain technology turning digital information into digital property, virtual environment simulations would be able to sell virtual property, create and sell virtual consumer goods and services, and even help create virtual societies in which people may live and work (Ordano, E., Meilich, A. Jardi, Y. et. al, 2013). Concepts like distributed networking and decentralized processing are already in use. For instance, the BOINC system relies on distributed computing for the storage and processing of signals data for SETI and other scientific programs’ observations. If the value of labor is work divided by time, then this can be transferred on to an idle CPU to render a service that benefits the owner (Anderson, D.P. 2002).
 
Distributed networking and processing, machine learning (and other artificial intelligence research), cryptocurrencies, and blockchain in general, are nascent technologies whose potential to fundamentally alter our understanding of economics has not been fully realized. With distributed network systems and new, novel methods of computation, the expansion of human economics into the territory of the virtual is inevitable. We have not yet reached the limit of technological progress, and it may be that no such limit exists (Gelley, B., Vidal, C., Gendler, A. 2016-12-19) Our technological horizon seems to be as elusive as the edge of the observable universe is to the astronomer. For this reason, the question of scaling digital assets and decentralization of production will eventually need to become essential processes in the creation of any machines for public or private use. These machines will have to have these concepts as built-in functions because we will need to create new economies far from the influence of Earth and her laws. I speak, of course, of the colonization of space. Without the scaling ability of automated, decentralized economic models, and the digitized exchange of value concept, human civilization may not survive the vacuum of space. 

The economics of a space-faring human civilization has yet to be truly conceptualized. The colonization of space would, in my view, cause the maturity of the concept of economic decentralization, as any long- term expedition into the Final Frontier would require the extraction and refinement of raw materials, the production goods, application of resources, and all decision-making powers to be independent of the decision-making authorities of Earth. (Smith, C. M, Davies, E. T. 2012). 

Conclusion 

I believe we will not have the luxury of a choice between one system or another. Our technological progress, as demonstrated by this essay, will drag us into compliance. It is impossible to say for certain where this untraveled road will lead, what this future will look like, or identify all the challenges a concept of this scale could face on the road to maturity. But, as we spread into our own cosmic backyard, we will need to address these issues economically, technologically, politically, and even spiritually. There may still be a Great Filter ahead of us (Urban, T. 2014-05-21), a challenge from nature or of our own making. Tackling automated economics today, and how humanity can benefit or potentially suffer from it, will increase our chances of surviving into the next chapter of our existence. 

The question now becomes: If you automate industry and the exchange of value between machines for services rendered, and converted the human labor force to individual account holders for the properties they own that will render these services, then what is the daily relevance of the act of commerce for human beings? The impact of daily commerce for individuals would be minimal. At this level of technological maturity, money as it is understood today becomes not much more than a constantly updated ledger that tracks the exchange of goods and services for the purposes of managing resources in real-time. Our daily lives would be consumed with exploration, education, and innovation without having to concern ourselves with menial tasks or the real threat of poverty. With technology, our labor no longer must be the base valuation of economic activity. Machine labor can now fill this role in both tangible and intangible goods and services. The goal of money, in my view, should be its own obsolescence as we understand it today, changed once again to a simple accounting tool, operating much faster and underlying our lives rather than consuming it. 

References in order of appearance:
 
Arensberg, C. M., Pearson, H. W., Polanyi, K. (1957) Trade and Market in the Early Empires, The Free Press, Glencoe, IL 
Szczepanski, K. (2017-03-08) The Invention of Paper Money Retrieved 2018-2-04 from (https://www.thoughtco.com/the-invention-...ney-195167
How Fractional Reserve Banking Works (2017) Retrieved 2018-02-04 from (https://quickonomics.com/fractional- reserve-banking/) 
Smith, A. (1776) (Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations) NP 
Nakamoto, S. (2008) Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System Retrieved 2018-04-02 from (https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Sherry, B. (2018-01-29) What Is An ICO? Retrieved 2018-02-04 (https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-ico/
Lam E., Kang S., White, T. (2018-01-10) Retrieved 2018-02-04 from (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...-clampdown- concerns/) 
Miller, C. C. (2017-05-03) How to Prepare for an Automated Future Retrieved 2018-02-04 from (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/upsho...uture.html
The Universal Basic Income: The Answer to Automation? (2017) Retrieved 2018-04-02 from (https://futurism.com/images/universal-ba...utomation/
Freedman, D. H. (2016-06-13) Basic Income: A Sellout of the American Dream Retrieved 2018-02-04 from (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/60149...can-dream/
Case, L. (2018-05-07) Volta Tensor Core GPU Achieves New AI Performance Milestones Retrieved 2018-07-10 from (https://devblogs.nvidia.com/tensor-core-...ilestones/
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Urban, T. (2014-05-21) The Fermi Paradox Retrieved 2018-02-04 (https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

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Photo The Thylacine .
Posted by: hutch622 - 06-23-2020, 05:19 AM - Forum: Cryptozoology - Replies (15)

This is as you probably gathered is about the Thylacine or as is more commonly known or more to the point was known as, the Tasmanian Tiger. For those of you who are not Australian or even those that are for that matter here is a picture. If you do nothing else watch the video at the end, it is truly haunting.

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A bit of information from Wikipedia.

Quote:The thylacine resembled a large, short-haired dog with a stiff tail which smoothly extended from the body in a way similar to that of a kangaroo.[33] The mature thylacine ranged from 100 to 130 cm (39 to 51 in) long, plus a tail of around 50 to 65 cm (20 to 26 in).[36] Adults stood about 60 cm (24 in) at the shoulder and weighed 20 to 30 kg (40 to 70 lb).[36] There was slight sexual dimorphism with the males being larger than females on average.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine#...FA-38][37][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylacine#cite_note-FA-38]
This magnificent animal disappeared perhaps forever on the seventh of September 1936 in the Hobart zoo. And for what? Seems this animal had a reputation for killing livestock. Sheep, chicks and the like. A reputation that maybe a little unwarranted. Maybe? Below is a photo later found to be set up.

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Quote:With its dog-like head, powerful jaws and striped body, the thylacine was soon labelled a marsupial 'wolf', 'tiger' or 'hyena', and increasingly demonised as a sheep-killer - although feral dogs and thieving humans were a much greater threat to the livestock industry.
This photo was taken at the same time that calls were first being made to protect them and may have gone a long way towards that not coming about at that time. So a few livestock, maybe, caused there demise .



A part of me wants to believe that somewhere in Tasmania's vast wilderness there are pockets of these still surviving . The other part of me knows this is just wishful thinking . But Tasmania is a large place.
 As of 2016, 52% of Tasmania's land area has some form of reservation classification,  About 42 % by the national parks and wildlife service, or about 27,097 square Km / 10462 square miles. 

Maybe, just maybe.

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  The Thylacine .
Posted by: hutch622 - 06-23-2020, 05:13 AM - Forum: Cryptozoology - Replies (1)

This is as you probably gathered is about the Thylacine or as is more commonly known or more to the point was known as, the Tasmanian Tiger . For those of you who are not Australian or even those that are for that matter here is a picture .If you do nothing else watch the video at the end , it is truly haunting .
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A bit of information from Wikipedia .

Quote:The thylacine resembled a large, short-haired dog with a stiff tail which smoothly extended from the body in a way similar to that of a kangaroo.[33] The mature thylacine ranged from 100 to 130 cm (39 to 51 in) long, plus a tail of around 50 to 65 cm (20 to 26 in).[36] Adults stood about 60 cm (24 in) at the shoulder and weighed 20 to 30 kg (40 to 70 lb).[36] There was slight sexual dimorphism with the males being larger than females on average.[37]
This magnificent animal disappeared perhaps forever on the seventh of September 1936 in the Hobart zoo . And for what . Seems this animal had a reputation for killing livestock . Sheep , chicks and the like . A reputation that maybe a little unwarranted . Maybe ? . Below is a photo later found to be set up .
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Quote:With its dog-like head, powerful jaws and striped body, the thylacine was soon labelled a marsupial 'wolf', 'tiger' or 'hyena', and increasingly demonised as a sheep-killer - although feral dogs and thieving humans were a much greater threat to the livestock industry.
This photo was taken at the same time that calls were first being made to protect them and may have gone a long way towards that not coming about at that time . So a few livestock , maybe , caused there demise .
[video=youtube]http://https://youtu.be/odswge5onwY[/video]
A part of me wants to believe that somewhere in Tasmania's vast wilderness there are pockets of these still surviving . The other part of me knows this is just wishful thinking . But Tasmania is a large place .
 As of 2016, 52% of Tasmania's land area has some form of reservation classification,  About 42 % by the national parks and wildlife service , or about 27,097 square Km / 10462 square miles . 

Maybe , just maybe .

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  Nothing Lasts Forever
Posted by: loam - 06-23-2020, 05:01 AM - Forum: The Welcome Mat - Replies (10)

*knocks, opens door*

Anybody home?


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