A company has secured 38 million to create a real dino from an extinct species that is assumed to have been smart and friendly. They may be correct as many birds will form a bond with their owners in a friendly sort of way. They may have a species within the year; I hope so...
I do wonder if a real dino could live on earth now as the oxygen content of the atmosphere is less than it was 66 million years ago ? I do remember several years ago Jack Horner and others played around with chicken DNA and ended up with an embryo that had teeth and a tail... It did not live outside the egg..supposedly,,, Call it a Chickenosaurus.. If they end up growing and eating people I supposed it would be turn about fair play if you consider the millions if not billions of chickens eaten everyday..?
(09-05-2021, 09:37 AM)BIAD Wrote: What could possibly go wrong?!!
If the Chickenosaurus grows and starts eating people it may be a form of justice when you think about all the millions if not billions of chickens eaten everyday around the world. (Que in spooky music)
Smart and friendly??? If birds are any indicator, I'm not sure this is achievable. Ever hang out with Chickens? Geese? Turkeys? Not exactly the brain surgeons of the animal kingdom. If it moves, they eat it. Even if it doesn't move, they'll eat it. They'll eat each other.
Giant birds (dinosaurs) were contemporary with early humans. The early humans were the ones on the menu. Plenty of evidence pointing that out.
(09-06-2021, 01:50 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: Smart and friendly??? If birds are any indicator, I'm not sure this is achievable. Ever hang out with Chickens? Geese? Turkeys? Not exactly the brain surgeons of the animal kingdom. If it moves, they eat it. Even if it doesn't move, they'll eat it. They'll eat each other.
Giant birds (dinosaurs) were contemporary with early humans. The early humans were the ones on the menu. Plenty of evidence pointing that out.
Didn't they make a movie about this?
Some of the Parrots bond and are very smart as people who have had one knows..Alex the African Gray comes to mind... But yes a Turkey is so stupid he will stand in the rain and look up and drown (sarc)
Now if they make one of the terror bird all bets are off.
(09-06-2021, 01:50 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: Smart and friendly??? If birds are any indicator, I'm not sure this is achievable. Ever hang out with Chickens? Geese? Turkeys? Not exactly the brain surgeons of the animal kingdom. If it moves, they eat it. Even if it doesn't move, they'll eat it. They'll eat each other.
Giant birds (dinosaurs) were contemporary with early humans. The early humans were the ones on the menu. Plenty of evidence pointing that out.
Didn't they make a movie about this?
Some of the Parrots bond and are very smart as people who have had one knows..Alex the African Gray comes to mind... But yes a Turkey is so stupid he will stand in the rain and look up and drown (sarc)
Now if they make one of the terror bird all bets are off.
I agree there are a few smart, personable birds like the parrots. The terror birds? I am guessing not so much.
09-06-2021, 09:52 AM (This post was last modified: 09-06-2021, 09:54 AM by Ninurta.)
(09-06-2021, 01:50 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: Smart and friendly??? If birds are any indicator, I'm not sure this is achievable. Ever hang out with Chickens? Geese? Turkeys? Not exactly the brain surgeons of the animal kingdom. If it moves, they eat it. Even if it doesn't move, they'll eat it. They'll eat each other.
Giant birds (dinosaurs) were contemporary with early humans. The early humans were the ones on the menu. Plenty of evidence pointing that out.
Didn't they make a movie about this?
Yup, chickens are as dumb as a box of rocks. Way back when, many moons ago, back when bell-bottoms were a thing, I had a pair of bell-bottoms that had little brass stars running down the seams at the outside of the leg. Chickens, not being overly bright critters, would flock around me and try to eat those brass stars off my britches. Thought they were grains of corn, I reckon.
On the other hand, I used to sit on the front porch and watch the chickens running around the yard doing chicken things, because chickens just chicken right along. More than once I got the disturbing feeling that I was watching little dinosaurs in action - and that was LONG before birds got reclassified into "avian dinosaurs".
We kept mostly "game chickens", the sort that some folks fight. Couldn't keep 'em in the chicken coop for nothing. No matter what we tried, they would eventually go back to roosting in trees in the woods, and hiding their nests out in the tall grass. Now, with a game chicken, you don't just walk up to it, snatch it up, and wring it's neck. Nossir, when it came time to kill chickens, we hunted them. No lie. I'd tear the outer square cover off of a book of matches, and set it in a split stick in the bottom across the road about 40 or 50 yards away, then shoot at it from the yard with my trusty .22 until I could hit it every shot... because that matchbook cover is just about the size of a chicken's head. Then I'd take that .22 and go chicken hunting.
I mention that because this thread has set me to wondering - do you reckon they'll require a license to hunt dinosaurs once they get 'em into production? Asking for a friend... but I bet they'd taste just like chicken!
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
I wonder about the O2 content as well. It would be cruel to bring back a species that suffered its entire life because the environment today differs from that of 65 MILLION YEARS ago.
09-07-2021, 05:54 PM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2021, 06:00 PM by Ninurta.)
(09-07-2021, 01:37 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: I wonder about the O2 content as well. It would be cruel to bring back a species that suffered its entire life because the environment today differs from that of 65 MILLION YEARS ago.
Would rather see them bring back Wooly Mammoths.
Cheers
I'd have to double check, but I think O2 levels throughout the dinosaur age were comparable to O2 levels of today, although CO2 was higher. The high O2 levels of around 31% were accomplished during the Carboniferous Period, before the Carboniferous Rain Forest Collapse. The climate during the dinosaur age was, however, much warmer than it is today, and that has been true of most of Earth's history. We were a warm planet before the ice ages, which we are still in. "Global Warming" is an attempt by the planet to escape the ice ages and return to normalcy.
Earth has shaken off ice ages before. 750 million years ago, the entire planet, all the way to the equator, was covered in ice in a period known as "Iceball Earth" or "Snowball Earth", but we escaped that after a few million years. Ice ages also occurred at the end of the Carboniferous and into the Permian, before the age of dinosaurs, and we escaped that. Regardless of the global warming crowd's attempts to keep us in this current ice age, Earth will escape it, too. Man cannot defeat nature. Nature is much, much bigger than man.
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
Quote:The research team analysed a total of 538 amber samples from well-known amber deposits worldwide, with the oldest samples being approximately 220 million years old and recovered from the Dolomites in Italy.
The team also compared fossil amber with modern resins to test the validity of the data.
The results of this comprehensive study suggest that atmospheric oxygen during most of the past 220 million years was considerably lower than today's 21 per cent.
"We suggest numbers between 10 and 15 per cent," said Tappert.