09-03-2021, 09:48 AM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2021, 10:27 AM by BIAD.)
If you can get through the constant barrage of 'strong-and-brave-Arden'-shite, The Guardian manages
to eventually relate what happened.
Quote:New Zealand shooting: man shot dead by police after ‘terrorist attack’ in Auckland that injured six
Jacinda Ardern says attack was carried out by a ‘violent extremist’ who followed Islamic State ideology
and was being monitored by police
'An attack at a New Zealand supermarket was “a terrorist attack” by a “violent extremist” who follows Islamic
State ideology and who had been under heavy surveillance by police, prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said.
A man was shot dead on Friday afternoon by police after entering a West Auckland supermarket and stabbing
at least six people, who are now in hospital. The alleged terrorist was a Sri Lankan national who arrived in New
Zealand in 2011 and became a person of national security interest from 2016, authorities said.
Ardern said his ideology was IS-inspired, but he was a “lone-wolf”.
“What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong, it was carried out by an individual, not a faith,
not a culture, not an ethnicity, but an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here by
anyone or any community.
Some Kiwis running for their... oh look! there's Jacinda!
Ardern and police commissioner Andrew Coster said nothing gave the police any reason to believe there was any
further threat or risk to the public. “We have dealt with that person. We know from our extensive monitoring that he
was acting alone,” Coster said.
Under “constant monitoring and surveillance”
The prime minister said she was aware of the man prior to Friday’s attack, and he had been under surveillance for
some time. “By the time he entered the supermarket, he was being watched and followed. The police were with him
at the time this happened – that level of surveillance was being provided because of the concerns that we had,” Ardern
said.
“The detailed reasons he is known to the agencies is the subject of suppression orders made by the court. In my view,
it is in the public interest to hear as much as we can, in this case, I’m seeking advice on what we can do to facilitate
that sharing of information as soon as possible,” Ardern said.
“Of all of the tools that we have, constant monitoring and surveillance is –outside someone being in prison –one of the
strongest we have, and that is what was attached to this individual,” she said.
The man had previously appeared before the courts, but Ardern said “If he had reached the threshold to be in prison,
he would have been in prison.”
“By law, we could not keep him in prison. So he was being monitored constantly, as a result of that.”
The attack is the second terror attack in recent New Zealand history. On 15 March 2019, a white supremacist terrorist
killed 51 worshippers at a mosque in Christchurch. Asked about fears of backlash against New Zealand’s Muslim
community, Ardern said if that occurred, “It would be absolutely wrong.
The community here has been nothing but helpful and supportive, it would be wrong to direct any frustration at anyone
beyond this individual. That is who’s culpable, that is who was responsible, no one else.”
Six hospitalised
Six people were reportedly taken to hospitals around Auckland, three of whom are in critical condition. At least 10 police
cars as well as ambulances were at the scene. Coster said the man had travelled from his home in Glen Eden, to the New
Lynn supermarket, as he had done before.
“He was closely watched by surveillance teams and a technical team to monitor his actions and behaviour. He entered the
store, as he has done before. He obtained a knife from within the store. Surveillance teams were as close as they possibly
could be to monitor his activity.
When the commotion started two police tactical operators from the STG moved to his location and engaged him. When he
approached them with the knife, he was shot and killed.” “The reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24/7 basis,
it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times, but staff intervened as quickly as they could, and they prevented
further injury, in what was a terrifying situation,” he said.
The police acted within 60 seconds of the attack taking place, Coster said.
Panic and confusion
Footage shared on social media show people screaming and fleeing the Countdown LynnMall supermarket.
A witness called Tim, told Stuff he saw an elderly man lying on the ground with a stab wound to his abdomen. Another victim, a
middle-aged woman, was stabbed in the shoulder, he said.
He said: “[People were] running out, hysterically, just screaming, yelling, scared.” “The police came just before I was going to try
and find the fella.” Also speaking to Stuff, Michelle Miller said she was doing her afternoon shop when she saw the attack unfold.
The offender was “running around like a lunatic”, she said. “He was attacking people. All I heard was a lot of screaming.”
She fled the supermarket as police rushed in.
Miller said she heard police ordering the man to give himself up and get on the ground, and said there was a considerable delay
before she heard shots fired. Another witness, Brittany Denyer was about to park when police officers ran up to her and told her to
“hurry up and evacuate immediately”.
She said: “People were panicking, and it was a gridlock trying to get out of New Lynn. Police and ambulances [were] everywhere.
I was told by another police officer while I was waiting to be diverted that someone had been stabbed.
An Avondale resident Michelle Miller told RNZ: “It’s horrific. I feel sorry for the countdown staff, I feel sorry for the people who were
actually hurt here today. My prayers go out to them. The police have done an amazing job. They had the guy try to give himself up
but he wouldn’t. It’s really sad that they had to do what they had to do.”
Miller said she was “pretty shaken up” and that she saw him “running around with a knife, then he just lost the plot”. She did not see
anyone injured first hand: “all I heard was a lot of screaming”. Onlookers were “absolutely beside themselves. They can’t believe that
this could be so close to home. I haven’t seen anything like this happen before.”
Aanya Diveka was among a group of people who barricaded themselves inside the Lynmall pharmacy after gun shots rang out, RNZ
reported. She had been to get her Covid vaccination and heard screaming.
She said people were panicking and upset. One woman was struggling to breathe. There was no lock on the door so two strong men
stood against the door to block it. Eventually, they were escorted out by pharmacy staff out a back exit from the mall.
Countdown Supermarkets said it was devastated by the violent attack.
The general manager of Safety, Kiri Hannifin, said their hearts were heavy, knowing what the team and customers had witnessed.
“Today’s event is particularly distressing, coming so soon after the incident at a store in Dunedin Central, where four people were
stabbed in May”, Hannifin said.
Fatal police shootings are relatively rare in New Zealand – averaging at about 3.5 a year, according to a database of the decade from
2007 to 2017. Gun crime is uncommon in New Zealand, especially compared to other parts of the world. But it has been on the rise,
despite the government’s clampdown on firearms in the wake of the 2019 Christchurch mosque attacks...'
“What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong, it was carried out by an individual, not a faith, not a culture, not an ethnicity, but an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here by anyone or any community..."
Quote:'..The offender is a 32-year-old man — known only as "S" for legal reasons — who has been on the police's radar
for several years, the Herald revealed last month. S was considered a threat to public safety after twice buying
large hunting knives and possessing Islamic State videos...'
(09-03-2021, 09:48 AM)BIAD Wrote: If you can get through the constant barrage of 'strong-and-brave-Arden'-shite, The Guardian manages
to eventually relate what happened.
Quote:New Zealand shooting: man shot dead by police after ‘terrorist attack’ in Auckland that injured six
Jacinda Ardern says attack was carried out by a ‘violent extremist’ who followed Islamic State ideology
and was being monitored by police
'An attack at a New Zealand supermarket was “a terrorist attack” by a “violent extremist” who follows Islamic
State ideology and who had been under heavy surveillance by police, prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said.
A man was shot dead on Friday afternoon by police after entering a West Auckland supermarket and stabbing
at least six people, who are now in hospital. The alleged terrorist was a Sri Lankan national who arrived in New
Zealand in 2011 and became a person of national security interest from 2016, authorities said.
Ardern said his ideology was IS-inspired, but he was a “lone-wolf”.
“What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong, it was carried out by an individual, not a faith,
not a culture, not an ethnicity, but an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here by
anyone or any community.
Some Kiwis running for their... oh look! there's Jacinda!
Ardern and police commissioner Andrew Coster said nothing gave the police any reason to believe there was any
further threat or risk to the public. “We have dealt with that person. We know from our extensive monitoring that he
was acting alone,” Coster said.
Under “constant monitoring and surveillance”
The prime minister said she was aware of the man prior to Friday’s attack, and he had been under surveillance for
some time. “By the time he entered the supermarket, he was being watched and followed. The police were with him
at the time this happened – that level of surveillance was being provided because of the concerns that we had,” Ardern
said.
“The detailed reasons he is known to the agencies is the subject of suppression orders made by the court. In my view,
it is in the public interest to hear as much as we can, in this case, I’m seeking advice on what we can do to facilitate
that sharing of information as soon as possible,” Ardern said.
“Of all of the tools that we have, constant monitoring and surveillance is –outside someone being in prison –one of the
strongest we have, and that is what was attached to this individual,” she said.
The man had previously appeared before the courts, but Ardern said “If he had reached the threshold to be in prison,
he would have been in prison.”
“By law, we could not keep him in prison. So he was being monitored constantly, as a result of that.”
The attack is the second terror attack in recent New Zealand history. On 15 March 2019, a white supremacist terrorist
killed 51 worshippers at a mosque in Christchurch. Asked about fears of backlash against New Zealand’s Muslim
community, Ardern said if that occurred, “It would be absolutely wrong.
The community here has been nothing but helpful and supportive, it would be wrong to direct any frustration at anyone
beyond this individual. That is who’s culpable, that is who was responsible, no one else.”
Six hospitalised
Six people were reportedly taken to hospitals around Auckland, three of whom are in critical condition. At least 10 police
cars as well as ambulances were at the scene. Coster said the man had travelled from his home in Glen Eden, to the New
Lynn supermarket, as he had done before.
“He was closely watched by surveillance teams and a technical team to monitor his actions and behaviour. He entered the
store, as he has done before. He obtained a knife from within the store. Surveillance teams were as close as they possibly
could be to monitor his activity.
When the commotion started two police tactical operators from the STG moved to his location and engaged him. When he
approached them with the knife, he was shot and killed.” “The reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24/7 basis,
it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times, but staff intervened as quickly as they could, and they prevented
further injury, in what was a terrifying situation,” he said.
The police acted within 60 seconds of the attack taking place, Coster said.
Panic and confusion
Footage shared on social media show people screaming and fleeing the Countdown LynnMall supermarket.
A witness called Tim, told Stuff he saw an elderly man lying on the ground with a stab wound to his abdomen. Another victim, a
middle-aged woman, was stabbed in the shoulder, he said.
He said: “[People were] running out, hysterically, just screaming, yelling, scared.” “The police came just before I was going to try
and find the fella.” Also speaking to Stuff, Michelle Miller said she was doing her afternoon shop when she saw the attack unfold.
The offender was “running around like a lunatic”, she said. “He was attacking people. All I heard was a lot of screaming.”
She fled the supermarket as police rushed in.
Miller said she heard police ordering the man to give himself up and get on the ground, and said there was a considerable delay
before she heard shots fired. Another witness, Brittany Denyer was about to park when police officers ran up to her and told her to
“hurry up and evacuate immediately”.
She said: “People were panicking, and it was a gridlock trying to get out of New Lynn. Police and ambulances [were] everywhere.
I was told by another police officer while I was waiting to be diverted that someone had been stabbed.
An Avondale resident Michelle Miller told RNZ: “It’s horrific. I feel sorry for the countdown staff, I feel sorry for the people who were
actually hurt here today. My prayers go out to them. The police have done an amazing job. They had the guy try to give himself up
but he wouldn’t. It’s really sad that they had to do what they had to do.”
Miller said she was “pretty shaken up” and that she saw him “running around with a knife, then he just lost the plot”. She did not see
anyone injured first hand: “all I heard was a lot of screaming”. Onlookers were “absolutely beside themselves. They can’t believe that
this could be so close to home. I haven’t seen anything like this happen before.”
Aanya Diveka was among a group of people who barricaded themselves inside the Lynmall pharmacy after gun shots rang out, RNZ
reported. She had been to get her Covid vaccination and heard screaming.
She said people were panicking and upset. One woman was struggling to breathe. There was no lock on the door so two strong men
stood against the door to block it. Eventually, they were escorted out by pharmacy staff out a back exit from the mall.
Countdown Supermarkets said it was devastated by the violent attack.
The general manager of Safety, Kiri Hannifin, said their hearts were heavy, knowing what the team and customers had witnessed.
“Today’s event is particularly distressing, coming so soon after the incident at a store in Dunedin Central, where four people were
stabbed in May”, Hannifin said.
Fatal police shootings are relatively rare in New Zealand – averaging at about 3.5 a year, according to a database of the decade from
2007 to 2017. Gun crime is uncommon in New Zealand, especially compared to other parts of the world. But it has been on the rise,
despite the government’s clampdown on firearms in the wake of the 2019 Christchurch mosque attacks...'
“What happened today was despicable. It was hateful, it was wrong, it was carried out by an individual, not a faith, not a culture, not an ethnicity, but an individual person who was gripped by ideology that is not supported here by anyone or any community..."
Quote:'..The offender is a 32-year-old man — known only as "S" for legal reasons — who has been on the police's radar
for several years, the Herald revealed last month. S was considered a threat to public safety after twice buying
large hunting knives and possessing Islamic State videos...'
So yeah, someone making the videos supported such an ideology.
Islam is extremism, just read the Quran or (esp. Hadiths). Anyone who is Muslim must submit to Islamic teachings and their prophet when they have enough members in a given population. Once they reach over 10 percent, they become political and push sharia laws on to the public. Eventually they become militant and force conversion or subjugation.
09-04-2021, 03:29 PM (This post was last modified: 09-04-2021, 03:30 PM by BIAD.)
An update about the New Zealand knifeman.
Quote:New Zealand knifeman who attacked seven people before police shot him dead can finally be named after judge scraps gagging order for Sri Lankan refugee who had to be released from prison by powerless authorities
*Ahamed Aathil Mohamed Samsudeen, 32, named as ISIS-supporting terrorist behind attack on Friday
*Police commissioner said he was either 'very clever' or just 'opportunistic' - adding that we will 'never know'
*Countdown and other stores removed knives and scissors from shelves Saturday in response to the attack
*Seven people were injured - including three critically - after five were stabbed and two others injured
*Customers frantically ran inside a nearby pharmacy as police swarmed the shopping centre and shot him
*The man had warned on social media that he wanted to return to Sri Lanka to hunt 'Kiwi scum' in the country
Ahamed Aathil Mohamed Samsudeen
'The ISIS-supporting terrorist who went on a stabbing rampage in New Zealand Friday has been named as
Ahamed Aathil Mohamed Samsudeen. The 32-year-old Sri Lankan refugee was shot dead after stabbing five
people and injuring two others during an attack at the Countdown supermarket in New Lynn in west Auckland.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said he was considered one of the nation's most dangerous extremists and had
been watched 24/7 since 2016, adding she was 'gutted' he was able to carry out the attack despite being on the
terror watchlist.
Countdown and other stores removed knives and scissors from shelves Saturday in response to the attack -while
Police Commissioner Andrew Coster defended the action of officers, who took out Samsudeen within a minute of
him launching his assault.
It came as it was revealed terror police tasked with keeping the 'highly paranoid' suspect under 24-hour surveillance
did not follow him into the supermarket where he launched his attack out of fear of being spotted. Five of the victims
in hospital received knife wounds while one suffered a dislocated shoulder and is now recovering at home.
Three of the hospitalised are in a critical condition.
The victims are made up of four women aged 29, 43, 60 and 66, and three men aged 53, 57 and 77.
The Islamist's identity had been shielded under New Zealand's stringent privacy laws after a High Court judge ruled
the knifeman's family must have at least 24 hours 'to seek a suppression order' - which ran out at 9pm local time.
Authorities revealed Samsudeen moved to the New Zealand in October 2011 and was granted refugee status two
years later - which authorities sought to revoke in 2018 following terror-related convictions.
However Samsudeen appealed and a final decision on whether he should be deported had yet to be made, reported
the New Zealand Herald. Despite fears he had been planning a terror attack, courts previously ruled he could only be
convicted of lesser charges of possessing ISIS propaganda, resulting in a reduced jail sentence - despite police
knowing he was 'extremely dangerous' and 'very likely to carry out an attack'.
Samsudeen previously posted a warning to 'Kiwi scums' on social media after receiving a formal warning from police
over his disturbing internet searches and purchases.
'One day I will go back to my country and I will find Kiwi scums in my country... and I will show them... what will happen
when you mess with S while I'm in their country. If you're tough in your country... we are tougher in our country scums
#payback,' he wrote.
He landed himself on the terror watchlist in 2016 after twice buying hunting knives and being found to possess Islamic
State propaganda videos. After receiving an official warning from police over his internet search history and purchases,
Samsudeen continued to consume extremist content online.
In May 2017, he was arrested at Auckland International Airport after booking a one-way ticket to Singapore.
A subsequent search of his apartment uncovered weapons and images of him posing with an air rifle and hunting knife.
He was held in custody without bail for more than a year and eventually pleaded guilty to distributing restricted material.
A High Court judge sentenced him to supervision in 2018 because of the amount of time he had already spent in prison.
The day after he walked free from prison in 2018, Samsudeen purchased yet another hunting knife. He was arrested again,
but was not prosecuted under the liberal country's terrorism laws, which police, politicians and judicial officials have long
criticised are not fit for purpose...'
- this guy was a lone wolf. An individual. Not a faith. Not a culture. Not an ethnicity. Not supported by any community. A single person. But the last terror attack was a "white supremist". Definitely an ethnicity and probably a community or culture for some. I wonder what the difference is?
- He was on the terror watch list since 2016. He was under constant surveillance. Video and human. Yet he was able to stab a whole pile of people before the iron grip of state authority could get to him. So tell me, what is the point of all the state surveillance and what-not if it doesn't protect people at the most critical point?
- I heard he had an awesome knife collection. Bought a good one the day after he was let out of jail. Of course he was immediately arrested again but they let him go. Don't want to offend anybody I guess?
- they removed knives and scissors from the store shelves as a precaution afterwards? Like, after the horse had left the barn. After the fat lady sang. Just in case he rises from the dead and tries the same thing at the same store again?
PITA PIV: There is a point after which the state can no longer legislate safety of/for the populace. But this does not stop the boot-on-throat evangelicals in office. One more law will make more laws unnecessary. One less freedom for the people will give the people more freedom. In this case, the people of New Zealand bore the brunt of always being treated like a possible criminal yet they were not protected from an actual criminal. And they paid the price for it. Meanwhile, the state delivers cowardice word salad as an excuse.
