[France] Honestly... It Wasn't An Anti-Semitic Killing!

[BIAD]

The one thing you can guarantee from The Guardian news-outlet is that if there's a way of spinning a story
away from the 'Muslim-thing', they'll show it!

If you were in a drug-ridden haze and decided to visit someone you'd never met before at 4.am, then conclude
that the best-thing was to beat the crap out of the person and finally throw her from her own balcony...
what words would you cry out?

Protests in France as man who killed Jewish woman avoids trial



Decision not to try Kobili Traoré over 2017 killing of Sarah Halimi, 65, has provoked international outrage

'Hundreds of protesters have rallied in Paris and across France after the killer of a Jewish woman was
declared unfit to stand trial because he was judged to have suffered a psychotic episode caused by
cannabis use.

Kobili Traoré is accused of beating 65-year-old Lucie Attal – better known as Sarah Halimi – and throwing
her from the balcony her Paris apartment in 2017. French courts have recognised the killing as an antisemitic
crime but declared that 32-year-old Traoré, currently in a psychiatric hospital, could not be tried as he was in
the grip of a drug-induced “delusional fit” and not in control of his actions.

The decision made 12 days ago by France’s highest court, the cour de cassation, to uphold the ruling has
prompted anger among Halimi’s family and the wider community.

The family described the decision as an “injustice”; her sister Esther Lekover announced after the court’s decision
that she would bring a separate legal case in Israel, where she lives. Demonstrations were organised in Paris,
Bordeaux, Marseille, Lyon, Strasbourg and Nice, as well as in Rome, Tel Aviv, London, Los Angeles, Miami and
New York.

Frank Tapiro, a political communications expert who organised the Paris rally, said protesters wanted justice.
“We want a trial whatever the outcome. [Traoré] chose to smoke cannabis. The experts made their reports,
but the judges are not obliged to accept them.
This problem affects all French people, not just the Jewish community,” Tapiro told BFM TV.

Traoré entered Halimi’s apartment at 4am on 4 April 2017 while she was asleep. He allegedly beat her while crying
“Allahu Akbar” and reciting Quranic verses, before throwing her over the balcony of her third-floor council flat in the
11th arrondissement of Paris where she had lived for 30 years.

Neighbours told police they heard Traoré shout “I killed the sheitan” – the Arabic word for “devil” – from Halimi’s balcony.

Traoré later told investigators he knew Halimi was Jewish but denied his actions were antisemitic, saying he had acted
while in a psychotic episode triggered by cannabis. It took 10 months and an outcry from Jewish organisations for French
authorities to accept an element of antisemitism in the killing of the retired doctor and nursery director.

François Molins, the general prosecutor at the cour de cassation, denied the justice system had been too lax in the Halimi
case. “Of course the legal system isn’t giving anyone permission to kill,” Molins told Le Monde.

The cour de cassation confirmed the antisemitic nature of the crime, but upheld earlier court decisions that it was impossible
to try Traoré for murder because his heavy cannabis use meant he was not in his right mind at the time.
According to five out of seven psychiatric experts who examined him, Traoré was in the grip of a “delusional fit” when he killed
Halimi.

Emmanuel Macron has called for a change of law. On Sunday, the justice minister, Éric Dupond-Moretti, issued a statement
saying new legislation to allow courts to consider whether an accused had “voluntarily taken toxic substances … leading to a
loss of responsibility” would be presented to parliament at the end of May...'

Archived Guardian Article:

[F2d5thCav]

A society in dramatic decline.  Poor woman.

Cheers

[ABNARTY]

So... smoking dope, a completely self imposed situation, is now cause for 'mentally unfit for trial'. 

How many people committing crimes throughout the history of humanity, have committed those crimes while under the influence of drugs or alcohol? Most of them?!?!

It's really weird that we have a murder, yet the issue is the tightrope between anti-semitic and anti-muslim perception.

[BIAD]

Another case of 'just-one-of-those-things' when a kindly Catholic Priest meets an illegal immigrant.
9th August 2021.

Suspect hands himself in after Catholic priest murdered in France

'French prosecutors opened an investigation into "voluntary manslaughter" on Monday after a Catholic priest
was murdered in the western region of Vendée.


Suspect Emmanuel Abayisenga and Father Olivier Maire.

"No terrorist motive" appears in the case, Vice-Prosecutor Yannick Le Goater told reporters after the suspect,
who handed himself to police, was placed in custody. The suspect, Emmanuel Abayisenga, was already under
investigation for setting a fire to the Cathedral of Nantes where he worked as a volunteer a year ago, Interior
Minister Gérald Darmanin said.

He had been placed in detention before being released under judicial supervision.
Darmanin added that the suspect "testified (to gendarmes) that he killed the priest."
The minister expressed "all his support to the Catholics of our country" and said he was headed to the site in
Saint-Laurent-sur-Sèvre.

The priest, aged 61, had been hosting the suspect for "several months," a police source said.
"On behalf of the Nation, I pay tribute to Father Olivier Maire," President Emmanuel Macron tweeted after hailing
the clergyman's "generosity." "Protecting those who believe is a priority," Macron added.

Reached by Euronews, the French anti-terror prosecutor's office said the "facts did not seem to be of a terrorist nature."
Several opposition politicians slammed the government's alleged "failure" after the tragedy.
Abayisenga had been refused political asylum in France after living in the country since 2012.

Far-right leader Marine Le Pen tweeted: "So in France, it's possible to be an illegal immigrant, to set fire to the cathedral
of Nantes, never to be expelled, and to re-offend by murdering a priest."
Darmanin said the suspect was not deportable while he was still under judicial supervision and accused Le Pen of
"arguing without knowing the facts."...'

Archived EuroNews Article:

[Ninurta]

If you were in a drug-ridden haze and decided to visit someone you'd never met before at 4.am, then conclude
that the best-thing was to beat the crap out of the person and finally throw her from her own balcony...
what words would you cry out?

"Remember the Alamo!"


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[Ninurta]

So... smoking dope, a completely self imposed situation, is now cause for 'mentally unfit for trial'. 

How many people committing crimes throughout the history of humanity, have committed those crimes while under the influence of drugs or alcohol? Most of them?!?!

It's really weird that we have a murder, yet the issue is the tightrope between anti-semitic and anti-muslim perception.

The part that really gripes my ass is this one:

French courts have recognised the killing as an antisemitic crime but declared that 32-year-old Traoré, currently in a psychiatric hospital, could not be tried as he was in the grip of a drug-induced “delusional fit” and not in control of his actions.

My ass.

I've known a lot of pot smokers in my day, but never have met one that it caused to go violently psychotic. Furthermore, even if he WAS psychotic on reefer, he was STILL in control of his actions and is responsible for them. That control and responsibility traces right back to the instant he fired that bowl up. That is the precise point where he started "controlling his actions", and all subsequent actions dependent thereon. No one forced him to - HE is entirely and completely responsible all on his own.

Responsibility, not lame excuses.

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[Ninurta]

Another case of 'just-one-of-those-things' when a kindly Catholic Priest meets an illegal immigrant.
9th August 2021.

Far-right leader Marine Le Pen tweeted: "So in France, it's possible to be an illegal immigrant, to set fire to the cathedral
of Nantes, never to be expelled, and to re-offend by murdering a priest."
Darmanin said the suspect was not deportable while he was still under judicial supervision and accused Le Pen of
"arguing without knowing the facts."...'
Archived EuroNews Article:

Yeah.

Right.

It appears that French judicial "supervision" is a little slack, and might need some supervision of it's own, if the guy can still go around killing citizens while on it...


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[F2d5thCav]

@"Ninurta" 

He was traumatized because France had at one point colonized his homeland ...

OH WAIT ...

Rwanda was colonized by Belgium, not France.

Exculpation FAIL 

Cheers

[BIAD]

If you were in a drug-ridden haze and decided to visit someone you'd never met before at 4.am, then conclude
that the best-thing was to beat the crap out of the person and finally throw her from her own balcony...
what words would you cry out?

"Remember the Alamo!"

I remember the 'Alle-mo'... I saw it once in London, in Leicester Square...