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By the progressive liberal Democrat population ? I give you this...
Disclaimer ...noun
- a statement that denies something, especially responsibility.
Will this fall victim just as nearly every freedom has been, is being, attacked by these mal-contents.
AGAIN, be careful what you wish for.
Text of the First Amendment
” Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the Freedom of Speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
So as they try to dictate speech and what is allowable, will the claim of non-responsibility or Disclaimer also be examined and found unconstitutional..?
Oh boy can you hear the floodgates of Attorneys flock like vultures..? Will disclaimers rightly fail to have any power to protect, justly or unjustly. It's apparent that they are self serving and for one purpose only. Purveying their product regardless of it's possible adverse effects on the customer or population using their offerings.
RESPONSIBILITY the key word here. Think about. As pawns to Corporations, to be discarded when finished with.
It's time to call out manufacturers and makers.......... Should there be reparations for pain, suffering and grievances ya Think ?
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To CLARIFY, I think Disclaimers are despicable, and are also not like instructions. Do not confuse the two
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03-13-2021, 07:18 PM
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They are obeying the letter of the Constitution while violating the spirit of it, a fine line to walk. They do this by employing non-governmental minions like Facebook and Amazon to police the speech that government finds distasteful. Thus, it is corporations screwing with free speech, not Congress, and so the letter of the law is observed while it's spirit is repeatedly and forcefully violated.
In the old days, that sort of "public-private partnership" was the very definition of fascism... but that was before the communists misappropriated the term and changed it to mean whatever they wanted it to mean that particular day. Most recently, "fascism" is used by the Leftists to mean anything to the Right of Stalinism, but that was not originally the case. Fascism, as defined, was inherently LEFT, not Right. See, for example, Mussolini and Fascist Italy for practical examples and root definitions.
So, I have taken to rejecting any and all "news" gained from social media as inherently propagandistic, given the fascist tendencies of this government that are making hard use of corporate minions to perpetrate the crimes. I have also given up on corporate media for "news", and that includes Fox. The day that Neil Cavuto cut Kaley Macinerney off in mid sentence, simply because she was telling uncomfortable truth, was the last time I relied on Fox to provide impartial news. That single action gave a practical demonstration that even Fox cannot be relied upon.
And Amazon. Severing all connections with Amazon hurt me bad, but there is no gain without pain, and I am better off now for not doing business with them any more. That breakup was necessitated by their deplatformization of Parler. I do not use Parler, CANNOT use Parler - they will not allow me to create an account there, but I still feel strongly that all voices should be heard whether I agree with them or not. Silencing political opponents is not something a free country allows, no matter what they have to say. A free country would not allow Amazon to capriciously deplatform Parler if they are still providing web services to others... yet this government not only allowed it, they encouraged it.
You counter distasteful opinions and propaganda with facts and logic, not by simply silencing them. Simply silencing them is a tacit admission that they are right, you are wrong, and you have no cogent and viable counter argument against their Truth... therefore, they must be silenced rather than countered, because you are incapable of countering them.
This is how we can be certain that we no longer live in a free nation. America is no longer the Land of the Free, and it may no longer be the Home of the Brave, either. The next year or so will tell whether that is still the case or not.
All nations have a life cycle and a life span, just as organisms do. Ours appears to have died young. Rome lasted a thousand years. We barely made it 250. If a normal national lifespan is taken as 1000 years, and equated to the human lifespan of 80 years or so, the US died at the tender young age of about 20. Too young.
Mourn the passing of the United States of America, and hail the new replacement, the American Federal Empire.
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Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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Yep..... to all you say. And we do seem to be re-living the time a bit before and after Caligula. Rome projects so much... of what 'to' do and what 'not to' do. There are a great many parallels in our story and theirs.
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Mind you, I'm not keen on your Last sentence ......lol, but there lies a great deal of truth within it.
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03-13-2021, 09:24 PM
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(03-13-2021, 08:40 PM)PLOTUS Wrote: Mind you, I'm not keen on your Last sentence ......lol, but there lies a great deal of truth within it.
The last sentence - the United State used to be... United States. The power resided in the states, and they were in a union of convenience, with the Federal government limited to settling disputes between states, regulating actual commerce between states, controlling the common money supply, and presenting a united front in matters of foreign policy, mostly trade but occasionally war. That was demonstrated in the war against the Barbary Pirates under Jefferson. For the most part, in matters of war, we avoided foreign entanglements unless there just was no avoiding them - the Barbary Pirates, the war with Mexico, the invasion of Canada during the War of 1812, all were results of attacks on, or invasions of, the United States.
It was in the aftermath of the Civil War, during "Reconstruction", when things started going off the rails, and the Federal government started seizing power from the states. The Spanish American War, and invasion of Cuba, for example, were just plain pure foreign adventurism, without any real provocation. That was when wars of aggression rather than wars of defense started for America. That was down to Federal muscle-flexing, rather than any sort of actual defensive action.
Further power was eroded from the states when the election of Senators was seized from the state governments and given to a popular vote. That is not how it was set up to be, in the beginning. Senators were originally appointed by state governments, and their function was to represent state's interests. The House of Representatives were elected by the People, and their function was to represent the interests of the People. In that way, the interests of all parties involved in the Constitution were represented, and balanced. Further erosion of State power and representation occurred when the Senate elections were given over to popular voting - then one single party to the constitutional compact had ALL the say... more, so it seemed.
That's how it works, you know. First consolidate all the power in one centralized location, then seize that power from that location for yourself.
The Federal government then kept on seizing more and more power, and removing power from states. It got to the point that the Federal government started seizing power on how states' internal affairs were ran by such stratagems as invoking the Commerce Clause to regulate purely internal matters of states, matters that had nothing to do with interstate commerce. That occurred during the racial strife of the 1960's. Racial strife has been good to the Federal government (starting with the Civil War), and their seizure and centralization of consolidated power. It's no surprise they are making use of the same strategem again.
The Feds instituted a Federal income tax to seize wealth from the populace and the states, and then started using that money to buy further influence in states - "we ain't giving you any of YOUR OWN money back unless you do as we say" after having seized that money in the first place.
Around the same time, the Federal Reserve was created, which is not "federal" at all - it is a group of private banks, not a governmental agency of any sort, yet it controls our money supply, which is a responsibility the Constitution delegates to the Federal government alone, not private interests. That was when the Fascism started creeping in to the Federal government, the original "public-private partnership" that gave private corporations defacto power over private citizens' lives, with the citizens having no say in the matter whatsoever.
Now they are further eroding state power by asserting that they have some kind of right - and this notion is directly against the provisions of the Constitution, a direct violation of it - to regulate how states run elections, despite the Constitutional provision that ONLY states have the power to run their own elections.
They are placing the final nail in the coffin of the states' rights, and seizing power from the People now for themselves. The election rigging is the canary in the coal mine for that power grab. They insist on running elections and taking power to do so from the states so that they can more easily rig future elections Federally, removing the actual power of the vote from the hands of the People, and will then never have to give up their power.
They are circumventing Constitutional provisions of the assurance of our Rights by making fascistic use of corporations to do the dirty work of violating them, albeit with federal blessings, to eliminate the First Amendment. They are flat out ignoring the Second Amendment in an effort to disarm the People to prevent uprisings when the People finally figure out what is going on. The aim appears to me to be centralization of all power in the Federal regime, and seizure of that power from all other parties to the Constitution.
A Totalitarian Dictatorship under the Marxist rule of the Democrat party as proxies for the CCP, who were quick to notice the seizure and centralization of power by the Federal government, and who them cut to the chase by assisting the Marxist Fellow Travelers in the DNC in seizing the Federal government and consolidating all that power under a One Party Rule, and buying or blackmailing key Democrats to insure that the power flows through Beijing in the final analysis.
So, from my perspective, there truly is no longer a "United States", and it has become, in all but name, an "American Federal Empire".
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Anything in particular bring this on? Honestly asking.
You didn't outright mention anything but the C19 vaccines come to mind for me.
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03-14-2021, 07:25 AM
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(03-14-2021, 04:28 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: Anything in particular bring this on? Honestly asking.
You didn't outright mention anything but the C19 vaccines come to mind for me.
Everything. COVID-19 is nothing but a Trojan Horse. the vaccines are the trap door in it's belly, the hatch that lets the enemy inside the walls. Masks are your badge of honor, the sign of a good little slavish citizen who is obedient. They will save you from nothing but the tyrant's sword. Tyranny always needs some good obedient slaves. They won't kill those.
They're gonna have to kill me, but I won't be going out of this world alone.
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Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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Have to wonder who is paying big international companies to act like government(s) ?
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(03-14-2021, 06:56 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Have to wonder who is paying big international companies to act like government(s) ?
We are. We are the livestock they are raising and herding. As long as we allow them to milk us dry and slaughter us wholesale, they will continue to do so, and to herd us like cattle.
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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
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