H.R. 127 and your guns

[727Sky]

31 Jan 2021
H.R. 127
BY Herschel Smith
1 day, 2 hours ago
The text of bill H.R. 127 is up, and boy is it a doozey.  It’s the entire package of awfulness the controllers have wanted forever.
So here are some takeaways for this bill, but I’ll link the FPC summary momentarily.
Federal registration of all firearms.
A national gun registry.
Limitations on types of firearms.
Federally mandated insurance, expensive, and managed by the FedGov (some $800 per year).
Psychological evaluations by state-approved psychologists for approval to purchase firearms.
Those evaluations are extended to family members (including former spouses).
Prohibition of person-to-person transfers.
Prohibition of standard capacity magazines.
From the FPC.

Summary: Establishes a nationwide gun registry that is searchable by the general public, mandates licensing to own or possess a firearm and requires a psychological evaluation prior to obtaining such a license, and institutes magazine & gun bans. 
The bill text is finally out and HR 127 is worse than we were even speculating.
HR 127 establishes a federal firearms registration system that will be accessible by federal, state, and local governments, including the military – even the GENERAL PUBLIC! The system will track the make, model, and serial number of all firearms, their owners, the dates they were acquired, and where they are being stored.
You read that right. HR 127 would make public your most private information to anti-gunners who can then dox, harass or even attack you while knowing full well every intimate detail of your self-defense systems. 
The system will also track firearms loans, including the ID of the loan recipient and for how long it is being loaned. This bill applies retroactively, so current firearms owners will have three months to supply their gun information to the federal government from the bill’s effective date.
HR 127 also establishes a federal licensing requirement. Applicants will have to be at least 21, undergo a NICS check, complete a psychological evaluation, complete 24 hours of firearms training, and pay $800 for firearms insurance from the government.
TRANSLATION: You not only have to PAY the government for the privilege of owning guns already in your possession; you also have to convince an anti-gunner that you deserve to keep your rights!
For the psychological evaluation, a licensed psychologist will interview individuals’ spouses and at least two other family members or associates to “further determine the state of the mental emotional, and relational stability of the individual in relation to firearms.” Licenses will be denied to individuals hospitalized for issues such as depressive episodes; no duration for license disability is specified, and it does not matter whether the individual sought help voluntarily.
And who gets the say in whether you can exercise your fundamental rights: the Attorney General, who will in all likelihood be Merrick Garland – an anti-gun extremist previously nominated to the Supreme Court by Barack Obama.
HR 127 will also establish licensing requirements for the display of antique firearms and for the right to possess “military-style weapons.” To display an antique, applicants have to prove they own an antique firearm, describe how they will display it, and demonstrate that they have “safe” storage for it. To possess a “military-style weapon”, applicants will have to undergo 24 hours of safety and live fire training. It is unclear whether this training is in addition to the base 24 hours of training required to possess firearms and ammunition. “Military-style weapons” are defined as they are under assault weapons bans like those in California and New Jersey – weapons are identified by name or because they possess two or more features found on commonly owned, modern semiautomatic firearms such as an adjustable stock, pistol grip, etc.
Finally, HR 127 also criminalizes the possession of “large-capacity magazines” (those carrying greater than 10 rounds) and “ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.”
Presently, there is no grandfathering clause in this legislation. Meaning you will have to choose between keeping your magazines and being fined and sent to prison.. potentially for decades!
Importantly, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to comply with this legislation. The bill doesn’t even specify how any of these measures will be implemented. Instead, it tasks the Attorney General with creating systems for enforcement while still holding gun owners to ironclad compliance dates.

Reddit/Firearms is discussing this here, here, here, here and here.
I suspect one of the intended consequences of this legislation is that there would be massive noncompliance.  Larger manufacturers like Daniel Defense and Aero Precision would undergo large layoffs and cutbacks, while smaller manufacturers would simply go out of business.
Merely purchasing a firearm from an FFL would involve FedGov paperwork, and noncompliance will involve not purchasing from an FFL.  This would have a large effect on the firearms market – again, all intended.
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Comments

1. On January 31, 2021 at 10:00 pm, Scottosan said:
   This is just as bad as the British marching on Lexington and Concorde
   
2. On January 31, 2021 at 10:49 pm, Ned2 said:
   All of a sudden, 140 million gun owners went boating last weekend.
   
3. On February 1, 2021 at 7:29 am, redclay7 said:
   Well, the powers that currently be are demanding the moon and are waiting to see what – or who or how much we will give up in order to keep from being penalized for what we own and who we are. It all adds up to ‘We Don’t Trust You’ writ large and this, in my opinion, will be that line we all were hoping would not be drawn in our lifetimes. This is not just business as usual – it is personal. This cannot be ignored and thinking the NRA will do its job and we will be left alone once again. At least the left’s goal is out in the open now. That’s what I despise in many folks – they would do harm to others, but never openly own it. How clear can this get? redclay7
   
4. On February 1, 2021 at 8:10 am, WiscoDave said:
   @Ned2
   Understand your sentiment, but… Have a CCW? Bought anything firearm related with a CC in the last few years? Belong to the NRA or other gun rights group? Commented on or visited pro-gun websites?
   They say you are guilty. How do you prove a negative? You can’t. Courts mean nothing. No redress.
   Look at what is already going on. Merely being at the 1-6 rally is cause for Federal charges. No fly list. Loss of job. Loss of income.
   They THINK you might own a gun and don’t comply they will come after you and me. Oh, not directly with a stack. Go to buy fuel? Sorry, CC declined. Pay your mortgage via direct withdrawal? Sorry, account frozen. They can, and in my opinion will, shut down every aspect of your life and squeeze compliance out of you.
   Not every one of us has been able to live debt free and only buy with cash.
   Not every one of us has been able to relocate to a community that is made up of strictly patriots that will have our back. Yeah, I know, “sad, that.”
   It’s not coming.
   It’s here.
   @redclay7
   ““Then who do we shoot?”
   These five words uttered by Muley the sharecropper being thrown from his family farm by bankers near the beginning of The Grapes of Wrath echo in my head. He is frustrated by the seemingly crooked game of cards his world has become and wants to know who has been dealing him these losing hands from the deck of life that is so stacked against him. And all he gets is anonymity and buck-passing. He is flailing at boogeymen.”
   [https://redtreetimes.com/2011/03/26/then...-we-shoot/]
   
5. On February 1, 2021 at 8:21 am, SGT.BAG said:
   Those that disarm you, will never disarm themselves…..
   
6. On February 1, 2021 at 8:35 am, Cameron said:
   There’s not much left of the Bill of Rights.
   https://www.wnd.com/2021/01/courts-allow...t-warrant/
   
7. On February 1, 2021 at 8:54 am, Bob in NC said:
   “No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound
   to enforce it.” — 16 Am. Jur. Sec. 177 late 2d, Sec 256
   
8. On February 1, 2021 at 9:21 am, Pistol Pete said:
   Let me see, a population that willingly deprives their children and themselves oxygen on a daily basis, proudly wear slave insignia muzzles, self isolate, close their own businesses, clamor for and pay extra to be at the front to receive an experimental dna scrambler, a population that willingly accepts an illegitimate organization taking control of their country. A people that let their food supply line be decimated, a people that let socialists/communist occupy US cities, burning and looting, raping and killing. Line in the sand? Really? Better take pictures now cause you know ain’t no one doing anything else – you can look at the pictures on the bus ride to fema fun camp – gun owners gotta be re-educated.
   
9. On February 1, 2021 at 9:22 am, Rastapopoulos said:
   The Exchange Student for whom this ill conceived bill is named is one of 23 shot in the 2018 school shooting and one of ten who perished.
   Is it right to ignore the nine others who died that day?
   And what about memorializing all the 23 who were shot?
   Oh, what about memorializing the perpetrator, as wasn’t he shot (but not killed) by the police?
   H.R.127 – Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act – 117th Congress (2021-2022) is a reintroduction of H.R.4081 – Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act – 116th Congress (2019-2020) which died in committee without attracting a single cosponsor.
   Is this anything more than Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee [D-TX-18] attempting to attract the lime light to her revisionist ideas of American society?
   Is it in Texas 18th Congresional District’s best interest to repeatedly be embarrassed returning the Representative to congress? (Interestingly TX-18 is a C-shaped swath of metro Houston https://www.congress.gov/member/district...ee/J000032 )
   Let your representatives know that you oppose H.R. 127 and that associating with this bill in any way other than opposition would end your support & vote.
   
10. On February 1, 2021 at 9:48 am, Sanders said:
    You want to know who will comply? Look at everyone you see wearing a mask – because the government said so, not because it is the law.
    Figure anyone wearing a mask will work against you in preserving Freedom. It’s a dismal prospect, when looked at that way, at least around here. Hell, I’ve even seen people open-carrying while wearing a mask. It does not inspire confidence in me.
    
11. On February 1, 2021 at 10:01 am, billrla said:
    Thus, the militarization of Washington, DC.
    
12. On February 1, 2021 at 10:21 am, Pistol Pete said:
    For anyone to suggest that we “fight this in court”, that individual must first declare the current governing body as legitimate. Even then it is the cabals court system not the american court system – America IS an occupied nation, being governed by other laws and rules. This is not a Bill, it is a declaration of their intentions. Everyone knows what comes next –
    
13. On February 1, 2021 at 10:21 am, John said:
    Concentration camp survivor Kitty Wirthmann on bogus registration; says “Keep your guns.”
    https://youtu.be/u__rs1LeHHE
    
14. On February 1, 2021 at 10:43 am, b said:
    Pistol Pete,
    On what basis are you calling the vaccine a “DNA scrambler”? You give the distinct impression that you have no idea what an RNA vaccine is and that you may be wearing a tin foil hat. Please though, I’d like to keep my unwavering support for 2A and gun rights disaggregated from kook anti-vaccine theories.
    
15. On February 1, 2021 at 11:24 am, Frank Clarke said:
    @redclay7:
    “This cannot be ignored and thinking the NRA will do its job…”
    That’s funny. That should be part of a stand-up comedy routine: the NRA doing its job… The NRA’s job for the past 90 years has been endorsing one gun control law after another “because we got a compromise from a REALLY AWFUL alternative bill”. That’s why ‘NRA’ stands for Not Relevant Anymore.
    http://frankclarke.dx.am/politics/mbv.html
    
16. On February 1, 2021 at 11:34 am, Pistol Pete said:
    B, great thing about america – I can still say and think as I wish. Attempting to censor me and belittling me for my thoughts make you trollish and divide our commonality – the 2a. My 1st A is just as important as your 2nd A. I attacked no individual, only stated my own thoughts. My point was, total submission and compliance by the population of this occupied nation.
    
17. On February 1, 2021 at 11:45 am, GWB said:
    Anyone know where 80% lowers aren’t sold out? And where do I get good, inexpensive, made-in-America machines to mill?
    
18. On February 1, 2021 at 3:48 pm, B said:
    Non-compliance. Cultivate intel to gain an inkling if/when they will come for you, Mr. newly-minted felon, and arrange to have armed friends/neighbors available to back you up. Remember, also, these people have names/addresses/families.
    Additionally: infrastructure, logistics. Lots of legal (and questionable) methods herein to apply pressure…
    
19. On February 1, 2021 at 5:19 pm, StillSworn said:
    Brings to mind a phrase heard somewhere, sometime.
    “Cut off the head of the snake.”
    There are many heads.
    
20. On February 1, 2021 at 6:03 pm, Chas said:
    I think Lee needs a 1 am visit..
    
21. On February 1, 2021 at 6:05 pm, Don said:
    My wife, whose faith is much stronger than mine, is praying for our Lord to return, aka the Rapture, to solve our problems. I’m too jaded, cynical to put much stock in that, but I really hope that she is right, as I don’t see any other way out. I quit a high paying technical contract in another state so I could be at home with her if things go bad, as I fear they will.
    
22. On February 2, 2021 at 12:39 am, Hudson H Luce said:
    If you want to have a look at who is going to fight for your God-given rights, go look in a mirror. And remember this: “We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that all men are created equal and independent; that from that equal creation they derive in rights inherent and inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it … but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, begun at a distinguished period, and pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to subject them to arbitrary power, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” Declaration of Independence
    It is not only their right but it is also their *duty*… That’s really all that needs saying. It’s not pleasant now, and it wasn’t pleasant back then, either.
    

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H.R. 127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022) Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-cong...t?r=19&s=1

[Ninurta]

I'm good. I've already got my license. It's already been posted publicly right here, so that anyone can look it up. Right there is your "publicly searchable database".

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[727Sky]

Besides the article about the guns and ammo how about troops being sent to Syria, Washington D.C. becoming a state even though the Constitution says "No Can Do".

Anyone with borderline high blood pressure do not watch the video...you have been warned ! hahah

[Ninurta]

Besides the article about the guns and ammo how about troops being sent to Syria, Washington D.C. becoming a state even though the Constitution says "No Can Do".

Anyone with borderline high blood pressure do not watch the video...you have been warned ! hahah

They do seem to feel cheated out of their war, and intent to spark one at any cost. 

I doubt the gun legislation will go anywhere in this session, because it is not ready. It's too vague, has no enforcement mechanism built in to it, and is in many places contradictory. I don't think there is any muster it can pass, not even in a boy scout troop, much less Congress or SCOTUS. Whoever hired that idiot congress critter needs to give her a job evaluation. I think some coaching might be in order, and she would definitely derive massive benefit from a class in how to read and write law from a local community college, or even a high school civics class, if high schools still teach that.

The DC for statehood thing is picking up traction among Marxists. As you correctly observe, that is banned by the Constitution, but since when have Marxists given a shit about a Constitution? It was set up that way to prevent any one state from "lording it over" the rest of the states, and they seem to be intent on breaking that safeguard now. You can bet real money that there are several states who will not accept orders on how to run their state coming from another state. Did anyone notice the hissy fit PA threw when 20 states got together and sued them for trying to break the Constitution? That was a legitimate suit, because PA injured the rights of voters in every other state, all 49, but it was not heard on the principle that one state cannot tell another state how to run their internal affairs. Same for DC if they were to make it a state. The Federal government would cease to exist at that point, as there would be no Federal district to house it.

The United States would cease to exist at that point, and there would no longer be a Union of States to call "United" and no Federal government, because no Federal district to locate it. It would be a territory run by fiat from a single state, and most of that territory would tell the central  totalitarians to fuck off, that they wanted no part of an American Socialist Empire, that they had no interest in surrendering their sovereignty to another state.

Six states Attorney Generals have already put BidenHarris on notice that they will vigorously oppose any unconstitutional moves made by hisher regime. The letter informing himher of that was written in West Virginia, by the WV Attorney General, but signed off on by Montana, Alaska, Texas, and two more that escape me at the moment. You can bet that making DC a state would kick that into high gear and get many, many other states loaded onto the bandwagon. No US state is willing to surrender it's sovereignty to another state. I have a copy of the letter that they sent to BidenHarris.

Puerto Rico is the one to watch, and may be why the Marxists are making all the noise about making DC a state, to distract attention from the real plan to make Puerto Rico a state. That, too, will be opposed by red states, but it has a better chance of succeeding than making DC a state as it is at least legal, even if foolhardy. If they succeed in packing Congress with more Marxists like that, then I would support Texas exercising it's right to subdivide into separate states to counter that Marxist gain in Congress. It wouldn't give them any more Reps in the house, but it could increase their Senate representation by 14 Senators, and offset the imbalance the Marxists are trying to create. If Congress balks at that notion, then I would support Texas Secession, which Texas is already talking about.

Some states are talking reorganization, with some counties expressing a desire to secede from the state they are in and join to an adjoining state that has saner government. A large county in northern Colorado wants to join Wyoming instead, which if that were to occur would nearly double the entire population of Wyoming. One of the Oregon counties is flirting with the notion of attaching itself to Idaho instead. West Virginia has already passed a resolution allowing Virginia counties to leave VA and attach themselves to WV instead, which as a Virginia resident I am all for. Virginia has finally fallen to the Marxist Yankees, 155 years after the First Civil War allegedly ended. It's time to leave them to their own devices and join a saner state. Virginia would oppose that move, of course. While there is a saying here that Richmond thinks Virginia ends at Roanoke, because they steadfastly ignore us until it's time to rape some more minerals out of the land, they would surely notice that mineral wealth leaving their commonwealth and attaching itself to WV instead. Nearly all the minerals and natural resources of Virginia are west of the Blue Ridge mountains, and they won't give that up without a battle...

... but a non-trivial number of us are ready and willing to give them that battle if they insist, rather than live under the despotism we are being subjected to. We demonstrated that last spring with the "Second Amendment Sanctuary" movement as a response to despotic laws passed by a legislature bought and paid for by Michael Bloomberg and George Soros. Over 90% of the state stood it's ground against the urban Marxists peeking out of Bloomberg's pocket. They're making a sad mistake if they think that was just a fluke.

I think the US in general is in the same mindset if DC tries to state itself and despoil the rest of the nation by edict.

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[Michigan Swamp Buck]

I posted this over on the other side. I hope I wasn't a little over the top with this, but here it goes . . .

Guns don't win wars, ideas do. We need to stand for those ideas and show them we mean business.

What is needed is organization with long range plans that use asymmetric tactics. The opposition needs to be studied for weaknesses and those must be exploited hard. We are considered the enemy just for having a political view point that differs from theirs, so we might as well prove them correct and give them some solid resistance. I want to see walls around every state capitol and government building. By hiding in their lairs in real fear of life and limb it will only make it easier to block them in, cut them off and smoke them out.

There are many capable and knowledgeable people who will be a part of the resistance and who will rise to the occasion. There are many tools that can be used that aren't weapons that cause physical destruction and kill. Besides, plenty of armories and private caches around as well as any underground supply lines from covert allies that will likely be forming.

This gun grab, if ultimately successful, is one step away from confiscating everything for the "common good" with the final steps being forced labor and mass executions. If they manage to make private gun ownership illegal, it will be one, maybe two years tops before all your money, supplies, home and everything you own is taken from you. After that it's time for slave labor and re-education camps and all the things that go with that deal because nobody defended the right to bear arms when they could have.

Pretty harsh words after rereading, but this is how I see it after much research into other countries that have went down this road.

[ABNARTY]

I am hoping this one goes nowhere. 

HOWEVER, I am convinced it will be back in some form or another. The ATF can simply tax gun owners or would-be gun buyers to the point of giving up. 

On top of that, we have already seen "thee, not me" in full force recently rendering law so malleable as to be inconsequential. The media will puke out some information campaign about alt-right/insurgent/terrorist/nutjobs and the snot will be a-slinging from the urban coastal enclaves.

[Ninurta]

 The ATF can simply tax gun owners or would-be gun buyers to the point of giving up. 

Didn't we have a wee problem with unjust taxation once or twice before? It seems like there was some little sort of dustup around it, but I can't be sure any more...

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[727Sky]

 The ATF can simply tax gun owners or would-be gun buyers to the point of giving up. 

Didn't we have a wee problem with unjust taxation once or twice before? It seems like there was some little sort of dustup around it, but I can't be sure any more...

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Tis true but alas that was before the girly boys took over. Now it seems to be how many likes and followers one can acquire on some social media

[Schmoe1]

Guns are a right, not a privilege.  They can go get fucked with their licensing bullshit.

[Ninurta]

Guns are a right, not a privilege.  They can go get fucked with their licensing bullshit.

Exactly. They can go first - impose a tax and licensing on their rights to speak, to vote, to be secure from illegal searches and seizures... we can go down the list and tax ALL their rights... but them FIRST. Lead the way. Show us how it's done.

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