The Satanic Temple

[guohua]

OK, wait for it, yes it has to do with children, or to be more factual, Fetuses.

Satanic Temple Raffles Free Abortion, Says Killing Unborn Babies Is ‘Ultimate Offering to Satan’

I am not sure who would want to breed with those things walking up the steps,,,, But.

The Satanic Temple has described the killing of an unborn baby as “the ultimate offering to Satan” and is now raffling off a free abortion to raise money for a new pro-abortion campaign.




“The Satanic Temple is proud to announce its Religious Abortion Ritual, a ceremony rooted in our deeply-held beliefs,” the group said in a video announcement on YouTube. “Thyself is thy master. Hail Satan!”


CBN News reports the Satanic Temple (TST) launched a campaign to promote its “Religious Abortion Ritual,” which it compares to baptism or communion for Christians.

The “ritual” celebrates the killing of an innocent unborn child by abortion. TST claims the deadly practice follows two of its bodily autonomy and adherence to best scientific practices.

 And there is more:

To fund its pro-abortion efforts, it is raising money through a raffle. The “grand prize” for those who donate at least $200 is an abortion.

“Win a free abortion. The Satanic Temple will cover the medical expenses for your pregnancy termination up to $2,500,” the fundraiser states.
Other prizes include a “religious abortion kit consisting of a TST compact mirror and a ritual instruction sheet” and a “Thyself is Thy Master” bracelet.
Link to Ugly Satanist

[Schmoe1]

Jesus, where's a grenade when you need one?

[Freija]

First of all, you do realize what’s going on in the OP is purely a theatrical ploy, right? Members of The Satanic Temple do not worship the devil or believe in magick and are a growing non-theistic politically and socially active group aligned with liberty, equality, rationalism, non-authoritarianism and do not believe in the supernatural. They are political activists using Satanic imagery ironically and satirically to promote their beliefs of separation of church and state, to generate attention and “prompt people to reevaluate fears and perceptions”.

The Satanic Temple uses activism as an expression of worship based on their seven fundamental tenets:

1. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
   
2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
   
3. One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone.
   
4. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
   
5. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
   
6. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
   
7. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
   

I’m actually thinking about joining The Satanic Temple because some of the things they promote, I strongly believe in. I'm probably already on somebody's watch list anyhow so why not?

Their mission statement is “to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people, reject tyrannical authority, advocate practical common sense, oppose injustice, and undertake noble pursuits”.

They believe in “artful” protests and theater to get their point across based on the following rules?

• Protest is an act of free speech, and protesters must respect free speech.
  
• Have a clearly articulated position with tenable demands and a practical well-defined statement for what constitutes achieving your goals.
  
• Effective protest is founded on a legitimate theory of change that is exemplified by the structure of IF I do X, THEN Y will happen BECAUSE Z.
  
• Protest must be based on a principle as opposed to identity politics. Everyone benefits from the pursuit of well-conceived principles.
  
• Stay focused on specific issues and do not adopt issues that you think are analogously related.
  
• Stand for issues and principles – do not reflexively support the entire agenda of parties, organizations, or individuals.
  
• Do not allow narratives to prevail over facts.
  
• Restrict your movement to people who believe in the principles of your movement.
  
• If your protest calls for the deprivation of rights and liberties of others, intimidates others, harasses or threatens others, silences others, then you are an enemy of freedom no matter what the justification.
  
• Engaging in, promoting, inciting, and/or celebrating physical violence that deliberately targets civilians or property is never justifiable.
  

Kind of makes you wish the BLM, Antifa and the Boogaloo Boys etc., could follow their guidelines, doesn’t it?


Further Reading:

Hail Satan? puts the fun in Satanic fundamentalism[/img]

Hell yeah! How the satanists became the good guys

What The Satanic Temple is and why it’s opening a debate about religion

The Satanic Temple (Wikipedia)

Everything you need to know about the Satanic Temple, which the US government just officially recognized as an organized religion

The Satanic Temple homepage


Do not mistake or confuse The Satanic Temple with the Church of Satan based on the writings of Anton LaVey.

[Sol]

OK, wait for it, yes it has to do with children, or to be more factual, Fetuses.

Satanic Temple Raffles Free Abortion, Says Killing Unborn Babies Is ‘Ultimate Offering to Satan’

I am not sure who would want to breed with those things walking up the steps,,,, But.

The Satanic Temple has described the killing of an unborn baby as “the ultimate offering to Satan” and is now raffling off a free abortion to raise money for a new pro-abortion campaign.




“The Satanic Temple is proud to announce its Religious Abortion Ritual, a ceremony rooted in our deeply-held beliefs,” the group said in a video announcement on YouTube. “Thyself is thy master. Hail Satan!”


CBN News reports the Satanic Temple (TST) launched a campaign to promote its “Religious Abortion Ritual,” which it compares to baptism or communion for Christians.

The “ritual” celebrates the killing of an innocent unborn child by abortion. TST claims the deadly practice follows two of its bodily autonomy and adherence to best scientific practices.

 And there is more:

To fund its pro-abortion efforts, it is raising money through a raffle. The “grand prize” for those who donate at least $200 is an abortion.

“Win a free abortion. The Satanic Temple will cover the medical expenses for your pregnancy termination up to $2,500,” the fundraiser states.
Other prizes include a “religious abortion kit consisting of a TST compact mirror and a ritual instruction sheet” and a “Thyself is Thy Master” bracelet.
Link to Ugly Satanist

One has to wonder where all those abortion raffles were when all of these fuck ups from that picture were born. Oh the irony...

[Mystic Wanderer]

I’m actually thinking about joining The Satanic Temple because some of the things they promote, I strongly believe in. I'm probably already on somebody's watch list anyhow so why not?

I believe you'd fit right in.  

[Freija]

I believe you'd fit right in.  

Care to elaborate on why you think that a little since you seem to know me so well?

Challenge Level 1:
Don't use the words: Democrat, leftist, liberal, Marxist, Socialist, Communist, SJW, progressive, anarchist/Anifa, brain dead, LGB or T in your explanation

[Mystic Wanderer]

I believe you'd fit right in.  

Care to elaborate on why you think that a little since you seem to know me so well?

Challenge Level 1:
Don't use the words: Democrat, leftist, liberal, Marxist, Socialist, Communist, SJW, progressive, anarchist/Anifa, brain dead, LGB or T in your explanation

You're the one talking about all their good points, so why wouldn't you fit right in?  You seem to be judging me. Care to elaborate WHY you took my remark as a negative?


ETA:  I don't care what people do as long as it doesn't affect my life in a negative way.  I believe every person chose their path to learn certain lessons while they're here before they were born (reincarnation).  If this is the path you choose now, so be it. You do you.

As for me, I don't want any part of any organization/program/church with the word "Satan" in it.

But, hey... that's just me.

Carry on.

[Freija]

You're the one talking about all their good points, so why wouldn't you fit right in?

I expressed TWO opinions in the entire post you are referring to; 1) that I believe in and support some of their ideals and 2) that I wished other radical protest groups would follow their guidelines.

The rest of my post was simply presenting information about their group and pointing out the outrage expressed was because some fell for their theatrics which is exactly what their group wanted. I’m curious which of their seven tenets do you disagree with or find offensive or do you feel fighting for liberty, equality, rationalism and non-authoritarianism is outside of your wheelhouse?

You seem to be judging me. Care to elaborate WHY you took my remark as a negative?

I didn’t take it as negativity, I took it as sarcasm or maybe cynicism considering I fall outside of the redpilled crowd’s mindset and your political ideological associations are pretty well known and hard to miss. Honestly now, wasn’t your first thought to blame this on the madness of the liberal left? Certainly that’s what I was expecting you to do and why I listed words not to use to see what you’d come up with to explain why you think I would “fit right in” which makes a heck of a lot of unfounded assumptions about  me.

[Schmoe1]

[guohua]

Yeah, I know right,,, just waiting for the Shoe to fly across the Screen 

[Bally002]

You're the one talking about all their good points, so why wouldn't you fit right in?

I expressed TWO opinions in the entire post you are referring to; 1) that I believe in and support some of their ideals and 2) that I wished other radical protest groups would follow their guidelines.

The rest of my post was simply presenting information about their group and pointing out the outrage expressed was because some fell for their theatrics which is exactly what their group wanted. I’m curious which of their seven tenets do you disagree with or find offensive or do you feel fighting for liberty, equality, rationalism and non-authoritarianism is outside of your wheelhouse?

You seem to be judging me. Care to elaborate WHY you took my remark as a negative?

I didn’t take it as negativity, I took it as sarcasm or maybe cynicism considering I fall outside of the redpilled crowd’s mindset and your political ideological associations are pretty well known and hard to miss. Honestly now, wasn’t your first thought to blame this on the madness of the liberal left? Certainly that’s what I was expecting you to do and why I listed words not to use to see what you’d come up with to explain why you think I would “fit right in” which makes a heck of a lot of unfounded assumptions about  me.

Well strike me pink mate!  I didn't take it as sarcasm or cynicism.

You said, "[b]I’m actually thinking about joining The Satanic Temple because some of the things they promote, I strongly believe in. I'm probably already on somebody's watch list anyhow so why not?[ I’m actually thinking about joining The Satanic Temple because some of the things they promote, I strongly believe in. I'm probably already on somebody's watch list anyhow so why not?

Then someone passes a comment in light of the good points. Nek Minnut. Spose I'm for it now just pointing it out.

Regards,

Bally

[Wallfire]

I know a little about communications, and I can say that the description given of what the TST does and believes just made me smile. Its designed to upset people and arouse anger and fear. To be honest its not very good at either but some people just need to be noticed.
As far as the abortion part, "buy a 200 dollar ticked and if you win you get a free abortion", says it all.
If most people worshiped the devil, would the people who worshiped God be the evil ones ???.

[Freija]

Well strike me pink mate!  I didn't take it as sarcasm or cynicism.

Well, I did and if I was wrong then I apologize but I really don't think I am. Maybe I just woke up grouchy? I was also just looking for further explanation of why someone that really doesn't know much of anything about me thinks I would be a good fit in this group? What have I said or done that would give someone that impression?

I'm for it now just pointing it out.

Your opinion and perspective are welcome and valid. Thanks for sharing them.  

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I know a little about communications, and I can say that the description given of what the TST does and believes just made me smile. Its designed to upset people and arouse anger and fear. To be honest its not very good at either but some people just need to be noticed.
As far as the abortion part, "buy a 200 dollar ticked and if you win you get a free abortion", says it all.
If most people worshiped the devil, would the people who worshiped God be the evil ones ???.

I think their intention is more to make people think and examine their anger and fear and it seems if nothing else, their performance art and iconography is pretty good at pushing buttons and pissing people off. It's kind of genius, actually.

As far as the abortion thing, that falls in line with their 3rd tenet, that “one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone” and they aren’t so much promoting abortion as they are protesting the government’s control over people’s lives.

There is a documentary about them called Hail Satan available to rent/buy on YouTube that premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. Below is a Good Morning Britain interview with the co-founder of the Satanic Temple. He seems like a pretty smart, well mannered and well spoken dude?

[Sol]

In my younger days, I've had a streak of "Pagan" years (was a practicing Pagan for well over a decade) and did look at Satanism as some of their traits appealed to me.

But the bottom line was that they promote the "Me first, above all else.." philosophy and that just didn't agree with me.

While "Me first" would be nice at times, I'm more the "You first" type of person.

Satanism, Paganism, all out the door now as I tend more on the Atheist (or there's something bigger than us but I can't figure out what it is anymore or if it even exists) side of things.

Old age and all of that...yada yada yada...



Just to add: Those freaks in the OP picture represent mental illness to me, not Satanism.


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[Mystic Wanderer]

You're the one talking about all their good points, so why wouldn't you fit right in?

I expressed TWO opinions in the entire post you are referring to; 1) that I believe in and support some of their ideals and 2) that I wished other radical protest groups would follow their guidelines.

The rest of my post was simply presenting information about their group and pointing out the outrage expressed was because some fell for their theatrics which is exactly what their group wanted. I’m curious which of their seven tenets do you disagree with or find offensive or do you feel fighting for liberty, equality, rationalism and non-authoritarianism is outside of your wheelhouse?

You seem to be judging me. Care to elaborate WHY you took my remark as a negative?

I didn’t take it as negativity, I took it as sarcasm or maybe cynicism considering I fall outside of the redpilled crowd’s mindset and your political ideological associations are pretty well known and hard to miss. Honestly now, wasn’t your first thought to blame this on the madness of the liberal left? Certainly that’s what I was expecting you to do and why I listed words not to use to see what you’d come up with to explain why you think I would “fit right in” which makes a heck of a lot of unfounded assumptions about  me.

I presented a reply that would give you two options for interpretation.

1: You would see it as a negative remark (sarcasm), or,
2: You would see it as a fact, because you agree with their ideals and would be a good member choice.

You chose option 1.
This says more about you than me. Maybe you should take a look inside and ponder on why you see things as being an attack on you and your ideals when it comes from someone like me, who as you stated, have ideals that differ from yours.
And, why would I hide how I think? This is ME. I may not use my real name here, but everything else is the REAL me.

Something you should learn when you communicate with Conservatives is that we like to deal with facts, not feelings, when it comes to politics or ideals.

[Ninurta]

@"Freija" - This will no doubt shock everyone, but I find myself in disagreement with @"Mystic Wanderer" over this issue. I don't think you'd fit in there well at all, at all, and should probably steer clear of them. They seem to be a gaggle of bitter old attention whores (think "Church Ladies", but in black robes) who care nothing about nothing other than to be seen, noticed, paid attention to, and you do not strike me as a good fit in their ranks due to that.

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[Freija]

Something you should learn when you communicate with Conservatives is that we like to deal with facts, not feelings, when it comes to politics or ideals.

LOL!  

One thing I have learned about "conservatives" is that most gleefully and blindly believe whatever bias confirming "facts" fit their paradigm, are highly polarized and rigid in their thinking and when questioned or challenged, often bring out the facts not feelings trope. Thanks for not disappointing.  

FWIW, I may be considered progressive on some social issues that affect me directly but am more of a moderate or Centrist in general and have several right leaning values, however, I am not a fan of our current administration or politics and politicians even a little bit.


Back to bed. 9:00 AM for me is like the middle of the night.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Something you should learn when you communicate with Conservatives is that we like to deal with facts, not feelings, when it comes to politics or ideals.

LOL!  

One thing I have learned about "conservatives" is that most gleefully and blindly believe whatever bias confirming "facts" fit their paradigm, are highly polarized and rigid in their thinking and when questioned or challenged, often bring out the facts not feelings trope. Thanks for not disappointing.  

FWIW, I may be considered progressive on some social issues that affect me directly but am more of a moderate or Centrist in general and have several right leaning values, however, I am not a fan of our current administration or politics and politicians even a little bit.


Back to bed. 9:00 AM for me is like the middle of the night.

What is it with anyone who disagrees with Conservative ideals, that when you say something, their reply is a laughing emoji?  Are you trying to belittle me by laughing at me? Is that your argument?
This happens all the time on FB when I try to talk to anyone who has left-leaning ideals.

"blindly believe whatever bias confirming "facts" fit their paradigm". 

Say what? I can't even wrap my head around what you mean by this.  If it's a FACT, it's a FACT, regardless of how it's confirmed.

I need more coffee after this conversation. 


Have a good sleep.