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'Spooky' Quantum Movements
#21
Think about what peripheral situations would have to change to allow a 'disappearance' to occur for
one individual.

From the woodlouse crossing your path that would've been crushed in your passing and ergo effecting
a tree nearby, to the person who you were possibly going to meet and yet, never commented on your
lateness because you weren't technically late.

This is why we resorted to deities, Gods that move existences around like chess pieces. It's easier to
accept that there is some-sort of rational control that thinks like us, than to attempt to comprehend
the idea that we are the ones causing these effects via our thinking.

One day we will understand the responsibility we have as sentient beings and the power all thinking
creatures have. It may be that the way we live our lives will drastically change and what we take for
granted now will be lost and laughable notions that we currently perceive as 'woo' or spiritual, become
commonplace.

Time and space isn't what we think it is, it's as pliable as Plasticine and only limited by imagination.
It may be discovered that these fluctuations are necessary for reasons that have nothing to do with us
and effect 'things' we haven't come across yet.

I have one of those very things in my shed! Great thread.
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#22
Great thread.

I may have mentioned this incident before... I can't remember for sure, but about 3 or maybe 4 years ago...

I was driving on a winters' evening near my home.
It was very dark, damp and cold... almost freezing temperatures, so I was driving carefully along very familiar rural roads.
There is one point in the road which does a sharp "S" bend across a small bridge, before cresting a small hill.
Beyond that first hill is a hidden dip in the road, followed by a second hill which rises on the other side.

As I crested the first hill, I saw a car's headlights coming directly towards me (cresting the second hill and disappearing into the hidden dip) about 75 or 100 yards(M)  away,so I slowed right down and pulled to the side of the road to let them pass.

I waited a few seconds... but they never came up out of the dip.
I was completely puzzled by this... there are no other ways out of that dip, it is a single track road, no junctions or driveways or anything!
So, I edged forwards over the brow of my hill and down into the dip.

There was no car.

The hedges at the side of the road were intact (no crash or road accident) the other car had just completely disappeared.

I have tried to work out what could have happened... was it a reflection of my lights? was it lights beyond that hill somewhere? but NONE of the explanations fit.

I SAW a set of car headlights crest the other hill and go down into the hidden dip.
I KNOW i did.
But it wasn't there.


********************************************************************

Also:
Does anyone follow the David Paulides Missing 411 cases?

I have a strong suspicion that some of those cases may be linked to this Dimensional / Quantum movement of objects phenomenon.
People just vanishing into thin air, dogs can't track a scent, sometimes people experience a shift in the atmosphere - No sounds whatsoever... maybe they're the lucky ones who managed to come back, or avoided going too far in...?

G
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#23
@"gordi" 

The one 411 case that caught my eye was the child that went missing.  Later found at the same spot, but some 100 or more feet up a tree.

Makes me wonder how many people think to look UP when something odd like this happens.

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#24
(08-04-2020, 08:37 AM)BIAD Wrote: Think about what peripheral situations would have to change to allow a 'disappearance' to occur for
one individual.

From the woodlouse crossing your path that would've been crushed in your passing and ergo effecting
a tree nearby, to the person who you were possibly going to meet and yet, never commented on your
lateness because you weren't technically late.

This is why we resorted to deities, Gods that move existences around like chess pieces. It's easier to
accept that there is some-sort of rational control that thinks like us, than to attempt to comprehend
the idea that we are the ones causing these effects via our thinking.

One day we will understand the responsibility we have as sentient beings and the power all thinking
creatures have. It may be that the way we live our lives will drastically change and what we take for
granted now will be lost and laughable notions that we currently perceive as 'woo' or spiritual, become
commonplace.

Time and space isn't what we think it is, it's as pliable as Plasticine and only limited by imagination.
It may be discovered that these fluctuations are necessary for reasons that have nothing to do with us
and effect 'things' we haven't come across yet.

I have one of those very things in my shed! Great thread.
minusculethumbsup

I believe, with everything in me, from my very core, that the human mind - soul - spirit - whatever you want to call the essence of "you" that truly IS "you" - has more power than the average human can fathom to affect it's surroundings... but, simply put, it doesn't often actuate in this current world.

.
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’


#25
(08-04-2020, 04:39 AM)VioletDove Wrote: I always find this sort of stuff to be so interesting. We have things disappear here a lot. It’s really the only time my husband and I argue. He will swear I put whatever he is looking for somewhere and not remember. I know I haven’t touched it because I had no reason to. Then the item will show back up right where he left it to begin with.

I once took my favorite ring off to do dishes. The next morning as I headed out to work I couldn’t find it anywhere. I worried about it all day because it was so special and couldn’t be replaced. As I was leaving work that evening, I saw something shining in the sun. It was my ring! Nowhere near where I parked and in a spot that I didn’t even walk close to. I thought it was so weird. I was definitely happy to have it back though.

@"VioletDove", it just leaves one speechless, doesn't it?

The gem from my ring disappeared when I was at a club. It reappeared to me at a drive in theater three months later. Materialized in front of my eyes and fell to my feet. The stone was one of a kind, so it was easy for me to identify. Of all the things that have disappeared and came back, this is the one that left my mouth agape and drained the blood from my face!

I'm glad your ring returned. It's very upsetting to lose something that can't be replaced.
#26
(08-04-2020, 01:57 AM)xuenchen Wrote: Velly Intalesting !!

I once had an ashtray in the center of a table appear to have slid over to the edge of the table !

After looking closer, I realized the table had moved, not the ashtray !

Never could figure it out  tinywondering

@"xuenchen",  that is weird indeed.  I'm trying to figure out how the whole table could move, yet the ashtray did not.

minusculethinking
#27
(08-04-2020, 04:51 AM)Bally002 Wrote: Regards for the insight and thanks to your ancestor.  There's nothing frightening about the dreams and I always wake up.  How can I explain it.  

In my sleep I see vivid landscapes, buildings, vehicles.  The scenes change in each subsequent dream but may extend to another night and I recognize the place again.  They are familiar to me while I'm sleeping but not when I wake up.  I interact and speak with people who again are known to me in the dreaming but I have no clue who they are when I wake up but then know them when I meet up with them next time I dream I'm at that particular place.  

I'm always in one of my uniforms albeit a mixture of some I've worn before.  The vehicles I use are familiar in the dream but totally different to real vehicles.  When driving the vehicle in my sleep state I find it easy to drive, crossing the landscapes of desert, sand dunes, salt flats and bush settings.  Interacting with the locals and the most intriguing part is I know where I'm going to the point I reference various topographic maps, (which I always carried) complete with grid references, in the dream.  These are maps of the vast areas where I worked in real life but the landscape is different, towns, roads, general geographic and the demographics are completely different but the maps are familiar as some expand to the coast line of Western Australia and that picture aspect is the same in real life.

I actually woke up remembering a route I took in one of the dreams where I was referencing a map.  That landscape is different but similar however does not exist in reality.  Different mountains, remote roads and towns.  I tend to navigate through there and return with no problems or dangers.

I don't go to bed with the intention or thinking about this.  It just happens. I may wake up, take a piss, then go back to sleep and have a different dream or don't remember dreaming at all.  The dreams don't possess me.  

So, I take your advice seriously but I'm not concerned as I return always.  Sometimes I may say to my wife in the morning, "Crikey, yer know where went last night.  I flew up to Darwin from Central Aussie for some training, yet it wasn't Darwin.  Totally different but I knew where I was."
Wife will yawn, "You were snoring again last night." lol.

In this threads context I tend to think there is a parallel which I subconsciously visit having been there before when I stepped over all those years ago.

You helped me make my mind up and I will write about that day here, maybe in the 'long story' forum.

My kindest respects to you and yours,

Bally

@"Bally002" 

As I understand it, our "spirit" can be living several different lives in other parallel universes. It could be that the sacred land where you entered allowed you to step through a portal into one of your other lives and your soul intertwined with your soul that was there at that time. This experience and the memories from that life embedded themselves into your cell memories, and now when you enter the dream state, you go back to that life. The only way to get back there is in the astral plane, or ethereal plane, so you enter while in a dream state. That's why it all seems so real, because it is.
It's hard to put into words to explain, so I hope this makes sense to you.

The only other thing that comes to mind is, the universe has already made a path for us to follow depending on the choices we make. This kind of goes into the Looking Glass technology. The outcome can be affected by our thoughts and desires while looking into it.
When you were in your twenties you may have had to make a hard decision regarding something. At the last minute you changed your mind. The path you chose is your life here and now. The other path you didn't choose is the path that would have happened if you had made the other choice. You are seeing it now because of it's importance.
It may be something that you need to see that has to do with choices.

Does either of these ring true to you?
#28
(08-04-2020, 04:11 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(08-04-2020, 04:51 AM)Bally002 Wrote: Regards for the insight and thanks to your ancestor.  There's nothing frightening about the dreams and I always wake up.  How can I explain it.  

In my sleep I see vivid landscapes, buildings, vehicles.  The scenes change in each subsequent dream but may extend to another night and I recognize the place again.  They are familiar to me while I'm sleeping but not when I wake up.  I interact and speak with people who again are known to me in the dreaming but I have no clue who they are when I wake up but then know them when I meet up with them next time I dream I'm at that particular place.  

I'm always in one of my uniforms albeit a mixture of some I've worn before.  The vehicles I use are familiar in the dream but totally different to real vehicles.  When driving the vehicle in my sleep state I find it easy to drive, crossing the landscapes of desert, sand dunes, salt flats and bush settings.  Interacting with the locals and the most intriguing part is I know where I'm going to the point I reference various topographic maps, (which I always carried) complete with grid references, in the dream.  These are maps of the vast areas where I worked in real life but the landscape is different, towns, roads, general geographic and the demographics are completely different but the maps are familiar as some expand to the coast line of Western Australia and that picture aspect is the same in real life.

I actually woke up remembering a route I took in one of the dreams where I was referencing a map.  That landscape is different but similar however does not exist in reality.  Different mountains, remote roads and towns.  I tend to navigate through there and return with no problems or dangers.

I don't go to bed with the intention or thinking about this.  It just happens. I may wake up, take a piss, then go back to sleep and have a different dream or don't remember dreaming at all.  The dreams don't possess me.  

So, I take your advice seriously but I'm not concerned as I return always.  Sometimes I may say to my wife in the morning, "Crikey, yer know where went last night.  I flew up to Darwin from Central Aussie for some training, yet it wasn't Darwin.  Totally different but I knew where I was."
Wife will yawn, "You were snoring again last night." lol.

In this threads context I tend to think there is a parallel which I subconsciously visit having been there before when I stepped over all those years ago.

You helped me make my mind up and I will write about that day here, maybe in the 'long story' forum.

My kindest respects to you and yours,

Bally

@"Bally002" 

As I understand it, our "spirit" can be living several different lives in other parallel universes. It could be that the sacred land where you entered allowed you to step through a portal into one of your other lives and your soul intertwined with your soul that was there at that time. This experience and the memories from that life embedded themselves into your cell memories, and now when you enter the dream state, you go back to that life. The only way to get back there is in the astral plane, or ethereal plane, so you enter while in a dream state. That's why it all seems so real, because it is.
It's hard to put into words to explain, so I hope this to make sense to you.

The only other thing that comes to mind is, the universe has already made a path for us to follow depending on the choices we make. This kind of goes into the Looking Glass technology. The outcome can be affected by our thoughts and desires while looking into it.
When you were in your twenties you may have had to make a hard decision regarding something. At the last minute you changed your mind. The path you chose is your life here and now. The other path you didn't choose is the path that would have happened if you had made the other choice. You are seeing it now because of it's importance.
It may be something that you need to see that has to do with choices.

Does either of these ring true to you?
Yes it does.  Amazing.  I just finished my story and posted in 'Long Stories' forum.  The event took place in my 40's years.  I made a life changing decision in my later 20's which did lead to what happened.  i.e. I left the navy and became an LEO.  I went to aboriginal ceremonies later in that time.

Kind regards,

Bally.  1.15am here.  I really must take some time off from writing and get some sleep.  I have a big day (Wednesday) here staring at 6.00am.:)
#29
(08-04-2020, 08:06 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A fascinating thread, for personal reasons. For the first time in my life, I'm trying to figure out how to "subscribe" to a thread. There are both meat AND potatoes in this thread.

ETA: got the subscription all figured out. I think. Time will tell. What I see in dreams and what I see in the "real" world both haf corrollaries here in this thread.

.

Looking forward to hearing your experience(s)  @"Ninurta".
#30
(08-04-2020, 08:37 AM)BIAD Wrote: Think about what peripheral situations would have to change to allow a 'disappearance' to occur for
one individual.

From the woodlouse crossing your path that would've been crushed in your passing and ergo effecting
a tree nearby, to the person who you were possibly going to meet and yet, never commented on your
lateness because you weren't technically late.

This is why we resorted to deities, Gods that move existences around like chess pieces. It's easier to
accept that there is some-sort of rational control that thinks like us, than to attempt to comprehend
the idea that we are the ones causing these effects via our thinking.

One day we will understand the responsibility we have as sentient beings and the power all thinking
creatures have. It may be that the way we live our lives will drastically change and what we take for
granted now will be lost and laughable notions that we currently perceive as 'woo' or spiritual, become
commonplace.

Time and space isn't what we think it is, it's as pliable as Plasticine and only limited by imagination.
It may be discovered that these fluctuations are necessary for reasons that have nothing to do with us
and effect 'things' we haven't come across yet.

I have one of those very things in my shed! Great thread.
minusculethumbsup

Thanks @BIAD.   tinybiggrin 

As I've stated here many times, the mind is a powerful thing. We can manifest our reality with our thoughts. That's why I try to keep my "vibration" up and my thoughts positive.

When I meditate or pray, I imagine a world where people get along, clear skies, clean water, no wars, no sickness, no fear, etc.
When more than one person concentrates on the same outcome, it doubles the possibility of that outcome manifesting into our reality. When three do it, it's even more powerful, and so on. That's why "prayer" in church is so powerful; you have MANY praying and focusing on the same thing at the same time.
Believe it, or not, it's true, and it all has to do with the power of our thoughts.

If more people "think" the world is going to burn and war is eminent, then that helps manifest that reality into existence. There are evil entities out there that wish harm to humans and what you see right now is their efforts to keep people living in fear, violence, and hating one another.  This is what "they" feed on.

If people would concentrate on helping others and only good thoughts, it would starve these evil beings to death and they would be defeated. Sadly, it is part of human nature to react to what they put in front of us, and our reaction is usually negative.  We are all guilty, even me.

This is also why "they" are trying to do away with the church; it is one of their most powerful enemies. Prayer, love, and peace is the most powerful weapon we can use against them.
I'm not talking about the Catholic church where children get raped, but a real church where the "spirit" is alive and ignites that spark inside us to do good things.

We all need to raise our vibration; this makes it impossible for the evil ones to see us.
#31
(08-04-2020, 10:46 AM)gordi Wrote: Great thread.

I may have mentioned this incident before... I can't remember for sure, but about 3 or maybe 4 years ago...

I was driving on a winters' evening near my home.
It was very dark, damp and cold... almost freezing temperatures, so I was driving carefully along very familiar rural roads.
There is one point in the road which does a sharp "S" bend across a small bridge, before cresting a small hill.
Beyond that first hill is a hidden dip in the road, followed by a second hill which rises on the other side.

As I crested the first hill, I saw a car's headlights coming directly towards me (cresting the second hill and disappearing into the hidden dip) about 75 or 100 yards(M)  away,so I slowed right down and pulled to the side of the road to let them pass.

I waited a few seconds... but they never came up out of the dip.
I was completely puzzled by this... there are no other ways out of that dip, it is a single track road, no junctions or driveways or anything!
So, I edged forwards over the brow of my hill and down into the dip.

There was no car.

The hedges at the side of the road were intact (no crash or road accident) the other car had just completely disappeared.

I have tried to work out what could have happened... was it a reflection of my lights? was it lights beyond that hill somewhere? but NONE of the explanations fit.

I SAW a set of car headlights crest the other hill and go down into the hidden dip.
I KNOW i did.
But it wasn't there.


********************************************************************

Also:
Does anyone follow the David Paulides Missing 411 cases?

I have a strong suspicion that some of those cases may be linked to this Dimensional / Quantum movement of objects phenomenon.
People just vanishing into thin air, dogs can't track a scent, sometimes people experience a shift in the atmosphere - No sounds whatsoever... maybe they're the lucky ones who managed to come back, or avoided going too far in...?

G

@"gordi", the only thing that comes to mind with the "headlights" is that it could have been those "other-worldly" lights, like the Foo Fighters that popped up in past incidents.

As for Missing 411, I think it is very possible that people step through other dimensions where portals exists. It seems there are plenty of them in the forests. Maybe this is why the government chooses to keep them as parks and not allow any modern development to take place?  I seriously doubt it is because they care about the wildlife. They don't even care about us humans.
#32
(08-04-2020, 11:40 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I believe, with everything in me, from my very core, that the human mind - soul - spirit - whatever you want to call the essence of "you" that truly IS "you" - has more power than the average human can fathom to affect it's surroundings... but, simply put, it doesn't often actuate in this current world.

.

@"Ninurta",  see my reply to BIAD. It would also fit my reply to you.
#33
@"gordi" 
Yes those missing cases David Paulides speck of, I would think many are related to stepping into another Dimension.
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