Supreme Court Declares half of OK belongs to Creek Tribe

[Mystic Wanderer]

Oops! Someone forgot to dot the I and cross the T on a document agreement with the Creek Tribe back in the 1800s.

A man won his case by declaring his crime took place on Indian land, out of U.S. jurisdiction, when he raped a 4 year old child. The treaty was never finished, so the Supreme Court had to rule in favor of the rapist.

The Creek Tribe was unaware that half of OK still belonged to them, legally, until this court case came up.

There will be things to figure out in the days ahead, and other tribes will be affected as well.

Chalk up a win for our Native Americans.  I'm glad they finally got some justice for what was taken from them all those years ago.
I think I must have been a Native American in a past life because I've always felt a strong connection to them.

[guohua]

The Rapist (probably a Native) needs to be Castrated, I don't care where he committed his Crime against a small child, he needs to be Punished.

The Indians will just build Casinos and bars and more shacks to sell their junk.

My husband is half indian and he would NEVER go on to a reservation by free will. To much Drugs, Alcoholism, Incest and Crime.

Just Our Humble Opinion.

[Mystic Wanderer]

The Rapist (probably a Native) needs to be Castrated, I don't care where he committed his Crime against a small child, he needs to be Punished.

The Indians will just build Casinos and bars and more shacks to sell their junk.

My husband is half indian and he would NEVER go on to a reservation by free will. To much Drugs, Alcoholism, Incest and Crime.

Just Our Humble Opinion.

He should be put in front of a firing squad, in my opinion.   Anyone who harms a child doesn't deserve to breath my air!

[F2d5thCav]

No, no.  No firing squad.  Let the Creek tribe devise a fitting punishment.

Cheers

[Schmoe1]

The Rapist (probably a Native) needs to be Castrated, I don't care where he committed his Crime against a small child, he needs to be Punished.

The Indians will just build Casinos and bars and more shacks to sell their junk.

My husband is half indian and he would NEVER go on to a reservation by free will. To much Drugs, Alcoholism, Incest and Crime.

Just Our Humble Opinion.

He should be put in front of a firing squad, in my opinion.   Anyone who harms a child doesn't deserve to breath my air!

If I was that poor kid's dad, I'd have the torture chamber all set up and ready to go.

[guohua]

The Rapist (probably a Native) needs to be Castrated, I don't care where he committed his Crime against a small child, he needs to be Punished.

The Indians will just build Casinos and bars and more shacks to sell their junk.

My husband is half indian and he would NEVER go on to a reservation by free will. To much Drugs, Alcoholism, Incest and Crime.

Just Our Humble Opinion.

He should be put in front of a firing squad, in my opinion.   Anyone who harms a child doesn't deserve to breath my air!

If I was that poor kid's dad, I'd have the torture chamber all set up and ready to go.

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

Sorry if we sound Hateful and Racist. But my husband has his reasons.

[Lumenari]

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

Sorry if we sound Hateful and Racist. But my husband has his reasons.

All reservations are not equal.

That's like saying that every town in America is exactly like Chicago.

As to what the ruling was actually about, turns out that he committed the crime on sovereign Territory.

Meaning it is not technically US territory so they have no actual jurisdiction.

This particular guy needs to be brought before a Creek Nation Judge and have the book thrown at him.

Then popped right into General population in a Muskogee jail.

He won't live long there.

As far as sounding hateful and racist, you most certainly do.

Your husband's issues with his Tribe do not reflect the majority of Native Americans OR their particular Tribes.

But self-hating Native Americans isn't exactly a new thing for me, so....


~shrug~

[Captain Chaos]

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

I don't know what you mean by this. I've done sweat lodges and there is nothing sexual. They don't even mix sexes. Men have their own and women have their own. Do you even know what they do in there? They pray. They sing and pray. That's all.

[RickyD]

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

I don't know what you mean by this. I've done sweat lodges and there is nothing sexual. They don't even mix sexes. Men have their own and women have their own. Do you even know what they do in there? They pray. They sing and pray. That's all.

I'm not native, however I lived in NM for a good 7 years and met a lot of folks from reservation and those who'd go to them often. I have indeed heard a lot of stories about sweat lodges and how women were treated out there...not many of them good.

So while I'm sure not everyone on any reservation is like that...it does appear to be more common of a problem than one would think.

[guohua]

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

Sorry if we sound Hateful and Racist. But my husband has his reasons.

All reservations are not equal.

That's like saying that every town in America is exactly like Chicago.

As to what the ruling was actually about, turns out that he committed the crime on sovereign Territory.

Meaning it is not technically US territory so they have no actual jurisdiction.

This particular guy needs to be brought before a Creek Nation Judge and have the book thrown at him.

Then popped right into General population in a Muskogee jail.

He won't live long there.

As far as sounding hateful and racist, you most certainly do.

Your husband's issues with his Tribe do not reflect the majority of Native Americans OR their particular Tribes.

But self-hating Native Americans isn't exactly a new thing for me, so....


~shrug~

I suppose you think all people in small towns and cities live crime free, they don't and he you would look at the statistics, you would find a large problem with alcohol abuse and drug abuse and crime.
Like I said, you can call me Hateful and Racist, but You where not there.

[guohua]

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

I don't know what you mean by this. I've done sweat lodges and there is nothing sexual. They don't even mix sexes. Men have their own and women have their own. Do you even know what they do in there? They pray. They sing and pray. That's all.

You have done sweat lodges with some good people. But my husband (because of me) was in a sweat lodges with true scum, you were not there.
Not all of the Indian Nations are the same, like not all cities are crime free.

The soul reason my husbands father left and never returned was because of this criminal act turned him away he was nearly charged for murder.
The council and chief of the reservation police dropped the charges.
The next year my husbands father fled.

[Lumenari]

If this was on the Reservation, probably in a Sweat Lodge and was The Poor Kids Dad.

Sorry if we sound Hateful and Racist. But my husband has his reasons.

All reservations are not equal.

That's like saying that every town in America is exactly like Chicago.

As to what the ruling was actually about, turns out that he committed the crime on sovereign Territory.

Meaning it is not technically US territory so they have no actual jurisdiction.

This particular guy needs to be brought before a Creek Nation Judge and have the book thrown at him.

Then popped right into General population in a Muskogee jail.

He won't live long there.

As far as sounding hateful and racist, you most certainly do.

Your husband's issues with his Tribe do not reflect the majority of Native Americans OR their particular Tribes.

But self-hating Native Americans isn't exactly a new thing for me, so....


~shrug~

I suppose you think all people in small towns and cities live crime free, they don't and he you would look at the statistics, you would find a large problem with alcohol abuse and drug abuse and crime.
Like I said, you can call me Hateful and Racist, but You where not there.

I didn't call you hateful and racist.

You called yourself that.

I said you sounded like it.

You still do.

I can tell when "my kind" are not wanted on a site.

Thank you for being honest about it, at least.

I'll find a site where people of "my kind" are welcomed for their own personal intellect and not torn down because of the color of their skin or their culture.

I will leave you as a Chinese person in America with this...

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Interpret THAT how you want to.