The Mount Rushmore Debacle

[Mystic Wanderer]

Report: Don Lemon Says Only Way to “Fix” Mt. Rushmore is to Add Obama.

Oh Hell No!  

When Obama visited Mt. Rushmore it was “amazing and beautiful.”

However, when Trump held his 4th of July event there it’s was “dark, ugly and racist.”

If anyone is still having a problem seeing the bias in our news reporters, seek therapy.

The debate over Mt. Rushmore continues…and it wasn’t even a debate until President Trump splashed on the scene.

Prior to Trump’s political arrival, Mt. Rushmore was still considered “majestic” and “historical.”

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If ANYONE deserves to be added to Mount Rushmore, it certainly is NOT Obummer. He tore our country apart with racial divide, wrecked our economy, and allowed Killary to sell our assets to China and other countries.

Trump, on the other hand, has built us back up. He's working on repairing all the damage Obummer and his administration did, so if anyone deserves to be up there on the mountain with the other "greats", it's him.

Who agrees with me?

Representative Kristi Noem, a South Dakota Republican, said President Donald Trump views his own face going up on Mount Rushmore as no laughing matter.

Noem, who is also running for governor of South Dakota, relayed a conversation she had with the president during her first visit to the Oval Office soon after he took office in January 2017. Speaking with Vermillion resident Mitchell Olson during the filming of a carpool karaoke show, Noem described her first brush with the concept of "Mount Trumpmore" being erected atop the 77-year-old Keystone, South Dakota, landmark.

"He said, 'Kristi, come on over here. Shake my hand,'" Noem said, according to an Argus Leader report. "I shook his hand, and I said, 'Mr. President, you should come to South Dakota sometime. We have Mount Rushmore.' And he goes, 'Do you know it's my dream to have my face on Mount Rushmore?'"

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That would be awesome!

[F2d5thCav]

Hmm.  I think LONG VIEW is important in modifying a monument as significant as Mount Rushmore.  I would not advocate adding "anyone" to that monument until perhaps 50 years or so after their term in office.

Cheers

[Mystic Wanderer]

Hmm.  I think LONG VIEW is important in modifying a monument as significant as Mount Rushmore.  I would not advocate adding "anyone" to that monument until perhaps 50 years or so after their term in office.

Cheers

But wouldn't it be glorious watching all the far left socialists liberals having a melt down?  

 

[F2d5thCav]

Yes, there would be a huge freak-out, heh.

Cheers

[guohua]

The Men who Saved a Nation!

[xuenchen]

Put zer0Bama on Mt Rushmore and watch a volcano and a major Earthquake strike at the same time !!

[ChiefD]

Oh, you all are gonna hate me for this, but I think Obama would be a terrific addition to Mt. Rushmore! I hope nobody’s head explodes when they see this post. If they do, I apologize in advance. 

Hey, I’m a democrat. So call me crazy, but there it is. I’ve always wanted to visit Mt. Rushmore, and I still do.

[beez]

Oh, you all are gonna hate me for this, but I think Obama would be a terrific addition to Mt. Rushmore! I hope nobody’s head explodes when they see this post. If they do, I apologize in advance. 

Hey, I’m a democrat. So call me crazy, but there it is. I’ve always wanted to visit Mt. Rushmore, and I still do.

I'm always going to side for more free expression rather than less, so if they want Barky on a mountain, go for it.

[Wallfire]

I just think mount Rushmore should be as it is and never changed. Could always build new mounts.
Mount I love oral sex Clinton
Back to the 60s Obama
I love malaria meds Trump
Me and my dad Bush

[Bally002]

I think the granite is the wrong shade.  Perhaps a dark volcano ash pile would make a good place to sculpture an effigy of Obama.

My thoughts,

Bally

[Ninurta]

Oh, you all are gonna hate me for this, but I think Obama would be a terrific addition to Mt. Rushmore! I hope nobody’s head explodes when they see this post. If they do, I apologize in advance. 

Hey, I’m a democrat. So call me crazy, but there it is. I’ve always wanted to visit Mt. Rushmore, and I still do.

Nah, I don't hate you. I wonder WHY folks think Obama should be up there, but I don't hate 'em for it. I make allowances.

Most of the presidents up there had some accomplishment in favor of the nation under their belt, but Obama has no such accomplishment. To be entirely honest, I question why in the world Teddy Roosevelt is there - he never did anything important for the nation that I know of that was unique to him, and not shared by a few hundred thousand others.

For a while I thought Reagan should be up there, because we appeared to have defeated communism under Reagan, but now I see we did not defeat it, we just drove it underground where it could fester and re-erupt later, right here at home. So I don't even think Reagan has a place there. 

I don't think Lincoln belongs there, either, but I'm in the minority opinion on that it seems. His side says "well he preserved a nation", but from my perspective he did no such thing - he forcibly annexed a foreign nation and then set the stage for draconian rule of the new nation he forged from the annexation. If he belongs there, then so does Attila the Hun and Geghis Khan, because they did the same things Lincoln did.

So my stance in the matter is: leave it alone. Neither add anyone in that some folks think "ought" to be there, nor erase anyone from it who some folks think ought NOT to be there. Just let it stand as it is. If anyone needs more memorials, just make them - don't change the ones we already have.

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[Lumenari]

Oh, you all are gonna hate me for this, but I think Obama would be a terrific addition to Mt. Rushmore! I hope nobody’s head explodes when they see this post. If they do, I apologize in advance. 

Hey, I’m a democrat. So call me crazy, but there it is. I’ve always wanted to visit Mt. Rushmore, and I still do.

The beautiful part about America used to be that we could have different political opinions without hating each other.

Nowadays that seems to not be the norm, but I still feel that way.

So no hate for you here at all.

Although I do agree with the other posters on the thread that we should leave Mt Rushmore alone and if we want to make more monuments then we should just make more at other sites.

No matter who the next "nominee" is.

[guohua]

@"ChiefD" 
No, I couldn't Hate You for liking Obama.
As far as on Mount Rushmore, Ok, with Bars in front of him.

[Snarl]

Hey, I’m a democrat. So call me crazy, but there it is.

Nope!!  Echo chambers are ... well ... echoey.

[Captain Chaos]

Oh fuck me. I don't like the four faces that are on it now. I didn't think that eyesore could get worse but I guess I was wrong.

Why do I hate them?

“The immediate objectives are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible. It will be essential to ruin their crops in the ground and prevent their planting more.”

-George Washington ( He wanted the captives for slaves, by the way.)



“This unfortunate race, whom we had been taking so much pains to save and to civilize, have by their unexpected desertion and ferocious barbarities justified extermination and now await our decision on their fate."
-Thomas Jefferson



Then there's the largest mass execution in US history.
That one's on Lincoln. I bet the Dakotas (whose sacred mountain was desecrated to make that monstrosity)  love that.  I bet it's like having the conqueror's knee firmly on their necks.

Oh, let's not forget Teddy.
“The settler and pioneer have at bottom had justice on their side; this great continent could not have been kept as nothing but a game preserve for squalid savages. Moreover, to the most oppressed Indian nations the whites often acted as a protection, or, at least, they deferred instead of hastening their fate.”

I'll make this a twofer.

"I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every 10 are."

That's why the Sioux, who still hold the mountain sacred and want the whole thing gone-and have for decades, don't like it. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you? Also, there's a damn pandemic going on and they're getting hit hard. They don't want or need large groups of people there. They really don't. I know that wiping Indians out with disease used to be a thing but come on.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Oh fuck me. I don't like the four faces that are on it now. I didn't think that eyesore could get worse but I guess I was wrong.

Why do I hate them?

“The immediate objectives are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible. It will be essential to ruin their crops in the ground and prevent their planting more.”

-George Washington ( He wanted the captives for slaves, by the way.)



“This unfortunate race, whom we had been taking so much pains to save and to civilize, have by their unexpected desertion and ferocious barbarities justified extermination and now await our decision on their fate."
-Thomas Jefferson



Then there's the [/url][url=https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/stories/the-largest-mass-execution-in-us-history]largest mass execution in US history.
That one's on Lincoln. I bet the Dakotas (whose sacred mountain was desecrated to make that monstrosity)  love that.  I bet it's like having the conqueror's knee firmly on their necks.

Oh, let's not forget Teddy.
“The settler and pioneer have at bottom had justice on their side; this great continent could not have been kept as nothing but a game preserve for squalid savages. Moreover, to the most oppressed Indian nations the whites often acted as a protection, or, at least, they deferred instead of hastening their fate.”

I'll make this a twofer.

"I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every 10 are."

That's why the Sioux, who still hold the mountain sacred and want the whole thing gone-and have for decades, don't like it. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you? Also, there's a damn pandemic going on and they're getting hit hard. They don't want or need large groups of people there. They really don't. I know that wiping Indians out with disease used to be a thing but come on.

Maybe listen to why they were put there in the first place. None of our past Presidents were without flaws, but they were the ones who insured us the great nation we have today, or HAD back before Bush Sr. started infiltrating our government with CIA. 

Just listen...

[Captain Chaos]

There were great nations here already. What's left of them are on reservations.

[Mystic Wanderer]

There were great nations here already. What's left of them are on reservations.

I can't argue with that, but what's done is done. I've always felt terrible about how we treated the Native Americans.

My point is, if you want to know why those particular men are on Mt. Rushmore, then listen to President Trump tell you.
He does a great job going over what each man contributed to our country to make it great.

[Captain Chaos]

Oh I heard him. What was intelligible didn't convince me. They were terrible people. The thing is an eyesore. They desecrated a sacred mountain to build it, and as I said, it's a symbol of the conqueror's knee being placed firmly on Native people's necks.

[Wallfire]

Oh I heard him. What was intelligible didn't convince me. They were terrible people. The thing is an eyesore. They desecrated a sacred mountain to build it, and as I said, it's a symbol of the conqueror's knee being placed firmly on Native people's necks.

Well if you are going to go down that road, you will have to remember the Irish, Scots, Welsh, Armenians. There is a very very long listof oppressed people in the world.
Thing is we should not try and live in the past nor apply our morals to the past. Each age have there own morals. Learn from the past but dont live in it