a possible increase of 30% for your electric bill

[727Sky]

Australia went big time into renewable energy and now they have some serious electric and gas bills according to my Australian friends. I guess a few places in America are going to be seeing a serious increase in their power bills too. 

The last stateside house I lived in when we were gone the average electric bill was $39 a month.. The utility put a smart meter on the house (I told them I did not want a stupid smart meter ) ...Our electric bill went from $39 to $89 when we were gone. !! When we were stateside and it was summer the Electric bill ran around $400+ a month (I keep wanting to say we saw some $600 a month bills but I am not sure) as I usually forget unpleasantness or stuff that pisses me off.. The house was a big two story which had a new energy efficient central air conditioner new stucco with double insulation !!.. I think we kept the vents close upstairs most of the time and just cooled the bottom floors.
Heat rises and you could feel the difference when you climbed the stairs.
Here I have 4 air conditioners which there is always at least one running 24/7 70% of the time... The highest electric bill I have ever received amounted to just about $125.. 

I figure once the Dems get in power their green new deal will make this Possible increase a walk in the park

"A Storm Waiting To Happen": The Average American's Power Bill Is About To Rise As Much As 30%



by Tyler Durden
Fri, 07/03/2020 - 21:25

     

Today in "The Fed can't find inflation anywhere" news, it looks as though the average American's 2020 is going to go from bad to worse. Bloomberg is reporting that with rising temperatures during what is expected to be a blistering summer, most consumers are about to face "sharp increases" in electric bills that could "drive some to the brink of financial ruin". 
That's a serious claim to make about a power bill, but the facts are there to back it up. People that are stuck at home instead of at the office this summer are going to depend on air conditioners far more than they used to. This will drive up power bills by "25% in parts of the U.S.," according to the report. This comes at a time where about 50 million people are experiencing financial hardships.
Working from home has already increased residential demand for electricity by 15% during work hours, according to Innowatts, a utility consultant. Con Ed has warned customers bills could go up 10% this summer and in California, the average bill may rise by 25% to over $200, the state's Public Utilities Commission has warned. 
In parts of the U.S. south, prices could rise as much as 30%, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists. 

The increases could amount to as much as $50 per month, the report says, and will disproportionately affect many who are already struggling through the pandemic.  

Sindy Benavides, chief executive officer of the League of United Latin American Citizens said: “There will be people faced with figuring out whether to pay their bill or put food on the table. It’s a storm waiting to happen.”
Lower income families spend about 9% of their budget on energy bills, according to the report. The problem disproportionately affects Black and Hispanic families who are twice as likely to live in poverty, according to the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy and the U.S. Census Bureau.
Jacqui Patterson, director of the NAACP’s environmental and climate justice program, said: “People will start to make very tough choices. It’s another situation where people are paying the price of poverty with their lives.”

A long hot summer is being predicted for most of the U.S. this year and places like California have already dealt with two serious heat waves. New York, Boston and Philadelphia have already reached or exceeded 90 degrees this year. 
Jim Rouiller, lead forecaster at the Energy Weather Group, said: “We have made the turn into what is going to become a long summer of heat.”
Jeremiah Bohr, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Wisconsin, Oshkosh concluded: “It highlights the larger issue of how difficult it is to make ends meet.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finan...se-much-30

[Ninurta]

I grew up frequently ignoring electricity, 'cause it wasn't there to notice. They can do this price hike if they like, but it won't affect me other than letting the internet go because - no electricity to run it. I know how to stay cool, I know how to get light, and I don't need electricity for either of those.

The down side for them is no longer being able to track me, because - no internet, no juice, no nothing. They might THINK they could track my phone, but if there's no juice to charge it, there's no reason to take it with me to be tracked. They'd have to get their asses out in the heat to find out where I was and what I'm up to. A very unpleasant prospect for them, but I can hide if they can stand to seek.

Now the State is screwing with my pension again, so no money to pay their highway robbery electric rates anyhow.


Seriously, folks - screw with my juice. See how that goes for you - I already know it'll go fine for me. Been there, done that, checked it off and got the t-shirt. Yeah, I know how to get heat in the winter without it, too, there ain't no lessons y'all think you can teach me in the matter that are going to take.

Go ahead, ya bastards. Cut off my money, cut off my electricity, keep thinking you'll bring me to my knees. It ain't gonna happen. All you'll do is lose track of me - I'll be doing fine, and still doing as I please, unsupervised. That can get very bad for YOU, not so much for ME.

Come at me, bro.

.

[ChiefD]

We’re barely halfway through October, and have already gotten some snow. It’s been very cold for this time of the year, even for Wisconsin. I have electric baseboard heat, which is already obscenely expensive. I only have five of my seven heating units turned on at any given time in the winter. I keep my thermostat at 60F, unless it’s 20 below zero, then I might crank one room to 65F. Even doing that, my electric bill runs $250/month in the winter for an 1100 square foot condo. I try and wait until November 1 to turn on any heat, and try to turn it back off mid April. 

This year is going to be bad. I don’t know what else I can do to keep my electric bill down. I will be wearing 3-4 layers most days, will be covered in blankets. I hope and pray we have a milder winter, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen.

[Snarl]

They're not gonna quit until all of the plebs have spent all their cash. These assholes are relentless. We've got serious inflation now. When it is accepted as the new norm by the middle class ... buckle up for the hyperinflation.

You wanna find out what life is like with no affordable electricity? Shut it off for a couple days and see. If they end my expectation of using electricity, I am fully prepared to end electricity for everyone I can possible affect. All it takes is a rifle and knowing where the the x-fer lines are run. You wanna cause chaos? Take out the lines leading away from a nuclear energy plant.

Begin ranting:

The best trick is to find 'your way' to get out of paying taxes ... and become self-sufficient. Stop buying _crap_ and convert some of your fiat currency into stuff you can barter with or store long-term while you still can. Especially things you know you're not gonna find locally or stuff you're gonna use up. Cooking oil, sugar, salt (lots of salt), beans, rice ... are all affordable and serve well as hold-out rations. Develop a method of collecting and storing a LOT of water. Worry about purifying it later ... but, don't forget you need more water than you think you need right now.

I've set aside a ton of reloading components and a respectable stash of arrows. If you don't yet have tools for harvesting wood ... get them now while they're available ... you'll need an axe, a saw and a maul ... don't forget extra handles and metal wedges.  Might be good to have a file on-hand for sharpening. Good to have a rake and a tarp for hauling smaller sticks and kindling. Get yourself a shovel, a couple 2X4s and a sheet of 3/4in plywood in case you need to bury something you don't want other people to get at. Seek and find a wood-burning stove (you don't even have to have this indoors ... though it's really nice if you can).

If you live anywhere near where you've seen deer ... buy stuff that will draw them in.  Deer have a sense of smell that's equivalent to our ability to see (around corners even).  You toss some deer corn up in the air at dusk, they will smell it and come right in. Voilà ... you've got a freezer full of non-GMO meat. Got no electricity for your freezer? ... See the reference to salt above. Buy yourself a 50lb bag of birdseed and feed the doves. A simple weighted net can bag you a dozen with a quick snatch of a line. You just have to set the stage for when the play is gonna start.

End rant.

The things you depend on ... that you can't control ... are designed to strip you bare.

[NightskyeB4Dawn]

I grew up frequently ignoring electricity, 'cause it wasn't there to notice. They can do this price hike if they like, but it won't affect me other than letting the internet go because - no electricity to run it. I know how to stay cool, I know how to get light, and I don't need electricity for either of those.

The down side for them is no longer being able to track me, because - no internet, no juice, no nothing. They might THINK they could track my phone, but if there's no juice to charge it, there's no reason to take it with me to be tracked. They'd have to get their asses out in the heat to find out where I was and what I'm up to. A very unpleasant prospect for them, but I can hide if they can stand to seek.

Now the State is screwing with my pension again, so no money to pay their highway robbery electric rates anyhow.


Seriously, folks - screw with my juice. See how that goes for you - I already know it'll go fine for me. Been there, done that, checked it off and got the t-shirt. Yeah, I know how to get heat in the winter without it, too, there ain't no lessons y'all think you can teach me in the matter that are going to take.

Go ahead, ya bastards. Cut off my money, cut off my electricity, keep thinking you'll bring me to my knees. It ain't gonna happen. All you'll do is lose track of me - I'll be doing fine, and still doing as I please, unsupervised. That can get very bad for YOU, not so much for ME.

Come at me, bro.

.

I have been preparing for what is coming for a long time. I am not saying it is going to be easy, but I will survive. I will have a phone because my job gave us a pay increase to cover that. In cases of emergencies, I will likely be able to get my gas from the county.

I have lived for months without electricity, it really is not as big of a deal as most people think it is. I have a Mennonite neighbor. They work with and during natural light. Up with the sun and to bed when the sun goes down. As far as heating, that may be a big problem in very cold areas. Air conditioning is nice but rarely is it deadly to go without it. In fact, most folk will be surprised at how quickly they can acclimate to life without a/c.

[BIAD]

It's comical really, think how much electricity could be saved by simply shutting down television-networks
for a few days and nights. Their premise is based on broadcasting and having nothing to receive, their
viewers would also save electricity by not having their TV sets on!

But they won't, competitive sports and their electricity-guzzling arenas will continue and those who show
the games will just ignore the alleged cost of producing such entertainment. However, they will offer -via
their news programmes, the viewer another bout of guilt for not being frugal with the valuable commodity.

Commercial aircraft will fly, airports will stay lit through the night and famous landmarks will be illuminated
in the name of tourism. 'Lead by example' used to be a thing.


One may notice the 'Green' lobbyists of wind and solar farms have gone quiet at the moment. Regardless
of the shortage of these power-making applications, they're fully aware that such an undertaking of running
a country with them won't work. Sadly, the politicians and social-media made it a tribal issue where one must
be on one side or the other of the argument of having weather has the deal-breaker on keeping the lights on.

[Ninurta]

The best trick is to find 'your way' to get out of paying taxes ... and become self-sufficient. Stop buying _crap_ and convert some of your fiat currency into stuff you can barter with or store long-term while you still can. Especially things you know you're not gonna find locally or stuff you're gonna use up. Cooking oil, sugar, salt (lots of salt), beans, rice ... are all affordable and serve well as hold-out rations. Develop a method of collecting and storing a LOT of water. Worry about purifying it later ... but, don't forget you need more water than you think you need right now.



I've set aside a ton of reloading components and a respectable stash of arrows. If you don't yet have tools for harvesting wood ... get them now while they're available ... you'll need an axe, a saw and a maul ... don't forget extra handles and metal wedges.  Might be good to have a file on-hand for sharpening. Good to have a rake and a tarp for hauling smaller sticks and kindling. Get yourself a shovel, a couple 2X4s and a sheet of 3/4in plywood in case you need to bury something you don't want other people to get at. Seek and find a wood-burning stove (you don't even have to have this indoors ... though it's really nice if you can).



If you live anywhere near where you've seen deer ... buy stuff that will draw them in.  Deer have a sense of smell that's equivalent to our ability to see (around corners even).  You toss some deer corn up in the air at dusk, they will smell it and come right in. Voilà ... you've got a freezer full of non-GMO meat. Got no electricity for your freezer? ... See the reference to salt above. Buy yourself a 50lb bag of birdseed and feed the doves. A simple weighted net can bag you a dozen with a quick snatch of a line. You just have to set the stage for when the play is gonna start.

I live in "salt lick" country. These hollers were originally settled by a couple of brothers, "Long Hunters", who were drawn here by the abundance of game brought in by the salt licks. It's just a matter of finding a spring near a lick and rendering the salt out of the water.

I frequently see deer in my yard, or just outside the perimeter fence trying to figure out how to get in. And then there are the bears. There's a lot of meat, and a lot of fat, on a bear.

I know how to make jerky, and pemmican. Not a great taste, Kind of bland, but it'll keep your belt buckle from slapping your backbone around.

I never was able to get used to A/C, so I don't have it. We've got one unit, a window unit, in Grace's son's room, but he keeps the door shut when it's running so i don't get froze out. Heat's more of a problem - plenty of wood here, but the wood stove got taken out years and years ago, so I've not got one. Push comes to shove, I reckon I can make one, though.

I've got a couple pounds of powder, and the stuff to make a few more pounds if I need it. What I need most firearms-wise right now is a few ingots of pure soft lead.

We had scads and scads of black walnuts last year, but not so many this year. That's the way nature will do you sometimes. Throw stuff in stores when you can get it, for use when you can't.

.

[Snarl]

The best trick is to find 'your way' to get out of paying taxes ... and become self-sufficient. Stop buying _crap_ and convert some of your fiat currency into stuff you can barter with or store long-term while you still can. Especially things you know you're not gonna find locally or stuff you're gonna use up. Cooking oil, sugar, salt (lots of salt), beans, rice ... are all affordable and serve well as hold-out rations. Develop a method of collecting and storing a LOT of water. Worry about purifying it later ... but, don't forget you need more water than you think you need right now.

I've set aside a ton of reloading components and a respectable stash of arrows. If you don't yet have tools for harvesting wood ... get them now while they're available ... you'll need an axe, a saw and a maul ... don't forget extra handles and metal wedges.  Might be good to have a file on-hand for sharpening. Good to have a rake and a tarp for hauling smaller sticks and kindling. Get yourself a shovel, a couple 2X4s and a sheet of 3/4in plywood in case you need to bury something you don't want other people to get at. Seek and find a wood-burning stove (you don't even have to have this indoors ... though it's really nice if you can).

If you live anywhere near where you've seen deer ... buy stuff that will draw them in.  Deer have a sense of smell that's equivalent to our ability to see (around corners even).  You toss some deer corn up in the air at dusk, they will smell it and come right in. Voilà ... you've got a freezer full of non-GMO meat. Got no electricity for your freezer? ... See the reference to salt above. Buy yourself a 50lb bag of birdseed and feed the doves. A simple weighted net can bag you a dozen with a quick snatch of a line. You just have to set the stage for when the play is gonna start.

I live in "salt lick" country. These hollers were originally settled by a couple of brothers, "Long Hunters", who were drawn here by the abundance of game brought in by the salt licks. It's just a matter of finding a spring near a lick and rendering the salt out of the water.

I frequently see deer in my yard, or just outside the perimeter fence trying to figure out how to get in. And then there are the bears. There's a lot of meat, and a lot of fat, on a bear.

I know how to make jerky, and pemmican. Not a great taste, Kind of bland, but it'll keep your belt buckle from slapping your backbone around.

I never was able to get used to A/C, so I don't have it. We've got one unit, a window unit, in Grace's son's room, but he keeps the door shut when it's running so i don't get froze out. Heat's more of a problem - plenty of wood here, but the wood stove got taken out years and years ago, so I've not got one. Push comes to shove, I reckon I can make one, though.

I've got a couple pounds of powder, and the stuff to make a few more pounds if I need it. What I need most firearms-wise right now is a few ingots of pure soft lead.

We had scads and scads of black walnuts last year, but not so many this year. That's the way nature will do you sometimes. Throw stuff in stores when you can get it, for use when you can't.

.

My chestnut tree dropped a bunch of pods, but all the nuts were about a quarter normal size ... probably the dry Summer. I set out 50lb blocks for the livestock and critters. They cost about $10 and usually last more than a year. Last month I set out a white lick down by the creek, but nothing seems to be interested in it. The corn I drop around it is all gone every morning so I know they know it's there.

Been feeding the backyard deer. Got five bucks and four does that come up nightly. I think there are a couple of big bucks too, but I haven't caught them on camera. They're wise and skittish at that level of maturity. Will put out some peanut butter and see if that draws them in. I figure they're already pretty hungry this year and I'm just gonna eat the cost of keeping 'em fat and healthy.

Hmmm ... can't get a pic to post for some reason.

[Finspiracy]

Child's play.

Amateur hour.

30% Well, boo hoo.

2 months of electricity here used to cost me 60 euros. Now it is 170 euros.

Not deeply sorry for your loss.