More Proof

[guohua]

I know many of you don't believe Obama is an Illegal, but we do!

Especially after this.
  

Now for the newest information just released.

An investigator who was commissioned by now-retired Sheriff Joe Arpaio to find out whether the document President Obama presented as his birth certificate is real says there’s now a 10th feature of the document that shows it’s fraudulent.
Investigator Mike Zullo, who joined with Arpaio in a Dec. 15 news conference disclosing nine other elements that experts concluded were copied to create Obama’s document, released a video to WND explaining the additional evidence.

It explains that two stamps on the Obama document not only were identical in angle to the stamps on another birth certificate – that of Johanna Ah’nee from the same time period – they also had the identical vertical relationship.

This despite the fact that the “stamps” purportedly were hand applied days apart.
“What are the odds that both the stamps in box 20 and the stamps in box 22 would have the exact same corresponding angles even though they were stamped 16 days apart?” the video asks.

That means they almost certainly were digitally copied from the Ah’nee certificate then dragged together and pasted onto Obama’s, the video explains.
Zullo explained that the fact the two stamps are an exact match vertically reveals that they were taken as a group.

“The fact that there is no vertical displacement indicates the exact vertical and horizontal alignment of the stamps are an exact copy from the Ah’nee certificate … reinforcing the claim that the Ah’nee [document] is without question a source document.”

It eliminates, too, he said, any chance that the date stamps were placed by hand on the Obama document.

That makes sense, how could two stamps be in the Identical location if applied by hand and not machine?

See the demonstration:

 To See The Demonstration go to the: Source

[Mystic Wanderer]

Once the information about his birth certificate started coming out, I knew right then he was a "plant" put there by the Elite to carry out their mission of ushering in the NWO.

But... what can we peons do but offer the truth to closed eyes unwilling to see? 

It gets damned frustrating!!

[BIAD]

Once the information about his birth certificate started coming out, I knew right then he was a "plant" put her by the Elite to carry out their mission of ushering in the NWO.

But... what can we peons do but offer the truth to closed eyes unwilling to see? 

It gets damned frustrating!!

I did some looking into it and I'd be interested in Ninurta's take on this.

It seemed very unusual and the apparent 'errors' that many say about
his National Insurance number and other things is just too much of a
coincidence.

The scary fallout of this is ever revealed in mainstream media would make
a mockery of the rules and standing regarding the USA in the global view.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Once the information about his birth certificate started coming out, I knew right then he was a "plant" put her by the Elite to carry out their mission of ushering in the NWO.

But... what can we peons do but offer the truth to closed eyes unwilling to see? 

It gets damned frustrating!!

I did some looking into it and I'd be interested in Ninurta's take on this.

It seemed very unusual and the apparent 'errors' that many say about
his National Insurance number and other things is just too much of a
coincidence.

The scary fallout of this is ever revealed in mainstream media would make
a mockery of the rules and standing regarding the USA in the global view.

This is one of those things I expect to come out when Disclosure happens.  It's not just about "aliens" from outer space, but also those we have in our government... the human kind.  

Could this be why Obama is going to build a large wall around the house he's moving to?    Might be a good idea when people learn the truth.

[727Sky]

[guohua]

Excellent video @"727Sky" 
I'm surprised it's still up.

[Ninurta]

Once the information about his birth certificate started coming out, I knew right then he was a "plant" put her by the Elite to carry out their mission of ushering in the NWO.

But... what can we peons do but offer the truth to closed eyes unwilling to see? 

It gets damned frustrating!!

I did some looking into it and I'd be interested in Ninurta's take on this.

It seemed very unusual and the apparent 'errors' that many say about
his National Insurance number and other things is just too much of a
coincidence.

The scary fallout of this is ever revealed in mainstream media would make
a mockery of the rules and standing regarding the USA in the global view.

"What can we peons do?" Nothing. Why bother? Ignore the bastards, and if they make that impossible, take a few out to reinforce your point. Other humans have only the power you give them over you. Take that power back by seeing them for the irrelevant smudges they are.

By "National Insurance Number" I presume you mean what we call a "Social Security Number", which is alleged to be an insurance of sorts, allegedly providing for us in our old age. It's just a number. I have two different ones myself, and one of my ex wives had two as well. Both (well, all 4) of those numbers are attached to different identities, and the wonder is that the same government issued all 4 of them legitimately and knowingly to the same people, under different names. The big difference in mine and Obama's is that mine never belonged to anyone else but me. Same for my ex wife's numbers. Never belonged to anyone but her, albeit under different names. Obama's, on the other hand, all belonged to previous persons as I understand it. I've heard that his came from his days as a CIA spy in Peshawar in the early 80's, but that tale is utter and complete bullshit. Reissuing previously used numbers is not the CIA way. It's too easy to get busted like that.

Once upon a time in America, some underworld types would forge new identities based upon the identities of deceased children, kids who died in infancy or youth. You just perused a graveyard for a kid who died at the right time to coincide with your own age, got his birth certificate, and used that to build all the supporting documentation to become a new you. My best guess is that's where Obama's numbers came from... but that ain't the CIA way. Like I said, too easy to get busted when some bottom-dwelling bureaucrat came across "your" death certificate as well.

The CIA has recourse to all manner of governmental chicanery, and among that is the means to get brand spankin' new, never before used, SSN's to preclude such an eventuality. Obama's many extra SSN's were not actual government issue - they were stolen... else he'd have never been caught with them.

That tells me that whomever was pulling Obama's strings, it was not some sort of hidden cabal or any governmental poachers. If I had to guess, I'd say they came from some 1950's and 1960's communists with a long-term plan of overthrow, as 1950's and 1960's communists were wont to do.


.

[BIAD]

...By "National Insurance Number" I presume you mean what we call a "Social Security Number"...

I will refrain from using the 'You-say-potato, I say Portarto' and nod in agreement!

...That tells me that whomever was pulling Obama's strings, it was not some sort of hidden cabal or any governmental poachers.
If I had to guess, I'd say they came from some 1950's and 1960's communists with a long-term plan of overthrow, as 1950's and
1960's communists were wont to do....

Again, I think you're right.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Bombshell: Evidence of CIA Role in Forging Obama’s Birth Certificate

Government computers illegally hacked Hawaii Dept. of Health
Jerome Corsi | Infowars.com - December 12, 2017

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Infowars.com has learned former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigators had discovered bombshell evidence that the CIA and or other government entities illegally hacked into Hawaii Department of Health records searching for birth records on Barack Obama.

According to information received by the investigators, the government breaches began on Nov. 14, 2008, just after Obama won his first presidential election, and continued until Jan. 12, 2011, three months before the White House released a computer version of what President Obama claimed was his authentic “Long-Form Birth Certificate” from 1961.

Michael Zullo, formerly the commander and chief investigator of the Cold Case Posse (CCP), a special investigative group created in 2006 in the office of Joseph M. Arpaio, formerly the sheriff in Maricopa County, an Arizona State Certified Law Enforcement Agency, headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona, provided Infowars.com sections of an electronic surveillance database created by whistleblower, Dennis Montgomery, in 2013.

The electronic surveillance database, provided to Zullo in late 2013  by a then-confidential informant, Dennis Montgomery, working with the sheriff’s office  was apparently created by the NSA as part of the NSA’s illegal and unconstitutional Project Dragnet electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens, first revealed by news reports published in 2005, as further documented by the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013.

As Infowars.com reported in June, the decision of a federal court to take the case of former contractor Dennis Montgomery advances the story Infowars.com reported in March that the National Security Agency illegally conducted surveillance of potentially millions of citizens for years, with a database that suggests both Donald J. Trump and Alex Jones were under unauthorized government monitoring.

Represented by well-known conservative attorney Larry Klayman, Montgomery ultimately turned over to the FBI 47 hard drives including information he supplied to Zullo concerning Obama’s fraudulent birth certificate and highly classified information he had removed from the NSA.
 As reported by Circa on June 6, 2017, Montgomery divulged to the FBI “a pattern and practice of conducting illegal, unconstitutional surveillance against millions of Americans, including prominent Americans such as the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen, and others such as Donald J. Trump, as well as Plaintiffs themselves.”

Montgomery and Klayman are now involved in a federal lawsuit that Circa reported is being heard in U.S. District Court “by the same federal judge who has already ruled that some of the NSA’s collection of data on Americans violates the U.S. Constitution’s Fourth Amendment, setting up an intriguing legal proceeding in the nation’s capital this summer.”

On Dec. 15, 2016, Arpaio and Zullo held a press conference releasing the results of a multiple-year forensic investigation concluding the computer image that Barack Obama released on April 27, 2011, of his alleged Long-Form Birth Certificate (LFBC) was a forgery.
The evidence Arpaio and Zullo have now released to Infowars.com strongly suggests the CIA played a role in the forgery.

It's a long article, and gets even better as you keep reading.  Click on the link Here

[Mystic Wanderer]

Came across this on Twitter today.  Found on http://Pacer.gov : The first case filed against Obama naming him BARRY SOETORO in 2008. US District Court District of Columbia Case #1:08-cv-02254-JR  by member Tam. 

[BIAD]

Thanks to Mystic for the link, I believe -just as the author of this piece, that the US constitution was
abused to allow a non-citizen of the United States to be President.

Look at the players and ask why.

Obama Was Hand-Picked, Was NOT a Natural Born Citizen, Congress Knew It, and Tried to Protect Him.

'Let’s kick a dead horse.

The debate is settled and the damage is done. But who thinks Obama was eligible to be president?

Trending: Washington Times awakens to the truth that once seemed bizarre: Obama was a “sleeper cell”
in the White House

Even President Donald Trump questioned Obama’s citizenship in 2014 by offering $50 Million to see his
college records, but Obama never responded to his offer. Nothing has been done to this point.
And sadly, nothing ever will.

Let me show you today how Congress protected him from both sides of the aisle and guaranteed the debate
would never go too far. In 1975 a representative named Joe Bingham introduced an amendment to remove the
“natural born citizen” constitutional requirement to become President.

Why is that important?
Because it was not until almost 30 years later that the issue would be addressed again.
And it was not addressed only once, but multiple times. This is all part of congressional record.
Remarkably, it just so happened to coincide with the meteoric rise of a man named Barack Obama who would
benefit greatly from the happenings by gaining his spot in the Oval Office.

I am about to share with you a brilliant piece of research from the Article II Political Action Committee. After reading
it the foremost question on my mind is, “If the natural born citizen definition only requires one citizen parent then why
did they seemingly try so hard to change the law for Barack Obama?”

There are multiple links to official congressional documents throughout, contained in the research below, so I would
urge you to draw your own conclusions.

But from my point of view this research either strongly, or at least partly, validates the following conclusions:

1. Barack Obama was hand-picked to be President.
2. Some members of Congress, on both sides, understood that Obama was not “natural born” and tried to pass laws
to pave the way for his arrival.
3. In the end they used a deflection tactic to shine light on John McCain’s eligibility status, hoping that Obama’s own
status would not be brought into question.
It appears to have worked.

Below is a lengthy excerpt from “Article II Facts” hosted on the site of the Article II Political Action Committee.
If you like what you read, I would encourage you to consider a donation to their cause.
...........................................

Let’s take a trip back through recent history:

"Attempts to redefine or amend Article II “natural born Citizen” Clause of the U.S. Constitution:

The effort to remove the natural-born citizen requirement from the U.S. Constitution actually began
in 1975 –when Democrat House Rep. Jonathon B. Bingham, [NY-22] introduced a constitutional
amendment underH.J.R. 33: which called for the outright removal of the natural-born requirement
for president found in Article II of the U.S. Constitution –“Provides that a citizen of the United States
otherwise eligible to hold the Office of President shall not be ineligible because such citizen is not
a natural born citizen.”

Bingham’s first attempt failed and he resurrected H.J.R. 33: in 1977 under H.J.R. 38:, again failing
to gain support from members of congress.

Bingham was a Yale Law grad and member of the secret society Skull and Bones, later a lecturer at
Columbia Law and thick as thieves with the United Nations via his membership in the Council on Foreign
Relations.

Bingham’s work lay dormant for twenty-six years when it was resurrected again in 2003 as Democrat
members of Congress made no less than eight (8) attempts in twenty-two (22) months, to either eliminate
the natural-born requirement, or redefine natural-born to accommodate Barack Hussein Obama II in
advance of his rise to power. The evidence is right in the congressional record…

1. On June 11, 2003 Democrat House member Vic Snyder [AR-2] introduced H.J.R 59: in the 108th Congress
–“Constitutional Amendment –Makes a person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 35 years
and who has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years eligible to hold the office of President
or Vice President.”
– Co-Sponsors: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]; Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10]; Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4];
Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]; Rep LaHood, Ray [IL-18]; Rep Shays, Christopher [CT-4].

2. On September 3, 2003, Rep. John Conyers [MI] introduced H.J.R. 67: –“Constitutional Amendment –Makes a
person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 20 years eligible to hold the office of President.”
–Co-Sponsor Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27]

3. On February 25, 2004, Republican Senator Don Nickles [OK] attempted to counter the growing Democrat
onslaught aimed at removing the natural-born citizen requirement for president in S.2128: –“Natural Born
Citizen Act –Defines the constitutional term “natural born citizen,” to establish eligibility for the Office of President”
–also getting the definition of natural born citizen wrong. – Co-sponsors Sen Inhofe, James M. [OK]; Sen Landrieu,
Mary L. [LA]

4. On September 15, 2004 –as Barack Obama was about to be introduced as the new messiah of the Democrat
Party at the DNC convention, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [CA-46] introduced H.J.R. 104: –“Constitutional Amendment
–“Makes eligible for the Office of the President non-native born persons who have held U.S. citizenship for at least
20 years and who are otherwise eligible to hold such Office.” –No co-sponsors.

5. Again on January 4, 2005, Rep John Conyers [MI] introduced H.J.R. 2: to the 109th Congress –“Constitutional
Amendment –Makes a person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 20 years eligible to hold the
Office of President.” –Co-Sponsor Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27]

6. Rep Dana Rohrabacher [CA-46] tries again on February 1, 2005 in H.J.R. 15: –“Constitutional Amendment –Makes
eligible for the Office of the President non-native born persons who have held U.S. citizenship for at least 20 years and
who are otherwise eligible to hold such Office.” –No Co-Sponsor

7. On April 14, 2005, Rep Vic Snyder [AR-2] tries yet again with H.J.R. 42: –“Constitutional Amendment –Makes a person
who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 35 years and who has been a resident within the United States for
at least 14 years eligible to hold the office of President or Vice President.” –Co-Sponsor Rep Shays, Christopher [CT-4]

8. All of these efforts failing in committee and the 2008 presidential election looming with an unconstitutional candidate
leading the DNC ticket, Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill, [MO] tries to attach the alteration to a military bill in S.2678:
on February 28, 2008 –“Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act –Declares that the term “natural born Citizen”
in article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution, dealing with the criteria for election to President of the United States,
includes any person born to any U.S. citizen while serving in the active or reserve components of the U.S. armed forces.”
–Co-Sponsors DNC Presidential candidate Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY]; DNC Presidential candidate Sen Obama,
Barack [IL]; Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ]; Sen Coburn, Tom.

[OK] –(This was the first effort to also assure that GOP Presidential candidate Sen. John McCain [AZ] would be cleared
to run against the DNC primary victor.)

From June 11, 2003 to February 28, 2008, there had been eight (8) different congressional attempts to alter Article II
–Section I –Clause V –natural born citizen requirements for president in the U.S. Constitution, all of them failing in committee
-All of it taking placing during Barack Obama’s rise to political power and preceding the November 2008 presidential election.

In politics, there are no coincidences… not of this magnitude.

Finally on April 10, 2008, unable to alter or remove the natural born citizen requirement to clear the way for Barack Obama,
the U.S. Senate acts to shift focus before the election, introducing and passing S.R.511: –declaring Sen. John McCain a
“natural born citizen” eligible to run for and hold the office of president.

There was never any honest doubt about McCain, the son of a U.S. Navy Commander.
The Sponsor of the resolution is Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill, [MO]

S.R.511 States that John Sidney McCain, III, is a “natural born Citizen” under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United
States. S.R511passed by a 99-0 unanimous consent of the Senate, with only John McCain not voting.

The basis was – “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens;” –a condition not met by Barack Hussein Obama II.
–Co-Sponsors DNC Presidential candidate Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY]; DNC Presidential candidate Sen Obama, Barack [IL];
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT]; Sen Webb, Jim [VA]; Sen Coburn, Tom.

[OK] (They had made certain that John McCain would run against Barack Obama)

However, in the McCain resolution is also this language –“Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible
for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States; –Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’,
as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;”

The U.S. Constitution is not a dictionary. The definition of “is” is not in the constitution either.
Yet this is the text that would later be issued in Congressional Research Service talking points memos distributed to members of
congress, to protect an individual that all members of congress know and understand to be an “unconstitutional” resident of the
people’s White House –Barack Hussein Obama II.

Once again, as the political left was unable to alter the U.S. Constitution by way of legitimate constitutional process, they resorted to
altering the constitution via precedent setting, in short, knowingly electing and getting away with seating an unconstitutional president
in order to alter Article II requirements for the office via breaking those constitutional requirements.

The press would not ask any questions and the American people were already too ill-informed of their constitution to know or too
distracted by daily life to care. The press would provide the cover, swearing to the lies of an unconstitutional administration put in
power by criminal actors focused only on their lofty political agenda of forever altering the American form of government.

The people would be caught up in a steady diet of daily assaults on their individual freedom and liberty and overlook the most obvious
constitutional crisis in American history, the seating of an unconstitutional and anti-American president. [SOURCE CREDIT]"
...........................................

There you have it. Make of this what you will.

It raises many questions.
Would people like Claire McCaskill and Hillary Clinton really come to John McCain’s aid if they did not have an ulterior motive?

Why were people like Inhofe, Issa, and Rohrabacher either sponsoring or co-sponsoring these pieces of legislation?
After all, these men were later three of Obama’s biggest critics. We heard lots of threats and promises from them that yielded no results.
Could it be that these men are just more shining examples of “all bark and no bite”? (See Definition of “Smoke and Mirrors“)

If it is true that the definition of “natural born citizen” only involves having one citizen parent then why all the fuss?
Obama, questionable Hawaii birth certificate and all, met the requirement of one American citizen parent. Maybe the truth is that it
takes more than that and Congress knew it.

So why was nothing ever done?
Keep searching and settle for nothing less than the truth....'

DCDirtyLaundry.com

There are many interesting links in the original article.