Is Apollo 20 Real?

[guohua]

I've always considered the Apollo 20 video to be a fake, the female alien looks like a wax figure.
But,,,, what if it's not?
 Could it have actually have happened,,,,, there is so much our government doesn't tell us.

One question I did have, maybe it wasn't a spaceship but a large tomb like the pyramids.

[Mystic Wanderer]

What if... indeed!    Who knows?  

I guess we'll find out in another 100 years, because it seems the powers that be won the argument to roll out disclosure a drip at a time so as not to panic the public.  

[BIAD]

This is the problem when dealing with such accounts, the starting-point for a long-term societal-friendly person
reading and evaluating this subject, is that it goes against the grain of what we have accepted.
The latest round of Flat-Earthers are testament to that!

If this and other reports of strange goings-on involving the Apollo missions were true, then it means everything
that we deem as our rational history, human existence and the very way we perceive ourselves within our heads
is effected.

If non-earth Ufos, artifacts on the moon and many other anomalies were real and very powerful people around
the word decided to stifle any such reports, why would they do it...? What would be the reason?

I'd suggest the reason would be all of above.
The uproar would be obvious in religious and global control, the loss of trust in a world-wide social establishment
shouldn't be that much of a problem considering the current climate of change in power-brokering.
But the overall effect would be devastating.

Just as with the Bigfoot phenomena being linked to a human-like creature with the ability to perceive the world
in the way humans do, it's not the discovery of an alien on the moon or a downed flying craft with possible symbols
of information on it's hull that's important, it's what it would mean to us in the form of change.

Everything, every single aspect of every thinking-person's life on this planet would alter. The social rules that we've
been taught would now become debatable. The manner that we live, the class that we perceive ourselves and the
very core of our individuality would on the the table for discussion.

You can forget policing the world, business and religion, that's all swept away at the moment a punk Private turns
over the corpse of something that fell out of a flying saucer. The structure that allows us to go about our everyday
lives will be gone forever and the way we see ourselves as a species and an individual will never-ever be retrievable.

Money will mean nothing, the concept of possessions will no longer exist and your gods, science and even the very
basics of global community values become a mockery because of this single act of finding out what we truly are
in the universe.

It will be utter chaos. It puts everyone on an equal footing. The first-world countries will have the same credibility
as a bare-footed Amazon tribe, imprisoned murderers could argue that their crimes are negated because the
laws broken were created before all the real facts were brought in.

It's said ignorance is bliss and sometimes not knowing what lurks behind the door is a good thing.
Now... what would you do to stop these accounts becoming real? What nuances, trickery and killing would be
deemed acceptable in order to keep the world turning as it is?

Remember, everything that came before and everything that lies ahead, depends upon your decision.

[guohua]

@"BIAD" 
Yes, if those stories are true and the pictures of moon bases are true,, then the religious structure and teachings must be abandoned or changed to account for the existence of Aliens.
The Adam and Eve creation story would need to be rewrote.
The Truth Will Set US Free!!!

[BIAD]

Connected to the female allegedly found on the moon.

Mona Lisa, the Alien Girl Apollo 20 Found on the Moon.

'At the center of one of the most controversial conspiracy theory lies the notorious Apollo 20 mission,
along with the strange things it found on the far side of the Moon.

In 1972, NASA shut down the Apollo Program. Budget cuts due to money being needed elsewhere and
the public losing its interest was the official explanation. But not everyone was convinced this was the truth.

Many conspiracy theorists became convinced the space program continued covertly and that Apollo 18
and 19 found evidence of extraterrestrial presence on the Moon, but Apollo 19 was lost due to a catastrophic
collision.



Despite running into problems as well, Apollo 20 succeeded in recovering alien technology as well as a
humanoid female in suspended animation. In 2007, several videos were posted on YouTube by William Rutledge,
a man claiming to have been one of the Apollo 20 astronauts. 

Initially, he gave few details regarding the controversial videos showing long-deserted structures on the Moon
and an alien-looking ‘girl’ inside a crashed giant spaceship.

Fortunately, Italian researcher Luca Scantamburlo managed to contact Rutlegde and got more info on the subject.
When asked how he got involved with NASA, Rutledge responded:

"NASA didn’t employ me, USAF did. I had worked on the study of foreign technology, Russian only.
Studied about the N1 project, AJAX plane project, and the MIG Foxbat 25.
I had some skills for using computer navigation and was a volunteer for the MOL-Gemini project. 

"USAF later recalled that I had been chosen for Apollo 20 because I was one of the rare pilots who didn’t
believe in God (and it has changed since 1990), but it was a criterion in 1976.
It was not the status of the NASA astronauts. Not believing in God made the difference. That’s all."

According to Rutlegde, Apollo 20 was launched in 1976, and was the result of a joint American-Soviet venture.

"I don’t know how, but the Soviets were informed of the presence of a ship on the far side.
In July 199, Luna 15 crashed just south of the nose of the [alien] ship. It was a probe similar
to the Ranger or Lunar Orbiter.

"They provided maps, precise charts of this area.
The center of decision was located in the Urals, in the town of Sverdlovsk.
Chief of program was Professor Valentin Alekseyev, who later became president of the
Ural Academy of Science. 

"Leonov [Alexei Leonov, Soviet cosmonaut] was primarily chosen because of his popularity
in the staff of the leading Communist Party, and secondarily because he was on Apollo-Soyuz."

After a successful but not uneventful launch, the Apollo 20 crew headed for their destination on the far side of the
Moon, a small area in the Delporte-Izsak region, close to the Tsiolkovsky crater. 

They wanted to explore a huge object spotted by the Apollo 15 mission. They were amazed to discover it was
a huge and ancient alien spaceship, about 2.5 miles long.



Not far from it was another, smaller ship as well as what appeared to be a very old city.



"The ‘Moon City’ was named on Earth and referred to as Station One, but it appeared to be
really space garbage, full of scrap, gold parts, and only one construction seemed intact.
We named it the Cathedral. 

"We took shots of pieces of metal, of every part bearing calligraphy, exposed to the sun.
The city seemed to be as old as the ship, but it is a very tiny place.
In the rover video, the telephotolens make the artifacts seem larger."

Their next destination was the derelict spaceship:

"We went inside the big spaceship, also into a triangular one.
The major conclusions of the exploration were: it was a mothership, very old, that crossed
the universe at least a billion years ago. 

"There were many signs of biology inside, old remains of vegetation in a motor section,
special triangular rocks that emitted ‘tears’ of a yellow liquid with special properties, and,
of course, signs of extrasolar creatures.

"We found remains of little bodies (4 inches long) that lived and died in a network of glass
tubes all along the ship, but the major discovery was that of two humanoid bodies, one intact."

The intact humanoid body was dubbed Mona Lisa and Rutledge described her as being in a state of suspended
animation, neither dead nor alive. She was brought back to the Lunar Module for preliminary inspection.

"Mona Lisa? I don’t remember who named the girl, Leonov or me — was the intact EBE
[Extraterrestrial Biological Entity]. Humanoid, female, 165 centimeters (5’5″). Genitalized,
haired, six fingers (we guess their mathematics are based on 12). 

"Function: pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes.
We had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostrils.
Leonov removed the eye device (you’ll see that in the video).

"Concretions of blood or biological liquid erupted and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and
some parts of the body. Other parts were in unusually good condition (hair) and the skin was
protected by a thin transparent film. 

"As we told mission control, condition seemed not dead, not alive.
We had no medical background or experience, but Leonov and I devised a test; we fixed our
bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by mission control meds was positive.

"But that’s another story. Some parts could seem unbelievable now, and I prefer to tell the whole
story when other videos will be online."

The body of another EBE was also found on the spaceship and appeared to have died a long time ago.

"We found a second body, destroyed, and we brought the head on board.
Color of the skin was blue-gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some strange details above the
eyes and at the front, a strap went around the head, wearing no inscription."

Rutledge mentioned nothing about their return to Earth or what happened to Mona Lisa. 
"She is on Earth and she is not dead," he told Scantamburlo.

When asked if he feared his statements might have consequences, Rutledge said:
"I’m the whistleblower. What can NASA or the USAF do now? Blocking or suing me would
be an acknowledgement. They can speak of hoax or fiction."

William Rutledge is 78 years old and currently living in Rwanda.
Due to his age, he says he no longer feels threatened by the secrecy he was sworn to at the time of
the mission.

He also stated that it’s not up to NASA or anyone for that matter to keep things of this magnitude hidden
from the rest of the world...'

SOURCE:

[guohua]

I understand that the picture of that city on the moon as been debunked.
I guess it was part of a cover for a book or something.

I find it hard to believe that Mona Lisa could have been revived.

It is an interesting story though.

[BIAD]

I understand that the picture of that city on the moon as been debunked.
I guess it was part of a cover for a book or something.

I find it hard to believe that Mona Lisa could have been revived.

It is an interesting story though.

I -too believe the 'city on the moon' image is fake, but it was part of the article.

I also agree with you that it's doubtful that a many-years-old humanoid discovered on
a oxygen-vacant natural satellite can be resuscitated!

[guohua]

OK,,,,, we have a picture of a supposed cigar shape space craft on the moon,,,,,,
 
Now we have a cigar shaped Asteroid or Space Craft spinning towards Earth!!??
 

Huge object passing Earth 'could be alien spacecraft from another part of galaxy', say scientists

 REALLY!!?? 

The bizarre cigar-shaped entity was previously thought to be an interstellar asteroid which had come from another part of the galaxy.

But evidence has been mounting which has led experts to suggest it could actually be a sign of intelligent life.

The object is hundreds of metres in length but only one tenth as wide which is highly unusual for a typical space rock, scientists have said.

It is also speeding through space at 196,000 mph, suggesting it is not gravitationally bound to the sun. 

The mysterious body, which has been dubbed “Oumuamua”, was spotted by astronomers from the University of Hawaii in October as it passed the Earth at around 85 times further than the moon.


It is the first object discovered in the solar system that appears to have originated from another part of the galaxy.

Researchers involved in Seti - the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence – are preparing to turn a powerful dish telescope towards the object.

AND,,,,,

"While a natural origin is more likely, there is currently no consensus on what that origin might have been, and Breakthrough Listen is well positioned to explore the possibility that Oumuamua could be an artifact."
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[Mystic Wanderer]

I was just about to point out the similarities in  

and this...  

Although, the latter looks more like a chunk of rock, it COULD just be hundreds of thousands years old, showing wear and tear of an old craft.

[guohua]

I still think this object needs to be investigated.
Send a Probe,,,,,,,,

[OmegaLogos]

Explanation: NASA is not being straight with us as all they have provided is an artist redition of what they want us to think the asteroid looks like!

Personal Disclosure: Where are the highly detailed radar return pictures eh?

[guohua]

Explanation: NASA is not being straight with us as all they have provided is an artist redition of what they want us to think the asteroid looks like!

Personal Disclosure: Where are the highly detailed radar return pictures eh?

You're Right Belushi Elf,,,,,, Santa's Little Blues Helper,,,,,,, 

They are NOT showing those,,,,,,,
This is all we have,,,,,

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Scientists were surprised and delighted to detect --for the first time--  an interstellar asteroid passing through our solar system. Additional observations brought more surprises: the object is cigar-shaped with a somewhat reddish hue. The asteroid, named ‘Oumuamua by its discoverers, is up to one-quarter mile (400 meters) long and highly-elongated—perhaps 10 times as long as it is wide. That is unlike any asteroid or comet observed in our solar system to date, and may provide new clues into how other solar systems formed. For more info about this discovery, visit https://go.nasa.gov/2zSJVWV .



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