SPECIAL REPORT: UNEARTHING NAZCA

[Mystic Wanderer]

@"guohua" said,

I don't believe to the Real DNA and or other Evidence will be allowed to come out.

I'm surprised they (the government) haven't shut them up already.  If tests do prove it to be real, I'm sure they will find a way to 'silence' the scientists and steal the evidence, just like they did when giants were unearthed and taken to the Smithsonian to be locked from our view forever.

This discovery could, and would, rewrite the current religious texts, and they can't have that!

[guohua]

@"guohua" said,

I don't believe to the Real DNA and or other Evidence will be allowed to come out.

I'm surprised they (the government) haven't shut them up already.  If tests do prove it to be real, I'm sure they will find a way to 'silence' the scientists and steal the evidence, just like they did when giants were unearthed and taken to the Smithsonian to be locked from our view forever.

This discovery could, and would, rewrite the current religious texts, and they can't have that!

That is True.
I think not only the Religious Establishments, But the Satanist can't have this out there either.
I have to think they are more influential than the religious parties right now in most Governments or at-least in the M S M and Hollywood and Big Business.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Update: 
I watched part 5 of this on GAIA TV last night.  They did some studies on the white powder that covered the body and found it to be something organic that they said wasn't a hoax because they put a date on it for long, long ago (I forget the actual years they said).

They also found more smaller bodies that they are testing, and the scientists say these can't be hoaxed because of the complex structure of the bodies. They also had the elongated skull with big eye sockets.

They said the smaller bodies looked more "reptilian" than the larger ones discovered, due to the makeup of the spine. 
Maybe it was an early specimen of when the ETs were doing hybrid experiments on us?

They are still studying the DNA from the bigger skeletons, and hope to have more information soon.

All the scientists are saying they don't think this is a hoax. 

Things are getting really interesting!

[guohua]

I found these pictures in an article.
 The entrance to the alleged tomb as seen in the video and (inset) some of the alleged aliens.

These images were taken of the aliens as they were found in the tomb,the video claims.

The disclosure came after scientists and the Peruvian World Congress on Mummy Studies released statements saying they believed the creatures were hoaxes that had been made using real human remains, and demanded an official inquiry into whether any archaeological crimes had been committed.

As a result, Express.co.uk asked Gaia.com and Mexican investigative journalist and ufologist Jamie Maussan, who is at the forefront of the claims, for details about where the so-called alien mummies were discovered.

We asked for the location, who found them, whether it was part on an official dig, and if there were nay pictures of the discovery.

Both Gaia.com and Mr Maussan failed to answer.

However, the new video claims Mario, who was shown on camera but not given a surname, was the man behind the "world-changing find".
The video narrater said: "Mario helped with the discovery of many well known sites in Peru since the 1990s.

"He knows very well what he does, and he knows what he has found, and what he has found does not belong to any known culture in South America."


Mr Maussan said in the film: "Inside this tomb, in a secret place, he found two sarcophaguses.

"In one of them was just pure objects. In the second one he found two medium-sized bodies, and many little bodies.

"The big body was outside the sarcophagus."
Mr Maussan said Mario would not agree to be interviewed on camera, or take the team to the site.

He added: "He is afraid that somebody is going to find this and he his going to lose what is inside."

The narrater said Mario believes he has touched just 10 per cent of the site, possibly less, and has no idea yet how far branches of underground tunnels go.

The above article and pictures and video is here: Source

[Mystic Wanderer]

Yes, I'm still not saying they are real, but they had a skeptical scientist on the show last night. He said he started the study with the intention of finding a hoax right off, but after looking and studying the creature, he can't see how anyone could hoax it; it was too well detailed in the bone structure and other parts of the body.

They also had the man who found the bodies. Yes, he did say he didn't want to tell where the location was because he knew others would go in and take the remaining bodies away. Although that looks bad on his part, I can't say I blame him.

[Spirit Scribe]

Regarding the possibility of a hoax, I'm assuming you're talking about the x-rays of the body. Do we know for a fact that these are actual x-rays, or have they been created on a computer by someone with an extensive knowledge of anatomy, like a doctor or a well-trained CGI artist? If another group was permitted to do their own x-rays using a portable machine, like vets sometimes do for large animals (taking the x-ray machine to wherever the animal is), the results could be the clue to proving whether or not this is a hoax.

Then again, if a skilled artist crafted the insides of this body with metal alloys that could mimic the look of bones when x-rayed, we have another set of questions entirely.

[Mystic Wanderer]

Regarding the possibility of a hoax, I'm assuming you're talking about the x-rays of the body. Do we know for a fact that these are actual x-rays, or have they been created on a computer by someone with an extensive knowledge of anatomy, like a doctor or a well-trained CGI artist? If another group was permitted to do their own x-rays using a portable machine, like vets sometimes do for large animals (taking the x-ray machine to wherever the animal is), the results could be the clue to proving whether or not this is a hoax.

Then again, if a skilled artist crafted the insides of this body with metal alloys that could mimic the look of bones when x-rayed, we have another set of questions entirely.

They have sent parts of the body off to several different scientists, and they have all dated it to approximately the same number of years old... very ancient.

The jury is still out on the DNA, so I'll hold off on believing anything just yet, but it looks real, so far.

[BIAD]

EXCLUSIVE: 'Dead alien baby and pregnant mother found inside tomb in Peru'
[26th July 2017]

An alleged mummified alien corpse supposedly found inside an ancient tomb in Peru had eggs inside it,
it has astonishingly been claimed.

'Researchers investigating the alleged discovery of several alleged mummified aliens also claim to have
now found a corpse that appears to be a baby.
Yesterday, Express.co.uk revealed the first pictures of what is alleged to be a secret tomb where several
mummified aliens were found in Peru.



Gaia.com, the paranormal website behind the outlandish claims that at least five mummified aliens have
been found buried in Nazca, Peru, has released a video revealing claims CT scans on one of the "mummified
creatures" have shown it has three eggs inside it.

Gaia.com continues to release videos and insist a genuine investigation is underway, despite scientists rounding 
on the online paranormal website amid claims it is pushing a massive elaborate hoax.

The latest disclosure came after scientists and the Peruvian World Congress on Mummy Studies released
statements saying they believed the creatures were hoaxes that had been made using real human remains,
and demanded an official inquiry into whether any archaeological crimes had been committed.

Mexican journalist Jamie Maussan, who is leading the probe in the Gaia.com videos, has previously investigated
a series of alleged alien body discoveries which turned out to be hoaxes.
However, the outlandish claims continue to be made by the Gaia.com team.

In the latest video Dr Edson Salazar Vivanco, who has been involved in previous examinations of body parts that
have been suggested could be alien in origin, said of one of the creatures: "The physical examination revealed
that in the pelvic cavity there was a bump.
This may have been its last meal, it may be something else, or it maybe gestation."

The team said a frontal and lateral X-ray has been carried out on it.

Mr Maussan said in the video: "We we looked at the X-rays, we found that this creature had eggs inside."
José de la Cruz Rios, is described as a biologist in the film.

He previously worked with Mr Maussan on claims that an old slide found near Roswell, New Mexico, USA,
showed the body of an alien recovered from the infamous alleged flying saucer crash of 1947.
This was later found to be the remains of a mummified human child.

Mr de la Cruz Rios says in the video: "In the pelvic cavity we see the presence of eggs.
"They are translucent meaning they consist of an organic substance."
The team concluded the "creatures" reproduced by laying eggs in a similar manner to reptiles on Earth,
but were humanoid in appearance.

The film also claimed the team had found a mummified alien baby that would be the subject of the next documentary.
In the footage, a video narrator said: "Coming up. The team examines a new body recovered from the tomb.
"It appears to be a baby, and they have named this one Wawita, which means baby in the Cashua language."

Many ufologists believe the Gaia.com films are promoting a massive hoax...'
SOURCE:

Well, they'll get one swing at this and if it turns out to be a bluff, I'm sure those involved with just ramp-up
the stakes and go for something more exciting.
If it's a mistake and the material belongs to a mummified human being, then any meagre credibility in this field
is lost anyway.

But as many have said before, a discovery of this magnitude would be hidden until all the facts were in and then,
only released if it served a need.
(Fingers crossed, though!)

[guohua]

@"BIAD"  Great Update.
I have to agree with you, if it's proven to be a Black Market Mummies, then who's going to believe when bodies are actually found.

[BIAD]

@"BIAD"  Great Update.
I have to agree with you, if it's proven to be a Black Market Mummies, then who's going to believe when bodies are actually found.

Whether one believes in 'alien mummies' 'ancient astronauts' or even the Roswell event, if this even turns
out to be a genuine misidentifying of something fairly normal instead of what these 'scientists' are suggesting,
it puts the whole subject of visiting races from other planets back to the giggly silly-season position.

And remember, it's currently the silly season in the media world.

[Mystic Wanderer]

EXCLUSIVE: 'Dead alien baby and pregnant mother found inside tomb in Peru'
[26th July 2017]





Well, they'll get one swing at this and if it turns out to be a bluff, I'm sure those involved with just ramp-up
the stakes and go for something more exciting.
If it's a mistake and the material belongs to a mummified human being, then any meagre credibility in this field
is lost anyway.

But as many have said before, a discovery of this magnitude would be hidden until all the facts were in and then,
only released if it served a need.
(Fingers crossed, though!)

Yes, that was from the 5th episode.  The scientists on the show were having a really hard time calling it a hoax after examining it. I can see how any scientist that hadn't had a hands on look would think it was a hoax right off the bat.  It is unbelievable for most people, and it would turn some of humanity's views upside down, for sure.

They said the eggs being inside the mummy was another thing that led them to believe this creature was more like a reptile than a human, along with how the spine was different,  but it walked on two legs. 

If it's real, I say it was from back when the ETs were still working on the hybrid program between themselves and humans.

The fact that the government hasn't already swooped in and stolen this 'evidence' leads me to believe this could be some kind of PsyOp plan. Or..., could it be they are allowing this as part of the disclosure program?

I'm confused at this point.

Episode 6 was the Mexican guy/reporter giving a speech, but it was in Spanish, so I don't have a clue what he said.

[guohua]

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[Mystic Wanderer]

Here is another video from someone else who followed the Peruvian Mummies. The results are told at the end.

Jay Weidner was asked in a different video (I posted about alchemy) about the conclusion, and he said the tests showed they were mostly human, but not entirely. 
Okay... whatever that means. What was the other part?  

[guohua]

No DNA results,,, they should never have had an International Press Conference.
Everything that was already reported on was all that was heard.

Bad, Move.

[BIAD]

This is a translated page, so please excuse any errors in grammar.

THIS IS THE FAKE "ALIEN" HAND THAT THE MAUSSAN SCIENTISTS DETERMINED
ANATOMICALLY CORRECT AND FUNCTIONAL.

Rodolfo Salas-Gismondi, Ph.D.
Department of Vertebrate Paleontology, Natural History Museum, UNMSM, Lima - Peru
Research Associate, Division of Paleontology, American Museum of Natural History, NY - USA
Member of SSH.

'Abstract . Journalist Jaime Maussan has defended the "non-human" authenticity of various remains 
of mummies from Nasca based on his team of international scientists, after direct inspection of
specimens and X-ray analysis.

Regarding the hand that I analyze in this article, Mr. Maussan referred ("Contact" program, July 2)
that his scientists have agreed that each finger has six phalanges and that the hands are anatomically
correct and functional.


FIGURE 1.

Based on the X-ray of this hand and using basic comparative anatomy, I identify the bones that make
it up and show that
(1) the hand is formed by at least two human individuals and
(2) that each finger has two (human) An absolute anatomical and evolutionary aberration.

This is not an opinion, it is the result of anatomical-comparative analysis.
This cheeky assembly is the scientific evidence that Maussan's team defends as authentic.
Anatomical analysis shows that Dr. Maussan's scientists, including Mexican forensic scientist Jose de
Jesus Salce and Peruvian surgeon Edson Salazar, are unable to distinguish between a metacarpal
and a phalanx, or do not want to

When one hears the comments of Mr. Maussan, the outstanding Mexican forensic Jose de Jesus Salce
and the Peruvian surgeon Edson Salazar, about the authenticity of Nasca's remains, these are quite
convincing.

This capacity for persuasion lies not only in the passion they transmit, but also in the fact that each and
every one of their arguments is supposedly backed up by the knowledge and skill that their professions
confer on them and, in the words of Mr. Maussan, all A team of reputed international scientists.

In this article I analyze the hand that the team of eminent scientists gathered by Maussan determined as
authentic and anatomically functional. The result does not speak well of the anatomical knowledge of this
equipment.

Identification of the bones that make up the hand provided by the French Thiery Jamin.
As a reference, Figure 1 shows a radiographic image of a human arm with the nominated bones.


FIGURE 2.

According to Mr. Maussan, the "alien" hand was provided by the French Thierry Jamin (Figure 2).
For the identification and analysis of the hand I used the radiographic image shown by Mr. Maussan in
the program "Contact" of July 2 of the present ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzpZYcVI6Rk ).

The image shows a hand with three fingers. According to Mr. Maussan's scholars, each finger consists
of six phalanges and the metacarpals (which would conform the palm of the hand) are long, thin and form
a rectangular palm.
This analysis is absolutely superficial, incorrect, and is based on the relative position of the bones and
not on the morphology of each bone.

In a human hand, as in other vertebrates (eg, mammals, reptiles and birds), each finger has only one
metacarpus and usually several phalanges (Figure 1).

The number of phalanges is variable between species, but there is never more than one metacarpal per
finger.

The metacarpals are bones with complex joint facets and very different from the simple morphology of the
phalanges, that is, it is not possible to confuse metacarpals with phalanges when they have relatively clear
images.

On the x-ray of Jamin's "alien" hand, the morphological analysis of the bones indicates that each finger is
made up of two metacarpals and four phalanges, not six phalanges, as indicated by the Mexican forensic
scientist and the other Maussan scientists .

All these bones are of human adults. In the figures, the true metacarpals are indicated with "MC" and
phalanges with "F".
On the other hand, the "long, thin metacarps forming a rectangular palm" (as identified by Maussan's
scientists) are actually different bones: two human metacarpals arranged symmetrically (but in reverse),
two possible phalanges and several Long bones.

The curious thing is that these long bones do not have definite articular facets and they have the desolate
epiphysis (for example, tibia of Figure 2), so they probably are bones of immature individuals, for example,
very young children (neonate).

The small size of these bones and their morphology would also indicate that they are the bones of the arm
and / or the leg of neonates.


FIGURE 3.

When comparing the hand of Thierry Jamin with that of Paul Ronceros (Figure 3) a similar pattern is observed.
That is, each finger is formed by at least two human metacarpals.
The "palm" of the hand includes several long bones. In this case it is more evident that one of the bones of the
palm is a radius or a child's ulna.

Moreover, in this hand some metacarpals are mixed between the phalanges, without any anatomical sense.
Even one of the fingers has an upside down phalanx, that is to say oriented in the anatomically incorrect sense.

In summary, the hand considered authentic by the Maussan team of scientists has two rows of human metacarpals.
The bones of the so-called rectangular "palm" are probably the bones of arms and legs of newborn human individuals.

The hand presented by Paul Ronceros also has more than one row of human metacarpals and also metacarpals
mixed between the phalanges and even a phalange inside out. None of the hands has anatomical, functional or
evolutionary sense and have clearly been armed from more than one human individual.

It appears that both hands include bones of the arm and leg of newborn individuals in the area of the "palm" of the
hand, so I assume that the same author constructed both hands by mixing long bones (ulna, radius, tibia)

According to Jaime Maussan the hand presented by Thierry Jamin has been dated (with Carbon 14) in 1200
years of antiquity in the Autonomous University of Mexico. These results are indicative of the archaeological
character of the remains used for the construction of this hand.

The modifications of the "María" mummy hands described in the previous post  were also made on archaeological
material, which demonstrates a systematic destruction of heritage remains in the area of Nasca.
This noxious activity can be increased if irresponsible false evidence is still presented as analyzed in this article.
This subject can become even more delicate if some of the human bones belong to non-archaeological skeletons.

The outstanding scientists of Mr. Maussan, among them the Peruvian surgeon Edson Salazar and the Mexican
forensic Jose de Jesus Salce, have not been able to distinguish phalanges from metacarpals.
His compelling statements about the authenticity of these remains are not based on scientific knowledge and
leave a bitter taste about the true reasons behind this shameless farce.

In relation to the mummy of Maussan, denominated "Maria" ( see previous post), I would like to add that the
"non-human" evidence is so poor that no computerized axial tomographies or DNA tests are needed to determine
that it is a human archaeological mummy.

Comparative anatomy (not Photoshop) shows that hands have the shape and proportions of human hands after
the described alterations. The bones of the foot correspond to human bones. The deformed, elongated skull has
been documented in human mummies of prehispanic cultures of the area.

The rest of the skeleton corresponds to that of a human. What would be the result of a DNA analysis if the anatomy
corresponds to that of a human? If the phenotype (the anatomy) is the result of the genotype (the genetic information),
the DNA would be closer to that of a human than to that of a chimpanzee.
What extraterrestrial evidence are we talking about?

To this anatomical evidence of fraud, we must add that no one knows the exact origin of all these remains,
nor is it known to the discoverer, that all remains remain hidden, and that alterations on archaeological remains
have occurred previously in the area of Ica and Nasca.

In addition, Mr. Maussan has previously defended "alien" evidence that has been proven false and lives on this activity...'

SOURCE:

[Mystic Wanderer]

So, I am left wondering which report has been falsified? 

Lord knows if this turned out to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be "alien" there is no way the Powers That Be would allow it to become public. They would make false reports, just like they do with vaccines, etc. 

If the mummy is indeed a fake, then shame on these people for trying to 'get one over' on us.  

[guohua]

@"BIAD" 
That is a Great Find you brought to us.
Thank You.

So now I understand way, when they show the x-rays of the hands in the videos and there is always in most of the hands a solid round object blocking out the portion of the hands.
Some of the hands after being x-rays would be easy to see they have been altered..

Also it needs to be brought up that with the advance's in DNA testing today, it doesn't take months for the results.
@"Mystic Wanderer" I think maybe GAIA TV is doing something here for viewer ship and ratings like the Animal Planet did with the Mermaid Story.
GAIA may not have been the Originators of this story but they fell for it and need to distance themselves from this as soon as possible. 
But that is JHUO.

You'll see what I'm talking about starting at the 2:05 mark in the video.

[Mystic Wanderer]

GAIA may not have been the Originators of this story but they fell for it and need to distance themselves from this as soon as possible.

I agree, this isn't a good thing for them to be associated with.  But, what if it had turned out to be true?  Jay Weidner couldn't let a chance like that pass him by.  He seemed rather upset when the question was asked of him in that other video. He answered quickly and moved on to the next question.

Someone in the new video I posted here said there was an implant in the hand.  Dang... if that's an implant, it's huge!

[Mystic Wanderer]

Update:
Apparently they are still doing more tests.  

(Click on the picture to see short video)

[guohua]

Interesting, so, the hands and feet may have been altered.