I think there may be hope yet

[Ninurta]

Nothing drives climate more than the sun.  The sun is about 98% responsible for every temperature change here on Earth.  The other 2% is what kind of cloud cover there is on any given day ( and that's only a day-to-day thing at best ).

We don't need immigrants.  If you're talking about dirty jobs ... there needs to be a better financial interest developed to draw in people who will do the job.  If that raises costs to the consumer ... tough shit.

Illegals have no respect for law and order.  Ever see one pay taxes?

First of all, it's not "illegal", it's "undocumented ". My wife committed a misdemeanor by coming here in 2005, so do t wave your dog whistle bullshit by making it seem like you haven't traveled 5 MPH over going down the road. 

Second, yes, we bring immigrants in to do work that I may not classify as "beneath", but certainly low margin and necessary to keep people happy. Your financial interests comment is fine If most are happy paying 3X for produce, if you are in that camp then so be it. 

But stop with this "illegal" bullshit. Willing and able for the last 16 years to argue any point you think is intellectual regarding folks in America that were here centuries before most of you and any of your kind.

I take issue with that statement. It's a false redefinition of the English language. I lived here "undocumented" for about 10 years or so, but I've never been here "illegally" There is a vast difference. Words have meanings. they are not interchangeable.

There is no one alive in America that was here "centuries" before me or "my kind". People, as a rule, just don't live for centuries. Some of my ancestors have been here for over 20,000 years, but none of them are still alive, either. I do not rely on then to "prove" my citizenship or right to be here legally. I rely on me, myself alone. I cannot rest on someone else's laurels.

Last time I checked, even a misdemeanor meant a broken law. No misdemeanors are possible if no laws are broken. So, yes, "illegal" applies. We are, all of us, or have been at one time or another "illegal", but we are not, most of us, "illegal aliens". We pay for our crimes as committed, generally, so when will the illegal aliens pay for theirs? When is fair no longer fair?

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