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An interesting book by Alan Godfrey
I better state straight away that I am not involved with Mr Godfrey in any way and I am not getting a commission.

What I will admit to though is that I have a copy of his book and I found it extremely interesting. 

Who Or What Were They?  By Alan Godfrey

Published October 2017
320 pp   illustrated  
ISBN 978-1-78808-159-7
Available from Alan Godfrey at:-    ebaybooks from 16 October 2017

Forces claiming to be from the Ministry of Defence used the official secrets act to try
to keep the author from talking

How their concern was not just his close encounter with a UFO but over his
involvement as first officer on scene in one of the most baffling unexplained deaths
in West Yorkshire history

The unexpected links between Alan's close encounter and the world famous
Rendlesham Forest incident just 4 weeks later

And the extraordinary lengths that the police went to in attempting to destroy a
commended officer's credibility - with intimidation, attempts to disprove his sanity

and even threats to his liberty.
Found this on youtube, hope it helps understand who he is

The Alan Godfrey Problem.

First off, I believe Alan Godfrey was involved in a set of circumstances that -to a standard fellow, doesn't make
any sense when seen as a whole. But if separated, a conclusion drawn from an overview can alter, the facets
of the individual incidents can cause a neutral viewer/reader to see that any connection could be created by
biased inference.

In the case of Mr. Godfrey's 1980 situation, this sectarian interpretation seems to have originated from the media's
delusive reading of what the Coroner -James Turnbull, flippantly said after the inquest into the death of Zigmund Adamski.

“The question of where he was before he died and what led to his death could not be answered.”
“In my 12,000 cases, this is the most baffling I’ve ever had. If I was told a UFO took this man up and
dropped him on the coal pile, I would only raise one eyebrow.”

Right there is a perfect reason to manufacture a 'silly-season' article to lighten the mood for a British summer of news that
would struggle to make an audience smile.

You have a dead guy in 1980 who had the same surname as George Adamski -an alleged friend of 'Space Brothers'
and claimed to have travelled in their vehicles. George Adamski died in 1965... so it's just the surname that connects
them, but on a slow-news day and in bleak economic times, that's enough to jump-start the silly season and fill a column
or two.
Plus... Zigmund Adamski -the dead person P.C Godfrey found on that rainy day in Tordmorden had another connection
with the American name-sake. They were both Polish. (Cue mysterious music here!)

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Then there's what happened to Alan Godfrey when he allegedly observed a strange craft on a lonely road in November
of the same year... the connections to the Coroner's remark is inescapable for lazy Reporters!

Unemployment in the UK was at a two-year high at 1.5 million, Inflation has risen to 21.8% and Prime Minister Margaret
Thatcher was kicking the sh*t out of the Trade Unions and their stranglehold over companies llike the failing British Steel.

Punk Rock was still showing the angst of the forgotten youth and with jobs being scarce, the seemingly endless rounds of
strikes and the stagnation of ecomonic and spiritual growth of the country from the former political leadership, one could
reasonably appreciate why such times as silly-season in Journalistic circles are utilised to attempt to raise the spirits in a
disgruntled nation.

Such an apparatus is still in play today!
The media enjoy their word-play, just as authors and book reviewers do to enhance the importance of a product to their
prospective customers. Phrases like 'mysterious Governmental forces' and 'unusual interest by authorities' are applied to
urge an audience into being suspicious of 'the other' narrative which can deflate the intrigue via rational and well-researched

Let's take a look.

Zigmund Adamski.
Mr. Adamaski was the fifty-six year-old deceased Polish-immigrant coal miner who was found by Trevor Parker -the son
of the owner of the coal yard in Todmorden West Yorkshire, where the incident occurred.
The body was discovered on top of a ten or twelve foot-high coal heap. This discovery is said to have transpired on the
afternoon on Wednesday, 11th June 1980.

Adamski had gone missing from his home in Tingley, West Yorkshire after reportedly visiting some local shops in the late
afternoon of Friday, 6th June 1980 and purchased groceries for the next day.

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Zigmund Adamski.

He was married and his wife -Leokadia (Hetty), was wheelchair-bound due to Multiple Sclerosis. Emphasis from the media
and later researchers was put on the fact that Adamski's God-daughter was to be married the day after his disappearance
and Zigmund had been hosting two family members from Poland, Zigmund's cousin and her son.

Presumably, this remark of the approaching marriage is to imply a positive vibe, a 'buoyant' reason to challenge the adverse
situation that Mr. Adamski later found himself. The five days that Zigmund Adamski was missing for have never been explained
and nobody has ever come forward with information of his whereabouts during that time.
Tingley is around twenty miles away from Tordmorden. How Mr. Adamski travelled there is unknown.

Police Officer Alan Godfrey's part in the Adamski incident.
At 3:45 PM on the afternoon of the 11th June, P.C Godfrey received a call on his portable police radio for assistance from
a fellow-Officer and friend, P.C Malcom Hagley. Godfrey had been walking his regular route in a nearby area of Tordmorden
and Hagley was in a patrol car named 'Alpha-Bravo-Three'.

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Arriving as a pair, the two Policemen were confronted by Trevor Parker, the son of the owner of a Coal-yard adjoined to the
Todmorden railway station, The yard was known as 'Tomlins'. The isolated property is a horseshoe-shaped industrial unit that
is located at the end of a seldom-used track.
Godfrey later stated that an ambulance was already in attendance, although this is left out of most articles.

Parker had been preparing to load his truck with coal for afternoon deliveries when he observed the un-moving body atop
the pile of coal confined by large wooden sleepers. It was raining at the time as P.C. Hagley clambered up to see the body
and suggested his colleague should also evaluate the scene. P.C Godfrey joined Hagley and later explained what he saw:

"The body was lying face up and there were no signs of coal dust or dirt on his face or clothing.
He was wearing a suit, but underneath his suit jacket, which was buttoned incorrectly, he lacked a
shirt and was wearing only a string vest.
His trousers were unzipped and shoes were tied crudely.
There was no sign of a struggle, on both the body, nor the stacked coal pile."

However, P.C Godfrey stated he saw a series of burn-like marks around Adamski’s crown, nape and shoulders that appeared
like a chemical burn in several patches which had been treated by a “green yellowy substance”.

Quote from Alan Godfrey:
“It was quite obvious to me and to Malcolm, that this guy didn’t die where he was found...
it seemed he'd been dumped. He appeared to have been dressed after death."

It was also discovered later that the victim's watch, wallet and groceries were missing. Agreeing that the scene looked suspicious
and not hinting of a natural death, the two Officers contacted their superiors and the Criminal Investigations Department (CID)
were requested to take over the situation.

The immediate area was photographed by the 'Scenes-Of-Crime' section of the CID and the coroner announced life extinct.
The body was removed from the yard and taken to Hebden Bridge Mortuary for an autopsy.
During the logistics of preparing for the examination of the body, P.C Godfrey, P.C Hagley and a junior Officer set about
establishing the identity of the deceased male.

Alan Edwards was the consulting pathologist at Royal Halifax Infirmary who performed the autopsy and found that the body
had only a single days beard growth, had eaten well during the days he had been missing, although he had not eaten on the
day of his death.

The time of death was estimated to have been between and on the 11th June, the same day he was found.
The burns appeared to be precise and occurred around two days prior to death.
Samples of the gel-like substance that covered the burn marks were sent to the Home Office laboratory in Wetherby for
chemical analysis.
(Closed in 2012.)

Cause of death was stated as heart failure and unknown at that time, Zigmund Adamski was heavy smoker and with working
at the coal mine, this left him troubled with bronchitis. The only discernible marks on the body at all were a small series of
superficial cuts on the palms of both hands, both knees and a small cut on the right thigh.

Meanwhile, P.C Godfrey and associates checked as far as Wakefield for known missing persons and eventually arrived at the
name of the fifty-six year-old man of Tingley, West Yorkshire. Zigmund Adamski, he'd been missing five days.

No implications of debt, alcohol or gambling problems were unearthed, Adamski was well liked in his community and he seemed
to have no enemies. Christopher Zielinski, a close friend of Zigmund, commented that the close-to-retiring miner seemed "happy,
friendly and in high spirits" the last time he'd spoken to him.
However, there were rumours of a family feud which involved the issuing of a restraining order taken out on the husband of
Zigmund's cousin who was currently staying with him.

The unknown substance that had been found on Adamski's burn-marks could not be identified and at the inquest, Coroner
James Turnbull concluded an open verdict for Mr. Zigmund Adamaski and that the probable cause was heart failure due his poor
Neither Godfrey, Hagley or any other witnesses were requested to attend.

Life moves on.

Next, Policeman Alan Godfrey encounters something strange.

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When Alan Godfrey pulled on his Police-issued Doctor Martin boots for his night-shift of 27th November of 1980,
one may presume that his musings would not be on an elusive herd of cows or a strange craft rotating in front of
his police car.

The many telephone calls received regarding the escaped cows had kept coming in as P.C Godfrey set out to
check the latest sighting of the runaway beasts. As the night wore on, Alan Godfrey felt he was on a wild goose
chase, as every time a report came in, he arrived at the location only to find nothing.

By of the 28th -and with his shift nearing its end, the tired Police Officer turned his vehicle onto Burnley Road
a country road that cuts through the valley from Todmorden to central Burnley. One would assume that if the cows
were not where a caller to the station had reported, then Alan would've called it day and went home.

Except, the large rotating object that hovered in the middle of Burnley Road seemed to have changed that assumption.
At first he thought it may have been a bus, but as he crept his car nearer, he discovered it was something altogether
more strange.

In the early-morning November gloom, P.C Godfrey observed a diamond-shaped craft hovering in silence about 5 feet
from the ground. The bottom part of the craft rotated anticlockwise while the top part that looked liked a row of windows
was stationary. The object had a height of over 14 feet and a width of 20 feet.

The strange machine appeared to create some kind of wind or force field as the nearby trees shook but did not generate
any noise nor heat. Grabbing his car-radio handset, Godfrey found the equipment dead, although he knew that the hilly
terrain did hold black-spots where radio communication was useless.

And so he did what any pragmatic law enforcement Officer did, he drew on his training and made a sketch of the craft in
his notebook. Then suddenly there was a bright flash of light and the hovering object had disappeared.

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The sketch.

P.C Godfrey's senses quickly returned and seeing that his hands were on the steering wheel and not with pencil and paper,
he checked his surroundings and found that somehow, he had moved the police car approximately 50 feet further down the
road from his original position. His watch also told him 20 to 30 minutes were missing from his immediate recollection.

Feeling an irritating itch on his left foot and looking down, he saw that the boot of that foot had split. Confused with what
had just occurred, P.C Godfrey aimed the car for the Police station to consider this unusual incident. Clocking out and writing
up his report at, he contacted the farmer who'd lost the cows to inform him that they were still missing.

In the evening of 28th and with three colleagues, Alan Godfrey went back to the spot on Burnley Road to survey the area for
any evidence of the strange encounter. Ironically, by checking a nearby fenced park, the three policemen discovered the herd
of cows that had evaded them the previous night.
The only way into the park was from a latched gate and another one that was locked. The fence surrounded the park was intact
and the Officers found no trails to indicate where or how the cows entered the area.

So it was over and apart from the good-humoured ribbing he took from his fellow Officers during the next couple of weeks,
P.C Alan Godfrey's life returned to normal. Sort of.

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Back then in 1980 and today.

A week later, an article in the local newspaper appeared regarding Godfrey's encounter and asking around, he discovered
that a colleague had mentioned it to a Reporter who rang daily for any interesting events. Eventually, the story became more
and more noticed in the public domain, other incidents involving the West Yorkshire Police added to the pile of UFO accounts
and Alan Godfrey believed it would be only a matter of time before a UFO group would contact him, avid for information.

However, a year passed without such pestering until Norman Collinson, the Chief Inspector of the Fraud Squad for the Greater
Manchester police, contacted Mr. Godfrey and confessed a personal interest in UFO sightings. Seeking a meeting with him,
Collinson wish to question the Officer on the details of what he had seen on that night in November of 1980.

And so Chief Inspector Collinson arrived at Alan Godfrey's home with two other men in order to hear the account of the
rotating 'diamond'. Collinson's companions were a Solicitor -Harry Harris and a witness, Mike Sacks who had also seen
strange lights over Todmorden around the same time as P.C Godfrey.

The entire affair was videotaped and Alan explained his story to the trio. After listening to the account and seemingly curious
about the 20-30 minutes of missing time, the Inspector then suggested to Alan he should undergo a series of regressive
hypnosis sessions to see what more he could recall that they suspected could have been lost to his conscious memory.
Initially, Alan was hesitant, but after much reassurance from Collinson, he agreed to participate.

With two psychiatrists monitoring the hypnotic session, a Professor Blair, professor of psychiatry at Manchester University
and Doctor Joseph Jaffe a Manchester based psychiatrist, Alan Godfrey allowed himself to be hypnotically regressed.
The Doctors had no specific knowledge of the Police Officer's encounter and only a simple brief that he may have some
blocked memories. Those memories would be quite alarming.

With a video camera recording, the reclined Policeman recounted the story upon his approach to the object in the road.
“It’s a bus” he murmured, before correcting himself “It’s not a bus” and then continuing to describe the period of time
between the flash of light and finding himself further down Burnley Road.

Alan Godfrey was floating in a room alongside a “tall guy” in a long white robe and skullcap, a figure that Alan would
name 'Joseph'.

With total astonishment, Alan observed beings he described as 'robots', eight of them standing 3 foot high.
"I don’t like them, for some reason they frighten me" he added with a nervous tone." Apparently they were doing
some kind of examination on me, they attached something to my left leg and my right wrist. There was a dog there too.”
What Alan first recalled as little robots, he later detailed as "Small creatures, about the size of five year olds with heads
shaped like a lamp”!

The two psychiatrists strongly advised interrupting the hypnotic session as Godfrey's heart rate was speeding up alarmingly
and so, what fully happened will never be known. When Alan later watched the videotape of his account, he was shocked to
see and hear himself recall something that he had no conscious memory of.

Even today, the retired Officer suggests that what he said may have been formed from his imagination, although he stands
by the part of the craft sighting.

So what would a neutral person think of Officer Godfrey's account and is there evidence of a more rational explanation of
what the Yorkshire Policeman saw?

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It may seem obvious to most, but when discussing extraordinary claims, one would be prudent to initially seek out more
conventional explanations of an event instead of just allowing a witness' natural assumption based on their reading of the

A person witnessing a strange shape in the night sky may not be aware of a nearby Balloon Festival or that the weird small
beings roaming the darkness outside a window are merely there to promote a selfish scheme to benefit an individual or a

Mr. Godfrey mentioned in his hypnotic state that at first, he believed he was observing a bus in the restricted light of that
November morning. Considering public transport in these agrarian regions were more vital in 1981 than they are today
with current economic advantages, people needing to get to their employment relied heavily on bus services and especially
early in the morning.

More acceptable propositions can be offered when one looks at the amount of UFO sightings that involve military bases in
the vicinity of the incidents. Who knows what public-funded projects are tested in the air-space over these sites in the name
of defence and sucking more money from Government contracts?!

The year before Mr. Godfrey's occurrence, the well-known Rendlesham Forest incident happened just outside of RAF
Woodbridge in Suffolk -an English county on the East coast and a facility used at the time by the United States Air Force.
A strange engagement was reported amongst the surrounding trees to the base that to this day, has never been fully

A craft was alleged to have been witnessed and in the unscrupulous media, the incident became known as UK's 'Roswell'.
The UK Ministry of Defence stated the event posed no threat to national security, and it therefore never was investigated
as a security matter.

Across the North Sea in south-eastern France, the small town of Trans-en-Provence became famous in January 1981 for
a reported UFO landing that left defined traces. Again, Canjuers Military Base is nearby.

I believe Alan Godfrey saw a large object in the early hours of November 1981, just as I also agree with his down-to-earth
suggestion that what he experienced under hypnosis is suspect. In the universe of the subconscious, there are trails that
lead to places that we fully don't understand yet. Self-hope and cruel misery await there, along with monsters that are sadly,
the real people we don't wish to be.

So what could be offered as rational candidates for the Police Officer's bizarre experience?

Todmorden is a small town that grew from a traditional Yorkshire village, like most modest-sized rural communities around
the world, information around the area is usually unpretentious and fairly mundane. Also like many small towns around the
world, Tordmorden existed due to an industry that could utilise the locale -such as rivers and access to other areas of the
country, especially with the advent of steam railways.

Textile mills had generated most of Todmorden's income and sadly as cheaper goods, changes in technology and fashion
became more pronounced, many of these limited communities suffered and fell into decline. That sober and commonsense
manner of communication would surely darken as livelihoods battle against an assumed hopelessness.

But in 1960 and in Todmorden, a fresh breath of life was generated into one of those struggling milling buildings when
a textile spinning and weaving firm called Fielden Brothers changed their name and product-output from textiles to a new
material that was trending across the globe.
The technology of plastics had greatly improved and with a developing market, it can be said that this Tordmorden-based
company had a pragmatic eye on the future.

Waterside Plastics specialised in glass fibre, and also made sailing boats. When Finnish architect Matti Suuronen designed
a mainly-plastic 'holiday house' or vacation home, this West Yorkshire business grabbed the opportunity to build the 'out
-of-this-world' structure and hopefully promote itself onto the world stage.

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Matti Suuronen.

Low in maintenance and easily transported, this ovoid-shaped dwelling came with specialised furnishings and stood on legs.
Fashionably titling the building 'The Futuro House', the final design was just over 26 feet in diameter and composed of
fibreglass-reinforced polyester plastic, polyester-polyurethane, and poly-methylmethacrylate.

In gratitude for the newly-acquired industry, Todmorden's Council exhibited the 'flying saucer-like' structure in their 1971's
town's 75th centenary. Loaded on a flat-bed truck, the strangely-shaped house was celebrated by the waving residents of
Todmorden as it passed down the main street.
Waterside Plastics employed almost 2,000 people in eleven of its mills, so I think we'd agree that the jubilance was warranted!

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The scene of the Futuro house in Todmorden in 1971 and a Waterside Plastics brochure.

Then, as quickly as it was exalted, the Futuro House became a pariah in housing designs.

By the mid seventies, the market for such a strangely-shaped abode dried-up with comments of it looking 'unnatural' to the
landscape and In the United States, Futuro houses were banned from many municipalities by zoning regulations with Banks
unwilling to finance their purchase.

Waterside Plastics struggled on until finally going out of business in 1979.
The once-famous and applauded house of Todmorden was now seen as a shameful idea and dejectedly parked near the
railway viaduct, just a few hundred yards from Todmorden Police Station.
The futuristic 'Space-Age' home now resorted to being occasionally used as office-space and an Information Centre.

But could it be that Alan Godfrey saw the Futuro house in the dark of that November morning?

Granted, a Policeman of Godfrey's knowledge of Todmorden knew -and seen, the structure that had been parked at the side
of Burnley Road, but there's evidence that its location was moved between 1969 and the early 80's.
Could it have been on the back of a stationary truck, ready to be moved again to an entirely different destination when
P.C Godfrey's headlights shone onto its spaceship-like surfaces?

Where that particular structure is now is unknown. A turquoise specimen of the Futuro house was shipped from South Africa
in 2013 and exhibited on the roof on London-based Central Saint Martins University of the Arts. But for ours, some said it went
to the Lake District and others proffered it was destroyed.

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Godfrey's sketch and an example of a Futuro home.

As I've said, I believe Alan Godfrey saw something he couldn't account for in 1981, it's just the above suggestion of an alternative
scenario is too glaring to ignore. What are the odds of a 'space-ship-like' structure being in the same small town that someone saw
an alleged space-ship in?

That West Yorkshire astuteness would surely give the above theory some credit.

Thank you Just Looking for the thread and I apologise for 'hijacking' it!

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