My Second Sighting

[A51Watcher]

Thanks again for another thoughtful reply BIAD.

I agree with most everything you said.

I've seen them and for me, that's a problem.

The shapes don't correlate with what we normally see in the sky, even nature steers away from 'disc' and 'orb'-shapes
to assist in air travel. Our flight culture always requires wings for for lift and in my sighting in Belen -New Mexico, only
balloons would make sense to the shapes I observed.

So why use that shape...? As said before, Kenneth Arnold saw nine crescent-shaped objects in a particular managed
formation close to Mount Rainer and it was only later when describing their movement that the 'flying saucer' moniker
was grabbed by the media and became a household name.


Kenneth Arnold.

Bob Lazar's 'Sport-model' is a saucer shape, George Adamski's ufo was typical flying saucer shape, the Paul Trent image
is the same and countless others all show a disc configuration. Why?



The shape is a waste of space in regards of the interior, as the edges have no benefit to a pilot's access -regardless of
height. Possibly, the outer 'rim area' could be used to store fuel or even hold devices to assist in stabilising and thrust, but
the main section where a pilot is presumed to be positioned would possibly negate any aerodynamic aspect of a saucer
-shaped craft.

If an engine existed such as Mr Lazar suggest and the power available to propel an object through the air was so immense
that drag wasn't an issue, then why select the saucer-shape instead of a more convenient profile to house the occupants
of the machine?

Then there's direction, animals with forward-facing eyes tend to move in the direction they can see and when designing vehicles,
this natural feature manifests in the way we build our flying craft. Pilots are placed at the front of a craft for obvious reasons and
the power to project an object tends to be placed at the rear of the pilot's position. This pattern derives for nature, the energy to
move birds through the air is situated behind where the eyes are positioned.



But we may not be talking about anything 'natural' to this planet, of course. However, the descriptions of the presumed occupants
counters the idea of a different perception from another world. The average alien is reported to have two forward-facing eyes and
move in the direction they see. Their generic physical shapes are humanoid and again, should effect their designs of vehicles to
travel in.

Maybe that's been our problem all along, we're failing to grasp a different way of life.
Comfort, efficiency, the wasteful use of materials to acquire what we use and our accepted view of how to travel through our skies...
they may be all incorrect when attempting to discover, communicate and copy the craft of those who are not of this Earth.

Wow BIAD, a lot to unpack there. I will start with Kenneth Arnold.

Here is the report he turned in to Air Force officials who came to interview him.


As we can see the shape is a classic saucer shape with straight lines on the back. 

Arnold had been in contact with Air force officials who arranged to come meet him in a few weeks to interview him in person about his sighting. He spoke with one of them several times by phone in the interim before the meeting. When they arrived they started off with small talk about the latest sightings being reported in the news. They updated him on the William Rhodes case in Arizona and described the shape of the craft he had gotten pictures of.
 



Arnold later said the description they gave caused his memory to suddenly to recall a detail he had forgotten until then. He said all the craft in the formation he saw were circular except for the lead craft which had straight edges along the trailing edge.

So where did the photo you posted come from with Arnold posing with a painting of a bat shape craft?
It turns out Arnold had agreed to sell his story to Amazing Stories magazine which had a large art department that created illustrations for the cover and all the stories they published that did not have photos to go with them. Arnold had no photos of his sighting so the owner directed his art department to create that painting and when Arnol showed up to pick up his check, he was asked to pose with that painting before he got his check.

I have collected all the UFO sighting reports from 1947 and have 1500+ reports from the entire year from all across the country and the vast majority report silver saucer shaped craft.

As you can see from my avatar my footage from Area 51 shows a saucer shaped craft and the same goes for Bob Lazar's footage. Not to mention what we saw with the naked eye were also saucer shaped craft. This became even more apparent when they landed about a 1/4 mile away from me.  

George Adamskis' story deserves no place in examining true UFO history. All that he accomplished was demonstrating he had figured out false perspective -



You can see a summary of my 1947 sighting collection here -

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index...opic=329.0

I will respond to more of your points next time. 

Cheers