04-07-2022, 07:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-07-2022, 08:17 PM by hounddoghowlie.)
(04-04-2022, 02:22 PM)727Sky Wrote:I pretty much agree with everything shown except one. The mass graves and at the church and in other cities was not the russians trying to hide bodies. It was Ukrainians burying the dead. Now who killed them I'd have to says russians be it by shelling, missiles,systematic targeting and random people just gunned down or tortured to death.
Here are a couple of reports from early to mid march,
this one from inews, who is left centered but ranked high for factual reporting. dated Mar11
Quote:It comes as another hospital in Bucha, near the capital city of Kyiv, has been digging a mass grave for a second day on Thursday, according to Kyiv Independent journalist Anastasiia Lapatina.
Link: Ukraine buries dead in mass graves as bodies fill streets in besieged cities under heavy Russian shelling
From the Telegraph, right bais mixed factual reporting, dated mar10,
Quote:The people of Mariupol are digging mass graves.
In scenes reminiscent of the Second World War, workers can be seen pushing bodies into a 25-metre-long trench in one of the city's cemeteries as the sheer number of casualties from Russian bombing overwhelms morgues across the city.
Link: 'We cannot even identify them': Mass graves fill up in Mariupol after more than 1,200 killed
And this one from the Daily Mail, yeah I know but like K said "Best investigative reporting on the planet. Read the New York Times if you want, they get lucky sometimes". it has the facebook link in it from somebody that posted it where he posted it on Mar 12 and it looks like him being one of the ones burying them.
Dated Mar 17
Quote:
- Men in suburb of Bucha near Kyiv are seen moving bodies in to a mass grave
- Bodies are bagged and buried next to the Church of St. Andrew Pervozvannoho
- No identifiers were left for the dead and no memorial laid, the video's sharer said
- The suburb has been the scene of intense fighting known as the 'Battle of Bucha'
- WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
Link: Harrowing video shows corpses being dumped in mass graves in Ukrainian town where dozens have been killed by Russian troops
Facebook account
Andriy Levkivskyi - official page
My point is all the latest MSM and reporting seem to omit that Ukrainians are burying these people and making it sound like the russians did most of these big ones.
Fact is propaganda is strong from every side in this shit show, and people need to look at it with a finer comb.
ETA: I forgot to post this from the first link
Quote:One resident, Marina Levinchuk, described how local authorities were instructing people whose family members have been killed to cover their bodies “tie up the hands and the legs and leave it outside”.
“There are just bodies lying in the streets,” she told the New York Times.
Now this might explain why so many are seen with their hands tied together