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Face The Facts,,,, Democrats Are STUPID!
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(01-11-2020, 02:19 PM)Wallfire Wrote: If the war with Iran kicks off it will be done with high tec, there is no need for "boots on the ground". But there is a mind set in the higher leadership that thinks you must always have boots on the ground, because if you dont then they lose the point of there job. This was very well seen in WW1, Tanks have no place on the battlefield, only men and carvery. 
If the high tec road is taken then both Europe and the USA must use Internment and mass deportation to control the muslims, but I cant see the governments at the moment having the balls to do that. But times are changing, so who knows

The higher-ups mindset is worse than just boots-on-the-ground to preserve the relevancy of their jobs. Too many of them want "war honors", accolades and medals, gained on the backs of the troops under them.

When we went into Afghanistan in late 2001, some of us had a workable plan all worked out. It was to send in Special Forces to act as liaisons and forward air controllers to call in hi-tec hell on the enemy, and let the Afghans do the grunt work and mop-up. It was working, too - when we took Kabul, there were only 100 American boots on the ground, on the feet of 50 Special Forces soldiers.

50 Americans leveraged the locals as force multipliers, and we were taking out the enemy like nobody's business, and the Afghans had the honors of taking their own country back from Shaitan.

That all changed when the conventional generals realized that they wouldn't be getting any medals or glory, because they had no part in the events. Consequently, they bitched and howled and pissed and moaned that we needed "boots on the ground" in order to achieve a victory, and a dumb-ass in the White House listened to them, started sending in huge masses of ground troops where they were not needed or wanted, and the war went all to hell. Now we see the results of that decision, 19 years on and the war is still not over. We could have had that shit wrapped up in 18 months, maximum, and got on with the serious business of helping the Afghans set up a government that THEY could live with, one THEY wanted within the confines of their own society.

We had also made plans for small hunter-killer teams to ferret out pockets of Taliban resistance, calling in air support on them whenever we found a camp instead of sending in masses of way too visible troopers. Risk a max of 3-6 guys and no advanced warning to the enemy vs. company sized units and larger telegraphing their position and intention for miles around... it seemed a no-brainer to us.

Instead, we sent in occupation forces and set to work forcing a foreign ideology on them, thereby making enemies instead of friends, and dragging the war on into infinity.

This is not "20/20 hindsight" - at least two of us screamed until we were hoarse that they were doing it all wrong, even way back then. No one listened, and we got what we have.

To compound the insult, a few heads at the top thought that if one war was good for their agenda, two wars were better, and the next thing you know, we invaded and occupied Iraq as well. That went well for us, huh?

No one listens to the guys at the bottom, and they are the ones who pay the price for the dumbass decisions by the dumbasses at the top. Ask any Special Forces trooper how you work with indigs and make friends and allies. Every single one of them will tell you that we did it wrong in Afghanistan, and they will tell you in detail HOW we did it wrong.

Now, on to Iran with piss-poor decisions from people with too much shiny on their hats.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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RE: Face The Facts,,,, Democrats Are STUPID! - by Wallfire - 01-11-2020, 02:19 PM
RE: Face The Facts,,,, Democrats Are STUPID! - by Ninurta - 01-11-2020, 10:48 PM

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