01-10-2017, 05:31 AM
senona
Oh no, I do not think it is okay.
Not at all.
Hence why I refuse to download many apps, due to privacy/permission issues.
In fact, we just heard about the Amazon Echo in the news the other day.
The murder kind of news. Seriously.
Get this shit....
See this nice cute thingy to listen to music with...that is called Amazon's Echo.
Amazon.com
And it does so much more than just play music evidently
An Amazon Echo may be the key to solving a murder case
On a personal note, I got creeped out myself back during the springtime.
I had been looking at website makers with the intention of opening up an online Airbrush tshirt store to bring in some extra money and finally decided on Weebly.
I had mentioned it a few times to my honey on which one I decided on being as it was simple and had the options I wanted in layout.
Next thing you know, there is a commercial for Weebly.
To say I had a WTF moment would be well, the truth. lol.
Another time I was complaining about how my eyes burn and are scratchy when on the computer for a while.
Jim suggested some eye drops.
So I get some and we talk about my eyes being dry and bam, next thing we see are ads with Jennifer Anniston talking about dry eyes.
No, our TV is not new, meaning it is not labeled a smart TV.
However it is HD and is connected to DirectTV and our XBox.
In my opinion, that right there is too intrusive!!
If all of a sudden the internet crashed and technology crumbled, I would not be upset at all.
We have become to dependent on these digital gadgets IMO without even thinking of what all they are capable of doing behind the scenes.
And yes, I have black tape over my camera on PC.
But the audio is still there. sigh.
Big Brother.
Big Companies.
Big Marketing.
They are all watching/listening to us.
And we are all oblivious to it.
Of course, many do not care.
We happily buy this stuff and 'invite' them into our homes.
Giving up whatever privacy we have.
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Very well said @senona - and it will only get worse as IoT enters people's homes more and more, and there is more connectivity between devices.
I see this as a major problem on the horizon, and one I will be watching very carefully. In the meantime, I have no connected devices at home, I am pretty old school - still have a 5 disc CD player at home and a Bluetooth speaker for Mp3s. Tv is a box for watching DVDs, no tv stations at all on it.
(01-10-2017, 01:35 AM)1984hasarrived Wrote: I just thought that this raised some interesting privacy questions, regarding speakers, which are an output device, although now with technology they have become bi-directional.
And the responses of @guohua and @senona are both what most people feel, as I posted in another forum, ie all the big companies are doing it, so it is ok, that is how it is.
This passive giving up of freedom and privacy is something that the poster in the linked article is questioning, and is asking about where his data is stored - a fair enough question regarding the issues of illegal downloading, prosecution etc, as that may change from one country to another.
Sadly this is the norm, and people just shrug their shoulders.
Oh no, I do not think it is okay.
Not at all.
Hence why I refuse to download many apps, due to privacy/permission issues.
In fact, we just heard about the Amazon Echo in the news the other day.
The murder kind of news. Seriously.
Get this shit....
See this nice cute thingy to listen to music with...that is called Amazon's Echo.
Amazon.com
And it does so much more than just play music evidently
An Amazon Echo may be the key to solving a murder case
Quote:Internet-connected devices may start helping in criminal cases. As first reported in The Information, police in Bentonville, Arkansas have issued a warrant to Amazon, asking the company to hand over data from an Echo device to help prosecute a suspected murderer.
James Andrew Bates, the suspect in the case, was charged with first-degree murder in November of 2015 after authorities found victim Victor Collins strangled and drowned in Mr. Bates’ hot tub.
Quote:Bates has several internet-connected devices in his home, including a Nest thermostat and a Honeywell alarm system, but the key witness in the case may be his Amazon Echo, which, as per The Information, police records say could have controlled the streaming music, which was being wirelessly transmitted throughout the night using Echo’s assistant Alexa.
However, it’s unclear how much data police could extract from the device or how useful that data would be in the case.
Alexa is always listening through a system of seven built-in microphones but waits for you to say the “wake word” to send it commands, like asking for the weather or which music to play, according to the company. The device also streams your audio to the cloud, including a fraction of a second of audio before the wake word.
On a personal note, I got creeped out myself back during the springtime.
I had been looking at website makers with the intention of opening up an online Airbrush tshirt store to bring in some extra money and finally decided on Weebly.
I had mentioned it a few times to my honey on which one I decided on being as it was simple and had the options I wanted in layout.
Next thing you know, there is a commercial for Weebly.
To say I had a WTF moment would be well, the truth. lol.
Another time I was complaining about how my eyes burn and are scratchy when on the computer for a while.
Jim suggested some eye drops.
So I get some and we talk about my eyes being dry and bam, next thing we see are ads with Jennifer Anniston talking about dry eyes.
No, our TV is not new, meaning it is not labeled a smart TV.
However it is HD and is connected to DirectTV and our XBox.
In my opinion, that right there is too intrusive!!
If all of a sudden the internet crashed and technology crumbled, I would not be upset at all.
We have become to dependent on these digital gadgets IMO without even thinking of what all they are capable of doing behind the scenes.
And yes, I have black tape over my camera on PC.
But the audio is still there. sigh.
Big Brother.
Big Companies.
Big Marketing.
They are all watching/listening to us.
And we are all oblivious to it.
Of course, many do not care.
We happily buy this stuff and 'invite' them into our homes.
Giving up whatever privacy we have.
--
Very well said @senona - and it will only get worse as IoT enters people's homes more and more, and there is more connectivity between devices.
I see this as a major problem on the horizon, and one I will be watching very carefully. In the meantime, I have no connected devices at home, I am pretty old school - still have a 5 disc CD player at home and a Bluetooth speaker for Mp3s. Tv is a box for watching DVDs, no tv stations at all on it.