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It's News Guys, But Not As We Know it!
Oh no... a killer asteroid has been hiding in the sunshine and now is rolling towards us as click-bait.
What is a hermaphrodite to do?
tinysure



Quote:'Planet killer' asteroid found hiding in sun's glare

'It's estimated at 1.5km wide - nearly a mile - a size that astronomers class as "planet killers" due to the damage they
can cause. The rock is believed to be in the top 5% of largest-known PHAs.
Called 2022 AP7, it's one of several newly discovered asteroids found orbiting near Earth and Venus.

[Image: skynews-asteroid-space_5950808.jpg?20221101110818]

The asteroid crosses the Earth's own orbit, but there's no need to panic for now: experts say any possible collision probably
wouldn't happen for a few thousand years. The asteroids were detected using the Cerro Tololo observatory in Chile and detailed
in a study in the Astronomical Journal. "So far we have found two large near-Earth asteroids that are about 1km across, a size
that we call planet killers," said Scott S Sheppard from the Earth and Planets Laboratory of the Carnegie Institution for Science.

The other large asteroid has an orbit completely within the Earth's own orbit, so won't ever trouble us.
Finding asteroids in the inner Solar System is tricky because of the bright background from the sun's glare. There are also only
two 10-minute windows each night to conduct observations.

"Only about 25 asteroids with orbits completely within Earth's orbit have been discovered to date because of the difficulty of
observing near the glare of the sun," said Mr Sheppard, lead author of the study. The astronomer added: "There are likely only
a few NEAs (near Earth asteroids) with similar sizes left to find, and these large undiscovered asteroids likely have orbits that
keep them interior to the orbits of Earth and Venus most of the time."

In September, NASA smashed a spacecraft into a much smaller asteroid (160 metres-wide) seven million miles away and
managed to shift its orbit. The experiment was intended to test whether action could be effective should the Earth ever be
threatened by an incoming object.

The asteroid that fell to Earth as a meteorite and wiped out the dinosaurs by igniting wildfires thousands of miles from its
impact zone is thought to have been at least six miles wide (10km), but may have been as much as nine miles (15km) across...'

Archived Sky News:
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-01-2022, 10:03 PM)BIAD Wrote: Oh no... a killer asteroid has been hiding in the sunshine and now is rolling towards us as click-bait.

What is a hermaphrodite to do?

tinysure

Better declare war on asteroids!

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Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun had said according to Carol Rosin to justify our Space based weapon system something along the lines of:

1. The Russians will be considered the enemy
2. Then Terrorists will be identified
3. Then identify 3rd world crazies
4. Next will be asteroids
5. Alien threat card will be played last.

Lets get outta here.

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Scientists Are Planning to Build Noah's Ark on the Moon
"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


I meant to post this three days ago, but it slipped past.
However, look at the balls on this!!
tinywhat

Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
tinysure Really?


Quote:Driver ‘seriously injured’ after being run over three times by own car
Swiss woman, 45, was run over three times after she got out of her car and left the engine running

[Image: 1771.jpg?width=620&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none]
St Gallen, north-eastern Switzerland. A place where the handbrake hasn't been invented yet.

'A woman in Switzerland was seriously injured after she got out of her car with the engine still on only for it
to run her over three times, police said on Friday.

The 45-year-old had stepped out of her car in a residential area in St Gallen in northeastern Switzerland, probably
in order to get something out of the boot, regional police said, according to the Swiss news agency ATS.
But then the car, which was on a slight slope, began rolling backwards.

The woman had attempted in vain to stop the vehicle, before falling to the ground and was run over a first time.
The car had then rammed into another vehicle and rebounded back in the opposite direction, running over the woman
a second time, police said.

But the car then hit a sidewalk, sending it back towards the woman and running her over a third time, before finally
hitting a wooden barrier and coming to a halt. The woman was sent to hospital in a serious condition...'

Archived Guardian Article:
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-05-2022, 12:29 PM)BIAD Wrote: tinysure Really?


Quote:Driver ‘seriously injured’ after being run over three times by own car
Swiss woman, 45, was run over three times after she got out of her car and left the engine running

[Image: 1771.jpg?width=620&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none]
St Gallen, north-eastern Switzerland. A place where the handbrake hasn't been invented yet.

'A woman in Switzerland was seriously injured after she got out of her car with the engine still on only for it
to run her over three times, police said on Friday.

The 45-year-old had stepped out of her car in a residential area in St Gallen in northeastern Switzerland, probably
in order to get something out of the boot, regional police said, according to the Swiss news agency ATS.
But then the car, which was on a slight slope, began rolling backwards.

The woman had attempted in vain to stop the vehicle, before falling to the ground and was run over a first time.
The car had then rammed into another vehicle and rebounded back in the opposite direction, running over the woman
a second time, police said.

But the car then hit a sidewalk, sending it back towards the woman and running her over a third time, before finally
hitting a wooden barrier and coming to a halt. The woman was sent to hospital in a serious condition...'

Archived Guardian Article:

She most have really pissed her car off. 

She doesn't call her car "Christine" does she? "KITT"?
tinycool

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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(11-05-2022, 12:58 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(11-05-2022, 12:29 PM)BIAD Wrote: tinysure Really?


Quote:Driver ‘seriously injured’ after being run over three times by own car
Swiss woman, 45, was run over three times after she got out of her car and left the engine running

[Image: 1771.jpg?width=620&quality=45&dpr=2&s=none]
St Gallen, north-eastern Switzerland. A place where the handbrake hasn't been invented yet.

'A woman in Switzerland was seriously injured after she got out of her car with the engine still on only for it
to run her over three times, police said on Friday.

The 45-year-old had stepped out of her car in a residential area in St Gallen in northeastern Switzerland, probably
in order to get something out of the boot, regional police said, according to the Swiss news agency ATS.
But then the car, which was on a slight slope, began rolling backwards.

The woman had attempted in vain to stop the vehicle, before falling to the ground and was run over a first time.
The car had then rammed into another vehicle and rebounded back in the opposite direction, running over the woman
a second time, police said.

But the car then hit a sidewalk, sending it back towards the woman and running her over a third time, before finally
hitting a wooden barrier and coming to a halt. The woman was sent to hospital in a serious condition...'

Archived Guardian Article:

She most have really pissed her car off. 

She doesn't call her car "Christine" does she? "KITT"?
tinycool

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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(11-01-2022, 10:03 PM)BIAD Wrote:
Quote:'Planet killer' asteroid found hiding in sun's glare

'It's estimated at 1.5km wide - nearly a mile - a size that astronomers class as "planet killers" due to the damage they
can cause. The rock is believed to be in the top 5% of largest-known PHAs.
Called 2022 AP7, it's one of several newly discovered asteroids found orbiting near Earth and Venus.

Archived Sky News:
Most likely scenario in terms of probability:

Distance from Impact:  1600.00 km ( = 994.00 miles )
Projectile diameter:  1.50 km ( = 0.93 miles )
Projectile Density:  5000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity:  17.00 km per second ( = 10.60 miles per second )
Impact Angle:  45 degrees
Target Density:  1000 kg/m3
Target Type: Liquid water of depth 3.7 km ( = 2.3 miles ), over crystalline rock.

Final Crater Diameter: 15.4 km ( = 9.57 miles )
Final Crater Depth:  674 meters ( = 2210 feet )

Air Blast:
The air blast will arrive approximately 1.35 hours after impact.
Damage Description: Glass windows may shatter.

Tsunami Wave:
The impact-generated tsunami wave arrives approximately 2.4 hours after impact. 
Tsunami wave amplitude is between:  23.9 cm ( = 9.4 inches) and 32.9 meters ( = 108.0 feet).

-vs-

You're about to have a bad day!!

Distance from Impact:  160.00 km ( = 99.40 miles )
Target Type: Sedimentary Rock

Final Crater Diameter: 25 km ( = 15.5 miles )
Final Crater Depth:  780 meters ( = 2560 feet )

Thermal Radiation:
Time for maximum radiation:  1.28 seconds after impact
Visible fireball radius:  19.7 km ( = 12.2 miles ) The fireball appears 27.9 times larger than the sun
Effects of Thermal Radiation:
Clothing ignites
Much of the body suffers third degree burns
Newspaper ignites
Plywood flames
Deciduous trees ignite
Grass ignites

Seismic Effects:
Damage negligible in buildings of good design and construction; slight to moderate in well-built ordinary structures; considerable damage in poorly built or badly designed structures; some chimneys broken.

Ejecta:
The ejecta will arrive approximately 3.06 minutes after the impact.
At your position there is a fine dusting of ejecta with occasional larger fragments
Average Ejecta Thickness:  19 cm ( = 7.5 inches )
Mean Fragment Diameter:  4.67 cm ( = 1.84 inches ) 

Air Blast:
The air blast will arrive approximately 8.08 minutes after impact.
Max wind velocity:  188 m/s = 420 mph
Sound Intensity:  101 dB (May cause ear pain)
Damage Description:
Multistory wall-bearing buildings will collapse.
Wood frame buildings will almost completely collapse.
Highway truss bridges will suffer substantial distortion of bracing.
Glass windows will shatter.
Up to 90 percent of trees blown down; remainder stripped of branches and leaves.

https://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEarth/ImpactEffects/
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
I love the idea of a fear-driven news item being toned via a website that supports a Creative Commons Attribution licence
like the Sky article I posted does. In this particular case, there's a highlighted word in one of the paragraphs that will lead a
reader to where the article's content originated. Really, this post should be placed in 'The Media & Their Narratives' thread
of Rogue Nation, but it may serve in helping to show how these 'startling click-bait' pieces are generated and an idea of the
true worth of mainstream media.

The 'Study'-link takes the reader to 'iopscience.iop.org' where a page is titled 'The Astronomical Journal'. So the Sky article was
created through a truncated source and not the original that the article proclaims in one of its paragraphs. Unsurprisingly, one
would accept what the Sky article was displaying a realistic version from The Astronomical Journal and assume the source
material that Sky is drawing from, is accurate too.

However, the essay from several astronomers was published in September of 2022 in the American Astronomical Society
and only surfaced a whole month later, but what is more important is it comes along with a C.C.A. licence.

So what is this licence?
"Attribution 4.0 – This licence lets others distribute, remix, tweak, and build upon your work, even commercially,
as long as they credit you for the original creation. This is the most accommodating of licences offered.
Recommended for maximum dissemination and use of licensed materials."

Iopscience.iop.org is an agency that:
"The IOP Policy Centre provides an active and authoritative voice for physics. We work in all areas that affect physics,
from schools education through to research and innovation and supply timely, evidence-based scientific advice and
in-depth analyses to governments and other agencies."

From a fleeting glance at the Abstract of the essay, I'd say the astronomers had been surveying the movement of asteroids
within the orbits of Earth and Venus. Of course, some of asteroids COULD impact on our planet and MIGHT cause catastrophic
world-changing effects.

But the actual source of the Sky article discusses the effects of a few stable orbiting asteroids in the way of stresses caused by
other bodies on their journey past Mercury and Venus.
"One way to estimate the true number of small NEOs better is to include more objects found interior to Earth's orbit in
population calculations, increasing the completion of orbital NEO types (Granvik et al. 2018; Harris & Chodas 2021).

Currently the population models are biased toward NEOs found exterior to Earth's orbit as they are the easiest to find
observationally. Only about 25 asteroids are known that have orbits completely interior to Earth's orbit and have
well-determined orbits (called Atira or Apohele asteroids).

This is compared to the thousands of known NEOs with orbits that cross Earth's orbit such as Aten and Apollo NEOs with
semimajor axes interior and exterior to Earth, respectively (Mainzer et al. 2014; Schunova-Lilly et al. 2017; Morbidelli et al. 2020)."

If one reads the entire research paper, it tends to dwell within the subject of diverse sizes of asteroids and a small number that
reside in Venus' orbit. The orbit of the newly discovered Atira asteroid 2021 PH27 comes close to our planet, but the emphasis
of the paper is how it crosses Venus and Mercury's trajectory twice respectively on its course around the sun.

This may have implications to Earth in the future, but the use of titles like 'Planet Killer' is a little overblown, to say the least!
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Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-05-2022, 03:05 PM)BIAD Wrote: I love the idea of a fear-driven news item being toned via a website that supports a Creative Commons Attribution licence
like the Sky article I posted does. 
It always puts a smile on my face too.  tinybiggrin
(11-05-2022, 03:05 PM)BIAD Wrote: This may have implications to Earth in the future, but the use of titles like 'Planet Killer' is a little overblown, to say the least!

The first calculation in my reply is the one most likely given the data supplied.  I loved that threat of a 25cm high tsunami. tinylaughing Then again, the little meteorite which recently blew up in the sky over Russia was nothing at all to sneeze at.

The human mind doesn't easily grasp big numbers anymore than it realizes how fast an object is moving. And sometimes, we're not told how fast things are 'really' going ... for our own peace of mind.

ETA: I really liked that picture you posted, BTW.  minusculebeercheers
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
It's a doozy and has been brewing quietly for some time. A couple of days ago, the British media announced that three
'Cluedo' cards from the popular game had been discovered during a Daily Mail investigation of the mystery surrounding
the supposed-murderer Lord Lucan.

This Earl of Lucan-chap back in the seventies was alleged to have killed his family's nanny and then done a runner after
faking his death. It's really a mundane page-turner, but for the elite-class-disliking UK public, the MSM at the time believed
it was intriguing and happened in London -to boot! (London is where everyone lives who isn't a peasant in the media's eyes.)

Back then, the papers had no interest in Lord Lucan (or Baron Bingham, Baron Lucan, Baronet Bingham of Castlebar) until
the night he supposedly bludgeoned to death his wife's 29-year-old house-help by mistake in the basement of the Lucan home.
Apparently, it's believed his target with a piece of lead-pipe was Lady Lucan -his wife and mother of his three children.

Anyway, the globe-trotting degenerate gambler who lived the high-life, held a fancy five-storey home in London and spent
his nights throwing away his money on backgammon and bridge and vroom-vrooming around in his Austin Martin, knew he
had screwed-up big-time and realised he had to get away.

The media then went into full sensationalising-mode and the same assumed-enthralled disadvantaged low-born were given
an insight to what the rich-and-famous enjoyed as everyday living. They told how Lucan's disraught wife had fought with her
husband after the dastardly deed and how he'd convinced Veronica to give him some time to escape his bloody actions in
the basement. Lady Lucan later walked into a nearby Pub and from that moment, the balloon went up.
....................................................

2022.
The Daily Mail have an exclusive... because they always have an exclusive, regardless whether the story is interesting or not.

"EXCLUSIVE: Colonel Mustard in the hall, with the lead piping:
The Cluedo cards found in Lord Lucan's car that eerily describe the murder of the family nanny... so was it a bizarre confession,
twisted joke, or an attempt to frame the infamous fugitive"
Archived Daily Mail Article:

It was stated that Scotland Yard had discovered these playing cards in the Earl of Lucan's abandoned vehicle and they 'seemed'
to indicate his part in the nanny's killing. Then two days after the supposed research of a recently-released Scotland Yard's cold
case review, The Mirror announced they've actually found the culprit who'd coshed Sandra Rivett on the head back in 1974 and
he was living in Australia!
Dumb Keystone Cops with their silly helmets... if they'd only asked the media.
tinysure
What does all this mean...? Well, it's something that could either be a mere column-filler for ratings -instead of writing insulting
innuendos about their new Prime Minister or this could be the real deal. Please Lucy, don't move the ball away this time?
tinywondering
Here's the piece.



Quote:EXCLUSIVE: Lord Lucan breakthrough as mystery man's face is EXACT match for missing killer
22:00, 6 Nov 2022 UPDATED 23:01, 6 Nov 2022

'A facial recognition expert says an elderly man living in Australia is a definite match for runaway murderer Lord Lucan.
Lucan killed a nanny and vanished in 1974. Professor Hassan Ugail says the algorithm linking Lucan to a man in Oz,
blurred for legal reasons, is “never wrong”.

[Image: 0_Lord-Lucan.jpg][Image: 0_IMG_0315-2.jpg]
It's unbelievable, but it's science.

The leading computer scientist used an artificial intelligence algorithm to run 4,000 cross-checks of seven photos – four
of Lucan and three of the mystery pensioner in Australia. The expert, who ID-ed two of the Russians behind the Salisbury
Skripal poisonings, said: “They produced a match. This isn’t an opinion, it’s science and mathematical fact.”

Monday – November 7 – is the 48th anniversary of the day Lucan murdered family nanny Sandra Rivett.
The aristocrat disappeared the following day. Friends claimed that he jumped off a cross-channel ferry but his body was
never found. Lucan would now be 87 – the same age as the frail man living in a small town just outside Brisbane, capital
of the state of Queensland.

Four of the photos analysed were of Lucan – from a 14-year-old boy until his disappearance – and three of the mystery man
in Australia tracked down by Rivett’s son Neil Berriman. Mr Berriman said: “I’ve spent nine years trying to prove this man is
Lucan. Now, with this new scientific information, the police must act.
“This isn’t emotion. It’s fact.”

Prof Ugail’s startling findings will send shockwaves through the British establishment.
The analysis carried out by Ugail, Professor of Visual Computing at the University of Bradford, included micro-millimetre
measurements of spaces between facial features. Ugail has spent 20 years developing his artificial intelligence algorithm.
A second company, a highly respected US firm, ran the same tests and came to the same conclusion.

Prof Ugail said: “In recent years there has been a massive imp-rovement in artificial intelligence and facial recognition technology.
“We can now confirm things that would have been impossible just five years ago. We’ve compared thousands and thousands
of people and there have been literally millions of photos that we’ve analysed using the algorithm.
“It has never been wrong. “This algorithm has been trained on millions of photos.

“People of different ethnicities, different ages – the only time it will fail is if you put in identical twins. It only takes a few minutes
to run it and it comes back with a percentage – a ‘similarity index’. “Even if you put two exact images of the same person, you are
never going to get 100% similarity because of the way images are taken – pixels and everything else.
“Anything with a similarity index of 75% or higher is conclusively the same individual.

“The lowest score I got was around 76. I think the highest was 88.” When Mr Berriman initially contacted Prof Ugail, he did not
tell him about who he suspected was in the pictures. Prof Ugail, who grew up in the Maldives, said: “Now that I know more about
this Lord Lucan case I’m very pleased that I said ‘yes’. “It wasn’t a story I was particularly interested in, or a more recent one like
Madeleine McCann. “I had heard of Lord Lucan but knew very little about the case.”

Lady Lucan – Veronica Bingham – fled from her house in Belgravia, central London, covered in blood on November 7, 1974.
Safe in a nearby pub, the Plumbers Arms, she told how she had heard screams from the basement, and found her husband there.
She said he attacked her. His car, its interior stained with blood, was later found abandoned in Newhaven, East Sussex. A piece of
bandaged lead pipe was found in the boot.

In 1975, an inquest jury found Lord Lucan – formerly John Bingham – to be responsible for Sandra Rivett’s death. Her body was
found in his home. Lucan was declared legally dead in 2016. Lady Lucan had three children, Frances, George and Camilla.
She committed suicide in 2017, aged 80, after wrongly diagnosing herself with Parkinson’s disease.

Prof Ugail said of his facial recognition system: “It’s actually the culmination of 15 to 20 years of work with a lot of people in our
lab, not just me, my academic colleagues, 15 to 20 PhD students. There has been millions of pounds of research money that came
into the visual computing related research I do, part of which is this face recognition algorithm...'
Archived Mirror Article:

The rest of the article is back-patting about the Skripal investigation and how Ugail's facial recognition system is cool.
But as you can see, the likeness is uncanny.
tinysurprised

(But also notice the hyphen in the word 'improvement'... This was supposed to be a quote from the Professor, why insert that?)
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
Music 
(11-07-2022, 11:27 AM)BIAD Wrote: Lady Lucan – Veronica Bingham – fled from her house in Belgravia, central London, covered in blood on November 7, 1974.
Safe in a nearby pub, the Plumbers Arms, she told how she had heard screams from the basement, and found her husband there.
She said he attacked her. His car, its interior stained with blood, was later found abandoned in Newhaven, East Sussex. A piece of
bandaged lead pipe was found in the boot.

In 1975, an inquest jury found Lord Lucan – formerly John Bingham – to be responsible for Sandra Rivett’s death. Her body was
found in his home. Lucan was declared legally dead in 2016. Lady Lucan had three children, Frances, George and Camilla.
She committed suicide in 2017, aged 80, after wrongly diagnosing herself with Parkinson’s disease.

To throw a monkey wrench into the works, what if Lady Lucan found the two in the basement and she was the one that killed the nanny?


What if he ran because she had some serious dirt on him?

What if she committed suicide because carrying the guilt all those years finally got to her?

Just a thought.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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(11-07-2022, 01:04 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: To throw a monkey wrench into the works, what if Lady Lucan found the two in the basement and she was the one that killed the nanny?
What if he ran because she had some serious dirt on him?

What if she committed suicide because carrying the guilt all those years finally got to her?

Just a thought.

Aah, then it wouldn't be so intriguing and the media would have to construct a story of forbidden love across the
class-structure along with a jealous high-society woman who believes the country's laws don't apply to her social
setting!

Plus a two-timing nobleman falling on his sword for the mother of his children who'd reacted to her husband dallying
with the Help...? No, that would never do!
tinybiggrin

But it would make more sense when looking back at the incident.
tinywondering
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-07-2022, 11:27 AM)BIAD Wrote: It's a doozy and has been brewing quietly for some time. A couple of days ago, the British media announced that three 'Cluedo' cards from the popular game had been discovered during a Daily Mail investigation of the mystery surrounding the supposed-murderer Lord Lucan.

"A facial recognition expert" - that being AI, not a human, but programmed by a human who is “never wrong”..."It's unbelievable, but it's science." LOL. Yea, ok. And of course "15 to 20 PhD students" couldn't possibly be wrong. ScIeNcE!

Generate a Fake Human


Ya know, it's always amused me how in the hell the "Daily Mail" of all news outlets always seems to acquire an Exclusive and often the first to publish an updated scoop on most any sensational emotional story, especially when it involves sex (Ghislaine Maxwell hit pieces) and/or a gruesome kill mystery story, AND especially such stories originating from the USA! And they always have plenty of pics. Across the pond the NY Post is often the first outlet to run a version of the DM story and if too spicy such as with the socialite class then their sister pub "Page Six" picks it up.

What is even more intriguing to me is who owns the Daily Mail.

Luv me some aristocrat insider scoops who you know play cover for the GCHQ spooks and their frens across the pond.

Quote:The paper is owned by the Daily Mail and General Trust. Jonathan Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere, a great-grandson of one of the original co-founders Harold Sidney Harmsworth, is the current chairman and controlling shareholder of the Daily Mail and General Trust, while day-to-day editorial decisions for the newspaper are usually made by a team led by the editor, Geordie Greig, who succeeded Paul Dacre in September 2018.

Quote:Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere (born 3 December 1967), is a British aristocrat and inheritor of a newspaper and media empire founded by his great-grandfather Harold Sidney Harmsworth.

He has non-domicile (non-dom) tax status and owns his media businesses through a complex structure of offshore holdings and trusts.

[Image: X5Pti7A.jpg]

A coronet of 16 "pearls" touching one another, nine being seen in representation. I have a long standing obsession with the "X-Steganography symbolism that has led me down many rabbit holes & labyrinths. Not sure on meaning of "4 bees" in British heraldry.

The Bees of Napoleon

Daily Mail somewhat reminds me of Robert Maxwell's media empire.

Quote:Harold Sidney Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere had open support for fascism and praise for Nazism and the British Union of Fascists contributed to the popularity of those views in the 1930s. That ambition for which Rothermere became best known was not successful, and he died in Bermuda early in the war.

Rothermere visited and corresponded with Hitler on multiple occasions, such as after the 1930 elections that saw the Nazi Party dramatically increase the number of its seats in the Reichstag, which Rothermere welcomed. In gratitude for this foreign support, Hitler granted Rothermere an exclusive interview. On another occasion, on 1 October 1938, Rothermere sent Hitler a telegram in support of Germany's invasion of the Sudetenland, and expressed the hope that "Adolf the Great" would become a popular figure in Britain.

Quote:Geordie Greig born 16 December 1960 in Lambeth, London, Greig is the son of Sir Carron Greig and Monica Stourton, granddaughter of the 24th Lord Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton. Members of his father's family have been royal courtiers for three generations — including his twin sister Laura, who was a lady-in-waiting to Diana, Princess of Wales. He attended Eton College and St Peter's College, Oxford.

In October 2019, Greig said that he hoped the Daily Mail would overtake The Sun as Britain's best-selling newspaper. The Daily Mail's profits were reported as stable in 2019, while other tabloids "suffered". Greig observed: "We do defy gravity... Murdoch always used to say there would be two groups standing in the end. Maybe that's going to be right." In June 2020, The Guardian reported that the Daily Mail had overtaken The Sun as the UK's best-selling paper that May. Greig hailed it as a "historic moment" for the newspaper.

In 2005, The Observer newspaper termed Greig "Britain's most connected man".

On 25 November 1995 he married Kathryn Terry, who is originally from Texas; the couple have three children, a son, Jasper, and twin daughters, Monica and Octavia. Greig and his family live in Notting Hill, London.

The long history of the Daily Mail campaigning against the interests of working people
"The New World fell not to a sword but to a meme." – Daniel Quinn

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that." ― John Lennon

Rogue News says that the US is a reality show posing as an Empire.


(11-07-2022, 08:23 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Ya know, it's always amused me how in the hell the "Daily Mail" of all news outlets always seems to acquire an Exclusive and often the first to publish an updated scoop on most any sensational emotional story, especially when it involves sex (Ghislaine Maxwell hit pieces) and/or a gruesome kill mystery story, AND especially such stories originating from the USA! And they always have plenty of pics. Across the pond the NY Post is often the first outlet to run a version of the DM story and if too spicy such as with the socialite class then their sister pub "Page Six" picks it up.

What is even more intriguing to me is who owns the Daily Mail...


Quote:A coronet of 16 "pearls" touching one another, nine being seen in representation.
I have a long standing obsession with the "X-Steganography symbolism that has led me down many rabbit holes & labyrinths.
Not sure on meaning of "4 bees" in British heraldry.

Bees have often been associated with industriousness, but in Heraldic terms, this could be viewed in several ways.
Does the quartet of bees on the Harmsworth coat of arms imply the owner searches for diligence towards employment
from the four points of the compass or is the shield displaying the act of controlling the workers to undertake such labour?

Bees signified regal power in the elite Egyptian times, along with wealth and a command over others. We commonly take
these insects to convey a communal task undertaken by all, but I noticed that -even though artistry in heraldry tends to
adhere to simple forms, the bees on the Harmsworth coat of arms don't display a stinger. Does this mean the shown bees
are drones...?
tinyhuh
Wikipedia suggests: 'A drone is a male honey bee. Unlike the female worker bee, drones do not have stingers.
They gather neither nectar nor pollen and are unable to feed without assistance from worker bees.
A drone's only role is to mate with a maiden queen in nuptial flight.'

Since it's long been held that human society is like a bee colony, would one like to proclaim themselves via this form of
social-ranking art as one of a eusocial community, who's goal is to work for one idea that is shared amongst that group?
After all, the Wikipedia opinion hints at an individual or family who benefits from the toil of others and may even hold
a silent distain for those they see as 'beneath' them! But in art -as you allude to in your interest of stenography, sentiment
can be displayed without saying it aloud.

So, your link "The long history of the Daily Mail campaigning against the interests of working people" may have merit!
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When the lid came off the whole phone-hacking scandal of the British newspaper industry, Robert Maxwell was already
long dead. But the act of acquiring confidential personal information through malevolent means had been indicative of
newspaper behaviour during his time. (See the 1974 movie 'The Conversation' to see how the technology of private
communication could be easily accessed even back then!) I don't think we'll ever know the entire truth behind Maxwell's
activities during his lifetime in the information-purveying world. He had his fingers in all sorts of stuff... just look who
prints The Lancet!

The Daily Mail did take a mild hit of accusations during the hacking scandal, but it was Murdoch's News of The World
Sunday broadsheet that was eventually sacrificed to shut the Levinson Inquiry up.
tinywondering
Quote:Luv me some aristocrat insider scoops who you know play cover for the GCHQ spooks and their frens across the pond.

I'll look into it!!
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Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-07-2022, 11:27 AM)BIAD Wrote: ...Please Lucy, don't move the ball away this time?
tinywondering


Quote:EXCLUSIVE - He's NOT Lord Lucan: Home Office-approved facial recognition experts conclude British Buddhist,
87, living in Australia is NOT missing aristocrat who vanished after nanny was bludgeoned to death 48 years ago

*Lord Lucan vanished in 1974 after being accused of brutally murdering his family's nanny with a lead pipe
*An algorithm that a leading data scientist claims is 'never wrong' matched a man's photo to Lord Lucan
*However Home Office-approved facial recognition experts concluded that the match is not the missing Lord

'An elderly British Buddhist living in Australia is not the missing fugitive peer Lord Lucan, who disappeared in 1974
after murdering his family's nanny, facial recognition experts have told MailOnline.

The mystery of Lucan's whereabouts has intrigued detectives and the public for decades, and the latest claim that
he is a British expat aged 87 living in a commune near Brisbane stoked the rumour mill once again. The theory was
proposed by the nanny Sandra Rivett's surviving son, Neil Berriman, who tracked down the mystery pensioner in
Australia and was convinced he was the man who killed his mother nearly 50 years ago.

But now MailOnline has seen an analysis of the same man's photographs, compared with Lucan's, prepared by
a Home Office-approved team of facial recognition experts which definitively rules him out as Lucan. The news
lends extra weight to the man's categorical denials that he was Lucan, issued by his carers at a Buddhist retreat
in Brisbane.

[Image: 64282803-11399627-Dr_Shelina_Jilani_of_H...323560.jpg]
Dr Shelina Jilani of Home Office-approved Acumé Forensic based her conclusions on the large protruding
ears of Male A (right, 1 and 1a), which were not apparent on Lucan (left, 1 and 1a). She also noted the marked
differences in the width of the nasal bridge between the two men, with Lucan (left, 2) having a narrow one and
Male A (right, 2) having a wide one.

Lord Lucan, who is accused of murdering nanny Sandra Rivett with a lead pipe in the basement kitchen of his
Belgravia home, is believed to have died after evading authorities for years, and theories that he may be living
in Australia have previously been touted, then debunked.

After a computer expert appeared to confirm the man as Lucan, Mr Berriman told the Mirror today: 'I've spent
nine years trying to prove this man is Lord Lucan. Now, with this new scientific information, the police must act.
This isn't emotion. It's fact.'
But a new imagery report seen by MailOnline proves beyond doubt that the man was not Lucan.

It used detailed facial mapping techniques and was compiled by Dr Shelina Jilani of Home Office-approved
Acumé Forensic, based in Leeds, whose experts frequently testify in court cases. The experts were given a
series of photographs of Lucan and the man in Australia by journalists from MailOnline's sister organisation,
The Mail on Sunday. The man was identified only as 'Male A'.

Dr Jilani concluded: 'The photographs of Lord Lucan bear sufficient features to eliminate the person from the
reference images of Male A.' She based her conclusions primarily on marked differences in the width of the
nasal bridge between the two men, with Lucan having a narrow one and Male A having a wide one.
Another feature was the large protruding ears of Male A, which were not apparent on Lucan.

Dr Jilani added: 'Factoring age related changes to morphology, there are features which are not comparable
between [Lord Lucan] and Male A.' It is understood that the conclusions were passed on to Mr Berriman, but
he was unconvinced of the man's innocence and subsequently approached the Mirror with his claims.

When confronted about his identity, the 87-year-old's carers reportedly denied he was Lord Lucan...'
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-08-2022, 02:14 PM)BIAD Wrote: Dr Shelina Jilani of Home Office-approved Acumé Forensic based her conclusions on the large protruding
ears of Male A (right, 1 and 1a), which were not apparent on Lucan (left, 1 and 1a). She also noted the marked
differences in the width of the nasal bridge between the two men, with Lucan (left, 2) having a narrow one and
Male A (right, 2) having a wide one.

I was under the impression that a person's ears and nose are the facial features which continue to grow as one ages.

I wish the opposite wasn't true of my manh
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
(11-08-2022, 02:24 PM)Snarl Wrote:
(11-08-2022, 02:14 PM)BIAD Wrote: Dr Shelina Jilani of Home Office-approved Acumé Forensic based her conclusions on the large protruding
ears of Male A (right, 1 and 1a), which were not apparent on Lucan (left, 1 and 1a). She also noted the marked
differences in the width of the nasal bridge between the two men, with Lucan (left, 2) having a narrow one and
Male A (right, 2) having a wide one.

I was under the impression that a person's ears and nose are the facial features which continue to grow as one ages.

I wish the opposite wasn't true of my manh

Oh please stop using common sense!! This story had drama, eloquence, great table-manners and with the Great God
of Technology looking on, guaranteed the reader would understand that there's no mystery that today's science couldn't
solve. 'A.I, It's Your Friend'

In regards of your second concern, I hear yer'... My Missus often says... well, that's for another thread, maybe.
tinycrying
Edith Head Gives Good Wardrobe. 
(11-08-2022, 03:03 PM)BIAD Wrote: In regards of your second concern, I hear yer'... My Missus often says... well, that's for another thread, maybe.

heh heh ... I used to favor the saying, "Don't bite off more than you can chew." Not so much these days.
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!


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