Second Amendment Sanctuary Counties

[Mystic Wanderer]

IPOT updates us on the VA gun grab. Some of what he covers has already been added to this thread, but a reminder is good for those who may have missed it.
Also, in case you wonder why people have to slur or change their words, it's because You Tube will take their video down if certain words are used.  Isn't censorship wonderful? 

[Ninurta]

Interesting that IPOT could say "domestic terrorist" a few times and then had to start slurring it - how many times will YouTube allow you to say it before they yank the channel? Likewise "antifa" - several other channels use it plainly, and it's curious that YouTube would yank that one for using it. Makes one wonder what's special there...

The document on Israelis coming to VA in connection with "autonomous systems". They seem to be looking for workers to build their crap, but also "National and state agencies" to use it. Now, in Virginia, drones are illegal for state use against the citizenry. I know that because in late 2014 or early 2015, Russell County, VA bought a drone, and were then banned from flying it due to state laws, so it just kind of sat there. They were the only county in VA at the time who even owned a drone, but could not use it. Unless the laws have changed, that's still in effect. I doubt the laws have changed so far, but would not put it past the Socialists to run legislation through during this session to allow it.


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[Ninurta]

Live streaming of Monday's events in Richmond, VA are planned to be available on Open Carry Texas's Facebook page or YouTube channel, and also on C.J. Grisham's YouTube Channel. That's all I've got so far.

Link to C. J.'s YouTube Live Stream of the event


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[Mystic Wanderer]

Interesting that IPOT could say "domestic terrorist" a few times and then had to start slurring it - how many times will YouTube allow you to say it before they yank the channel? Likewise "antifa" - several other channels use it plainly, and it's curious that YouTube would yank that one for using it. Makes one wonder what's special there...

The document on Israelis coming to VA in connection with "autonomous systems". They seem to be looking for workers to build their crap, but also "National and state agencies" to use it. Now, in Virginia, drones are illegal for state use against the citizenry. I know that because in late 2014 or early 2015, Russell County, VA bought a drone, and were then banned from flying it due to state laws, so it just kind of sat there. They were the only county in VA at the time who even owned a drone, but could not use it. Unless the laws have changed, that's still in effect. I doubt the laws have changed so far, but would not put it past the Socialists to run legislation through during this session to allow it.


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I've noticed that certain channels don't take any precautions using certain words and they are never censored. I have also noticed others who do.  I think it depends who you are and how much truth you're spreading that they don't like.

 Here is one by Amazing Polly showing how this event tomorrow could be a setup for a false flag event. 

https://youtu.be/VDAD1CR5xdk

[Ninurta]

 Here is one by Amazing Polly showing how this event tomorrow could be a setup for a false flag event. 

While I have heard rumors that they are planning to jump off a "false flag" event with Socialist actors coming dressed as 2A supporters to behave badly, the more I think about it the less I'm convinced that they will do so. Why run the risk of doing something like that and getting caught red-handed when you can simply agitate the real deal enough to prevent them from thinking while they just react?

For about a month, now, I've seen out-of-state people jumping into local social media posts to try to ramp up an unreasoning response among the locals. Some are spewing racist rhetoric, and some are just spewing violent anti gun control rhetoric, but it appears to me all of them have the same goal - to cause unthinking reactions in people and provoke a violent response that will just feed itself as it goes, like a snowball rolling down a hill.

I've tried to combat that rhetoric, but have met with only very limited success.

Since Northam promulgated his edict to "disarm" folks on Capitol grounds, a great many have shifted to insisting they are going to be just OUTSIDE Capitol grounds so they can still be armed. The excuse they are using is that they are going to be there to "protect" the attendees... This is lunacy, IMO. As I've screamed over and over, no one needs a gun to merely talk to a legislator. If or when it comes time to arm up and throw down, they will have already squandered their chance by taking guns to a word fight.

What could possibly go wrong with a large group of unarmed people inside a concentration-camp style fenced in compound entirely surrounded by armed folk on high alert and balanced on a razor's edge, anticipating attack from several and sundry Socialist "militias", with those armed "defenders" in turn being surrounded by State-sponsored snipers and storm troopers? How the hell could that POSSIBLY go wrong?

It just looks to me like the Socialists have engineered a perfect storm here, and that Conservatives have swallowed the bait hook and all.

I hope I'm wrong, and all goes well.

I'm not holding my breath.

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[Mystic Wanderer]

Just got off from watching a live stream on RedPill78.  Right at the last of the show a woman called in who lives in VA and said she knows someone in Richmond that told her 7 buses had arrived carrying Antifa members. They had red MAGA hats and NRA posters. That was one group. Another group of Antifa will be posing as Dems and the two groups have plans to get into a (fake) fight with one another to make the MAGA pro 2A people look bad. Wonder if they will start shooting guns with blanks and have their buddies play dead?  FF anyone?

You can go check out the very last of the video and see what she said.

IT'S A SETUP!!!!!  


My anxiety levels are at an all time high.  Something bad is going to happen.  Pray for VA! 

Start at the 1:47:49 mark

https://youtu.be/J5q5Q08jVII?t=6469

[Mystic Wanderer]

They are using David Hogg to twist the narrative of what tomorrow's peaceful protest is about. 

He's a useful idiot!

Here's his post on Twitter:

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David Hogg text VOTE to 954-954

@davidhogg111
[url=https://twitter.com/davidhogg111]
VA is in a state of emergency because white supremacists and nazi’s are using their 2nd amendment rights to shutdown the 1st amendment rights of students, veterans, and clergy. Tweet out a video with your support for laws that protect kids, not guns with.   #IStandWithVirginia

Ugh!  

[Ninurta]

For tomorrow in Richmond -

1) The chain link fencing is some of the flimsiest I have ever seen. It's the kind that regularly gets pushed over by rowdy crowds - the "fence on feet" kind. Stay away from the fencing - you don't want to be one of the ones trapped UNDER it while crowds are trampling OVER it.

2) The FAA has declared airspace over Richmond "National Defense Airspace" until Lobby Day is over. That's curious, huh?

3) NO Democrat legislators will be on site to be met with, period. The ones pushing this madness are refusing to be present to discuss matters.  They're hiding under rocks that day, and making sure they are anywhere but THERE. Some have been reportedly moved to "safe houses" because they allege threats have been made against them.

4) VERY thorough searches will be conducted at the choke point. Magnetometers, wanding, visual inspections ("lift your pants legs, please") and pat downs. This also means you WILL be disarmed and vulnerable when the Socialists decide to attack folks exiting the choke point at the end of the rally. Security needs to have a heavy presence there, outside the choke point, to handle the unpleasantries and arrest the perpetrators. Just the choke point search personnel will not be enough to handle it.

5) Porta-potties will be OUTSIDE the fenced in perimeter - you will have to be searched after every time you need to pee, it seems, if you intend to return to the kill zone rally area.

That is what I KNOW so far. It would be prudent to assume that there will be snipers on rooftops and in upper windows to cover the crowd, as well as other unpleasantries in the wings just waiting for it to jump off - and everything is screaming at me that they INTEND TO FORCE a jump-off to get the ball rolling. Attendees should also expect cell service to be disrupted to prevent live feeds from getting out and the Socialists to lose control of the narrative. People should be prepared to video everything, but should ALSO be prepared to record video to a micro-SD chip that can be easily stashed in a clothing seam for the inevitable cell phone/ camera confiscations to follow. It would be a good idea to have a spare chip to replace the real one with - maybe fill it up with cat videos or something.

That's all for now.

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[Mystic Wanderer]

Saw this posted. Can't validate it's true, but thought I'd share, just in case.
I wouldn't put it past them!

[Ninurta]

Saw this posted. Can't validate it's true, but thought I'd share, just in case.
I wouldn't put it past them!

I cannae see an image, just a string of code.

[Ninurta]

Richmond Police radio broadcasts for Lobby Day:

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/31932

[Mystic Wanderer]

I don't understand why you can't see it. I see it just fine.  There's too much for me to type, but basically, it's just a bunch of laws they are going to be passing tomorrow while everyone is focused on the rally.

BAD laws!

[Mystic Wanderer]

Let me save it and then go back and share it that way.

[Ninurta]

SJ 29 was introduced by Amanda Chase, a conservative. her intent was to make the voting more "electoral college" like for the governor spot.

Personally, I think someone needs to introduce a new system for the Senate - one rep per county, elected by county vote. that would put the state senate into conformity with the US senate, where each state gets two reps regardless of population. Then the House would be elected by population and the Senate by area, just as the US legislative branch is set up. It would make it more equitable I think, and prevent them from doing dumbass things like what they are trying to do now. See, nothing that the rural areas can't live with would get past the Senate, and nothing the population couldn't live with would get past the house.

Seems fair to me... which is how I know it will never happen. The Socialists aren't interested in "fair", only in "control". It's a Socialist thing - citizens won't understand.


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[Wallfire]

i found this

Arms demonstration scares the United States

Published 20 January 2020 at 04.03
FOREIGN. Thousands of gun rights activists and militia members are expected to attend a demonstration
in Richmond, Virginia on Monday. The scared politicians have acted by announcing emergency permits
to prevent them being "stormed" by "armed militia groups".
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The annual event, organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League, usually attracts only a
few hundred gun enthusiasts. But this year, thousands of people from different groups around
the US are expected to show up.

The reason is that the Democratic Party has taken over the formerly highly conservative state
of Virginia and plans to impose a number of restrictions on the right to bear arms, guaranteed
by the US Constitution.

- We will not be silent anymore. We will fight them in the courts and on the street.
The illegal laws that they propose are simply unconstitutional, "Timothy Forster, a gun rights activist,
told the AP.

In American media, the manifesto is compared to Unite the Right, which was organized by alt-right
groups in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017. That time, violence erupted when large groups of
left-wing extremists attacked protesters after the governor declared a state of emergency and the
police declared the licensed march illegal.

According to the AP, the police are vacuuming the internet for the purpose of finding potential criminals
who may appear at Monday's manifesto in Richmond. Federal police arrested three men on Thursday
from the The Base organization, described by the AP as a "violent white power group," allegedly planning
to participate in the demonstration.

Virginia Governor Ralph Northam announced on Wednesday a temporary emergency permit banning
the possession of weapons at Capitol Square, where the demonstration will be held, to prevent "armed
militia groups storming our government building".

A fence has also been erected around the state government building.
A politician also states that he intends to flee to a safe place to stay there during the manifestation,
the AP writes.
Republican state senator Amanda Chase describes on Facebook the manifestation as a "trap" liked
by local politicians. By announcing emergency permits, the authorities can classify participants in the
demonstration as domestic terrorists.
The only thing required is that the participants wear some form of symbol that shows that they belong
to a militia group, warns Chase. 
 

Gun-rights activists gear up for show of force in Virginia
An unprecedented show of force by gun-rights activists is expected on Monday in Virginia

By
BY ALAN SUDERMAN and DENISE LAVOIE Associated Press

19 January 2020, 00:54
6 min read






These undated photos provided by Floyd County, Ga., Police show from left, Luke Austin Lane of Floyd County,
Jacob Kaderli of Dacula, and Michael Helterbrand of Dalton, Ga.

FBI spokesman Kevin Rowson said Friday, Jan 20, 2020, that agents assisted in the arrests of the three Georgia
men linked to The Base, a violent white supremacist group, on charges of conspiracy to commit murder and
participating in a criminal street gang.
Details of their cases have been sealed by a judge, Floyd County police Sgt. Chris Fincher said. (Floyd County
Police via APThe Associated Press

RICHMOND, Va. -- Police are scouring the internet for clues about plans for mayhem, workers are
putting up chain link holding pens around Virginia's picturesque Capitol Square, and one lawmaker
even plans to hide in a safe house in advance of what's expected to be an unprecedented show of
force by gun-rights activists.

What is provoking their anger in this once reliably conservative state is the new Democratic majority
leadership and its plans to enact a slew of gun restrictions. This clash of old and new has made
Virginia - determined to prevent a replay of the Charlottesville violence in 2017 - ground zero in the
nation's raging debate over gun control.

The Virginia Citizens Defense League's yearly rally at the Capitol typically draws just a few hundred gun
enthusiasts. This year, however, thousands of gun activists are expected to turn out.

Second Amendment groups have identified the state as a rallying point for the fight against what they
see as a national erosion of gun rights.

“We’re not going to be quiet anymore. We’re going to fight them in the courts and on the ground.
The illegal laws they’re proposing are just straight up unconstitutional,” said Timothy Forster, of
Chesterfield, Virginia, an NRA member who had one handgun strapped to his shoulder and another
tucked into his waistband as he stood outside a legislative office building earlier this week.

VCDL president Philip Van Cleave said he's heard from groups around the country that plan to send
members to Virginia, including the Nevada-based, far-right Oath Keepers, which has promised to
organize and train armed posses and militia.

Extremist groups have blanketed social media and online forums with ominous messages and hinted
at potential violence. The FBI said it arrested three men linked to a violent white supremacist group
Thursday who were planning to attend the rally in Richmond, according to a law enforcement official
who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an active investigation.

Democrats have permanently banned guns inside the Capitol, and Gov. Ralph Northam declared a
temporary state of emergency Wednesday that bans all weapons, including guns, from Capitol Square,
during the rally to prevent "armed militia groups storming our Capitol.”

Gun-rights groups asked the Virginia Supreme Court to rule Northam's declaration unconstitutional,
but the court on Friday upheld the ban.

Northam said there were credible threats of violence - like weaponized drones being deployed over Capitol
Square. On Friday, the FAA issued a temporary flight restriction, including for drones, over Capitol airspace
during the rally.

The governor said some of the rhetoric used by groups planning to attend Monday's rally is reminiscent
of that used ahead of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville in August 2017. One woman was killed
and more than 30 other people were hurt when a white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of counter
protesters there.

The Virginia State Police, the Virginia Capitol Police and the Richmond Police are all coordinating the
eventand have plans for a huge police presence at Monday's rally that will include both uniformed and
plainclothes officers.

Police plan to limit access to Capitol Square to only one entrance and have warned rally-goers that they
may have to wait hours to get past security screening.

Nonessential state staff were being told to stay away. Del. Lee Carter, a Democratic Socialist, said he’s
planning to spend Monday at an undisclosed location because of threats he has received.
“I ain’t interested in martyrdom,” Carter tweeted.

Northam lamented that such precautions were necessary for what's been a peaceful yearly event,
but said pro-gun activists have “unleashed something larger, something they may not be able to
control."

House Republican Leader Todd Gilbert said in a statement on Saturday that his caucus rejects any
attempt to “infuse any kind of twisted or extreme worldview into this fundamentally democratic
exercise.”

“While we and our Democratic colleagues may have differences, we are all Virginians and we we will
stand united in opposition to any threats of violence or civil unrest from any quarter," Gilbert said.

The pushback against proposed new gun restrictions began immediately after Democrats won majorities
in both the state Senate and House of Delegates in November. Much of the opposition has focused on a
proposed assault weapons ban, which would affect thousands of owners of the popular AR-15-style rifles.

One version of the bill, which Democrats later disavowed, would have required current owners of the
rifles to turn them in or face felony charges.

That bill was the spark that created the massive pushback, according to Sen. Creigh Deeds, one of the
few moderate Democrats left in Virginia who represents rural areas.
“That allowed people who like to inflame passions to say, ‘Look, they’re really coming after your guns,
they're coming after you,'” Deeds said.

Thousands of gun owners from around the state packed municipal meetings to urge local officials
to declare their communities “Second Amendment Sanctuaries” opposed to “unconstitutional" gun
restrictions like universal background checks.
More than 125 cities, towns and counties have approved sanctuary resolutions in Virginia.

Gun-control advocates, meanwhile, have also been flocking to Richmond to show their support for the
proposed legislation. More than 200 volunteers with Moms Demand Action held a rally on Jan. 6. Gun
control became a leading issue in the 2019 Virginia legislative elections after a city employee in Virginia
Beach opened fire on his co-workers in May, killing 12 and injuring four others.

Janet Woody, a retired librarian from Richmond and a Moms volunteer, said she believes the proposed
package of legislation can help reduce gun violence.
“I just feel so angry and helpless because of all these massacres," she said. “You can call your legislator
or write, but there comes a point where you just have to get out in the street."

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[Mystic Wanderer]

Breitbart News is covering the rally live in VA right now on You Tube.

[BIAD]

Breitbart News is covering the rally live in VA right now on You Tube.

The one thing that's paramount here is just as this gentleman s explaining.
The right to their Second Amendment protection.

[Mystic Wanderer]

You all have seen my references to Lisa Mei Crowley in my "Down the Rabbit Hole" thread.  She is one of my favorite posters on Twitter. This is her talking to Breitbart News.

[Ninurta]

The annual VCDL Lobby Day rally is over, with no incidents and no arrests. WaPo is crushed - they really expected better from us, I think. WaPo was forced to run a story that indicated thousands attended, and not a single one was arrested or caused an incident. To salve their wounded pride, they mentioned a WaPo "survey" in the article and insinuated that, despite the thousands in attendance saying otherwise, "Virginia still wants commonsense (notice how the Socialists have taken to running those two words together into one word?) gun safety laws" - the "poll" they cited was months old, from before the elections, and was designed to support gun control rather than provide any objectivity. In other words, like mot polls, it was gibberish - and they STLL had to mention one that was months old, due to the dearth of recent polls saying the same thing, even crookedly engineered ones.

Remember how EVERY poll predicted a "crushing loss" for Trump in 2016? Yeah. Polls. SMFH.

Most of the crowd was outside the kill zone rally area. There were, according to some reports, a crowd of about 6000 on Capitol grounds inside the fencing. Various estimates I've seen for the TOTAL attendance, including those outside the fencing, are running from 100,000 to 120,000, most of whom were armed and elected to stay outside the fence where they could retain their weapons. All those folks, armed, and NOT ONE incident or arrest.

When it became clear on Social Media that quite a large crew of the attendees were insisting that they were still going armed, the gun-grabbers started putting out frantic calls to their followers to stay away, because it was going to be just too dangerous to go on the attack. Some went anyhow, but seem to have been overawed by the sheer firepower, and behaved themselves accordingly. One group of 15 college students and one high schooler went in last night and spent the night INSIDE the Pocahontas building in the offices of two of the democrat delegates, never venturing forth into the crowd today - spent the whole day indoors where it was "safe".

Another group of 9 radical communists from Los Angeles came, preaching communist revolution in the streets. They were resoundingly ignored by the greater mass of folks there to see after their 2nd Amendment rights. Ever seen a yappy little ankle-biter dog furiously yapping at a big dog? You know, where the big dog raised his head, cocks an eye at the tiny dog, then lays his head back down in a studied effort to ignore the yapping? Yeah, it was kinda like that.

One odd sight was Antifa - Seven Hills marching along with the rest of the 2A "right wingers", in protest of the same laws. Apparently these proposals are not too popular among the Left, either, despite the "polls". Their contention is that they oppose anti-gun legislation because "marginalized groups" also have the right to defend themselves with firearms, a point I agree with. My rights do not dissolve any one else's rights, you know? If their rights have no value, then mine don't either. "Rights" are funny like that - they work for every one, or they work for no one.

I'm not sure the "live streams" were blocked by government, and I'm not sure they weren't - it could have been something as simple as that many people concentrated in one area, all with cell phones, overwhelming the towers and overloading them.

At the end of the rally, armed "right wingers" were witnessed, and photographed, cleaning up the area, policing up the trash and even peeling off errant "guns save lives" stickers from the sidewalks where some had landed when falling off of frozen clothing. Yeah, they cleaned up after themselves, which I have never heard of the Left doing after one of their rallies. It's a right-wing thing. Y'all Left-wingers wouldn't understand.

All in all, it was a resounding success, despite the disappointment in the "news" services. A strong message was delivered to anyone who cares to hear it. If it is ignored, and the legislation passes anyhow, well, then it's on to the next step. This was just notice that there are a LOT of Virginians willing to take that next step if it's made necessary. Imagine how many more there are who WEREN'T there...

Northam and Company - you have been warned. Your move now.

ETA: Police are estimating 22,000 attendees, and report one arrest out of them this evening.


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[Ninurta]

This one is for @"Mystic Wanderer" - it looks like even the "Space Brothers" were in attendance (keep in mind the FAA declared Richmond airspace as "National Defense Airspace", specifically banning drone flights as well):






And this was seen patrolling the streets as well: