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RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - DuckforcoveR - 10-03-2016 While I can respect the concept of not "naming names" in hopes of exacting some type of revenge, he said his "owner" in Seattle killed a child and made them eat it.... Name the damn names even if to give closure to a family who may have lost their child. I don't care that the owner isn't alive anymore, you ate a freakin kid who was sacrificed and NOW it's like "oh, I don't want to give details that may actually prove my story". RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - BIAD - 10-03-2016 (10-03-2016, 10:52 AM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: While I can respect the concept of not "naming names" in hopes of exacting some type of revenge, he said his "owner" in Seattle killed a child and made them eat it.... Exactly DFC, it's a story that catches the imagination and makes the listener gasp in it's terrible reveal. But there's no proof and when one is supposedly dealing with serious, adult claims of death, hidden secrets and the use of public funds, surely a request for evidence to these incidents would not be too demanding? Yet the person recording the interview never asks the questions that would derail the story from a person who lived among the stars and ate human flesh at someone's bidding. Does the interviewer press Mr. Rodrigues about these awful acts...? No. He asks him about going to the moon instead! Mr. Rodrigues wishes not to cause discomfort to the child-eating family and ill-treating military people from researchers and says his account is only in the name of disclosure. Yet, the loss of the supposed missing-children's family means nothing to him. This story belongs around a campfire. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - guohua - 10-03-2016 (10-03-2016, 10:43 AM)BIAD Wrote:Thank You For That Link, I've enjoyed reading it.(10-03-2016, 08:57 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ...Like Judy/James' story, it does not add up, has glaring contradictions of logic, and will no Very interesting! RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - BIAD - 10-03-2016 Part II. [video=youtube]http:/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-TTJizUQ34/[/video] I'm sorry, this is a play on 'the Starship Troopers' and 'Edge Of Tomorrow' movie scripts with a twist! It seems that we are fortunate that Mr. Rodrigues was the only survivor of his first suicide mission and the insectoid aliens that he encountered has he waited with his arm torn off, were more benevolent than the military he'd been dragooned into. One must assume the physical scars have healed completely. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-03-2016 Probably one reason I find this all so fascinating is because I've been looking for answers since I had an experience when I was 18 that involved a UFO... and I truly believe it was not from this world based on how it moved, and the fact that it caused the people around me to stop in time, but I was still aware of it. I've told this story on many occasions, so I won't repeat it again. They have some form of technology that actually "freezes" people in time while the "subject" they are interested in is still able to move and see that time around them has stopped. It's really hard to believe and even imagine that this is possible, but all I can tell you is, it happened to me, so I'm more open to hearing these "outlandish" stories that these people are telling, and not immediately calling them crazy without further investigation. If they have the tech to do to me what they did, why would they not have the tech to regress people back in time? I mean, it all involves "controlling time", and to me, it seems they have it down pat! They know how to manipulate Space/Time. It's beyond my understanding... something I still have a hard time grasping as a reality, but I know it's true. And I've spoken with others who have had the same experience with people turning into statues around them during a UFO sighting, so I'm not alone in that regard. If I hadn't had that experience, I would be doing the same as all of you and immediately dismissing this story and calling the people "nuts", but it did happen to me, so I'm left with wonder and still seeking answers. I'm not saying some of these people aren't lying, or just trying to make a buck, but I don't think all their story can be dismissed so easily, based on my own experience. Please, consider my position as I continue my journey to explore and seek understanding . You are coming along for the ride, whether you like it, or not. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - BIAD - 10-03-2016 (10-03-2016, 04:34 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: ... I'm not saying some of these people aren't lying, or just trying to make a buck, Don't get me wrong, Mystic, I'm aware that there'll always be those in it for the money and it's part of life. They have a right to try and turn a buck, but that doesn't mean I have to believe them at face-value. The 'switching off gravity' comments and how he was medicated so that he would never be ill again -even of cancer, smacks of someone who believes the listener is more interested in the aliens and off-world descriptions , rather than the nuts-and-bolts technology that is being supposedly kept from the tax payers. Also, the comment that the pilot of the Mars-bound ship said the shape of the moon construction was designed that way because it saved money... I mean, really?! I suppose one may feel a little secure that currency is still valued in space, even when it's the tax-payers' cash! I like the ride, but I demand a better thought-out scenery! RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-03-2016 I understand @"BIAD". If not for my own experience, I would think all of this was some kind of mind control that was injected into these peoples' brain, and I still question that at times. But then, I think about my own experience and I just have to look at it with a more open mind than others and file it away in "things that make you go, hmmm". RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - BIAD - 10-03-2016 (10-03-2016, 06:37 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I understand @"BIAD". I'll also bet a pound to a pinch of sh*t that there are agencies who train folk like this to make the public scoff at most things connected to Ufos, Bigfoot and other fringe areas. That's not me being condescending, I just genuinely believe it. But this below is condescending! RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-03-2016 (10-03-2016, 06:44 PM)BIAD Wrote:(10-03-2016, 06:37 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I understand @"BIAD". Ahh... thanks, @"BIAD". I shall save this one to use on my RN posts on FB. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Ninurta - 10-04-2016 (10-03-2016, 04:34 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Probably one reason I find this all so fascinating is because I've been looking for answers since I had an experience when I was 18 that involved a UFO... and I truly believe it was not from this world based on how it moved, and the fact that it caused the people around me to stop in time, but I was still aware of it. I've told this story on many occasions, so I won't repeat it again. I do not doubt your experience. It occurred because of the nature of time and space. That nature is very difficult to explain, and therefore hard to make anyone else understand. The problem is language - we don't have words for the concepts. I'll give it a try, but understand that the words I'm going to use convey at best an imperfect understanding of the concepts involved. A movie is made up of a series of still images. When these images are flashed sequentially before the human eye at a faster rate than the brain-eye system can process, they give the illusion of motion. Now, since the individual images are 2-D, the resulting motion picture is also 2-D. The world around us is solid - or gives the illusion of solidity, anyhow (matter is mostly nothingness, vacuum occupied by tiny energy charges whirling around one another that we call "atoms") - and in 3-D. Each "instant" is encoded as a 3 dimensional "tableaux", is immutable, and has a "phase", for lack of a better word. We perceive the change of "phase" as "the passage of time" - but time is not actually passing, space is changing phase rapidly enough to present the illusion of the passage of time to our sensory apparatus, just like a movie gives the illusion of motion in the picture. This presents several startling possibilities. One is that time travel is technically possible by matching phase to the earlier or later "time". Another is that neither the future nor the past can possibly be changed by a time traveler. They are "set in stone", and we are just along for the ride, whether traveling in our own "time" or another one. We could observe, possibly interact, but not change anything. The real nature of "space-time" has implications for ghosts and the like as well, and the ghosts people see could be from the past, or the future, or they may be actual spirits freed from the constraints of space-time. This is why, to spirit, time has no meaning. they are no longer tethered to a particular sequential "phase change". The thing that ties them to physical space during our lifetimes is the bond they have formed with the physical body, and we are more or less a slave to that journey until freed from the physical bond. In your experience, I believe that bond was temporarily broken, or at the very least strained to the point that you saw one "frame" of "time", but were not physically bound to the passage of time as we know it. The other people were not really "frozen", you were temporarily freed from that phase change. Now, getting into the notion that each instant spawns a multitude of other instants or "timelines" based upon decisions or events that instant is pregnant with gets even more complicated, so I'll not go there today... my brain already hurts, and I don't want it to explode. These folk could, therefore, not have been "regressed" in time. Changes would have had to have occurred, and either they would have been "missing" for their 20 year hitch OR the twenty years of memories they brought back would be of events that never happened, because they were not gone to experience them. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-04-2016 Quote:In your experience, I believe that bond was temporarily broken, or at the very least strained to the point that you saw one "frame" of "time", but were not physically bound to the passage of time as we know it. The other people were not really "frozen", you were temporarily freed from that phase change. LOL, Thanks @"Ninurta". I certainly don't want your brain to explode on such a lovely day. Okay, so... if I was only seeing one frame in time, why had 20 minutes passed in what only seemed like 2? That's what my watch showed had passed. I checked it just before the UFO showed up, and again after it left. I do understand your explanation, how you explained it. I just can't imagine that the people around me stayed in the position they were in for 20 minutes without realizing something weird had just happened to them. But, they carried on as if they weren't aware that anything different had just occurred around them once the UFO was gone. And I was in the middle of a busy town. How did the people on the street not notice what was happening? I'm sure you have heard of the Grandfather Paradox, right? Quote:The grandfather paradox is a type of Temporal Paradox. The name comes from the most famous variation, namely "what would happen if you traveled back in time and killed your own grandfather?" There was a show I watched recently where the host was telling about a man who wanted to test the Grandfather Paradox. Apparently this guy had knowledge of how to travel through time. So he went back in time and killed his grandfather to see what would happen. Two days after he returned to his present life, he was struck and killed by a bus. The point the narrator was making was that the universe fixes things along the timeline that gets messed up; it corrects itself. If his grandfather never lived long enough to father his father, then he could not exist, so he was struck and killed by the bus. So... if these people were taken from their timeline at a young age, then regressed back after 20 years so that nothing was changed in the timeline, it could continue as if nothing had happened because nothing was changed or messed up. The only thing different would be those who were taken could have the memories of the 20 years they served off world. Most don't remember until something triggers the memories, and it's usually empaths or people that are harder to 'mind wipe' than others. According to these people there are thousands that have been taken that still haven't remembered. My point is... even though my experience only involved 20 minutes with those around me being none the wiser, would it really matter how much time had passed for these people in the "20 and Back" program? Could they not have been "placed" back into the timeline from where they were taken without anyone around them noticing something had happened, just as the people around me were oblivious? Okay, now my brain hurts too. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-04-2016 (10-03-2016, 10:43 AM)BIAD Wrote:(10-03-2016, 08:57 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ...Like Judy/James' story, it does not add up, has glaring contradictions of logic, and will no I'm just now finding time to give your link a look. Sounds like something to read, for sure! I will read it with the same open mind that I do with other UFO stories, meaning if I see is as lies, as the book suggests, then it's lies. Thanks! RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Ninurta - 10-04-2016 The grandfather paradox is a mental exercise in impossibility, but it does serve to show why events in a timeline cannot be changed. Clearly, all of the present and future depend upon events of the past (equally true, but not as clear, is that the fact that the past also depends on events of the present and future). It's an attempt to explain the nature of space-time without having a clear understanding of that nature. It's an attempt to explain that nature from within the experiential framework of the perception of physically "passing through time", rather than from the realization that "time" passes through us instead. What "will be" will actually "not be" if it is prevented from being, therefore it never was. That is the gist of the grandfather paradox, and it is also why one cannot be temporally "regressed" back to a point where he or she never left from and have that leaving never occur - if it never occurred, it never happened, so that memories of it having happened are false memories - how can one recall something that never happened (or is not going to happen)? We call that "hallucination". Your watch is a physical artifact, so if time passed through it, then time passed everywhere during that interval. The "two minutes", on the other hand, are subjective to you, rather than objective to the universe. Subjective vs. objective is the basis for the saying "time flies when you're having fun" - it's your subjective perception of the passage of time rather than the passage of time itself, objectively, that is affected. You, as a physical being, must have experieicned the passage of the same amount of time as your watch, as a physical artifact. Any "gaps" in that time in your recall necessarily indicates time you can't remember, rather than time that never passed. I'm an example of that. I have gaps in my memory, times that I cannot recall. That doesn't mean time never passed, only that I can't recall it. the result of that, for me, is that at times I have flashes of memories of events that "never happened" - not that they objectively never happened, but that I have no conscious recall of those events except those fleeting flashes of "memory". . RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-04-2016 (10-04-2016, 05:13 PM)Ninurta Wrote:Quote:The grandfather paradox is a mental exercise in impossibility, but it does serve to show why events in a timeline cannot be changed. Clearly, all of the present and future depend upon events of the past (equally true, but not as clear, is that the fact that the past also depends on events of the present and future). It's an attempt to explain the nature of space-time without having a clear understanding of that nature. It's an attempt to explain that nature from within the experiential framework of the perception of physically "passing through time", rather than from the realization that "time" passes through us instead. RE: Another SSP Whistle-blower Comes Forward - Mystic Wanderer - 10-05-2016 Corey Goode goes into a discussion about time travel in this video around the 27:00 mark. |