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Wait 13 Hours to See a Doc
#1
WTF!  tinywhat
I have always heard from the Left that the Healthcare in Britain and Canada was the BEST.
Quote:Watch Nurse Tell Patients in British Emergency Room They Might Wait 13 Hours to See a Doc

You will need to watch the video at the Source

Quote:Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) has given the world plenty of examples showing why America should run from socialized medicine, such as soulless, bureaucratic decision-making and long wait times for planned procedures. Now, a shocking new video shows yet another reason: insufficient service for the community, resulting in waits of seven-and-a-half hours and up for emergency room visitors to see a doctor.

Wait and read what the British Health Secretary blames the cause on.  tinyok

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Quote:She tells the crowded room: “Our current wait time for a doctor is seven-and-a-half hours. I will estimate by the time I go home in the morning at 8 o’clock some of you will still be here waiting for a doctor because the waits will get up to 12 or 13 hours.
“There are currently no beds in the trust. We’re trying to make more space if we can but if people are admitted there’s a chance they’ll stay in A&E for the night.
“We will do our best to make you comfortable, we will do our best to look after you, but please don’t expect you will be going direct to a ward because that might not happen.”

Quote:The beleaguered nurse also requests that all relatives leave the A&E because they are “running out of space.”

Okay,,, now what for it!!!




Quote:When British Health Secretary Sajid Javid viewed the video, he remarked that it “wasn’t what anyone wanted to see.”
A few days earlier, in an appearance on the news show BBC Breakfast, Javid blamed lengthy wait times on COVID-19:


Quote:“Because of the impact of Covid … we know already from our NHS estimates, we think some 11 to 13 million people stayed away from the NHS because of the pandemic.
“Many of those people are coming forward, many of those to A&E, and we’re seeing very high levels of demand. That is a real challenge for the NHS across the system.”

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#2
Is that article telling the truth about the long wait for medical attention?
My husband said that in New York and other Larger cities here you have a lengthy wait also, but not 8 to 13 hours.
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#3
IMHO, when you hand out free anything, this is what happens. 

It would be difficult to build enough medical facilities and hire enough staff to handle everything. If government practice is any guide, they will undershoot every expectation. Less space, less, staff, less everything. 

To be fair, I have been in American emergency rooms with the same results. Wait forever. Although I have been in American emergency rooms and gone right in. I guess it depends on the condition of the patient. When care is free, every little thing is an emergency. 

I wonder how long they will be beating the dead Covid horse as the cause of all sins? Sounds like an easy job. When your agency is underperforming, simply blame external forces and get back to golf.
#4
Government anything seems to always be hurry up and wait; if it is available at all
#5
Man, 13 hour wait to see a doc in the ER? That is all kinds of messed up.

For my hubby’s recent trip to the ER and four days in the hospital, he got seen pretty quickly. By the time I got to the ER, he had been there about an hour before I was allowed to go in.We waited about another hour and a half before they got him into a room. The ER doc told me there five other people waiting to be admitted to a room and it would probably be several hours wait for those people. Hubby was in pretty bad shape when he got in, so he was the first one to get admitted to a room. The doc actually stated that it wasn’t so much covid for the wait times, as in our local area, there are nasty gastrointestinal things going around that are putting people in the hospital severely dehydrated. So I guess it depends. 

I’d advise anyone thinking of going to the ER, make sure it is seriously an emergency. Otherwise you may be cooling your heels in the ER for a lengthy wait. If you can drive yourself to the ER, it probably isn’t an emergency. When I had appendicitis, there was no way I was in any condition to drive, and an ambulance took me to the hospital. After they did an MRI and saw my appendix was close to rupturing within less than an hours I was in emergency surgery.
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(06-11-2022, 07:39 PM)guohua Wrote: Is that article telling the truth about the long wait for medical attention?
My husband said that in New York and other Larger cities here you have a lengthy wait also, but not 8 to 13 hours.

When I bring my patients into the ER for emergency treatment or medication, because my patients are trauma patients, and most often the police are involved, my patients are seen as a priority. Even as a priority I have had times that I have had to wait six to eight hours, before my patients were allotted a bed, and even longer before they were seen, this was long before COVID ever was known to exist.

There are a ton of reasons for why an ER can become overwhelmed, overloaded, or understaffed.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#7
(06-12-2022, 02:21 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-11-2022, 07:39 PM)guohua Wrote: Is that article telling the truth about the long wait for medical attention?
My husband said that in New York and other Larger cities here you have a lengthy wait also, but not 8 to 13 hours.

When I bring my patients into the ER for emergency treatment or medication, because my patients are trauma patients, and most often the police are involved, my patients are seen as a priority. Even as a priority I have had times that I have had to wait six to eight hours, before my patients were allotted a bed, and even longer before they were seen, this was long before COVID ever was known to exist.

There are a ton of reasons for why an ER can become overwhelmed, overloaded, or understaffed.

WoW!
No Trauma Patient should have to wait that long.
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(06-12-2022, 02:33 AM)guohua Wrote:
(06-12-2022, 02:21 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(06-11-2022, 07:39 PM)guohua Wrote: Is that article telling the truth about the long wait for medical attention?
My husband said that in New York and other Larger cities here you have a lengthy wait also, but not 8 to 13 hours.

When I bring my patients into the ER for emergency treatment or medication, because my patients are trauma patients, and most often the police are involved, my patients are seen as a priority. Even as a priority I have had times that I have had to wait six to eight hours, before my patients were allotted a bed, and even longer before they were seen, this was long before COVID ever was known to exist.

There are a ton of reasons for why an ER can become overwhelmed, overloaded, or understaffed.

WoW!
No Trauma Patient should have to wait that long.

My patients are victims of intimate partner violence, domestic violence, sexual assault, human trafficking, and rape. It is not often that that have injuries severe enough to require emergency treatment. Most of my patients are seen in the ER to receive medications or prescriptions.

Due to the mental and psychological trauma that my patients have experienced, we try to expedite the ER experience.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#9
(06-12-2022, 01:52 AM)ChiefD Wrote: Man, 13 hour wait to see a doc in the ER? That is all kinds of messed up.

For my hubby’s recent trip to the ER and four days in the hospital, he got seen pretty quickly. By the time I got to the ER, he had been there about an hour before I was allowed to go in.We waited about another hour and a half before they got him into a room. The ER doc told me there five other people waiting to be admitted to a room and it would probably be several hours wait for those people. Hubby was in pretty bad shape when he got in, so he was the first one to get admitted to a room. The doc actually stated that it wasn’t so much covid for the wait times, as in our local area, there are nasty gastrointestinal things going around that are putting people in the hospital severely dehydrated. So I guess it depends. 

I’d advise anyone thinking of going to the ER, make sure it is seriously an emergency. Otherwise you may be cooling your heels in the ER for a lengthy wait. If you can drive yourself to the ER, it probably isn’t an emergency. When I had appendicitis, there was no way I was in any condition to drive, and an ambulance took me to the hospital. After they did an MRI and saw my appendix was close to rupturing within less than an hours I was in emergency surgery.

Yep a several hundred dollar ambulance ride gets you to the front of the Que.....usually
#10
(06-11-2022, 08:06 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: IMHO, when you hand out free anything, this is what happens. 

I still remember the USSR,  it was free everything, even the drugs. It can be done but globalist will not allow the stress free live again.
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#11
(06-12-2022, 12:33 PM)SimeonJ Wrote:
(06-11-2022, 08:06 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: IMHO, when you hand out free anything, this is what happens. 

I still remember the USSR,  it was free everything, even the drugs. It can be done but globalist will not allow the stress free live again.

I agree it can be done on the medical side. That's just a matter of $$$.

However, IMHO many Americans would visit the ER daily if it was free, clogging up the system. 

I could be wrong though. Maybe if they could see a doctor regularly or felt compelled enough for regular check-ups, that might be less than I would think.
#12
(06-11-2022, 07:39 PM)guohua Wrote: Is that article telling the truth about the long wait for medical attention?
My husband said that in New York and other Larger cities here you have a lengthy wait also, but not 8 to 13 hours.

Every now and then we get horror stories like this making headlines but I have to say that they are very much the exception and not the norm.

When I had to visit A&E I was seen by a triage nurse within 10-15minutes.
I then had about an half hour wait before I was seen by the correct medical professional.

My daughter recently had to go to A&E and she had about the same waiting time.

There are definitely failings in the NHS and numerous areas for improvement.

Many of the failings are down some good old fashioned piss poor management - I once applied for a job in the NHS for which I had many transferable skills and a skill set that would be have been perfect for the role.
I heard nothing in reply.
A cousin of mine who has a relatively senior position within a neighbouring health trust heard about my application through the family grapevine and phoned me up to tell me I had no chance of getting the job. She explained that managers are extremely reluctant to employ other managers from the private sector as they fear their approach; they tend to far more results driven.
There has also been serial underfunding from central government of the NHS by successive administrations and some rather dubious business practices.

The major concern I hear about is the length of wait for ambulances.
I could relate quite a few instances where I've known people wait hours for an ambulance from our local hospital literally just a couple of miles down the road.
There are several contributory reasons for this not least being the lack of trained ambulance drivers due to the very poor wages they are paid and the long and stressful hours they work.

I am under no illusions about the failings within the NHS but its not all bad, not by any stretch.
The NHS is a wonderful achievement.
It both could and should be better, people tend to only broadcast the bad aspects of it whilst all the good gets glossed over or ignored.


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