Epic Speech for.... I don't know.
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Epic Speech for.... I don't know.
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12-09-2021, 01:07 AM
I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one.
"No one grants me freedom. I am a free person." Makes me want to saddle up and go shoot at some Euro-Commies  
12-09-2021, 02:32 AM
Yes, Yes, Yes,,, When Ever Any Government or Politician claims to have YOUR Best Interest In His/Her Heart, RUN!
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
12-09-2021, 04:07 AM
(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. I could not have said it better myself. Wait.... I have said it myself. The exact same words, with the same amount of frustration, disgust, determination, and conviction. I have never been more comfortable and resolute with a decision in all my life. I guess when it comes to this, @Bally002 would say that I am suicidal. 
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. Yet I still post.  
12-09-2021, 08:44 AM
(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. Yeeh that lady is good, i agree with her . Sadly American politicians are now with this communist utopia plan , which includes also killing own citicens and is clapping hands about what is happening in Australia for example, so clearly there is zero desire to "protect freedom and democracy" 
12-09-2021, 11:33 AM
(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. No, definitely not mate. My wife and I got vaxxed only to save our son's life. (Melanoma - required for hospital)) If we die. We'll die as Guinea pigs. Same as our youngest - son. He is only 19. Being vaxxed or otherwise meant nothing to us until this Covid issue came along. But maybe I'm thinking too deep into this reply. I'm not sure your of your meaning here. ("I guess when it comes to this, @Bally002 would say that I am suicidal.") I won't criticize. Please give me your tack on this comment so I can get it into context. Kind regards as always, Bally:) 
12-09-2021, 11:46 AM
Quote: so clearly there is zero desire to "protect freedom and democracy" That, like charity, starts at home. The USA won't do much for anyone until we get our own house in order. But then, for internal political regulation and social "management", the people in each country should take care of that themselves. Biggest problem is too many in the West have gotten addicted to comforts and can't imagine fighting so that institutions grant them some grudging respect. The second biggest problem is that most of those who might be able organize popular resistance have been co-opted by big money. Thus, individuals resent what is happening but see no chance to alter the outcome. Cheers ![[Image: 14sigsepia.jpg]](https://i.ibb.co/9yxWwxj/14sigsepia.jpg) Location: The lost world, Elsewhen
12-09-2021, 12:13 PM
(12-09-2021, 08:44 AM)Kenzo Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. No desire among politicians, anyhow. The thing is, in order to take your freedom away, they have to come to you to cart it off. They can't take YOUR freedom by subjugating Beijing, Los Angeles, or New York, unless you are living in Beijing, Los Angeles, or New York. They have to come to YOU to take it. That is where their plan falls apart in some areas. Some folks will just not stand still while you take away their everything. .
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
12-09-2021, 02:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-09-2021, 02:36 PM by NightskyeB4Dawn.
Edit Reason: Sent to early. Before my morning coffee.
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(12-09-2021, 11:33 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. My bad. I was speaking tongue in cheek. It was meant as a poke and a joke. Another one of my wry jokes that gets lost in the translation, and there just wasn't the right emoji around when I needed it. By the way, how is Girlie and the rest of family? Placing you and your family on my Bible Study's prayer list. Nothing but love for my RN family.
For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. Yet I still post.
12-09-2021, 06:03 PM
(12-09-2021, 11:33 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. If I understand correctly, your son needed medical help? He would not be seen unless the parents are jabbed?
12-09-2021, 06:04 PM
(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. There is a certain freedom which comes from a hard decision made. Especially when you know you are doing the right thing.
12-09-2021, 06:17 PM
(12-09-2021, 06:03 PM)ABNARTY Wrote:(12-09-2021, 11:33 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. That is the way I understood it also. You do what you have to do to keep your family safe. 
Once A Rogue, Always A Rogue!
12-09-2021, 07:42 PM
(12-09-2021, 11:46 AM)F2d5thCav Wrote:Quote: so clearly there is zero desire to "protect freedom and democracy" Situation look like big mess :  it`s true people are used to comforts , and others like money more than fixing society.
12-09-2021, 07:48 PM
(12-09-2021, 12:13 PM)Ninurta Wrote:(12-09-2021, 08:44 AM)Kenzo Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. Society and people has become sick and stubid. This all give me headache 
12-09-2021, 08:01 PM
(12-09-2021, 02:28 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 11:33 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. Cheers mate. Like I said, I may read too deep and misinterpret things. Might be as I'm home this week while wife and the young fella are south. Girlie is great. Thanks for asking. She's always first to greet us at the end of the driveway. Other dogs/cats/chickens all going well. Just a lot of storms and rain happening but property dams are full so it's a blessing. My regards, I am just going through a sensitive phase perhaps and see things from the wrong angle. Bally:) (12-09-2021, 06:03 PM)ABNARTY Wrote:No sorry, not like that at all. They would have seen 'him' regardless. Bit complicated but in order to receive his specialist treatment we have to travel regularly to the Melanoma clinic, Nth Sydney. (7.5 hrs away). Its the best one or he would most certainly pass away. Requires overnighting. Sometimes my wife is there for days to a week. When I was not vaxxed I couldn't stay, same with my wife.(12-09-2021, 11:33 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. The sons lung collapsed during initial treatment up here so flying was out of the question. Hence we make up a bed for him in the back of the car and do the old to and fro driving. He's not well so we want to be with him without complications. Otherwise where I live life is normal and the needle isn't required. (No covid cases in my bush shire). I don't expect many people to understand our reasons and no-one twisted our arms to get the vax. We did it to hold our sons hand. He's a good lad, doesn't touch alcohol, no drugs, smoking or the like. Lives here at home when not in hospitals. My regards, Bally:)
12-09-2021, 08:33 PM
(12-09-2021, 06:17 PM)guohua Wrote:(12-09-2021, 06:03 PM)ABNARTY Wrote:(12-09-2021, 11:33 AM)Bally002 Wrote:(12-09-2021, 04:07 AM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:(12-09-2021, 01:07 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: I'm not from the EU so I'm not sure who she is. But I agree with her on this one. Thanks, please read my reply above. I find it difficult to put this into perspective. Perhaps when this is all over I can write better. P.S In the interim I have to travel 3.5 hrs north to the Queensland border to receive my treatment and surgery and keep my job going in between. Not looking for sympathy just understanding. All the best, Bally:) (12-09-2021, 08:33 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Thanks, please read my reply above. I find it difficult to put this into perspective. Perhaps when this is all over I can write better. P.S In the interim I have to travel 3.5 hrs north to the Queensland border to receive my treatment and surgery and keep my job going in between. I understand your reasoning, given the political climate over there. I also, to a lesser extent, understand the reasoning of most of my family who have gotten the jab - most of them did it to keep their jobs. Now most of the "mandates" that forced them into the jab are being struck down, but in the moment, they felt as if it was what they had to do, so I understand that. In the final analysis, we are all grown ass adults, and will all do what we think best for ourselves and our families in the moment, and there is no blame or fault attached to that. Take it, don't take it - doesn't matter. it is none of our places to make that decision for anyone else. They will do what they need to do for their own circumstances. My next younger sister, for example, was forced into it, and none too happy about that. She still does contract work for the federal government, and got caught in that mandate. Now, after she got jabbed, the courts have stricken that mandate down, and again she is rather incensed about it - it was only in place long enough to force her into the jab. My youngest sister, the nurse, got caught in the "health care worker mandate", even though she had already had the covids. She's none too happy about that, either. The doctor who jabbed her actually told her "you know your natural immunity is about 18% more effective than this vaccine, right?" and all she could say was "I know, but, mandate". My mom and her husband both got the jab in their 80's, both of them also after having had the covid - her to maintain her job, him to support her. Both have had nothing but trouble out of the jab. He was actually hospitalized afterwards with blood clots inimical to his pre-existent heart condition. It damn near killed him, but he's soldiering onwards. The only reason he survived is because of that heart condition - they monitor him more closely for such heart-related problems than they do, for instance, 18 year old athletes. My middle sister, I dunno. She has probably had the jab, being a Leftist and all, but may not have because she has some peculiar auto-immune conditions that may advise against it, so I don't know if she has or not. I've not pried, and she's not told, and that's really the way it should be regarding medical stuff. None of my business. My older brother is a lot like me, but meaner. I'm reasonably certain he will not get the jab either, and will likely leave bodies laying if anyone tries to force it on him. His route through life dragged him through the US Marine Corps, and you know those boys are pretty good shots, and pretty grouchy in their old age. But in the end, we all do what we feel the need to do, for whatever reason. You had your reasons for getting it, and I cannot fault them - they were YOUR reasons, factoring into YOUR decision, not mine, none of my business. Likewise, my decision has been against getting the vax to the point that if they try, I am quite sure there will be broken bones and bite marks involved before they git 'er done. I have my own reasons for that, and I would hope folks could accept my decision as mine as well as I can accept that their decision is theirs. .
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
12-10-2021, 10:15 AM
(12-09-2021, 09:45 PM)Ninurta Wrote:[quote pid='74015' dateline='1639082716'](12-09-2021, 08:33 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Thanks, please read my reply above. I find it difficult to put this into perspective. Perhaps when this is all over I can write better. P.S In the interim I have to travel 3.5 hrs north to the Queensland border to receive my treatment and surgery and keep my job going in between. 0-//;0p00or that, and I would hope folks could accept my decision as mine as well as I can accept that their decision is theirs. . [/quote] Then why am I getting these questions and emoji doubts. I'm sure I explained it another thread. I didn't expect this. Let me put it simply in point form. 1/. To take my son south to save his life initially happened in the cusp of a state state statute change. I am not in control of that. The people in their electorate decided it. No so in my electorate. 2/. To have my son treated I was required to drive south. To obtain accommodation for him and my wife they were required by the law there and me too, to enter and stay in accommodation. 3/. We complied "TO SAVE MY SON'S LIFE AT THE BEST MELONOMA CLINIC IN THE COUNTRY IF NOT THE WORLD" 4/. I couldn't care less in my shire where it is not required. We are never required to vaccinate. but there, down south,,,, pause and think, it was required, vax, to stay there and enter accommodation, shops etc. My wife and son couldn't give a rats arse about vaccination. But, pause and think happies, If,,,I and true love...didn't...vaccinate....my son...will...die...early. 5/. You guys, what in the flamin hell to question my needs to save my son's life and put those thoughtful and disconcerting emoji's in the narrative. Same goes for true love. If I have to jump through hoops to save him I will...... 6/. I have tumors, need surgery next week, and if I am required to have the necessary requirements I will. I want my son to outlive me and be happy in the mind I have done everything to accomplish that and ensure True Love and he is comfortable. If that causes doubt amongst you lot then I will apologise now. I'm sorry I cannot synchronize words here on Rogue to ensure my sincerity. My goodness. All I did was get vaccinated. Someone else put a doubting/thinking emoji up. That will make me smile. Kind regards, Bally
12-10-2021, 10:47 AM
(12-10-2021, 10:15 AM)Bally002 Wrote: Then why am I getting these questions and emoji doubts. I'm sure I explained it another thread. I didn't expect this. I don't know why. I thought I made it clear that whatever is right for you in your situation regarding vaccination is ok by me. Perhaps I was not clear enough. If I was not, then I apologize. I have a different situation than you. What is right for me may not be right for you, and vice versa. Either way, all of our decisions are ours alone. No one else gets to pass judgement on our decisions, because they are not living our lives. .
Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.
Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’
12-10-2021, 11:43 AM
(12-10-2021, 10:47 AM)Ninurta Wrote:It's hard to respond. Believe it or not I am corresponding very calmly and always have. So don't take it the wrong way.(12-10-2021, 10:15 AM)Bally002 Wrote: Then why am I getting these questions and emoji doubts. I'm sure I explained it another thread. I didn't expect this. You did make it clear in your narrative about my situation. There is no need to apologize. Perhaps I didn't or haven't made it clearer in my narratives for people to understand. For that I apologize. I am doubt that the veracity of what I put out there sincerely upon this site is trusted and/or respected. I am not a bullshit artist. I understand that getting vaccinated is an emotional topic. But I am not going to get my wife, self and son sleep in a car on the street (parking max 2 hrs) while he goes and gets treated by himself. I also have a job to which I worked 10 hrs today and much the same yesterday. My boss and colleagues are unvaccinated. I don't care. But if I don't do my job I face the sack not because of the vac but because I am constantly away south or north. They don't care and can replace me. I could go on but I have a long journey south and return tonight (Friday). I am tired and look forward to completing the round trip and having a sleep. I have a true mate looking after my shift tomorrow. He knows what we are going through, doesn't need the money but will take care of business for me. (I am just a dunny cleaner and rubbish man). There's a true mate...no questions or suspicions. .................. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Bally |
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