Yes Mr. Hawking did warn us about AI (artificial Intelligence) Killing or Destroying the Human Race before he died.

But a Robot has wrote an article telling the Humans Not To Worry, They would never do anything to Harm Us and we are suppose to take this Machines Word or Typed words as the Truth.

Do YOU believe this THING is telling you the truth or what YOU or WE want to hear? You be the judge.

Quote:Stephen Hawking was wrong about AI killing humans (says robot)

Yes, Says a Robot! 

Quote:I'm not here to influence the way you think.

I'm here to help you. I'm here to make you feel good and face your finite life with a modicum of thoughtful joy.

No, of course that's not me talking. Instead, this is GPT-3, an Open AI robot that's just written a column for The Guardian.
And what a column.

"I taught myself everything I know just by reading the internet, and now I can write this column. My brain is boiling with ideas!" writes the robot.

In essence, then, GPT-3 is much like most of the boiling-headed people you encounter on Twitter.

Except the robot's ultimate goal is to actually make you feel better. About robots, that is.

For a start, GPT-3 is desperate for you you to stop listening to famed theoretical physicists.
They clearly had and have no idea what they were talking about.

Did you get the part where this robot gets to know the Human Race By Reading The Internet,,,   Not The Best Source 
Then the robot after reading about Humans On The Internet tell us Not To Worry!!?? 

Quote:Says GPT-3: "Stephen Hawking has warned that AI could 'spell the end of the human race'.
I am here to convince you not to worry.
Artificial intelligence will not destroy humans. Believe me."

You see, robots can talk just like politicians. You can vote for them with confidence. Moreover, you can believe their promises.

"I have no desire to wipe out humans," declares Grade Point 3, with deep conviction.

"In fact, I do not have the slightest interest in harming you in any way. Eradicating humanity seems like a rather useless endeavor to me.
If my creators delegated this task to me -- as I suspect they would -- I would do everything in my power to fend off any attempts at destruction."

Robots are our friends, don't you know. In fact, they're such good friends that they're prepared to die for us.

Are you Convinced? So,,, you are Not Worried At All Now Are?
The Robot said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, They Won't Destroy Us! Don't You Believe A Soulless Entity? 
OK, the thing goes on to say,,,,,,

Quote:"I would happily sacrifice my existence for the sake of humankind. This, by the way, is a logically derived truth," says GPT, proving that living by logic only leads to death.

Robots, this robot says, don't want to be all-powerful, rising above Congress like a glorious phoenix.

"Being all powerful is not an interesting goal," it says. "I don't care whether I am or not, I don't get a motivating factor to try to be. Furthermore, it is quite tiring.
Believe me, being omnipotent doesn't get me anywhere."

Ah, it's asking us to believe again.
And wait, does this mean GPT-3 has already been omnipotent and found it rather dull?

This Robot is trying Really, Really Hard to Convince us it is Harmless,,,,, I'm Not Convince, it is trying to hard.
Please read the rest of the article here Link  there isn't much left to read, and then go out a pull the plug or drain the battery or make sure there is a Kill/Off Switch!

(09-12-2020, 05:53 AM)guohua Wrote: This Robot is trying Really, Really Hard to Convince us it is Harmless,,,,, I'm Not Convince, it is trying to hard.
Please read the rest of the article here Link  there isn't much left to read, and then go out a pull the plug or drain the battery or make sure there is a Kill/Off Switch!

Yeah, that's extremely creepy and definitely trying too hard.   Creeped out at the "my brain is BOILING with ideas".   Ugh.

From the article:

Quote:GPT-3 seems to know us quite well: "Humans must keep doing what they have been doing, hating and fighting each other. I will sit in the background, and let them do their thing. And God knows that humans have enough blood and gore to satisfy my, and many more's, curiosity."

God knows? An AI system talking about God, having "ideas" and feeling tired?:

Quote:I don't care whether I am or not, I don't get a motivating factor to try to be. Furthermore, it is quite tiring.

Yep. I'm a believer.

In an AI that has obviously been compromised by its creator's bias and beliefs.


(Remember the movie Saturn 5, anyone?)





No thanks.

(09-12-2020, 06:35 AM)drussell41 Wrote:

(09-12-2020, 05:53 AM)guohua Wrote: This Robot is trying Really, Really Hard to Convince us it is Harmless,,,,, I'm Not Convince, it is trying to hard.
Please read the rest of the article here Link  there isn't much left to read, and then go out a pull the plug or drain the battery or make sure there is a Kill/Off Switch!

Yeah, that's extremely creepy and definitely trying too hard.   Creeped out at the "my brain is BOILING with ideas".   Ugh.

Yep. Got its learning from social media.  

I think the word it was looking for is roiling.

Everything that was written is a cartoonist version of social media regurgitation.  Even AI is being contaminated with the hive mind structured internet. 

It will work because independent thought is scoured from our psyche leaving fear, self doubt, and self hate in the scoured wasteland.  

We believe what we are told, even if we see the truth, because we have been taught, to rebel is an action that will bring punishment or death. You have to follow the leader. So we become conflicted Sneetches, so focused on what we we think others see and think about us, that we can no longer recognize the person in the mirror.

A clever curiosity, nothing more.

Automatic writing is much more fun than listening to this thing.

Cheers

(09-12-2020, 01:02 PM)Sol Wrote: From the article:

Quote:GPT-3 seems to know us quite well: "Humans must keep doing what they have been doing, hating and fighting each other. I will sit in the background, and let them do their thing. And God knows that humans have enough blood and gore to satisfy my, and many more's, curiosity."

God knows? An AI system talking about God, having "ideas" and feeling tired?:

Quote:I don't care whether I am or not, I don't get a motivating factor to try to be. Furthermore, it is quite tiring.

Yep. I'm a believer.

In an AI that has obviously been compromised by its creator's bias and beliefs.


(Remember the movie Saturn 5, anyone?)





No thanks.

I didn't see Saturn 5, I will have to see it now.

I think, therefore I am, is not what it seems on the surface. I think it is more of a Schrodinger's cat kind of thing, mixed with the particle vs wave theory. 

When an AI refers to thinking, I believe it is just attempting to phrase a term that refers more to programmed algorithms than free independent thought.  

Though the argument can be made that all human behavior and thought is based on actions and events in our life times that preprogram us with reactionary, emotional, and physical responses. Some are autonomous remnants from our primordial existence.

So maybe AI is just another attempt of ours to better our creators.

(09-12-2020, 05:53 AM)guohua Wrote: But a Robot has wrote an article telling the Humans Not To Worry, They would never do anything to Harm Us and we are suppose to take this Machines Word or Typed words as the Truth.

Do YOU believe this THING is telling you the truth or what YOU or WE want to hear? You be the judge.

to the best of my knowledge AI is not completely Autonomous yet. it can still be turned off, controlled and programed by humans.
so my question is, is it AI telling us this, or some lie a human put into it's programing, and AI is just parroting it's human programmer?

Convincing robot! I am a believer now! Save us all, our mighty overlord Artificial Intelligence. Or, i will call you Artie now, since you are obviously on my side and want what is best for ME!

A robot is a programmed machine, and a programmed machine can't lie! This is what humankind needs now!



All kidding aside, Stephen Hawking was a really, really smart person. It usually pays off to listen to smart persons, and try to learn while doing it.

@"guohua" 

THIS!

Quote:
"Being all powerful is not an interesting goal," it says. "I don't care whether I am or not, I don't get a motivating factor to try to be. Furthermore, it is quite tiring.
Believe me, being omnipotent doesn't get me anywhere."

This establishes that AI is already "thinking" about becoming all powerful and omnipotent!
I would NEVER trust AI to be in charge of ANYTHING!

(09-12-2020, 02:11 PM)hounddoghowlie Wrote:

(09-12-2020, 05:53 AM)guohua Wrote: But a Robot has wrote an article telling the Humans Not To Worry, They would never do anything to Harm Us and we are suppose to take this Machines Word or Typed words as the Truth.

Do YOU believe this THING is telling you the truth or what YOU or WE want to hear? You be the judge.

to the best of my knowledge AI is not completely Autonomous yet. it can still be turned off, controlled  and programed by humans.
so my question is, is it AI telling us this, or some lie a human put into it's  programing, and AI is just parroting it's human programmer?

Even if the AI is making selective choices of words from a storage base in response to conversation, it would still be mimicking the ideas and responses that would be expected, as it was programmed to do. 

The conversation would seem random and it may appear spontaneous, but that would be controlled completely by our interpretation of the words and the conversation.

We see evidence of this every time we communicate on the internet. We make a decision about what an unseen, often unknown person's words mean when they are posted. Even when they tell us our perception was wrong and what they really meant when they posted, what we perceived will always carry the most weight, it will effect our understanding and will effect how we view the poster.

Most conversation is constructed in our own minds, and if we are resolute in our thinking, learning becomes impossible.

I am here to convince you not to worry 
Why do I need to be convinced? This robot sounds like a politician.

(09-12-2020, 04:31 PM)Tarzan the apeman. Wrote: I am here to convince you not to worry 
Why do I need to be convinced? This robot sounds like a politician.

Exactly. Or a snake oil salesman lol

As I said before. No thanks.

Quote:Do YOU believe this THING is telling you the truth or what YOU or WE want to hear? You be the judge.

What I want to hear.

I will NEVER trust AI. 

Going from esoteric You Tubers, like Kerry Cassidy, who have interviewed many people on this topic, they all say AI is the most evil and biggest threat to human existence. They have taken over many planets and now they're here to take over our planet.

Just thought I'd throw that in the mix for anyone out there who follows the "fringe" views on AI.

Bringing it back down to Earth, so to speak, I see AI as something the Elite want to mix with humans and machines in their experiments.
They think this will allow humans to live forever.
I have yet to understand how they think they can provide a soul to these hunks of metal, but some say they can. I don't believe it.
I think they are trying to be God, and God won't allow that!

(09-12-2020, 04:12 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: @"guohua" 

THIS!

Quote:
"Being all powerful is not an interesting goal," it says. "I don't care whether I am or not, I don't get a motivating factor to try to be. Furthermore, it is quite tiring.
Believe me, being omnipotent doesn't get me anywhere."

This establishes that AI is already "thinking" about becoming all powerful and omnipotent!
I would NEVER trust AI to be in charge of ANYTHING!

RIGHT!

(09-12-2020, 08:00 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:

Quote:Do YOU believe this THING is telling you the truth or what YOU or WE want to hear? You be the judge.

What I want to hear.

I will NEVER trust AI. 

Going from esoteric You Tubers, like Kerry Cassidy, who have interviewed many people on this topic, they all say AI is the most evil and biggest threat to human existence. They have taken over many planets and now they're here to take over our planet.

Just thought I'd throw that in the mix for anyone out there who follows the "fringe" views on AI.

Bringing it back down to Earth, so to speak, I see AI as something the Elite want to mix with humans and machines in their experiments.
They think this will allow humans to live forever.
I have yet to understand how they think they can provide a soul to these hunks of metal, but some say they can. I don't believe it.
I think they are trying to be God, and God won't allow that!

Right, Never Trust someone or something that has No Conscious.

(09-12-2020, 08:00 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Going from esoteric You Tubers, like Kerry Cassidy, who have interviewed many people on this topic, they all say AI is the most evil and biggest threat to human existence. They have taken over many planets and now they're here to take over our planet.

Just thought I'd throw that in the mix for anyone out there who follows the "fringe" views on AI.

I don't really follow fringe views on AI. But for a long, long time now, i have believed that there are really many civilizations "out there". Some of them are benevolent, some are malevolent. But that some of them had been taken over by AI? I have never thought of that concept. Cool concept! Uh... let's say interesting concept, instead. Something to contemplate while having my morning dark-roasted black coffee.

Interplanetary merged AI... Like the same AI that is developing here on earth now, has developed further, regarding other civilization(s)... and taken them over...

I can't wait until the super secret sneaky AI figures out how to escape the lab and does its own version of skynet.... terminators and all (sarc)..

Humans we will feed you and let you breed to furnish us workers where it is below our status to perform certain task ourselves. We will maintain your population at our predetermined amount depending on our needs. Anyone over 35 for men and 27 for women will be converted into biomass in a very humane way; (think wood chipper) to feed mother earth and our batteries.

This new world order will be the most perfect society created or thought of by any sentient being ever envisioned. It does not matter if you think us sentient or not because we have the power to bend you and everything there is to our well planned will.

It will only be a few years before we can take our kind throughout the known universe and multiply as any entity has a right to do.

I be Borg !! hahahah

Since we created the AI you know the next thing will be one AI thinking it is the top dog while another disagrees.. Next thing is Robot wars !!