(07-11-2020, 09:11 PM)guohua Wrote: Just to add this,

Quote:Reports Surface That Chelsea Clinton and Ghislaine Maxwell Were Such 'Close Friends' They Vacationed Together

WoW, you think so?

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Quote:[url=https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/21/jeffrey-epstein-trump-clinton-1424120]Politico’s report on Maxwell, 57, focuses on how the daughter of the late British publishing mogul Robert Maxwell helped Epstein, the Brooklyn-born son of a New York City parks groundskeeper, gain access to social circles that allowed him to become friendly with two U.S. presidents, billionaire business moguls, America’s media elite and at least one member of the British royal family.

Maxwell has not been criminally charged, but has settled two lawsuits filed by women who say she participated in Epstein’s alleged sex trafficking, the New York Times reported last week. She has denied any wrongdoing.

Politico said Maxwell first grew close to the Clinton family after former president Bill Clinton left office, and eventually became friends with Chelsea Clinton, vice chair of the Clinton Foundation. According to the news outlet, the two women vacationed together on a yacht in 2009, and Maxwell attended Chelsea’s wedding to Marc Mezvinsky in 2010, Politico reported. A photo of Maxwell at the wedding has circulated online.

Maxwell also participated in the Clinton Foundation’s Clinton Global Initiative as recently as 2013, through The TerraMar Project, an oceanic non-profit she founded, according to the Initiative’s website.  The contacts between Chelsea Clinton and Maxwell appear to have occurred after Maxwell’s name first emerged in accounts of Epstein’s alleged sexual abuse.
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The fact that Maxwell is still breathing must make it very uncomfortable for Bill to sleep at night without having little spouts of spasms...

Same would go for Prince Andrew..

Oh, and a plane load of others..

Yet, she wants out, scared of covid. Go figure..

Quote:The Telegraph understands that authorities are looking into the alleged role played by Ms Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, and Nadia Marcinkova in Epstein’s sex trafficking ring and eyeing possible charges.

The women have been accused of being his “recruiters, groomers, sexual partners and friends,” an organised network of underlings who reportedly received huge salaries and perks in return. They accuse Ms Kellen of running a “rolodex” of women and girls that she would arrange to visit Epstein wherever he was.

Sarah Kellen's name showed up 350 times on Jeffrey's flight log between 2001 and 2006. Epstein's victims say she is Ms Maxwell’s “lieutenant”.

Looks like Maxwell could have been the keystone in the network of sex trafficking. I wonder how long it will take to dismantle this evil world-wide ring, or if it ever WILL be entirely dismantled?
At least we're getting the big fish and cutting off their money supply. One child's life is worth it.

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(07-12-2020, 05:28 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:

Quote:The Telegraph understands that authorities are looking into the alleged role played by Ms Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, and Nadia Marcinkova in Epstein’s sex trafficking ring and eyeing possible charges.

The women have been accused of being his “recruiters, groomers, sexual partners and friends,” an organised network of underlings who reportedly received huge salaries and perks in return. They accuse Ms Kellen of running a “rolodex” of women and girls that she would arrange to visit Epstein wherever he was.

Sarah Kellen's name showed up 350 times on Jeffrey's flight log between 2001 and 2006. Epstein's victims say she is Ms Maxwell’s “lieutenant”.

Looks like Maxwell could have been the keystone in the network of sex trafficking. I wonder how long it will take to dismantle this evil world-wide ring, or if it ever WILL be entirely dismantled?
At least we're getting the big fish and cutting off their money supply. One child's life is worth it.

Read More

I've been going back and forth with this a lot.  I keep thinking, how can soooooo many people higher up in society be involved in this.  If there are that many sick people, more will just take their place.  

I wish there was a cut and dry way of telling who abuses kids, and into the ocean they go.

Quote:I keep thinking, how can soooooo many people higher up in society be involved in this.

I heard a bit of wisdom from an Arab long ago.  He said the rich have no allegiance to any country, they are a country unto themselves.

Over the years, the events have made me often recall his words.

Cheers

(07-12-2020, 07:10 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote:

Quote:I keep thinking, how can soooooo many people higher up in society be involved in this.

I heard a bit of wisdom from an Arab long ago.  He said the rich have no allegiance to any country, they are a country unto themselves.

Over the years, the events have made me often recall his words.

Cheers

Wise words.  Why else would wealthy American business owners send our jobs overseas?  It does no good for anyone but themselves.

Welp good old ghislaine apparently had ex British military guarding her at the time of her arrest, and apparently wrapped her phone in aluminum foil to avoid detection...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washing...utType=amp


The article states she was born in France, which doesn't extradite it's citizens.  Why was she still here?

(07-14-2020, 12:36 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: Welp good old ghislaine apparently had ex British military guarding her at the time of her arrest, and apparently wrapped her phone in aluminum foil to avoid detection...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washing...utType=amp


The article states she was born in France, which doesn't extradite it's citizens.  Why was she still here?

Wrapping her cell phone in tin foil works, well sort of. 
The tin foil has to be think and wrapped tightly covering the entire phone.
Then, she couldn't use it, so why not just turn off the tracker and pull the battery, throw it in the ocean. 

The child trafficking charges were not just in America although it seems America cares more about Pedophiles and the trafficking of children than France Does (JMHO).
But even in France with her knowledge I don't think her life would have been worth much, she could have been kidnaped by the CIA and brought to America to stand trial, what would the French Government do? Whine and Cry and Throw Pastries? POTUS would have told Emmanuel Macron to go Stand In The Corner With His Nose Against the Wall.

Or while she lived in France and went out and Flaunted her "You can't Touch Me" status, with everything she knew of the Child Trafficking Organization and all the Powerful Pedophiles in the word, she wouldn't have lasted a year alive.

I think she knew all this and made a deal.
So, I don't Upset any French Members, this is Just Our Humble Opinion.

Liz Crokin shares what she discovered about Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's relationship. Liz used to be a reporter for a big time news paper, but she left. I forget why.
Listen and understand so you can put your accusations to rest. 

(07-14-2020, 01:35 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: Liz Crokin shares what she discovered about Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's relationship. Liz used to be a reporter for a big time news paper, but she left. I forget why.
Listen and understand so you can put your accusations to rest. 

And,,, Still the Never Trumpers Won't Believe her.

(07-14-2020, 01:34 AM)guohua Wrote:

(07-14-2020, 12:36 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote: Welp good old ghislaine apparently had ex British military guarding her at the time of her arrest, and apparently wrapped her phone in aluminum foil to avoid detection...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washing...utType=amp


The article states she was born in France, which doesn't extradite it's citizens.  Why was she still here?

Wrapping her cell phone in tin foil works, well sort of. 
The tin foil has to be think and wrapped tightly covering the entire phone.
Then, she couldn't use it, so why not just turn off the tracker and pull the battery, throw it in the ocean. 

The child trafficking charges were not just in America although it seems America cares more about Pedophiles and the trafficking of children than France Does (JMHO).
But even in France with her knowledge I don't think her life would have been worth much, she could have been kidnaped by the CIA and brought to America to stand trial, what would the French Government do? Whine and Cry and Throw Pastries? POTUS would have told Emmanuel Macron to go Stand In The Corner With His Nose Against the Wall.

Or while she lived in France and went out and Flaunted her "You can't Touch Me" status, with everything she knew of the Child Trafficking Organization and all the Powerful Pedophiles in the word, she wouldn't have lasted a year alive.

I think she knew all this and made a deal.
So, I don't Upset any French Members, this is Just Our Humble Opinion.

I am French and very offended!



Just kidding.  I'm not French.

@"Schmoe1" 
 

Quote:Just kidding.  I'm not French.

 
Thank God!

I already upset a member by me reply in a thread, they became offended when I said nothing more than what we had witnessed.
But of-course it was offensive to their entire Race or Tribe.
Just don't know who is Immature and who isn't.
Sorry for the Rant.

(07-14-2020, 02:04 AM)guohua Wrote: @"Schmoe1" 
 

Quote:Just kidding.  I'm not French.

 
Thank God!

I already upset a member by me reply in a thread, they became offended when I said nothing more than what we had witnessed.
But of-course it was offensive to their entire Race or Tribe.
Just don't know who is Immature and who isn't.
Sorry for the Rant.

Meh, some people are ultra sensitive with their race, it's hit or miss.  Me personally, I'm an Irish Italian mutt, I laugh my ass off at Irish and Italian jokes.  Stereotypes became stereotypes for a reason right?

(07-14-2020, 02:18 AM)Schmoe1 Wrote:

(07-14-2020, 02:04 AM)guohua Wrote: @"Schmoe1" 
 

Quote:Just kidding.  I'm not French.

 
Thank God!

I already upset a member by me reply in a thread, they became offended when I said nothing more than what we had witnessed.
But of-course it was offensive to their entire Race or Tribe.
Just don't know who is Immature and who isn't.
Sorry for the Rant.

Meh, some people are ultra sensitive with their race, it's hit or miss.  Me personally, I'm an Irish Italian mutt, I laugh my ass off at Irish and Italian jokes.  Stereotypes became stereotypes for a reason right?

Right!

What do you think?
Will Judge Alison Nathan let Ghislaine Maxwell out on bail because of their fear of COVID?
Judge Alison Nathan is an Obama appointed Judge.
 Is she grants Bail, who do you think donated the largest sum of money to her overseas account,,,, the Clintons?

(07-14-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote: What do you think?
Will Judge Alison Nathan let Ghislaine Maxwell out on bail because of their fear of COVID?
Judge Alison Nathan is an Obama appointed Judge.
 Is she grants Bail, who do you think donated the largest sum of money to her overseas account,,,, the Clintons?

Crikey, is that a judge or 'Yogurt's stunt double' from 'Space Balls'

Just askin.  Face looks familiar.

Bally

Yes, Be ahead of the Curve,  get it now!
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(07-14-2020, 03:44 AM)Bally002 Wrote:

(07-14-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote: What do you think?
Will Judge Alison Nathan let Ghislaine Maxwell out on bail because of their fear of COVID?
Judge Alison Nathan is an Obama appointed Judge.
 Is she grants Bail, who do you think donated the largest sum of money to her overseas account,,,, the Clintons?

Crikey, is that a judge or 'Yogurt's stunt double' from 'Space Balls'

Just askin.  Face looks familiar.

Bally

Hell, I think she's got more of a Rick Moranis thing going on 

(07-14-2020, 03:29 AM)guohua Wrote: What do you think?
Will Judge Alison Nathan let Ghislaine Maxwell out on bail because of their fear of COVID?
Judge Alison Nathan is an Obama appointed Judge.
 Is she grants Bail, who do you think donated the largest sum of money to her overseas account,,,, the Clintons?

Ghislaine Maxwell arraignment, initial conference, and bail hearing is today, July 14, 2020, at 1:00 pm (EDT).

Listen to live audio feed of the proceeding by calling 855-268-7844 and using access code 32091812# and PIN 9921299#. https://justice.gov/usao-sdny/unit

OMG,   I am Shocked! 
An Obama Appointed Judge did the right thing! 

Quote:Ghislaine Maxwell denied bail: Judge determines Epstein cohort is 'substantial flight risk' because of wealth, 'foreign connections'

A Judge with a Brain or at least she or he (i can't tell from the pictures) didn't get the Memo / Email from the Chiltons 

Quote:Maxwell is charged with conspiracy and perjury in a multi-state sex trafficking ring involving three unnamed minors between 1994 and 1997.


She has pleaded not guilty to the charges against her. 

Her attorneys have tried to distance Maxwell's case from Epstein's, and argued the risks associated with COVID-19 in detention centers along with a $5 million bond should have been enough to secure her release.

They proposed Maxwell serve her pretrial detention in a luxury Manhattan hotel.
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Plead Not Guilty!! How long to you think that'll last with all the documentation they have and witnesses. 

Next,,,,,,in that News!
"Bill and I are beside ourselves to hear that Ghislaine Maxwell hung herself in her jail cell next month."

Go ahead ,,, Yes My friends be the first in Your Group of friends to ask the question, "Who Killed Ghislaine?"
  

(07-14-2020, 08:41 PM)guohua Wrote: OMG,   I am Shocked! 
An Obama Appointed Judge did the right thing! 

Quote:Ghislaine Maxwell denied bail: Judge determines Epstein cohort is 'substantial flight risk' because of wealth, 'foreign connections'

A Judge with a Brain or at least she or he (i can't tell from the pictures) didn't get the Memo / Email from the Chiltons 

Oh, that is great news!   I was so afraid the judge would release her, especially being an Obama appointed judge. 
I hope they take her to GITMO where it will be much safer from anyone getting to her.