(06-21-2020, 09:29 AM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 10:43 PM)guohua Wrote: I think we are more Liberal with our content and the why we encourage people to Post their Thoughts.
We have The VERY Best MODS of any site.
By The Way,,,,,ATS'ers need to check us out, we are not the complicated of a site to post on.
I think we are Fair and Welcoming. 
JMHO

Not sure I qualify as a refugee (yet) but I am having happier thoughts than I was yesterday.

You're no longer a refugee,,, Now you are part of the Rogue family.

(06-21-2020, 09:29 AM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 10:43 PM)guohua Wrote: I think we are more Liberal with our content and the why we encourage people to Post their Thoughts.
We have The VERY Best MODS of any site.
By The Way,,,,,ATS'ers need to check us out, we are not the complicated of a site to post on.
I think we are Fair and Welcoming. 
JMHO

Not sure I qualify as a refugee (yet) but I am having happier thoughts than I was yesterday.

Welcome aboard vet,
I just wish it was under happier circumstances.
I hope you enjoy looking around the place.
Give us a shout if you need anything.
G

(06-19-2020, 09:57 PM)Night Star Wrote: I missed you guys so much! HUGS!

I have to get re-oriented and learn how to post pics again and navigate the site. I'll need a new Shed. Not sure if I'll keep that particular name or not though. OH cool I got a pic in here. LOL

Hello NS,  just got here today.  Nice to see you on this site.

Kind regards,

Bally

(06-18-2020, 07:36 AM)727Sky Wrote: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1266591/pg1
What Comes Next

Soon, we will make some type of "this website for sale" indication. From there, we'll see what interest we get. Please trust me in that we will have high standards for any new owner.

Some dude beat me to it ...

The 'owners' are gonna try to milk it.  I can't believe the drama.  They're trying to come up with a million dollars ... and they don't even know what they're gonna get when they buy it.

I remember there was a guy once who seriously offered/tried to help ... just wanted to fix all the (obviously) broken code.  Trust me (I am qualified to make this call), the guy knew exactly what he was talking about.  What happened?  Ban hammer.  Like clockwork.

ATS is worth a-dime-and-a-food-stamp.  They're trying to buy a pig-in-a-poke.  And, I feel bad for them for that.

@"Snarl" The numbers they are throwing around are mind boggling. I can't understand the $25K a month for "running the site and upgrades needed". Seems excessive to me but I've never owned a website.

(06-21-2020, 05:30 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 07:36 AM)727Sky Wrote: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1266591/pg1
What Comes Next

Soon, we will make some type of "this website for sale" indication. From there, we'll see what interest we get. Please trust me in that we will have high standards for any new owner.

Some dude beat me to it ...

The 'owners' are gonna try to milk it.  I can't believe the drama.  They're trying to come up with a million dollars ... and they don't even know what they're gonna get when they buy it.

I remember there was a guy once who seriously offered/tried to help ... just wanted to fix all the (obviously) broken code.  Trust me (I am qualified to make this call), the guy knew exactly what he was talking about.  What happened?  Ban hammer.  Like clockwork.

ATS is worth a-dime-and-a-food-stamp.  They're trying to buy a pig-in-a-poke.  And, I feel bad for them for that.

I really hate to see that site go down. I have warm fuzzy feelings for it because it was the first board I ever got on. So many threads I made over there will now be gone into the cyber space graveyard; good threads too. And others from some great members that I had saved in my subs.
What a waste of great content! 

It's losing the content that disturbs me the most. I have my friends here.

(06-21-2020, 05:44 PM)FauxMulder Wrote: @"Snarl"   The numbers they are throwing around are mind boggling. I can't understand the $25K a month for "running the site and upgrades needed". Seems excessive to me but I've never owned a website.

Drugs and women are not cheep

(06-21-2020, 05:53 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Drugs and women are not cheep

Depends on the drugs........and the women.

(06-21-2020, 05:55 PM)FauxMulder Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 05:53 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Drugs and women are not cheep

Depends on the drugs........and the women.

I shall bow to your expertise on this matter 

(06-21-2020, 05:45 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I really hate to see that site go down. I have warm fuzzy feelings for it because it was the first board I ever got on. So many threads I made over there will now be gone into the cyber space graveyard; good threads too. And others from some great members that I had saved in my subs.
What a waste of great content! 

It's losing the content that disturbs me the most. I have my friends here.

I've been backing up like a madman. I've got all of my own threads backed up locally, and the Space Opera thread... but now I face the daunting task of backing up a thread with over 250 pages. Going by recent experience, I expect that to take 2 1/2 to 3 days. It's grueling, but needs to be done.

They've got 50 GB of thread data, plus around 3 TB of image data. A full site backup could be contained on a 4 TB portable hard drive that can be had at Walmart for just under 100 bucks, but the time investment to get the backup data is unreal. Someone with access to the back end over there could do it, but we've got no one like that here, so we do what we can, and grab what is ours before it goes kaput.

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Ok all jokes about drugs and women to one side, how the hell does it cost 25k a month to run the site. The only way I can see this amount been used is if staff is payed wages

(06-21-2020, 06:25 PM)Wallfire Wrote: Ok all jokes about drugs and women to one side, how the hell does it cost 25k a month to run the site. The only way I can see this amount been used is if staff is payed wages

It Doesn't here, but we are not as Large as they are and I don't have a fourth of their MODS or SUPERMODS.
Unless you have the site tied with Ad Companies and maybe Google.

I heard they were not happy about people using Ad-Blockers.

All I can say for sure is this. You don't need an Ad-Blocker to be a Rogue.
My Tech Guru (Sol) and I pay for Your Site.
I just wish Sol had more free time to visit us here, he is running his Own Business Now and has a Family, working 15 hour days 6 and sometimes 7 days a week.
I don't understand all the Back-End Stuff and @"gordi" does help A LOT! 
But there are two areas of what I call The Back-End and I have access to both, the Deepest Back-End gives me the most problems.
I have a hard time understanding it and when I translate to Mandarin Chinese it is even more confusing, Sorry.

I guess what I'm getting at is, My husband has to call Sol and he has to come by when he can, So I'm Sorry if there is ever any outages.
So far, we've been running Flawlessly!

Gees, I really Digress there didn't I.
Need another Drink 

(06-21-2020, 09:35 AM)guohua Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 09:29 AM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 10:43 PM)guohua Wrote: I think we are more Liberal with our content and the why we encourage people to Post their Thoughts.
We have The VERY Best MODS of any site.
By The Way,,,,,ATS'ers need to check us out, we are not the complicated of a site to post on.
I think we are Fair and Welcoming. 
JMHO

Not sure I qualify as a refugee (yet) but I am having happier thoughts than I was yesterday.

You're no longer a refugee,,, Now you are part of the Rogue family.

A 'Fresh Rogue' that doesn't have to worry about stepping on unseen landmines (violation detonations coming your way!)

(06-21-2020, 10:31 AM)gordi Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 09:29 AM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 10:43 PM)guohua Wrote: I think we are more Liberal with our content and the why we encourage people to Post their Thoughts.
We have The VERY Best MODS of any site.
By The Way,,,,,ATS'ers need to check us out, we are not the complicated of a site to post on.
I think we are Fair and Welcoming. 
JMHO

Not sure I qualify as a refugee (yet) but I am having happier thoughts than I was yesterday.

Welcome aboard vet,
I just wish it was under happier circumstances.
I hope you enjoy looking around the place.
Give us a shout if you need anything.
G 

Thank you for the kind words of encouragement in times of assessing potential fire damage. All that content (Alexandria relived).

(06-21-2020, 09:59 PM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 09:35 AM)guohua Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 09:29 AM)veteranhumanbeing Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 10:43 PM)guohua Wrote: I think we are more Liberal with our content and the why we encourage people to Post their Thoughts.
We have The VERY Best MODS of any site.
By The Way,,,,,ATS'ers need to check us out, we are not the complicated of a site to post on.
I think we are Fair and Welcoming. 
JMHO

Not sure I qualify as a refugee (yet) but I am having happier thoughts than I was yesterday.

You're no longer a refugee,,, Now you are part of the Rogue family.

A 'Fresh Rogue' that doesn't have to worry about stepping on unseen landmines (violation detonations coming your way!)

I don't foresee Violations Coming. 
We don't tolerate Pedophilia, unwanted sexual advances or Bad Mouthing Members or Other Sites and I don't think anyone here would do any of those things.
Yes it is just good old Common Sense and Open Mindedness. 
Besides, You're Just To Sweet Of A Human Being 

(06-21-2020, 05:30 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 07:36 AM)727Sky Wrote: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1266591/pg1
What Comes Next

Soon, we will make some type of "this website for sale" indication. From there, we'll see what interest we get. Please trust me in that we will have high standards for any new owner.

Some dude beat me to it ...

The 'owners' are gonna try to milk it.  I can't believe the drama.  They're trying to come up with a million dollars ... and they don't even know what they're gonna get when they buy it.

I remember there was a guy once who seriously offered/tried to help ... just wanted to fix all the (obviously) broken code.  Trust me (I am qualified to make this call), the guy knew exactly what he was talking about.  What happened?  Ban hammer.  Like clockwork.

ATS is worth a-dime-and-a-food-stamp.  They're trying to buy a pig-in-a-poke.  And, I feel bad for them for that.

Not gonna lie, I know nothing of Owning and running a site, but when I was reading that post/thread my BS detector started going, just as it did when people were suckered into donations a few years ago. I know people who donated quite a lot, and I just couldn't quite believe it. I love the place, pretty much grew up there, but sometimes things just seem off, and I don't get peoples reactions to it.

(06-21-2020, 10:16 PM)Moonmagic Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 05:30 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 07:36 AM)727Sky Wrote: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1266591/pg1
What Comes Next

Soon, we will make some type of "this website for sale" indication. From there, we'll see what interest we get. Please trust me in that we will have high standards for any new owner.

Some dude beat me to it ...

The 'owners' are gonna try to milk it.  I can't believe the drama.  They're trying to come up with a million dollars ... and they don't even know what they're gonna get when they buy it.

I remember there was a guy once who seriously offered/tried to help ... just wanted to fix all the (obviously) broken code.  Trust me (I am qualified to make this call), the guy knew exactly what he was talking about.  What happened?  Ban hammer.  Like clockwork.

ATS is worth a-dime-and-a-food-stamp.  They're trying to buy a pig-in-a-poke.  And, I feel bad for them for that.

Not gonna lie, I know nothing of Owning and running a site, but when I was reading that post/thread my BS detector started going, just as it did when people were suckered into donations a few years ago. I know people who donated quite a lot, and I just couldn't quite believe it. I love the place, pretty much grew up there, but sometimes things just seem off, and I don't get peoples reactions to it.

I nor any of my Friends here as Admin's or Mod's or Super-Mod's will ask for Donations, we do have a donate button at the bottom of the first page, but to be Honest, I don't know if it works 

My Tech Guru Sol and myself (if he needs help) take care of the expenses and it's not that bad.

(06-18-2020, 11:05 PM)Chiefsmom Wrote: I know I haven't posted here much, but I do still slink around.   I may, or may not have PM'd a few nice people over there with a link to this website.  I hate to see ATS go down, but it sure seems like the owners just don't care anymore.

And yeah, you all have been very welcoming.  

I have gone pretty much into lurking phase myself, but every once in a while I too get triggered, and have to come forth and say my piece. It is purely an egotistical act on my part, because I learned a long time ago that nobody wants to hear what you have to say, if it is not something they already agree with.

I joined ATS because I am one of those people that just cannot accept something that I can't make sense out of. My close friends and family call me an information junkie. ATS helped me find truth and it helped me see things through the eyes of others. I love ATS and I will likely continue to visit until there is a no more, but I am very careful about what and where I post. I agree it is not the same ATS, but nothing stays the same.

ATS is not alone with this shift in the paradigm. I dumped all the social media sites, and only participate in now three forums. When things get nasty and civil discourse turns into hateful dialogue, when the only intent is lunge and riposte, when it is just about making your point without any attempt at trying to understand, I retreat.

Thank you Chiefsmom.

(06-21-2020, 10:31 PM)guohua Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 10:16 PM)Moonmagic Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 05:30 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 07:36 AM)727Sky Wrote: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1266591/pg1
What Comes Next

Soon, we will make some type of "this website for sale" indication. From there, we'll see what interest we get. Please trust me in that we will have high standards for any new owner.

Some dude beat me to it ...

The 'owners' are gonna try to milk it.  I can't believe the drama.  They're trying to come up with a million dollars ... and they don't even know what they're gonna get when they buy it.

I remember there was a guy once who seriously offered/tried to help ... just wanted to fix all the (obviously) broken code.  Trust me (I am qualified to make this call), the guy knew exactly what he was talking about.  What happened?  Ban hammer.  Like clockwork.

ATS is worth a-dime-and-a-food-stamp.  They're trying to buy a pig-in-a-poke.  And, I feel bad for them for that.

Not gonna lie, I know nothing of Owning and running a site, but when I was reading that post/thread my BS detector started going, just as it did when people were suckered into donations a few years ago. I know people who donated quite a lot, and I just couldn't quite believe it. I love the place, pretty much grew up there, but sometimes things just seem off, and I don't get peoples reactions to it.

I nor any of my Friends here as Admin's or Mod's or Super-Mod's will ask for Donations, we do have a donate button at the bottom of the first page, but to be Honest, I don't know if it works 

My Tech Guru Sol and myself (if he needs help) take care of the expenses and it's not that bad.

I'm not against donations at all, I used to donate to a Music site I visited years ago! It was just the way in which it happened and peoples reactions that took me back a bit at the time.
I could be overthinking it, which is a trait of mine, and I know zero about running a site, so pinch of salt and all that!

This place feels very homely, same as ATS always has, probably a bit more relaxed here, which I like a lot!  

(06-21-2020, 10:41 PM)Moonmagic Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 10:31 PM)guohua Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 10:16 PM)Moonmagic Wrote:

(06-21-2020, 05:30 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(06-18-2020, 07:36 AM)727Sky Wrote: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1266591/pg1
What Comes Next

Soon, we will make some type of "this website for sale" indication. From there, we'll see what interest we get. Please trust me in that we will have high standards for any new owner.

Some dude beat me to it ...

The 'owners' are gonna try to milk it.  I can't believe the drama.  They're trying to come up with a million dollars ... and they don't even know what they're gonna get when they buy it.

I remember there was a guy once who seriously offered/tried to help ... just wanted to fix all the (obviously) broken code.  Trust me (I am qualified to make this call), the guy knew exactly what he was talking about.  What happened?  Ban hammer.  Like clockwork.

ATS is worth a-dime-and-a-food-stamp.  They're trying to buy a pig-in-a-poke.  And, I feel bad for them for that.

Not gonna lie, I know nothing of Owning and running a site, but when I was reading that post/thread my BS detector started going, just as it did when people were suckered into donations a few years ago. I know people who donated quite a lot, and I just couldn't quite believe it. I love the place, pretty much grew up there, but sometimes things just seem off, and I don't get peoples reactions to it.

I nor any of my Friends here as Admin's or Mod's or Super-Mod's will ask for Donations, we do have a donate button at the bottom of the first page, but to be Honest, I don't know if it works 

My Tech Guru Sol and myself (if he needs help) take care of the expenses and it's not that bad.

I'm not against donations at all, I used to donate to a Music site I visited years ago! It was just the way in which it happened and peoples reactions that took me back a bit at the time.
I could be overthinking it, which is a trait of mine, and I know zero about running a site, so pinch of salt and all that!

This place feels very homely, same as ATS always has, probably a bit more relaxed here, which I like a lot!  

@"Moonmagic" 
The reason this site was started was for a place people could get away and feel like they were among Family and Just relax and Say WHAT ever was on their mind and Know that No One Here would Judge Them and more often than not, they found Very like Minded People and People Who Cared.

There is NO demand to post here, we make NO monies Off the Content of your post by how many Views it had or how many people Hit That "Like" button.

Your time here is For YOU to feel Comfortable and Safe with your Thoughts.

That is My Goal and the Goal of My Admin's, Super-Mod's and Mod's.
Just remember, I'm always here somewhere Watching.