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Policy differences between Trump & Biden
#41
(08-21-2020, 10:00 AM)MarioOnTheFly Wrote: I have to say guys..I'm a bit weirded out by you equating the two candidates. While you dont have to like Trump, if anything is made clear in these 4 years, is that Trump is fighting the establishment as much as possible. I include GOP in that establishment too. He's been attacked, derided, ridiculed, conspired against, and all he's trying to do is to deliver on the promises that got him elected. The other candidate is...well...getting a free pass and promoted by the same establishment, despite awful record, despite being obviously mentally ill.

I have a question. Since you stated it...what is Trump's agenda ?

There are no two sides. That is an illusion they use to make us believe that we have a real choice.

Elections are dog and pony shows they rig to keep the illusion alive. 

I don't see Trump as fighting the establishment. I see the social media using everything he says or tweets to keep the people fighting each other and distracted from the real problems we face. Again they control all that we see and hear. 

Very few people will tell you they are in a better situation today than they were four years ago, and it is not because of a virus. The pandemic is just a curtain being used to hide the truth of what is really going on and it doesn't start and stop in America. 

You think I am anti Trump. Trump is not the problem. I don't like him, but I don't like any of the characters they have selected for playing the game. But that is the way the game is played. They give you a stock set of avatars, you may be able to tweek a few of the characteristics to make the character more pleasing to you, and to fit your image of what the game character should look like, but in the end, you are still playing their game, and it is still the characters created by the game.

I don't choose sides and my only loyalty is to God, family, community and country. I have never asked anyone what political party they support. Personally, I don't want to know. I don't judge people by the letter they have on their voter's registration card. I also don't give them a pass when it is used as an excuse for criminal, inappropriate,  or rude behavior.

Our problems will not be eradicated after the election. We will just keep playing along until we get to the next mini boss in the game. Rinse and repeat and forget.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#42
(08-21-2020, 01:02 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: Trump is not the problem. I don't like him, but I don't like any of the characters they have selected for playing the game.

It really comes right down to this:

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... and which Americans want other Americans to keep getting ripped off by payroll taxes.
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
#43
(08-21-2020, 01:02 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(08-21-2020, 10:00 AM)MarioOnTheFly Wrote: I have to say guys..I'm a bit weirded out by you equating the two candidates. While you dont have to like Trump, if anything is made clear in these 4 years, is that Trump is fighting the establishment as much as possible. I include GOP in that establishment too. He's been attacked, derided, ridiculed, conspired against, and all he's trying to do is to deliver on the promises that got him elected. The other candidate is...well...getting a free pass and promoted by the same establishment, despite awful record, despite being obviously mentally ill.

I have a question. Since you stated it...what is Trump's agenda ?

There are no two sides. That is an illusion they use to make us believe that we have a real choice.

Elections are dog and pony shows they rig to keep the illusion alive. 

I don't see Trump as fighting the establishment. I see the social media using everything he says or tweets to keep the people fighting each other and distracted from the real problems we face. Again they control all that we see and hear. 

Very few people will tell you they are in a better situation today than they were four years ago, and it is not because of a virus. The pandemic is just a curtain being used to hide the truth of what is really going on and it doesn't start and stop in America. 

You think I am anti Trump. Trump is not the problem. I don't like him, but I don't like any of the characters they have selected for playing the game. But that is the way the game is played. They give you a stock set of avatars, you may be able to tweek a few of the characteristics to make the character more pleasing to you, and to fit your image of what the game character should look like, but in the end, you are still playing their game, and it is still the characters created by the game.

I don't choose sides and my only loyalty is to God, family, community and country. I have never asked anyone what political party they support. Personally, I don't want to know. I don't judge people by the letter they have on their voter's registration card. I also don't give them a pass when it is used as an excuse for criminal, inappropriate,  or rude behavior.

Our problems will not be eradicated after the election. We will just keep playing along until we get to the next mini boss in the game. Rinse and repeat and forget.

You know...back before 2016 I was totally apolitical. Couldnt care less who won elections, who led countries, or what was their political program. Back then, and maybe even today, I thought this was smart. Back when it was easy to ignore everthing bc, If you lived some years, you've come to understand, nothing really changes for you, no matter the winner. I used to laugh at people who were taking it seriously.

But things have changed today. I see evil that is rising in US. I know this evil will take time, but will eventually reach my shores and it will land in my front yard. And I have become a father in the mean time. The shit is real now. It will be real for my daughter. 

These 4 years of Trump presidency really opened my eyes to deep state corruption, the media lies and bias, the venom of social media like twitter and FB who openly refuse to ban pedophiles but are banning a president of the US. People smashing and looting US cities demanding white people kneel and apologize for breathing. Democratic party intentionally fueling all this just to spite Trump. I dont know if it was always this way in America, but once I've seen it...I'm in the state of shock. The entire machine has been mobilized just to take him out. It's on their lips all day long. Funnily, I happen to agree with much of what he has done. From withdrawing from a green new deal, to exiting WHO, to standing up to China, and standing up for the return of manufacturing to your country. These are just some of the things I'd wish politicians in my country would have the balls to do. But none of them do. We are slaves to the EU machine now and will do their bidding. If they tell us to self destruct...we will do that bc we need their money.

Even if you're right about "game" parallel, it's time to take a stand, because...staying on a side will just not be enough anymore. Praying to God also, will not do anything, bc, I'm sure you know, people that die daily...pray to God. Poor people, hungry, disabled...a lot of them pray...It doesnt help. 

Anyway...I respect your non interference game (bc I used to do that too), but sometimes..it takes balls to take a stand for something other than your own well being.

I think there are 2 sides...one is Trump, the other is GOP+DNC+Deep state. He is alone against these psychopaths. He didnt need this. He was liiving a wonderful life of a rich man, and was well liked world wide. Had status, had influence, money, power...way more power than he has now. He did it all, risked it all and is still standing against the machine. He looks as a man who truly loves his country and wants to save it. 

He is sometimes clumsy in rhetoric, but sometimes sharp and often very truthful. He doesnt do political double talk, and with him at least...what you see is what you get.  Check out the videos from 20-30 years ago. The man is consistent as Jesus Christ. He wasnt saying one thing and then doing another. I respect him for it. 

Anyway, thank you for your opinion. There is some truth in it...but I dont think Trump is a part of that runaround you mention.
#44
A distinction should be made.

I don't vote for whom I side with the most.

I vote for whom sides with me the most.

I vote for whom will infringe on me the least.

I vote for whom will side the Constitution the most.

I will vote for whom values freedom, independence, self-reliance, the most.
"I be ridin' they be hatin'."
-Abraham Lincoln
#45
@"MarioOnTheFly" 
I personally am Very Happy Your Eyes Were Opened.
My husband retired from a Three Lettered Agency and has known for a Very, Very, Very Long Time, the COBAL/NWO Ran the World's Countries and Wanted to Control Our Everyday Life From Cradle To grave and They Were VERY CLOSE to achieving their Goal.
I worked for a Three Letter Agency in China for 10 years when I met my husband. China was all for the NWO, Beijing was told they would have a Very Large Part in the Running of the World. 
Now people need to understand way they HATE President Trump With A Burning Passion Of Hate, he was asked to run for President and he accepted.
We All Need To Support Him.
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#46
No.

You need to get rid of the two party system that propagates and prolongs this never-ending crapola.

Look up. (Not at a deity)

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#47
I will chime in from a personal experience. 

Construction, to me, is a good indicator of an economy. Alot of buildings going up, houses being built, a strong economy. When it slows down, a weak economy. 

My dad got into the elevator business just after getting out of the navy and I was born in the mid sixties. Things were great for him until the mid 70's when the economy tanked. He had to leave a well paying job because of no work to farm and raise hogs. He did that for 10 years, until things picked back up in the mid 80's when he left the farm and and got back to working on elevators. Not long after , I got in the business. Things were ok then. To me, from my perspective, it was going great until until 9/11. That is when everything changed. A terrorist attack on American soil changed the people of America. We all came together, we were united .We were ok for awhile until  the economy tanked in 2008 . After a slow recovery, America finally started bouncing back. WHen Trump came into office, the economy was booming, and still would have been if it wasn't for this covid crap. 

I use to be a democrat years ago, I voted for Obama for his first term. I was hoping for change, like he promised. It didn't happen because we became a global economy. I voted Libertarian in 2016 ,but really hoped that Trump would win because he was not a politician. Sure, he is rude and crude, but a good business man. I would vote for him this time because the Libertarians have nothing. I am all for less government and more freedom. 
To me, Biden is the same old crap getting regurgitated. 

A little read about presidents and economies through the years. 

  https://5minuteeconomist.com/which-presi...onomy.html

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#48
I'm back!   tinybiggrin 

Reading through this thread, I was looking for why people choose Biden, but I didn't see anyone answering that question. So, out of curiosity to those who are choosing him, please tell me why you think he would make a good POTUS without mentioning Trump's name.

I really want to understand your thought process.

GO!
#49
(08-22-2020, 02:37 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I'm back!   tinybiggrin 

Reading through this thread, I was looking for why people choose Biden, but I didn't see anyone answering that question. So, out of curiosity to those who are choosing him, please tell me why you think he would make a good POTUS without mentioning Trump's name.

I really want to understand your thought process.

GO!

Doesn't this seem like it requires it's own thread?
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#50
(08-22-2020, 02:51 AM)kdog Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 02:37 AM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: I'm back!   tinybiggrin 

Reading through this thread, I was looking for why people choose Biden, but I didn't see anyone answering that question. So, out of curiosity to those who are choosing him, please tell me why you think he would make a good POTUS without mentioning Trump's name.

I really want to understand your thought process.

GO!

Doesn't this seem like it requires it's own thread?

@"kdog", That's what this thread is supposed to be about, I thought... listing policies.   tinyfunny
#51
Since I can't get any response to my previous question asking why people choose to vote for Biden (without mentioning Trump's name), I'll post this showing what President Trump has done during his first three years in office, then ask those who plan to vote for Biden to mention his accomplishments while he was VP.

Someone had gathered all President Trump's accomplishments during his first three years and saved me the work. 

* Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.

* Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.

* Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.[Image: 1f440.png]

* Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected. (Until Antifa/BLM started rioting and burning down cities.)

* Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.

* Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

* Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.

* Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.[Image: 1f440.png]

* Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding Moms.

* The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country's highest-paid workers.

* Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.

* Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.

* Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.[Image: 1f440.png]

* He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.

* Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.

* When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.

* Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.

* In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.

* He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.

* Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.

* Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, In 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.

* Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.

* Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.[Image: 1f440.png]

* All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.

* Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.

* In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.

* The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.

* Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.

* The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.

* Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.

* New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.

* Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.

* Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.

* The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.

* Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.

* President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.

* Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all time high.

* More than 7 million jobs created since election.

* More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

* More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.

* Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.

* Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.

* In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.

* Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.

* Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.

* Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.

* The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.

* Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.

* President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.

* The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.

* ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.

* Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

* Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.

* Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.

* Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.

* President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.

* Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.

* Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.

* Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Withdrew the U.S. from the job killing TPP deal.

* Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

* Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.

* Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.

* Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.

* The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.

* Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.

* 8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.

* Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.

* Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.

* Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.

* Manufacturing jobs are growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.

* Stock Market has reached record highs.

* Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

* African-American unemployment is at an all time low.

* Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all time low.

* Asian-American unemployment is at an all time low.

* Women’s unemployment rate is at a 65-year low.

* Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.

* We have the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.

* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

* 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.

* As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years

* Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.

* Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.[Image: 1f64c.png]

* Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.

* Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.

* Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.

* Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.

* The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

* NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.

* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in Carbon emissions.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.

* Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.

* Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.

* Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

* Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.

* Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.[Image: 1f440.png]

* Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.

* The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.

* It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.

* In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to States to fund child care for low-income families.

* The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.

* In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.[Image: 1f440.png][Image: 1f440.png]

* In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.

* Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.

* US stock market continually hits all-time record highs.

* Because so many people asked for a document with all of this listed in one place, here it is. No links provided to remove bias as Google search is easy.

*Trump did all of this while fighting flagrant abuse and impeachment charges.

The man hardly sleeps; sometimes less than four hours per night. He is always working for the betterment of our country. I can only imagine what he could accomplish if the democrats didn't try to obstruct him at every turn.
#52
I have to ask, did you fact check all those claims, because I know some of them just are not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I know you admire Trump and your loyalty is amazing, but all of this is just not all true.

I am the first to stand up and give the devil his due, but I also am the first to stand up against deceit and manipulation of the truth. 

I know. It is politics. It is darn near impossible to even get close enough to see the truth, without going up in flames.

I am not pro Trump, but that does not make me anti Trump.

I don't know what you believe, but I don't think Trump was placed in office because the majority of the people of America wanted him as President. I believe he is President because the majority of the people of America did not want Clinton.

I don't expect Trump to save this country, he can't. The only way this country can be saved is by the people of this country fighting our problems together. We don't have to agree on everything. We need to let petty juvenile thinking go, and we need to start behaving as rational adults. We can't suck from the government's teat, without feeding the government first. It is time to let the teat go.

The government is corrupt, and tainted. Trump can't fix that. I worked long enough in the belly of the beast to know there is only two ways out, death, or being flushed away. You don't leave untouched, and you come out covered in crap. 

Those that hate Trump don't understand how the system works. Those that adore him, do him no favors, when they try to make those that don't see his ermine robe, believe how beautiful it is.

I pray for our President. I pray for our country. I pray for the world.

Most of all I pray for us, the people of this damaged world. I pray that we will work on healing, and not continue, or escalate the destruction.

Just my opinion. I am shutting up now.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#53
(08-22-2020, 04:41 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have to ask, did you fact check all those claims, because I know some of them just are not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

Which ones are you talking about and I'll look into it.
#54
(08-22-2020, 04:44 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 04:41 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have to ask, did you fact check all those claims, because I know some of them just are not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

Which ones are you talking about and I'll look into it.

I would respectfully suggest you look into all of the claims. In politics they play free and loose with the truth, both sides. That is why you have take everything they say with a grain of salt.

Truth is like statistics, the same information can be used by both sides to prove their point.

One of the things that I despise about my job, is the time spent in court and in in depositions. But it is intriguing to sit there and have two opposing teams use the same exact facts, twisting them so expertly and eloquently, that even when you were the one that presented the facts, that you yourself start to question what you know is true. 

And that is the maze that politics wants to keep you trapped in.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#55
I think that this election is important because it'll be a referendum between socialism and capitalism.
"I be ridin' they be hatin'."
-Abraham Lincoln
#56
(08-22-2020, 05:12 PM)beez Wrote: I think that this election is important because it'll be a referendum between socialism and capitalism.

Looking at the proposed property tax statement I just got in the mail, I am going to lose my home under either system.  tinysurprised

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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#57
(08-22-2020, 05:07 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 04:44 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 04:41 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: I have to ask, did you fact check all those claims, because I know some of them just are not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn" 

Which ones are you talking about and I'll look into it.

I would respectfully suggest you look into all of the claims. In politics they play free and loose with the truth, both sides. That is why you have take everything they say with a grain of salt.

Truth is like statistics, the same information can be used by both sides to prove their point.

One of the things that I despise about my job, is the time spent in court and in in depositions. But it is intriguing to sit there and have two opposing teams use the same exact facts, twisting them so expertly and eloquently, that even when you were the one that presented the facts, that you yourself start to question what you know is true. 

And that is the maze that politics wants to keep you trapped in.

@"NightskyeB4Dawn", I read over all them before posting. I didn't see any that I didn't remember being true, that's why I asked which one(s) you were referring to?
#58
(08-22-2020, 05:31 PM)Mystic Wanderer Wrote: @"NightskyeB4Dawn", I read over all them before posting. I didn't see any that I didn't remember being true, that's why I asked which one(s) you were referring to?

If you researched them all and found them all to be true, then I have nothing more to say.  

Thanks. minusculebeercheers

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#59
(08-22-2020, 05:15 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 05:12 PM)beez Wrote: I think that this election is important because it'll be a referendum between socialism and capitalism.

Looking at the proposed property tax statement I just got in the mail, I am going to lose my home under either system.  tinysurprised

Mark Twain one said, "The difference between capitalism and socialism is that with socialism, man exploits man.  With capitalism, it's reversed."

Sorry about your home.
"I be ridin' they be hatin'."
-Abraham Lincoln
#60
(08-22-2020, 05:52 PM)beez Wrote: Mark Twain one said, "The difference between capitalism and socialism is that with socialism, man exploits man.  With capitalism, it's reversed."

Sorry about your home.

It is what it is. I was planing on selling it down the road a bit more. I just hate being forced to sell it so soon, and not because I want to.

They are going to force all of us middle-class people out of our homes. We are just so much easier to control that way.

For every one person that read this post. About 7.99 billion have not. 

Yet I still post.  tinyinlove
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