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Putting God back into schools.
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(05-28-2022, 11:50 PM)DuckforcoveR Wrote: Well said. I guess my point all along is that we can raise our kids without needing to introduce a diety. All of the good can still be there, the evil and warnings can still be there, and we can still do it the right way. Native people around the world did so without monotheistic religions for millenia. The rabbit hole of the different entities, spirits, etc. In those cultures will take this way off topic, but I do see your point.

From my perspective, it doesn't matter of a person's religion is monotheistic or polytheistic or atheisitic - they are all still religions, belief in the presence (or absence) of something they cannot see, and can neither prove the existence or the non-existence thereof. They are all founded in belief without proof - also known as "faith" - which is the very essence of a religion. As the old saw goes, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". for everything that mankind has ever encountered (the entire western hemisphere being a good example) there was a time before that there was no evidence for it's existence at all.

Christians cannot disprove the simple existence of other deities - they've only declared a major, and for them that major is the Christian God.

Agnostics I can understand - they just shrug and say "Maybe, maybe not - there's no proof either way".

Many Christians fall into the category of blind faith without evidence, same as Atheists. The "blind faith" people on both sides tickle me - they are usually the most opinionated and vociferous among the religious folk, and all without a shred of evidence to back them up, neither objective nor subjective. Other Christians have had a perceived "encounter", but it's always subjective, never objective, and therefore rejected by most folks who never had that experience. Some Atheists simply reject a deity out of personal animosity towards one - maybe it failed to provide them a pony for Christmas one year or something, and that bred an undying and unreasoning hatred of the divine in them. That, too, is a sort of "personal experience" I suppose, albeit a negative one.

Yes, it is possible to teach kids without use of a deity or deities, but there will still have to be something, some sort of objective anchor outside the self, to give the moral compass installed in them an orientation. What that "thing" might be, I still have no idea.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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Putting God back into schools. - by beez - 05-27-2022, 10:55 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by ABNARTY - 05-27-2022, 11:38 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by 727Sky - 05-28-2022, 02:09 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by beez - 05-28-2022, 02:08 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 07:05 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 09:07 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 10:39 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 11:14 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 12:13 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by TDDA - 05-29-2022, 12:30 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 12:53 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by TDDA - 05-29-2022, 01:12 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 01:59 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by TDDA - 05-29-2022, 03:20 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 03:50 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 11:04 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 08:53 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 09:34 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-28-2022, 10:44 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by TDDA - 05-29-2022, 12:06 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 12:30 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 01:28 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by TDDA - 05-29-2022, 12:45 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Schmoe1 - 05-29-2022, 01:46 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-29-2022, 11:15 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Schmoe1 - 05-29-2022, 11:49 PM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by Ninurta - 05-30-2022, 02:55 AM
RE: Putting God back into schools. - by gordi - 05-31-2022, 04:50 PM

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