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Wierdness in MY World
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(07-05-2022, 04:03 AM)wtbengineer Wrote: Okay, I get that attitude, but I am just wondering how you are going to fight this war if they are in the 3rd category.  I've dealt with the ones that have never been either alive or dead a little and it left me a shambles.  I'm not 6'2" but I work out, like seriously, and I'm a pretty beefy guy for my age, shit for most any age.  I didn't have anything to throw at 'em really.  I'm just wondering what's in your arsenal.

It's been my experience over the years, right or wrong, that the "in betweens" respond pretty similarly to the "deads". That leads me to think that both may be interdimensional, more energy than physical reality. That requires a different approach, and the fact that I AM 6'2", but DON'T work out means nothing in that sort of a battle.

It's more like a battle of wills than it is a battle of fists. Physical size doesn't matter much in that sort of contest. I know a little mountain witch that I've known for over 40 years who is 5 foot nothing, but still a force to be reckoned with on the paranormal level. Matter of fact, she can get pretty rough on the physical, too.

It also helps to understand the metaphysical uses of things like copper, salt, iron, and some herbs that were already known 3 or 4 thousand years ago, but have mostly been forgotten in the modern world among wannabe Wiccans. It's the witches, shamans, medicine men, priests, etc. that deal with spirit, either the in-betweens or the dead. Wannabe Wiccans need not apply, as they are just play-acting with a faked up "religion".

There is a thread here detailing my attempt at growing sacred tobacco (which is a thread I need to update). I was taught 30 years ago the use of it by a Cherokee medicine man, but had never attempted to grow any of it until this year. It's not your regular cigarette, cigar, or pipe tobacco - it's anywhere from 3 to 9 times more potent than commercial tobacco, and up to 20 times more potent in the upper leaves of a mature plant. That, along with white sage, some other herbs, and a seriously bad attitude seems to have done the trick. After smudging the house and hanging "hands" of sacred tobacco leaves in the windows and doors, I've not been scratched by anything other than myself in a couple months now.

Technically, I need to spread the tobacco powder all along baseboards on exterior walls, and maybe at the corners of my perimeter fence, but I don't have enough grown and cured ltheema to get that done yet. Maybe in late fall or early winter.

Believe it or not, most of the "spirits" we have to deal with here in the US are the same ones the Indians had to deal with a few thousand years ago. Spirits are, generally with a few exceptions, tied to the land. That's why things like "Allah" never bother me - I know that Allah originated as a desert djinn in the middle east, and has no power here beyond what it can agitate it's followers into doing. So I don't worry about Allah, just the radical Muslims who follow it's way. Being physical, they are much more of a danger. They are not power-limited to a particular place like the desert djinn are.

So here, old Indian medicine works pretty well.

In the final analysis, I've found that all the accoutrements are mostly just props, and it is your own will, determination, intent, and bad attitude that really keeps the haints in line, and it's just your own personal power working through the props that energizes those props to do the things they are alleged do. The props, along with any rituals you may devise or have been taught, serve only as focal points to focus your own will, as they do in any "religion", from Catholic to Animist. They are generally more useful for folks with little faith or will, as they focus what raw material is there to work with. They also assist folks with a stronger will, if the particular haint they are dealing with is a stronger one.

At least that's my working theory for the time being, and it hasn't failed so far.

Me and that little mountain witch I mentioned, 44 years (and a couple months - 5 January 1978) ago:

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She's just a bitty little thing, but hell on wheels when she gets riled and means business. The field jacket ain't mine. it belonged to one of my uncles. Shoulder patch is 4th Transport, out of Ft. Eustis, but based in Saigon when he wore it 10 or 12 years earlier.

ETA:"Mountain witches" are a special breed. They combine things brought from the Old Country - England, Ireland, Germany and Scotland - things which probably date all the way back to Celtic and Germanic "magic" of millennia ago, with local Indian "magic", and possibly some from Africa brought over by slaves and indentured servants from Africa. What they do, and what they use, comes from those sources direct, passed down through generations, along with some things they discovered on their own. That is how they differ from Wiccans, or what I call "wannabe wiccans" or "Barnes and Noble witches". That latter category was entirely made up out of whole cloth by Gerald Gardner in the early 20th century, and bears the same relation to real witches as Tonka toys do to Cat diesels. They have no real, actual, passed-down knowledge. It's all made up in the modern day. The same goes for what passes as "Druids" in modern day England and Wales, and for the sudden pseudo resurgence of alleged "Pagans" for the most part. Most of them are made up, pale imitations of the real thing.

Mountain witches fall into the same sort of category - but in their case it's not that they don't have the power or passed down traditions, it's that they are no longer purely European witches, because of the inclusions from other cultures. What they do works here, but probably would be less effective in India or Australia, for example. Those places have their own local spirits, and only the generic parts that cover any spirit would work there, What Mountain Witches do would be less effective, because those local spirits have their own peculiarities and draw their power from that patch of land.

Every continent, and to a lesser extent every patch of land within it, has it's own composition, it's own unique micro-crystalline mineral structure. That is why modern science can analyze old bones and determine they grew up in a different place from where they died, and it is also why particular spirits are tied down to particular places.

it may well be why the Bluestones at Stonehenge were imported from the Preseli Hills in Wales instead of sourced locally - different micro-crystalline structure, different "magical" properties as relates to spirits.

Maybe some day I'll tell the tale of my physical fight with a demon, or something like one. It damn near whooped my ass, until I accidentally - and I do mean accidentally - called in reinforcements due to a panic. That's not a tale I tell, but maybe some day. It's too unbelievable, to the point that sometimes even I question it, and I was there.


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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




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Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 11-30-2021, 07:58 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 08:10 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 11-30-2021, 08:24 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 08:31 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 11-30-2021, 08:42 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 08:51 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 09:07 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 11-30-2021, 09:50 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 10:01 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 11-30-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by 727Sky - 11-30-2021, 10:06 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 10:12 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by F2d5thCav - 11-30-2021, 11:04 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 07:12 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 11-30-2021, 01:03 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by VioletDove - 11-30-2021, 02:42 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by guohua - 11-30-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 11-30-2021, 05:25 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by guohua - 11-30-2021, 05:41 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 11-30-2021, 05:45 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 07:23 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by guohua - 11-30-2021, 07:28 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 10:37 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by GeauxHomeLittleD - 11-30-2021, 10:49 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 11-30-2021, 11:41 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 12:59 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Minstrel - 12-01-2021, 07:31 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 07:48 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Minstrel - 12-02-2021, 03:37 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Schmoe1 - 12-01-2021, 05:37 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 05:55 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 12-01-2021, 07:56 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by F2d5thCav - 12-01-2021, 08:28 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 08:41 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by F2d5thCav - 12-01-2021, 08:47 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 09:09 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 12-01-2021, 09:48 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 12-01-2021, 08:33 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 08:40 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Kenzo - 12-01-2021, 08:54 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 12-01-2021, 09:39 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-01-2021, 11:29 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by guohua - 12-05-2021, 05:37 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 12-06-2021, 09:50 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 04-08-2022, 09:54 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by NightskyeB4Dawn - 04-08-2022, 10:56 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by wtbengineer - 07-05-2022, 04:03 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 07-05-2022, 05:56 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by wtbengineer - 07-06-2022, 03:35 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 07-06-2022, 08:25 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 07-06-2022, 11:53 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 07-06-2022, 10:37 PM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by BIAD - 07-07-2022, 09:50 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by wtbengineer - 07-07-2022, 03:58 AM
RE: Wierdness in MY World - by Ninurta - 07-06-2022, 10:30 PM

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