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Mac Brazel & The Debris. An Opinion.
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Without tarrying on cases like Glen Dennis -Roswell's Undertaker and others who came out of the woodwork
during Stanton Friedman's later investigation of the Roswell incident, it might be prudent to look at those in the
military who witnessed the transportation of the wreckage of the supposed weather-balloon.

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Hangar 84 then and now.

Considering the crumpled foil and tape-covered sticks' ordinariness, one may be puzzled why such interest from
the 'higher-ups' was enough that the debris had to be flown to one -if not more, other military bases.
But it is an indication that something wasn't quite right with -what many people around that area of New Mexico
would've thought, an everyday event.

First Lieutenant Robert Shirkey was an Assistant Flight Safety Officer at Roswell Army Air field in July of 1947
and he recalled an unusual situation during the time of the flying-saucer affair.

Being notified that a B-29 Superfortress was ordered by Col. Blanchard to be readied and was waiting outside
of the Base Operations Quarters, Shirkey ordered a crew to prepare the flight for 2.00.pm. on that day, 8th July
(Tuesday).

1st. Lt. Shirkey witnessed -accompanied by Col. Blanchard, several boxes being brought out to the plane's ramp
and loaded into the B-29. At the two o'clock, the four-engine heavy bomber took off for Fort Worth Texas.
He also partially saw what the carried boxes contained:

"...One man had a piece, carrying under his arm right out in the open, about 16 by 22, coffee table sized.
Maj. Jesse Marcel went through carrying this box with scraps of metal in it and one of the I-beams sticking
up in the corner.
Meanwhile a staff car had pulled up underneath the tail and they were handing some boxes up into the back
door entrance..."

But that wasn't the end of Shirkey's involvement in the crashed weather-balloon aspect. Being the Assistant Flight
Safety Officer, he was connected with two other flights involving something top secret that was to be taken from the
Roswell military base. Several days later, a B-25 was scheduled to take something to Fort Worth and a third flight
was a B-29 going directly to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.
The pilot for the Wright Patterson flight was Oliver "Pappy" Henderson, someone we will get back to.

Up to now, we're still dealing with material, confusing scraps of foil, 'I-beams' and -what Lt. Shirkey described as:
"...one piece that was 18 x 24 inches, brushed stainless steel in color...". Major Marcel is reported to still be with the
wreckage, but Counter-Intelligence agent, Captain Sheridan Cavitt -who accompanied Marcel at the Foster Ranch
is no longer mentioned. Marcel also boarded the B-25 and flew with the weather-balloon to Fort Worth because of
its importance... the remains of a weather-balloon.

Considering that the poor discoverer of this debris -Mac Brazel, had now been 'quarantined' in the same place that
the stuff was being stored, the haste to get the material off the base and to where it could be better-secured, and
the high status of rank involved, Brazel's original comments of the material's qualities don't seem that bizarre.

You don't don't fly broken weather-balloons -escorted by a Major, to other sites for identification, you just don't.
You don't arrest a man and keep him away from the media, his family and the general public for nine days, either.
You don't have the FBI threaten -via teletype machine, a local Radio Station (KOAT Radio in Albuquerque) to:
'immediately cease all communication' on Brazel's discovery, you just don't.

But you would if the material belonged to something that was vital to the country's security, you would if what the
rancher found was somehow attached to another discovery, that of a downed craft with real goddam aliens strewn
around the place!

Anyway, 1st  Lieutenant Robert Shirkey had something more to add regarding the second flight of the B-25 to the
Carswell Base at Fort Worth:
"...I learned later that a Sergeant and some airmen went to the crash site and swept up everything, including bodies. 
The bodies were laid out in Hanger 84. Henderson's flight contained all that material..."

Oh sh'*t, the tale has taken a sudden turn!
It was fine following a narrative of a few armfuls of broken weather equipment and the small-town musings of something
that was all the rage in the press, but 'bodies'...?

Shirkey also noted that within two weeks after both flights, the Sergeant of the Guards and all the crewmen involved in
the removal of the material from Roswell, were shipped out to other bases and ergo separated. Shirkey -himself, was
transferred to the Philippines only nine days later to a post that did not even exist!
(Nine days, the same amount of time Brazel was a 'guest' at the Base.)

Could it be that this second flight was later because of the logistics to retrieve whatever a second crash-site contained
took longer? Shirkey mentions Hangar 84 and that does still exist. The large shelter on the Roswell  Air Field is still in
a good condition, but back then... could the hangar have been the setting of actual alien dead bodies?


If we're moving into a narrative where other-world corpses and a crashed vehicle are involved, then the delay in recovery
-compared to a few boxes of light-weight scraps would make sense. The only puzzle is why move the entire collection from
the hangar? Surely any investigation and analysis could've been done on-site within the guarded base, unless the material
was so important that it had to be removed from the immediate area due to the announcement earlier that day of a crashed
flying-saucer capture.
Or that someone else -apart from the media, could come looking for it?!

Also, notice that Blanchard is still involved on the 8th July, even though an official order had been signed on 6th July 1947
stating that Lieutenant Colonel  A.C. Payne Jennings was to take command of the Roswell Army Air Force Base on the 8th.

Colonel William Blanchford -if some researchers are to be believed, should have been on leave from his command position
from Tuesday 8th July. Yet, he's reported to have ordered his Public Information Officer -Lt. Walter G. Haut, to announce the
capture of a downed-disc on that day and later, took a few days off with his wife enjoying the hospitality of Santa Fe.

That's quite a sh*t-creek to leave the guy who's covering your position, in! But to understand what was really happening, we
would have to look at the situation through the eyes of someone who took a more security-based view on what they actually
had in that Hangar 84.

Blanchard had done his job, but screwed-up with the press release. LT. Colonel Jennings, an officer held in high regard for
his work as commanding officer of the Air Transport Unit during the Bikini-Atoll  atomic bomb testing, had taken charge and
in my view, was given the task of making the problem go away.

Assistant Flight Safety Officer Shirkey stated the plane to the Carswell Base in Texas was piloted by Lt. Col. Payne Jennings.
By the way, do you know who flew Lt. Shirkey nine days later to San Francisco on a B-29 to hasten his transfer to the islands
in Southeast Asia...? No other than Lt. Col. Payne Jennings!

The other connection to Col. Jennings and someone else we've already mentioned, is a link to the pilot who flew the B-29 to
Wright-Patterson, that being Oliver Henderson. If you recall, Jennings was the commanding officer in the transporting system
during the atom bomb tests in mid-1946. 

Pappy' Henderson -named due to being older than his fellow squadron pilots in the World War II, spent over thirteen years at the
Roswell base running the 'Green Hornet Airline'. This transport service involved flying C-54s and C-47s, carrying VIPs, scientists
and materials from Roswell to the Pacific during the same atom bomb tests that Lt. Col. Jennings was involved with.
This certainly assured Henderson would have a top secret clearance for this responsibility.
Both logistical no-nonsense officers and did what they were told.

At the beginning of the eighties, Oliver Henderson's wife -Saffo, stated in regards of a newspaper article on aliens, that he had
witnessed such beings during their time at Roswell, New Mexico. He told her that he had actually flown the wreckage of a craft
to Dayton, Ohio and due to his clearance, got the opportunity to see the dead bodies of such extraterrestrials.
He added that it was this top secret burden that had stopped him from discussing the incident with her earlier.

Saffo related her husband's description: "...the beings as small with large heads for their size. 
He said the material that their suits were made of was different than anything he had ever seen. 
He said they looked strange.  I believe he mentioned that the bodies had been packed in dry ice
to preserve them..."
Henderson died in 1986.
.........................................

So now we have some partial remains of a weather-balloon-come-flying-saucer dumped onto the floor of General Roger Ramey's
office at the Carswell Base and a facility in Ohio that dealt with a German  V-1 flying bomb that was reversed engineered in 1944.

Wright Patterson Base also held German and Japanese aircraft and captured equipment the year before. This material was kept
in six buildings, a large outdoor storage area, and part of a flight-line hangar for Technical Data Lab study.
An ideal place to analyse deceased pilots and experiment on a crashed flying-saucer they had flown.

But why have the small pieces laid out in Ramey's office...? Oh yes, for the media, of course. Sadly, along with the scraps of
foil ready for the scrambling press, Major Marcel -the man who'd never stopped believing what he'd brought back fro the ranch
was 'not of this Earth', waited for the scribbling minions and their flash-bulb cameras.

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Five airmen demonstrate a radar device being attached to a weather balloon at Fort Worth Army Air Base
on 11th July 1947, five days after the Roswell, NM, UFO incident.


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Mac Brazel & The Debris. An Opinion. - by BIAD - 06-27-2021, 03:59 PM
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