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What is Stigmergy?
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(12-28-2019, 08:44 PM)Amaterasu Solar Wrote: Plants live, gaining nutrients from the sun and the soil.  Somehow I can't convince Myself that something is dying to sustain that life... 

I truly had intended to sit on the sidelines and watch, but some statements require clarification. I will however try to keep my comments brief.

Wallfire is correct - for anything to live, something must die. My time in the jungles gave me a visceral understanding of that as it relates to plants. Plants do not live in sterile soil or on barren rock - the dirt they grow out of is composed of other, formerly living and now dead things. For even plants to live, something else must have died. Laying on one's belly in that rotting mold and breathing the scent of all that death lets one know right down the the marrow where it comes from. All of a plant's nutrients come from that decay of formerly living things - the sunlight only provides the energy to convert them to a form useful to the plants.

Quote:"AS" wants Humanity to win, removing a dangerous and antiquated  tool that promotes psychopaths to power.  She wants to "kill" the ability to control Others on a widespread basis (perhaps You did not watch the original post to know I am of female configuration?).

That makes things a little bit clearer. You seem to want to remove the power of control of one over another as perhaps a primary objective. Eliminating "means of accounting for labor" won't accomplish that, however, due to the nature of control. You see, control requires compliance. Without the compliance of the victim of control, the would be perpetrator of it has none. The way to eliminate control is to educate victims in compliance rejection - specifically, rejection of compliance with control attempts. NO ONE can control you if you refuse to allow it, regardless of the tools or mechanisms they attempt to use to enforce it.

Tools, mechanisms, and methods of control are irrelevant to the control itself. Only compliance (or it's refusal) is relevant.

I eliminated my debt in 1992 or 93, and have not taken any new debt on in the interim, so I am not a "debt slave". I have no job, no wages, and so am not a "wage slave", either - yet the government, for some odd reason, thinks they have a "right" of some sort to exert control over me, to allow someone I have never met, and who lives 500 miles away from me, decide what I will and will not be allowed to do, even what I will and will not be allowed to own. I reject that control. While that contest is still ongoing, I imagine the next year or so will tell the tale of how that goes for them.

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Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king.

Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.’ Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’




Messages In This Thread
What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-24-2019, 06:35 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Wallfire - 12-24-2019, 09:23 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Mystic Wanderer - 12-24-2019, 04:01 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-24-2019, 10:12 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Mystic Wanderer - 12-25-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-26-2019, 01:26 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-24-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-24-2019, 06:08 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-24-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-24-2019, 10:22 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-24-2019, 11:06 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-26-2019, 01:31 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-26-2019, 01:53 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-26-2019, 09:21 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by BIAD - 12-26-2019, 11:14 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-26-2019, 05:00 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-26-2019, 10:55 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-27-2019, 02:27 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-26-2019, 09:11 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-26-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-27-2019, 02:23 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-27-2019, 06:44 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-27-2019, 10:48 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-28-2019, 05:55 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-28-2019, 08:50 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-28-2019, 08:36 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-26-2019, 01:10 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Mystic Wanderer - 12-26-2019, 02:14 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-26-2019, 02:38 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-26-2019, 10:41 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Mystic Wanderer - 12-26-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Mystic Wanderer - 12-27-2019, 02:38 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-27-2019, 06:51 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Wallfire - 12-28-2019, 10:50 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-28-2019, 08:44 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Ninurta - 12-29-2019, 04:50 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-28-2019, 05:17 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-28-2019, 08:48 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Wallfire - 12-29-2019, 11:21 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Mystic Wanderer - 12-29-2019, 05:18 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-29-2019, 05:50 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Amaterasu Solar - 12-29-2019, 11:31 PM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by guohua - 12-30-2019, 12:32 AM
RE: What is Stigmergy? - by Wallfire - 12-30-2019, 11:49 AM

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