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Foundational Rights
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(09-14-2018, 05:18 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I wish you well in your endeavor. It will not work among humans, as we are not stigmergistic insects (and as a matter of fact, even insects aren't for they have leaders and hierarchies in their colonies), but it's good to have a dream.

In this You are missing the point that stigmergy is in ALL societies. Not just insects. That was merely where stigmergy was first discovered. Our Human stigmergy is extremely shackled by a group that would control information flow. Without a free flow of information, stigmergy creates an unbalanced end result. And with psychopaths in control, secondary psychopathy emerges, and lends credence to the assessment of Humanity as being a failed race.

As to leaders, yes, all societies have leaders, but in many the leaders are for problem-solving, emerging for that purpose, and not Ones "voted on" to have "authority" over All in making arbitrary "laws" and delegating the enFORCEment of them to (paid) order-followers.

In fact, Human society is VERY unnatural as it is now. And the issues We see have everything to do with this artificial construct forced upon Us.

And it is not a "dream" I have, but a goal, to lead enough of Humanity to free Themselves from the systems imposed by psychopaths.

Quote:I've observed humans for a very long time, and this will never happen among them. If there were only two humans left on earth, this society you envision would not exist or come to pass. There are too many flaws in it when compared with human nature, and it's details are not fleshed out enough to even begin to try to make the mechanics of it work.

You have observed Humans in a scarcity paradigm, enslaved to Others, artificially governed by psychopaths who control information, with secondary psychopathy promoted. Your view of "Human nature" is skewed both by these facts and by the fact that the psychopaths in control do ghastly things and in Their media blame "Human nature." The result of the two Humans left would depend fully on whether one or both were psychopaths.

Quote:You would have to start by killing all the "psychopaths", of which there are many more than you seem to realize, simply for being psychopaths and doing as they do... and that would break the very first "law" of the three. If you didn't kill them, in the interest of keeping those three "laws", it would not be 3 years before they ruled over you again.

There is no need to kill anyOne. Remove the tool and systems that promote psychopaths to power to wreak all this havoc in Human society. When They have no more or less power than the next One, They can be handled. 1% of Us are primary psychopaths, genetically incapable of love, caring, or empathy for Others. Another 5% are secondary psychopaths. I say 94% of Us can handle Individuals who choose unEthically. Especially when They have so very little motive to do so.

And "killing" psychopaths requires a witch hunt, something quite unEthical.
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Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-07-2018, 02:45 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-07-2018, 03:13 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-07-2018, 03:14 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-07-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-08-2018, 07:18 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by guohua - 09-07-2018, 05:57 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-08-2018, 07:27 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-08-2018, 09:19 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-08-2018, 10:24 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-09-2018, 12:34 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 01:34 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-09-2018, 02:42 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 01:41 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-11-2018, 03:49 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 07:10 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-10-2018, 04:39 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-12-2018, 07:11 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 02:44 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-11-2018, 07:25 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-11-2018, 07:46 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-11-2018, 08:02 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 01:14 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by gordi - 09-12-2018, 09:21 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 03:20 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-12-2018, 11:52 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-13-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-13-2018, 05:59 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-17-2018, 07:37 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-17-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-17-2018, 10:05 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by guohua - 09-13-2018, 06:10 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 02:51 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-14-2018, 05:18 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 03:17 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Ninurta - 09-16-2018, 04:33 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-14-2018, 09:19 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 03:35 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-14-2018, 09:32 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-14-2018, 10:24 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-14-2018, 11:33 AM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Amaterasu Solar - 09-16-2018, 03:47 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by BIAD - 09-16-2018, 04:59 PM
RE: Foundational Rights - by Wallfire - 09-17-2018, 10:25 PM

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